MTG Lore: The Praetors
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- Опубліковано 28 жов 2015
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With Phyrexian forces reemerging on the battered world of MIrrodin, terrifying Praetors have risen to power. These leaders rule the horrifying Phyrexians, as they work to usher in New Phyrexia.
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The game is at LEAST twice as fun when you know the lore
this
Raider Gamingo how he an idiot?
At LEAST
@@MFHOOD56 You sound like an idiot.
@@MFHOOD56 its been 1 year since you left this comment, how do you feel about your stupidity now?
What's interesting about Urabrask is that he embodies how red is sometimes a morally superior colour to white. Ironically, red's unpredictability and opposition to any sort of restriction makes it more consistent and stubborn in its views, which is what prevents it from being utterly corrupted and subdued, like white was in the Machine Orthodoxy. A lot of people think that white and red are both linked to empathy, but I would said that white is not empathetic at all. White does what is right (most of the time) because it KNOWS what is right. It doesn't relate to those it's helping; it protects the weak because it's the right thing to do. That is not empathy, and it also explains why white's morals can be twisted and subverted in a way red cannot. White relies on what it thinks it right. Thus, it can be mistaken and lied to, essentially. Red does not do the right thing for the sake of doing good; it does it because it feels what others are feeling. Because of this, it is much more difficult to subdue red - especially in the example of New Phyrexia - because it is easier to change what people think than what people feel. Maybe I should go outside.
Both are capable of being some of the forces of the greatest good and the most terrible evil. White-aligned and red aligned characters are often driven by morality and their own sense of right and wrong rather than simply self-interest, but in excess can result in truly oppressive forces in complete opposite ways. White, more than other colors, seeks out maintaining order and destroying what its characters view as threats to the world, however, in excess this can lead to committing atrocities out of paranoia of threats, as well as developing an unfeeling coldness towards said threats. Red on the other hand, actively seeks out spreading chaos, destroying principles of order and law that are necessary to have a proper society, and its characters can go around spreading havoc against innocents, seeing similarly no remorse or care for others outside their beliefs. I think white's general adherence to concepts of truth, justice, and order, while still having the same sort of defiance red has, except a more focused defiance towards what it perceives as evil rather than just a blind one towards law, so even if how white characters act is unjust, they at least follow what they perceive as right rather just what they feel like.emotionally. I definitely understand what your getting at in terms of red's admirable traits though, and it really shows how concepts of good and evil vary throughout the color pie.
So, in summary, white always does what it thinks it's right, at least from it's point of view. And red, being relationated with strong emotions it's capable of feel empathy?
The Line between good and evil runs right through the middle of every human heart...
And right through the middle of every single color of mana. There is a tyrannical element to every set of colors.
White is defined by order and the rule of law. Order and the rule of law usually exist for the greater good, but if that perceived good is far greater than the lives of ordinary citizens, you will require repression to force your order upon those who would reject it.
Red is defined by individuality and emotionality, but just as emotional behavior can foster empathy, impulsivity can also make you blind to the problems of others.
Green is probably the least well defined color of magic, at least on a conceptual level, but the basic idea is that it represents nature and there is untold suffering inherent to the natural state of, well, everything, so this one is easy as well.
Black is selfishness, and while anarcho-capitalists might disagree vehemently, there is an inherent problem with people only pursuing what's in their own best interest.
Blue... Well, once you are more than three standard deviations more intelligent than the average citizen, it becomes hard to even view them as a person.
naphackDT I kind of disagree with Green. Green seems to be the color of the natural path or natural way of everything. Most of the removel for green is about returning to nature, or becoming part of nature. The color would represent growth and nit meddeling.
Go touch grass.
Vorinclex wants to have a word with you.
I LOVEE Elesh Norn's art. The perfect mix of pure white and blood red made her clean while still impersonate the phyrexian. She truly represent the "white side" of the the phyrexian. I need it now xD!
Seems hard to walk through doors with this giant head plate
who needs doors?
Tear the building to shreds
Must be hard for doors to stand.
When you have the Intent to tear the building down you can Redesign Everything doors included.
Pretty sure the doors are have a toughness 2 or less.
