Build your own audio mixer (mint tin, passive, no voltage)

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  • @MrBrymstond
    @MrBrymstond 7 років тому +14

    I believe everyone was wanting to see the wiring done one at a time and why when you're doing it. Then there was no test, but great idea. I like using compartments like that can or other throw away containers instead of making or buying one.

    • @dennismikha7541
      @dennismikha7541 5 років тому

      it's the concept :D
      surely no need to prove that it is working as expected

  • @niftykeentypedog
    @niftykeentypedog 6 років тому +9

    You NEED the third terminal of the pots connected to signal ground otherwise the voltage divider established by the pots won't work properly. Wired as shown you may find audio leaks through even when the pots are wound all the way down. With the ground connection in place, turning the pot all the way down shorts the 'wiper' terminal to ground, which ensure no audio can leak through.

    • @TrollFaceTheMan
      @TrollFaceTheMan 6 років тому

      I am pretty sure he is using them as variable resistors only for this.

  • @slickshott
    @slickshott 4 роки тому +2

    Totally gonna make one now! Thank you for this video!

  • @cmj20002
    @cmj20002 6 років тому +1

    Might have been easier using a step bit, they tend to be gentle. They will not grab and pull the tin up the bit. So you are using point to point rather than a PCB. That makes sense. JohnAudioTech built a nice little preamp in a plastic case. I am thinking of building something like these and looking for ideas, so thanks for the video.

  • @glendalrodrigues5948
    @glendalrodrigues5948 6 років тому +17

    Can you show us the demo how it works..

  • @harisct4468
    @harisct4468 6 років тому +11

    No diagram, no test...

  • @johnsalbrecht
    @johnsalbrecht 8 років тому +3

    Great little project, i plan to build one. One note - you could have put the pots on the bottom and jacks on the sides and the lid would then be the bottom and opening it would not need the flexibility and length of wires as nothing is mounted to the lid.

    • @glencouls
      @glencouls  8 років тому +2

      Great idea!

    • @MrBrymstond
      @MrBrymstond 7 років тому +2

      But he's really selling Altoids...

    • @glencouls
      @glencouls  7 років тому +3

      MrBrymstond fresh breath pays for itself in the long run.

  • @Eblanc
    @Eblanc 5 років тому +3

    I would really like to hear it. See if there's any hum. wondering if there was a need for resistors, or capacitors, or logarithmic pots instead of linear.

  • @MrTauron77
    @MrTauron77 Рік тому

    Annak idején sztereo - mono jelközösítőt építettem két RCA bemenettel egy RCA kimenettel. A jelbemenetre egy 25K sztereo potmétert, a mono kimenetre egy 47K mono potmétert raktam. De fém doboz helyett müanyag dobozt használtam.

  • @Fun-io9kv
    @Fun-io9kv 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks and is it a good idea to cover resistors ,bcuz they may heat. Ain't they?

    • @seanseoltoir
      @seanseoltoir 8 місяців тому

      There should not be enough power going through a audio cable like that to generate any sort of noticeable heat.

  • @jeanquintella
    @jeanquintella 2 роки тому +1

    Good tutorial of making holes in a mint tin. But about wiring...

    • @seanseoltoir
      @seanseoltoir 8 місяців тому

      More likely, how NOT to make holes in a mint tin... My impression of his thin metal fabrication skills is that he should stick with thicker plastic since it is more forgiving...

  • @jonathanhickey9617
    @jonathanhickey9617 3 роки тому

    Great idea. I am going to make something very similar. Where could I buy the parts? I see pats on amazon but I can't find any headphone jacks online.

    • @glencouls
      @glencouls  3 роки тому

      Parts are on Amazon and mouser

  • @KiR_3d
    @KiR_3d 7 років тому

    Hello, Glen! Very good video, thanks!
    I want to build my own and simple mixer to mix up my PC sound card's sound and the C64 (old machine) sound. It's sound comes from RCA. Will it be the same task? I guess it's "yes" but who knows, maybe there are some nuances...
    Also it's interesting to see the scheme (yeah, I know it's simple :) ).
    One more (important) question: the box carries "ground". Is it safe to leave it non-isolated? Can it cause some shortcut with destroying some audio components that will be plugged into this mixer?

  • @Schneekardinal
    @Schneekardinal Рік тому

    The drill section of this video had me anxious and sweating.

    • @glencouls
      @glencouls  Рік тому +1

      I was sweating too but it was because it was a hundred degrees that day. Thanks for watching.

