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PLEX PASS - Price Increases Coming?
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- Опубліковано 14 сер 2024
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00:00 - The Start
00:28 - $239 for Plex Pass?!?!?!?!
01:12 - Benefit of the doubt
02:09 - The Size of Plex
02:48 - Recent Example of a Price Increase on a Subscription Service
03:47 - Plex IS in Trouble!
04:46 - Is Plex Worth More Money?
05:54 - I think they SHOULD Charge More... But keep it REALISTIC!
06:44 - Plex Alternatives?
07:29 - Plex will 100% Increase Prices
07:49 - This is NOT a Plex Sponsored video (that would be bonkers!)
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*Important* keep in mind that the $239 Plex Pass price is massively unconfirmed, BUT Plex is definitely going to up the prices and this (at least for me) was a good enough catalyst to have this discussion! As mentioned at the outro, I am not affiliated with Plex, I don't have any affiliate/sponsorship from them (or indeed anything, aside from amazon product links in the description) and this isn't me 'selling plex', but I do think they need to address their internal cashflow issues!
It reminds me of how my phone carrier kept trying to pressure me into upgrading my plan because the plan i was currently grandfathered into was too good.
And they'll do the same thing, they'll make a new tier with more features and cut the features of the current plex pass so that your current lifetime pass doesn't cut it.
I'm glad you made this video. I will be buying my first NAS next week and Plex was something I was interested in. May as well pick it up now while it's cheaper! Price for me was $159 Cad which was $178 after tax; not too bad for lifetime access.
I bought my nas a month ago. I still need to build it out. Going with unraid but still guess I need to buy Plex now too. Though I thought they did black Friday deals....
Lifetime pass has been easily worth it for me. No regrets. However,
1.) I am concerned of more features being removed. I really miss the photos backup that was taken away a couple years ago.
2.) I'm also concerned that the company will fold and the software becomes less useful/supported.
3.) I don't like that they STILL collect my data, even after paying for the service. If it were free, then it makes sense to profit from user data to cover expenses.
Oh no! *fires up Jellyfin* ....anyway
Yes, continue to be a leech.
Subscription services always go in this direction. They try to build up a subscriber base with a relatively cheap price compared to the alternative at the time, and when growth targets inevitably don't meet expectations, it's time to squeeze more out of the existing subscriber base to earn more profits to appear attractive to investors or the stock market if they are publicly traded. Happens every time. Look at what Xbox and Sony did with their game subscriptions. Jacked up the prices significantly.
I bought my DS918+ almost 6 years ago and you've always been my go-to troubleshooter. LOVE the new studio look!!
To be fair, they announced almost a year ago they would increase the price in a notable fashion. I found it already hard when I had it ona discount at $99, but paying almost $240 (plus tax!!!) for something knowing how they do NOT follow user's requests but rather continue their own path of self-destruction with more data capture/selling, more ad-sponsored services nobody asked for... it will probably be their downfall £240 doesn't cut it when you have Jellyfin around
Tell me more about the data capture and selling? What have they done?
I remember my son buying his Plex Pass for 79.99 (cannot remember whether it was USD or GBP at the time), he encouraged me to follow suit but I missed it so had to pay 119 instead. Do I regret not buying at 79 andd not 119, of course: do I regret buying at 119, NO WAY, bloody good buy. That was a decade ago (February 2014) and I haven't paid a penny since. Even at twice the price it's still well worth it.
btw Jelyfin is soooo slow on my 2023 lg tv to the point it's almost unusable to navigate it
Lifetime membership. Is it worth it? YES!
Actually don't take my word for it. I got it on offer.
Yeah, I will still got it at 250$ it is still wayyyy better than jellyfin
@@TheJoBlackoshave used both. Found not much of a difference tbh..may I ask what it is that you find is better. (Just out of curiosity)
god bless i got plex pass at 70$ couple years back
After seeing this video I said the hell with it and I just want to buy myself a lifetime
to be honest, $119 for lifetime was too cheap... Plex needs to pay the bills
#THIS
Agreed perhaps.. but I will be quite heated if as a current owner of the lifetime pass they make me pay more and dont grandfather me in
I bought mine for $70 years ago lol.
Watching this as a based (broke) Jellyfin enjoyer
Thanks for the heads up on those signals and discussion around pricing. They'll probably move to subscription only model is my feel on where it's heading (with grandfathered-in lifetime licenses).
Lifetime Plex Pass that I bought in 2019: $100
Comparing that with $5/month, I would have spent $300.