I feel like Urabrask is the least inherently "evil" of the praetors... His "living is the moment" philosophy clearly makes him the least reliable or loyal to his cause in a sense. He also seems like the praetor you'd most want to sit down and drink with.
Almost feel like each Praetor deserves their own lore video. Is there really not much else lore to them other than what you covered?
there isn't sadly
Well there is now
@@courchar now there is
@@Case2_0 where would this lore be found if you could point me in the right direction
@@goldendoomslayer6301 I'd like to know as well
Although I love all the Praetors I remember seeing someone opening a Jin Gitaxias at prerelease and felt deeply in love with it. There's something so badass about it's design. I thing it's because it bears so much ressemblance to the xenomorph, I don't know, but I was so jealous of the dude that oppened the blue Praetor
He does doesn't he. These sets just seem so heavy metal to me, no pun intended
Sheoldred is my favorite Praetor, always will be. I do hope we revisit New Phyrexia again in the future, I'd like more insight as to what's going on there.
Would be interesting to see a Phyrexian civil war.
New to mtg and Sheoldred is my favorite black creature so far, I mostly play blue eldrazi triad and a deck full of Chandra cards
With Ashiok searching for them, I think they will be coming back in a big way in the next year
How about now? Regretting that yet?
i found your channel 3 days ago and ive already watched every lore video
well I appreciate that a great deal :)
That loyalty
+seibenlore I watched you for awhile keep it up
+PrayForGaming Yeah they are pretty good.
+PrayForGaming same xD
Although I love Elesh Norn, I think Urabrask is my favorite of the praetors.
I remember when I started playing hearing how much of a powerhouse elesh norn was. I didn't think much of it at first, but as I continued playing and understanding the mechanics, this single creature became a reminder of how a simple card can do wonders in a deck and be a nightmare for your opponent(s)
Anorexia is no joke.
+Axel icious this made me laugh more than it should have i think...
Any one else get a giant chill when you see these guys
Well at first yes, because I fought against the phyrexians. Guess I got assimilated because my commander deck is a eldrazi phyrexian horde.
Gotta say: Urabrask is by far my favorite character in MtG.
edgy boi
I think this might be my new favorite magic related channel. You help me learn so much about the lore of this awesome game!
Oh man.... I REALLY wish i got into magic sooner. I would love to have experienced Scars of Mirrodin set so much!
All Praetors are the stuff of nightmares...
I think that Elesh Norn is kinda cute, a hug might be uncomfortable but I think she would be nice
ARCHMAGOS DECIUS KRONEN Lol apparently she’s the most ruthless of all of them.
Wow, buying all 5 of them are about $70 XD
TheSushiandme they dropped a lot :)
THANK YOU SEIBEN!!! This is exactly what I wanted this Halloween
Can't wait to see the rest of these tales! Really appreciate these well-spoken lore videos
New Phyrexia is one of the best sets wizards ever printed. I hope to see a return some day
i love the way you pronounce synthesis
Thenthethith
I asked for this topic almost a year ago and you finally did it! New Phyrexia is still one of the most intriguing stories in Magic tbh.
I enjoy the way you present your material. Just waiting for a good break in my schooling to binge on most of the videos I've missed.
The Grand Thynthethis. XD
Sorry. Love your channel.
Roger Rabbit he ith not mike tython
I just came back to this video by mistake and no joke almost pointed out thynthethis again. Omfg.
Urabrask is my favorite card/character in general :D
I've always wanted to learn more about some of the major characters of New Phyrexia and this definitely helped! Great job with the serires!
Great series, can't wait to see what you will do in December! Thanks for all the videos
phraxia vs eldarzi. I want to see this so badly!!! Elish Norn vs Ermrukl
Eldrazi would win for sure in my opinion, but both are awesome
+Hudson Baker I mean they're both the only plane manipulators and consumers in Magic. wouldn't it be crazy to see phraxian oil on an eldrazi and see what should happen?
Plz quit trying to destroy magic I just got into it and I don't need that destroying everything that ever existed and ending the game lol xD
Yeah nothing would be left lol now picture eldrazi vs phyrexian vs sliver that might even destroy the real world lol
+William Henry slivers would get destroyed first regardless lol. or corrupted either way lol.