  • @ziplague
    @ziplague 7 років тому +3

    i suggest u draw some simple schematic of the wiring and add it to the description of the video. For many if not most people interested in making the project, this video is going to be relatively useless. Sure they will make the holes and try to figure out the wiring from reading the comments section and hoping they find someone with the information, But that's not easy for those with no experience with electronics. Some general specs would be nice too (what it can be and cannot be connected too), or else someone might connect this to an amp and fry it.

    • @dennismikha7541
      @dennismikha7541 5 років тому

      lol, u serious? :D
      just watch 13:42

    • @scottbrownNZ
      @scottbrownNZ 4 роки тому

      Yeah would be a great help... goes from individual parts to a complete project with little explanation.

  • @scottlogan5116
    @scottlogan5116 7 років тому +32

    pronounced po ten she om mitter....

  • @dmbers892
    @dmbers892 8 років тому +1

    If I wanted to connect a phone and computer, while allowing to do phones calls what would need to be different. In other words, there would be an output from the computer to the mixer and an output from the phone to the mixer that would also receive voice audio. The output on the mixer would be able to do headphones with mic as well.

    • @glencouls
      @glencouls  8 років тому

      radio shack makes a phone voice recorder. it's an audio splitter that comes off of your handset into a headphone jack. they're $20.00 at most. you can probably find one on amazon.com. once you have that device, plug that into one channel of your board, then the computer stereo out into another channel. your mic unfortunately will need to be the handset of your phone, or the other person can't hear you. This board unfortunately is not advanced enough to pull off mix-minus capabilities, and route your mic back to a caller, without creating a hell of a loop.

  • @roberts9628
    @roberts9628 8 років тому

    Hello glen,
    i have some questions and it would be nice if you could help me.
    could you tell me where you got all your stuff from? A link would be nice.
    Is there a difference between the input and output audio jack?
    And is this stereo or mono? And if it is mono, is it a lot more to do it with stereo?
    Btw nice project

    • @glencouls
      @glencouls  8 років тому

      I'm getting the parts together for you. I purchased everything from ebay, using these search terms:
      Potentiometers
      5 x 10K Ohm B10K 10KB Linear DUAL Taper Potentiometer Pot 17mm Shaft
      Knobs
      10 Pcs 6mm Shaft Hole Dia Potentiometer Pot Knobs Caps WD
      I'm still working on the stereo headphone ports, I will get back to you and post it here. I need to make a schematic too, check back shortly.

    • @roberts9628
      @roberts9628 8 років тому

      +glencouls Thanks man

    • @glencouls
      @glencouls  8 років тому

      +Robert S you want to look up "5 pin stereo 3.5mm or 1/8th inch headphone jack" on ebay. 5 pins are Ground, L -, L +, R -, R+. They may not be pinned that way directly, you may want to pipe some audio through them to confirm pinout before you start to solder. The stereo headphone Jacks i selected were long, not fat. I think fat might conflict for space too much. Working on wire diagram with my new Surface tablet. I will get back to you soon with a diagram.

    • @roberts9628
      @roberts9628 8 років тому

      +glencouls Thanks. Right now I don't have time to build it, but in a few weeks or month I will definetly try it.

    • @roberts9628
      @roberts9628 8 років тому

      +glencouls I have another stupid question: What thickness of the wires is recommended for audio stufff like this or what did you use?

  • @lettucey8401
    @lettucey8401 6 років тому

    cool, thx for the vid, would it possible to add a tone control for one channel?

  • @016632
    @016632 4 місяці тому

    can you have 3 outputs each with 3 nobs to control volume

  • @jaypee9785
    @jaypee9785 6 років тому +2

    okay so if i'm understanding this correctly, you have 3 channels in, one out, and no cross-fading, right?

  • @jameshauser1507
    @jameshauser1507 Рік тому

    This guy must have never heard of a step-drill bit.

    • @glencouls
      @glencouls  Рік тому +1

      Step drilling would tear that little mint tin to pieces, but you go ahead and try it.

  • @westonstander
    @westonstander 4 роки тому

    That's awesome!

    • @glencouls
      @glencouls  4 роки тому

      Thanks man, I need to get back to this and make a two channel fader with Amp. I purchased all the parts. Coming soon.

  • @donalupendra2618
    @donalupendra2618 2 роки тому

    Is this sopport mic?