Imagine paying a subscription when the entire point of the product is to avoid subscriptions
I can only speak for myself, but I ONY pay for plex for the H/W transcoding and a bunch of small QOL improvements in how media playback in handled. at a bit over £100 quid, I am happy... but over £200... hmmmmmm
Paying one to avoid many more makes good financial sense. I’m sure it’s not worth it to everyone but it sure was to me (until I got the forever pass many years ago)
Inflation is up for everything and every other streamer has been raising prices. No surprise Plex follows suit. It’s not a charity
£79 for ever, when I bought it and that was due user accounts, given the years of use, it's a small price to support the development.
Am I the only one who still uses Kodi? It just _works!_ Over the years, the only problems I've had were due to my old hardware, as media evolved from 720p/1080p/4k, I had to up my internal network speeds as well as NAS equipment.
I tried free Plex and to be honest, it really wasn't bad at all except when I wanted to play 4k.
Setting up Jellyfin on TrueNas Scale was a royal pain but I got it working; however, I keep going back to Kodi! My main viewing is via the Nvidia Shield TV PRO - it is a wonderful device that I hope Nvidia doesn't abandon.
*Thanks for the video!*
Literally JUST watched bobs burgers (the Taffy butt episode, if you must know) on a Kodi 19 install on a QNAP, over HDMI in my office. KODI is still just incredible
Ahhh… nothing like the lovely relaxing sounds of *Seagulls* 😅
I mean .. that's just harsh
@@nascompares it takes me back to one of my favorite UA-cam channel “Steven the Seagull”
I love my lifetime membership! Been using it for like 10 years. Not that I want to pay more but surprised that I have never had to pay again to be honest.
I think Plex is great, and I am happy to have invested in a lifetime subscription years ago. Just look at what Roon did, Roon's lifetime subscription costs $829.99, which is up from $499.99 when Roon first launched.
They keep increasing the price but they don't fix bugs fast enough. HDR tone mapping doesn't work on my Proxmox Ubuntu LXC container with Intel Arc A380 passthrough. Also have issues with stuttering with subtitle burn-in for PGS and ASS files.
I picked my lifetime subscription up about a decade ago for $74.99 :D
Another reason to be glad I moved to Jellyfin.
I got a lifetime pass with discount code for around 70 gbp
Same lol
Jellyfin and Kodi FTW
With Jellyfin and Kodi who needs Plex.
Nice watch Robbie! 😀
Lifetime Membership is always worth it,. Please support the developers that at making software that you use daily.
If I try and buy a lifetime pass now it's giving me a price of £140, around 180 US dollars, I'll keep the free option thanks
Interesting, if I go to the Plex web site it's saying £94 for lifetime pass, it seems Plex has lost the plot a bit. It doesn't give users much confidence in their system if that can't decide on the subscription rates
Good video Rob, it's a fair question, they do provide a good package, setting aside the user supplying the hardware. I've been a plex pass user, then tried emby, then tried jellyfin and found myself coming back to plex as a free user. I don't need phone access and only watch content locally, though sometimes I might want to watch things away from home and there's a free solution for that. I might become a paid user in the future though, can't expect them to let me freeload them forever, things don't continue to exist if they have no income.
Paid €81 in 2022 for my life time. Had done a couple of yearly passes at that point. But it was more worth it to do the lifetime. Was it worth it? Probably. I dont have many on my plex server as it couldnt handle it till recently. So now that I got my boardband sorted I have started upgrading my server. Starting to invite people now. So the transcoding will come in helpful.
I seem you remember you have mentioned Plex will increase their prices in a previous video but we are still waiting.
I think the lifetime pass is probably currently under priced - but $240 would be too much. 5 years worth is probably the absolute limit (who knows if the product will still be around in 5 years). It would also be nice if there was a (?10%) discount off the lifetime pass for every year you had already been a subscriber (perhaps up to a maximum of 50%).
Jellyfin it is then
I got rid of plex a while ago and switched to Jellyfin.
Good for you. I tried it and got back to Plex
@@TheJoBlackos why?
@@ilseparatio2963 Because it's exactly like a lot of open source software...almost there, but not quite. Also for me, 4k HDR media files just dont play as well or at all on Jellyfin. I run both servers just to have them, but Plex works 100% of the time.
If their lifetime membership plan has lost them money, that is entirely on them. You are supposed to invest those one time lifetime member payments so you get a stable passive income, not burn it all that year on shortsighted purchases. Those are covered by monthly payers.