+Marc “that Greek guy” Talleos lore wise yes, in the actual game the game would be over before you get a chance to cast any of the titans unless you have insane ramp or some sort of show and tell strategy.
one of my friends has this card and it makes my life a nightmare
Agreed
me no like playing against it
+Mister Kibbinz Still, who would pass up an opportunity to get a free Elsh?
Someone in my playgroup has one also. I dread the day he draws and plays it.
+Ravoltex Nobody should.
Every morning I start off by listening/watching your 13 nights of magic videos. Keep up the good work.
Just saw that card for the first time. Was looking for stuff for my EDH deck/s. Very cool channel, I plan on watching all the videos. Thanks!
what's the name of the song in the video
My first pack of the set I opened a Vorinclex, but I never opened Elesh. Go figure.
As someone, who started Magic back in the days of Mirrodin and left the game shortly after the first Ravnica-block, I am fascinated by the events of New Phyrexia. Loving the lore-video,thanks for retelling the story.:)
Thank you for continually making lore videos I speak for myself and probably others when I say you have made Magic the Gathering an easier subject to get into.
soul of new phyrexia is of the white faction correct? (I am new and like the white phyrexian's and bought soul of new phyrexia as it is my favourite artwork so far I have seen in MTG)
Azazels Gaming yes, because the white ones are who reign over Mirrodin after the liberation of Karn by elspeth, venser and koth. Elesh Norn destroyed Sheoldred's forces. The green and red praetors preferred to remain hidden and the blue one lost all his support with Tezzeret's flee. Now the remaining mirrans are returning, thanks to the phyrexian civil war and the option made by Urabrask to let them live
would love to see them again
I never knew much about the praetors and no other sources provide the information. I really appreciate it.
Now that I am getting closer to being the last video of this series I hope next year you will do the same thing! It is really nice to watch these videos... Oh and a Elesh Norn, dam yes :).
brought mirrodin into bean
evil bean known as yawgmoth
pray-uh-turs
the great thin-thi-this
the vicious warm
shear-ul-dred
thranes
I know, right? Physically hurts my ears, like when people try to say artificer as art if Icer.
I know, but this guy has like the only MTG lore videos
Elesh Norn... Grand pain in my ass...
I have always loved the art on this card, how the white and red mixes is just plain (*ba dum tss*) stunning. To learn that Elesh Norn has some awesome lore to follow along just makes the card so much more awesome than it really is.
I've really enjoyed this series. Thanks for putting it out there.
Showing my age; My favorite Praetor= Ebon Praetor (Easter bunny wedding!). P
I really enjoy all the videos. Love the lore; you're doing a great service for the community. My only criticism is that you're always mispronouncing stuff ... regular English stuff. I don't mind the way anybody pronounces words created by WotC, but normal English words are a different matter. Maybe it's not your native language (which is cool, not trying to hate); I don't want to seem like an elitist jerk, but just being a minor UA-cam celeb and providing a service for the MTG community, ya know... just some friendly criticism. And again, thanks for all the videos, I do really enjoy watching all these to complement the cards I play with.
This video has made my night! As if you had answered my prayers for the praetors story. Amazing as always :D
I do like how all the praetors fight among each other with different philosophies about how phyrexia should be. I never really thought about it. Interesting lore today!
I can understand the red mana rebellion of the phyrexia cause red mana is passion freedom things crush under the normal hierarchy of phyrexia
You didn't follow WUBRG. That displeases me.
I started playing for few months now, & I wanted to know more about it, & Wow. There is a whole lot! Thank you for these lore Videos
Seibenlore plus praetors?? couldn't ask for more. Except maybe some Ezuri/elf lore... Great video! :D
Are praetors stronger than your average planeswalker?
depends on which planeswalker and which Praetor
Sadness of Africa why don't you ask Gix
@@mintegral1719 wait gix is still alive?
@@kanevivi he's technically not canonically dead.
@@mintegral1719 well learning alot I did not know.
Elesh Norn is pretty hot tbh
ummm whatever floats your boat man...
+EastwestIan just imagine her whispering sweet nothings into your ear
+EastwestIan here here
+David Nettey literally
I prefer ulamog
Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite is one of my favorite Praetors. I've even used this card in a Mono White splash of Colorless Deck including Artifacts
Love the lore and love the card even more! I have been thinking about about making a white weenie EDH deck and I could totally use and Elesh Norn to put it over the top! :D
phyrexians? more like necrons
Maybe that's why I enjoy them.