  • @yikeisaac
    @yikeisaac 7 років тому

    I read somewhere that linear potentiometers don't work for mixing, but you have to get audio ones. Is this really true? Also with these same parts could you make four inputs too. I wonder if you have to buy a higher K resistors for more inputs?

    • @seldisgaming385
      @seldisgaming385 7 років тому

      Isaac Parker yes that is true I know how to fix that but it will be to long for a comment so look it up I don't mean to be rude

    • @Jeff-Russ
      @Jeff-Russ 7 років тому

      Simple solution www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/tt-electronics-bi/P160KNP-0EC15A100K/987-1717-ND/5957461

  • @amit-hq9ce
    @amit-hq9ce 6 років тому +1

    can we use 3.5 jack in output ?

    • @glencouls
      @glencouls  6 років тому

      Yes, really any output you want will be fine. Stereo in, probably means you want stereo out.

  • @titancrawfort5203
    @titancrawfort5203 7 років тому

    why is there a resistor in the last kabel befire the output?

  • @tubeDude48
    @tubeDude48 7 років тому

    At 6:36 you say rider. That is actually called a TANG.
    Since you will most likely won't be putting any force
    on the POT's. Use a pliers and snap it right off.

    • @glencouls
      @glencouls  7 років тому

      Ted Mieske great suggestion with the pliers, thanks for your correction.

    • @tubeDude48
      @tubeDude48 7 років тому

      Thanks! I will subscribe and Thumbs-Up.

    • @heavyion
      @heavyion Рік тому

      I always break them off :D

  • @mutedsounds2k
    @mutedsounds2k 7 років тому

    No, really! LINEAR (B10K) pots for an AUDIO application?? You should replace them AS SOON AS POSSIBLE with LOGARITHMIC ones (A10K). Because the human hear has a logarithmic response, you know... Other than this, there would be enough room for a fourth channel.

    • @dennismikha7541
      @dennismikha7541 5 років тому

      what's the difference with all those amps using linear? or those are 'converting' the pot changes to logarithmic values(at least seen that emulated on arduino)?

  • @vitsirucka6385
    @vitsirucka6385 5 років тому +2

    Poor soldering!
    You should start adding solder when you are touching the wire with the iron.(not solder to iron, then to wire just everything at Once)

  • @shrineprincy4800
    @shrineprincy4800 7 років тому +1

    I want to know how it works

  • @Kragatar
    @Kragatar 5 років тому +1

    "Potentio
    meter".

  • @mandaloresmercy
    @mandaloresmercy 7 років тому

    Hi, I would like to build one of these however I was wondering if you could post or send me a parts number list. (the audio pot meters & headphone jack parts you used &/or a circuit diagram with this on it. Thanks!

    • @glencouls
      @glencouls  7 років тому

      Mandalorian Mercy yes, I have been needing to put this list together for a while now. please subscribe, that will give you advance notice when I release the video for that. I just purchased some USB female inputs which I will be using to create a powered version of this same mixer. this will give me a 2watt amplifier that will hopefully counteract the 10percent volume drop at the resistor I have been experiencing. This will just be USB powered, not USB data.

    • @mandaloresmercy
      @mandaloresmercy 7 років тому

      Alright, so I subscribed. I like your stuff, just wish you'd show the circuitry part in more detail. Any chance a quick list of parts numbers could be compiled though? Perhaps posted in the video description. I've been scratching my head over how to wire the audio in jack - pot - (resistor) - audio out jack connections. I understand you have the grounds linked between the audio jacks (i think). How are you wiring the left and right audio to the same pot?
      I'd expect the pot 3 pins to be "left audio in, left audio out, ground". So I don't see how you can be using 1 pot per audio in ports. Can you clarify this for me?

    • @glencouls
      @glencouls  7 років тому +1

      Mandalorian Mercy I will get to this soon. I have to paint my condo today in preparation for renting it out. then I will open the mixer and get the information you need.

    • @glencouls
      @glencouls  7 років тому +1

      the pots are double tapered so there are 6 pins per pot. list below, sorry I'm putting this together trying juggle a crazy busy life right now. video and drawing to follow eventually.
      Parts list, all from ebay. except resistors from radioshack going out business sale.
      Knobs: 10 Pcs 6mm Shaft Hole Diameter Potentiometer Pot Knobs Caps
      Pots: 5 x 10K Ohm B10K 10KB Linear DUAL Taper Potentiometer Pot 17mm Shaft
      Jack: 3.5 mm Jack Panel Mount Female Stereo 1/8" Solder Terminal Audio Jack
      Resistors: 1k I think you need 6 but I need to open the box again and count.