Incompetence at money management is not an excuse. Jacking up the price when you can't properly manage money just makes the problem more expensive.
lol
So you're saying that waiting until Black Friday is a likely recipe for disappointment?
With Sony killing off blu ray sales to the consumer very recently I'm seeing a smaller and smaller reason for Plex as a whole. This does force me into streaming which doesn't fill me with joy. That said, it makes for a far simpler and cheaper NAS deployment, plus, I can just do the annual streaming platform rotation on a yearly (or other) basis as its not like I need them all at the one time anyway. FWIW, I do not have Plex.
Sony isn't killing off it's blu-ray movie business. They killed off writeable blank media that not many people use any more.
Crikey that’s a kick to the gonads. Still, when I bought my Lifetime Plex Pass I waited until it was on sale during the holiday seasons. I like Plex but I F@#king loved Windows Media Center. If Microsoft were to bring back WMC I’d switch in a heartbeat!
For the money conscious new users this will just push them to use jellyfin. And at this point, if I hadn’t already bought Plex pass, and now was to pay that much I’d much rather contribute to jellyfin. Cause only reason I switched away from jellyfin because I was too much of a noob at that point to figure out reverse proxies.
Jellyfin isn't Plex. Jellyfin is close, but they still have some things to work out, including that god awful interface.
Call me cynical, but what if Plex "accidentally" put the price there to get people, as some here are proposing, to grab a lifetime membership before the phantom increase? It would be interesting to see the spike.
This video sounds like a great marketing strat to get people to jump onto the current price.
lol yep... and if they were paying for it, I would agree. Sadly, it's just me and my painfully free opinions. I like plex... but I do not '$239-love' it!!!
THEY'RE RAISING THE PRICE OF PL..... oh wait I forgot I have a lifetime pass with Emby for MUCH cheaper than what Plex is offering now. I'm good.
Jellyfin all the way, I don't see the point of PLEX unless you are into thier TV services.
3 of my TVs have a Plex app. Only one of my TVs has a Jellyfin app.
Jellyfin still struggles with some 4k HDR. Once they work that out, maybe.
@@wojtek-33 For me its wors perfectly fine 4k HDR10 with tone mapping enabled
The thing is though, it's easier to supply something cheaply or feee when you are small but the bigger you get the more you need to cover those costs. If everyone dropped Plex and went to Jellyfin or Emby then they would almost certainly find themselves in a situation where they need to start looking at the kind of thing Plex have had to do (plus they would have to start legitimising themselves rather than being seen as a tool that aids pirates which is something we have seen Plex try to do to prevent any potential legal issues). It's ultimately good for Jellyfin and Emby users that Plex exists to a point they most likely even themselves not want anything including cost for licences to to have a significant impact on Alex user numbers
I still don't understand why they ask you to pay for "lifetime" access and yet they still run adds for people who have paid for this premium.
Not for me thank you.
What ads? I've used Plex Pass for years and have never seen an ad except on the the free movies they offer, which is no different than other free movie services.
*Lifetime = until they go out of business
I've had a Lifetime Plex Pass for years. This doesn't affect me. 🤷🏾♂️
Look, I LOVE Plex, and I have a lifetime pass, however, given there have been ZERO improvements in YEARS they cannot raise the price. If they raise the price and make it monthly, I need them to overhaul a few things, one, fix the cellular quality bug when remote playing for gods sake, it has been reported SO MANY TIMES, and has existed for 3 years now. Two, offer more transcoding options, I don't need 8 mbps for 1080p, we should have an option if we want 2 mbps 1080p and not to have to drop to 720p, that is dumb.
“Zero improvements” is nonsense. There are constant updates, bug fixes and support for new apps and devices. Sure, it doesn’t meet every feature request (including mine) but that is the case for any product.
maybe they should layoff more people instead
Its hard to justify $249 for plex when Emby is $119, but even if not you think it's not as good thats 4 blurays
As a long time plex user this tells me one of 2 things, only be concerned if you transcode and if you do use Jellyfin as it is FOSS
mark my words! If Plex ups it's price... within 2 months, Emby will too - that's not a dis/insult for them (exceptional platform), but they will definitely 'mirror' their biggest competitor to a degree
@@nascompares as always Rob, speaking facts Plex has been great for a long time but never without its clear downfalls to individuals that want a free service as for both Plex and Emby it is just unsustainable. Also I've got an update on your IOCrest USB4 to 10GBe issues
guys jellyfin is the superior option, dont buy plex
It's not. I run both servers and Plex plays everything. Jellyfin doesn't.