    • @glencouls
      @glencouls  7 років тому

      oh yeah, forgot... 1 mint tin and lots of fresh breath. LOL. solder,wire, etc.

  • @mbongenisimela4757
    @mbongenisimela4757 6 років тому

    very inteligent but you did not show us how to connect its qulity and everything etc

  • @RahulKapoorokb
    @RahulKapoorokb 7 років тому +4

    That's so good vdo but confusion in wireing so pls. if possible do diagram on paper.. tnx.

    • @glencouls
      @glencouls  7 років тому +5

      Rahul Kapoor I am working on a new version that takes power from USB, this power is used to amplify the signal so there is no longer a drop in audio level. I will document the wiring for both then. I'm sorry for the delay on this, I have moved an prepping my old condo for a renter to move in. life has been very, very, busy.

    • @aroncahill2219
      @aroncahill2219 7 років тому

      Can't wait to see that new video

  • @ionsorinporojan149
    @ionsorinporojan149 5 років тому

    Where the hell is the DEMO and the REVIEW ???!!!???!!!

  • @DRAWNBOX
    @DRAWNBOX 8 років тому

    what exactly is the point of the resisters?

    • @glencouls
      @glencouls  8 років тому

      +DRAWNBOX to avoid cancellation of two audio feeds. We want a mix, not an abrupt drop out.

    • @DRAWNBOX
      @DRAWNBOX 8 років тому

      so, it weakens the signal so both can exist?

    • @glencouls
      @glencouls  8 років тому +1

      +DRAWNBOX "if you gradually delay the audio going through the second channel, the peaks and troughs of the two audio waves shift out of alignment. Because of the unique properties of sine waves, the combination of the two channels will now still produce a sine wave of the same frequency, but its level will be lower than if the two channels were in phase, and we say that partial phase cancellation has occurred. When the second channel is delayed such that its peaks coincide exactly with the first channel's troughs (and vice versa), the two waveforms will combine to produce silence. At this point we say that the waveforms are completely 'out of phase' with each other and that total phase cancellation has occurred." The resistors prohibit the phase cancellation, in theory anyway.

    • @glencouls
      @glencouls  8 років тому

      sorry to wait so long to get back with you, but I had to look this up. My previous answer isn't exactly wrong, it just lacks all technical detail and an explanation of what is happening on an audio theory level. I'm not trying to come off like a sound pro here, a good audio engineer is worth their weight in gold. When it comes to this stuff I'm a tinkerer at best. I have wired studios for TV and Radio but I consider that more component installation over audio engineering. Thanks for watching my video. I'm going to be installing some tablets in my car with 5.1 digital surround sound. if interested please subscribe.

  • @wolframodtojan
    @wolframodtojan 8 років тому

    i want to see if that would really works.

    • @glencouls
      @glencouls  8 років тому

      pick up the parts, you will enjoy the project, and have a working audio mixer when finished.

    • @wolframodtojan
      @wolframodtojan 8 років тому

      glencouls Can u build another one? and i'll buy it. Hehe 😂

    • @glencouls
      @glencouls  8 років тому

      +Wolfram John Odtojan that's no fun for either of us. the next thing I build will be a USB powered amp for it.

    • @wolframodtojan
      @wolframodtojan 8 років тому

      Im really confused of making of it. I dont think if it works.

    • @wolframodtojan
      @wolframodtojan 8 років тому

      Can you pls upload a video showing how it really works. please

  • @julianpre62
    @julianpre62 8 років тому

    what if we dont use a resister

    • @glencouls
      @glencouls  8 років тому

      +julian preciado thanks for your question. As I understand it, the resistors have two functions. 1) to knock the audio level down a little so audio isn't coming in too hot. 2) to avoid mic cancellation or component cancellation when too feeds of similar audio are competing for the same channel. Our aim here is a mix and not abrupt cut, or the bass of one channel coming through more noticeably than the other. The resistors help facilitate that over a bare wire.

  • @ravist8243
    @ravist8243 8 років тому

    How much resistance

    • @glencouls
      @glencouls  8 років тому

      +ravis T, 1k or 1000 I go over this at about 12:15 (I may have said it too fast), this will result in slight drop in audio levels, up to 10%. I'm running my audio into a computer, so I can just boost the audio level in the computer up a little over unity, and it's no big deal. Depending on your application, you may want to add a small power amplifier circuit. I have not modes that in to this yet. I want to see if I can power one using USB, in the future. So many projects, so little time.