@@wojtek-33 Jellyfin definitely plays everything
@@Sheebert There is a whole discussion about Dolby vision issues on jellyfin GitHub as recent as 2 weeks ago...
SWITCH TO JELLYFIN
jellyfin, or shockingly, for most everyone NOTHING, because who really NEEDS to hoard a bunch of stuff probably only worth watching maybe once anyway
Yeah I have thought of that, but I can't delete all my media, especially after the weeks of time of ripping movies. And the way streaming is heading, it's not a cost effective or reliable option.
Honestly i always thought plex lifetime pass was a stupid idea, there is a cap on your market share if everyone in your market gets a lifetime pass then you have no more income....
I think 'lifetime' passes are going to stop being a thing VERY soon! It was a great '2nd/3rd age of the internet' idea... but now, it's gonna just be the nightmare anchor that can sink the ship!
Time to leave, it’s lost its way anyway.
How has it?
thing is though, from my experience at least, nothing better is available at the moment though. Neither Jellyfin nor Emby are equal to Plex, close maybe, but not equal to! When there is, then we'll see.
@@PolarRed agreed. I don't get the vitriol. If there is better I'll move too
WTF does plex do beside a silly pretty interface .......can't see it worth anything really
Plays 4k HDR files flawlessly. If you're not into that, then Jellyfin is fine.
I understand that the bosses of Plex always want more money, that's their only goal in life, plus they are in a dominant position given that they have absolutely no competitors...
I don't regret having bought the Plex Pass for nothing with a VPN (in Argentina I think).
I just saw that to use jellyfin, you need a reverse proxy, TLS, a domain name (paid), configure fail2ban, configure several software programs inaccessible to anyone who doesn't eat computers for breakfast, like nginx , Let's Encrypt, certbot, all horrible things full of incomprehensible configuration files...
In the multimedia server market, there really is Plex and nothing else.
4d chess, drop the increase = more people subscribe.
Talk about pulling up the drawbridge. "I've got it, I want to the best features and want others to pay more than I did to continue getting those". This is how the privileged maintain their position, astonishing!
hmm... the bigger plex gets, the more support it needs in it's user-facing services... they said last year they were exploring fundraising methods (eww... those streaming tv things were gross + losing 20% of the staff must of been killer). I genuinely think they should up the prices... but not to 239!
@@nascompares tbh they should have been "creeping" the life time pass prices over the last decade at say 10 more each year would then land you at 220 now and have helped their cashflow. Amazon have done it with Prime and they have an awful lot more cash floating about.
I'm an old bugger now, and while this is definitely OT, I remember my brother and his wife being given a National Trust Lifetime membership as a wedding present many, many years ago. I think it was £900 (but I could be way wrong) To do that today would cost over £4,200 so they (National Trust) know the value od steadily increasing the price through the years. Still way cheaper for the consumer over the long run compared to a subscriprion etc.
IF its coming its dumb... they need to DROP the price... Hard to compete with Jellyfin's FREE price... I did THINK about buying when there are the offers around 50% but not seen for a while... its a total rip off IMHO at £95 or $120 or whatever it is...
Plex is way more polished than Jellyfin
@@simdevilsNo it isn't. I'm a Lifetime Plex Pass subscriber and an Emby Premiere Lifetime subscriber. I run all three side by side pointed at the same media library so I can compare them. Plex is the only one I never use.
With the experience I've had with Jellyfin, I'm more than happy I paid for Plex Lifetime, about 60€ on offer years ago! Won't be so happy if they change the conditions of the Lifetime now though, that's for sure.
Imagine paying for botnet
Can anyone point me to a DETAILED TECHNICAL explanation of what is Plex, how does it work, what network connection goes to where? Their official docs is a literal garbage, and insufficient. I expect someone made some network drawing, where does the traffic goes, and how my various endpoints could grab those media files. I honestly expect someone can post a meaningful blogpost or a PROPER youtube video. All I found on YT sofar is AD-infested junk and incluencer BS.
Your endpoints connect directly over the internet (or LAN if local) to your own media server, where you store your own video files. Plex's server just points your endpoints in the right direction. In the event that your endpoints cannot directly connect to your server, Plex offers a relay/proxy service on their servers, but this is capped at 1-2 Mbps.
I would be OK if they just had 2 version. Plex for my movies, tv and stuff, Nothing else. and then their new stuff with streaming and junk. Just let my local version work without needing to talk to any of their servers. Then they could charge more for their services filled version, and the stand alone version would need very little work and support.