    • @ravist8243
      @ravist8243 8 років тому

      +glencouls good , you shoot video to show us

  • @ahmadamin8421
    @ahmadamin8421 7 років тому

    The picture how to wire, please

  • @tubeDude48
    @tubeDude48 7 років тому

    Get a cheap Hot Air Gun at: Harbor Freight!

  • @ManimalDetroit
    @ManimalDetroit 3 роки тому

    No test in the end. What a bollocks

  • @dtwistrewind7361
    @dtwistrewind7361 6 років тому

    You butchered that lid, but great video, a pair of side cutters would trim the slithers left my the drill neater than a hammer. Also I think whoever showed you how to tin cables does not like you you heat the cable and bring the solder to the cable stabbing at it defeats the flow bond.

  • @dilipkumarmalviya2787
    @dilipkumarmalviya2787 7 років тому

    Please send me circuit diagram

  • @scottlogan5116
    @scottlogan5116 7 років тому +1

    po ten she o meter lol

  • @aishwaryaagaje6335
    @aishwaryaagaje6335 5 років тому

    Sond

  • @usaaudit5051
    @usaaudit5051 5 років тому

    The pots are not meters. The are potentiometes all one word. Look it up.

    • @glencouls
      @glencouls  5 років тому +2

      While it may not conform to your pronunciation, a pot DOES actually meter, a pot is a sliding or rotating contact that forms an adjustable voltage divider so at full open you get 100 percent and at full closed you get a diminished volume sometimes zero or off, other time 5 or 10 percent. So actually it does meter. I suppose percentage could be seen as potential so there you go mash them together. Say it any way that floats your boat, it's metered.
      Video is already produced not changing it now. Will on second video adding amplifier since you guys like "mitter" so much, thanks.

  • @radittia2408
    @radittia2408 6 років тому

    Gac ngerti bosone

  • @jimjaeger8968
    @jimjaeger8968 3 роки тому

    Nice try.

  • @johnadera3247
    @johnadera3247 4 роки тому

    Incomplete

  • @johncoops6897
    @johncoops6897 7 років тому

    For gawds sake, show people the proper way. Use a CENTRE PUNCH, not a bloody nail.

    • @glencouls
      @glencouls  7 років тому +5

      John Coops thanks John, I didn't mean to upset the gawds. I had no idea a finishing nail was so offensive, it did do a decent job, and the only punch I had that moment was really too wide, it does pay to have the right tool for the job, but sometimes improvising works, or screws up the project beyond any help, I'm glad it turned out OK.

    • @johncoops6897
      @johncoops6897 7 років тому

      You are making an instructional video. Show people the correct way to do things, and then by all means show them ways to improvise (I have no problem with that). But I just noticed your soldering technique and wire tinning instructions, and that is just hilariously wrong, so the holes are the least of your problems.

    • @glencouls
      @glencouls  7 років тому +7

      John Coops john, if you have a better model then by all means upload it. I have had no problems with my solder joints and the stereo pots have been working fine since installation. it's incredible to me how somebody such as yourself with zero posts is throwing rocks at somebody who is trying to pass a little bit of knowledge with a build that works and they enjoy so that others may have a similar experience. Good luck with your next project.

    • @johncoops6897
      @johncoops6897 7 років тому

      You obviously are an idiot. There are no stereo pots. It hasn't been working fine... THIS CANNOT WORK. Hint: all the inputs are short circuited. ROFL - what a troll. Show us a video of the unit working, go on.

    • @glencouls
      @glencouls  7 років тому +9

      John Coops John the wiring is not shorted. These are stereo pots and there are stereo inputs and one stereo output. Why are you relying on name calling when challenged? Is it because you would rather tear something or somebody else down under the ambiguity of the Internet instead of taking the initiative with your know it all attitude and creating a video of your own? I find it interesting that you are calling into question my credibility (the troll comment) when you don't have a single video posted to your account. You contribute nothing but are willing grade others work so readily, and you post so frequently it is really peculiar behavior. I don't do this to make money, or look for fame, I post these little videos to help people and show what worked for me, also a record for me to look back on how I did something. If you don't like me, or my video please don't make the project. it's that simple. please feel free to keep commenting however, everytime you do, the video earns another view which pushes this "idiot" video (as seen from your eyes) over other legitimate how to videos, something you should be proud of, so please keep commenting.