Really interested in the red mana factions story. Another great episode btw!
Called it! Well, I doubt I was the only one. Anyway, I did not play during this block, so thank you for catching up on all the lore. My friend did play during it, but he sort of phased out during Theros block. He complained that he did not like the use of the god subtype, but I responded that I think the praetors are more powerful and terrifying than any of the Theros pantheon.
I really dig the art you choose to use in this episode keep it up
I've started with Mtg, with Mirrodin Besieged and this Set is really iconic for me. And I didn't thought, that it was notably scary, but I understand it now. And the lore of Elesh Norn is really like fighting for the distopia of a Mind Police :-D
I find really interesting the lore of this plane in general. Keep up the good work.
I was expecting Urabrask to be the give away, but you're going all out on this on with Elesh. Well done, great choice.
:p I've been meaning to collect playsets of all the praetors because I thought they all looked cool and always wondered what their background was. So this came at just the right time!
As you could probably tell by my profile picture, I love New Phyrexia. It was my firsts, first set to know, first set to get the lore of, first set to gape in awe at. I am surprised that there was never a strong alliance between Jin-Gitaxias and Elesh Norn; they have the closest ideals, and could work very well together.
Nice video, always wanted to know more about new phyrexia. Keep it up man!
This channel is exactly what I have been wanting from the magic community. Who doesn't love the lore. Loved this video, was the first one of yours I watched. Always enjoy listening something about the Phyrexians and Phyrexia. Keep on putting the content out I'm subscribed and look forward to seeing more from your channel.
same here haha
i found this channel a while ago and have been spreading the word ever since! thanks boss!
I knew about Karn but I never knew anything about the Praetors or Phyrexia. It sounds like their existence and presence in life is so twisted. I feel like I have a new respect for their cards. Knowing what they are all about realm changes the gameplay for me, I like making decks that stay true to the stories (like not having a deck with Eldrazi and inhabitants if Zendikar in it) I really want to go through what little cards I have from that set with this background in mind.
Nice video and a good explanation of the preators and their ruling system
The Praetors and New Phyrexians were the reason I started playing magic but I never got a hold of any of the preators sadly. Great video seiben!
I'm really happy you did a video on these!!
Great stuff, Seiben. Keep up the good work!
I love Elesh I hope to be the fortunate! Siebenlore, AWESOME video as the rest, I didn´t expect this topic though. It was very interesting to know about the Praetors, they still rule eternal formats!
Elesh Norn looks freaking awesome and the card doesn't disappoint as well.Also i like how every praetor has the personalty that represents their color very well.
I'm kind of interested in the Thranes' stories from the black Phyrexians. Old Phyrexia has some of my favorite art and definitely makes for a fantastic villain, and Sheoldred's faction would be fun to explore more of.
Elesh Norn is my favourite commander. She is so strong and a good attacker as well. I love your videos, keep continuing with your channel, because I learn so much about mtg lore. Thanks!
I love your vids and I am still kind of new to magic ,but this channel got me invested in the lore and the complexity of the story
it's really interesting how much personality all these guys have
The Phyrexians make great villains. I look forward to joining the Mirrodin resistance one again in the far future.
+LordLightning764
Hopefully it's still around if we ever go back to Mirrodin/New Phyrexia... last time we checked in with them, Koth claimed they were all (or at least mostly) dead.
love these videos man! hope you do another 25 days of xmas! keep up the good work man!
I love the art for the praetors and phyrexians in general. They remind me so much of clive barker and hr giger type art I love it.
I would love to build a theme deck around Elesh Norh. You pick good cards to give away as well and is much appriciated as a loyal follower of your work.
Elesh Norn is my favorite of the Praetors! Sleek in design with the pure white armoring plates stained by the very much organic blood. It's just such a good display of the contrasts new Phyrexians have over the old ones designs.
I love your viedos. I friend of mine told me to watch one just yesterday and now I've watched almost all of them. keep up the great job.
great video had no idea the lore behind all of these praetors
I love the Praetors they are such an interesting set of bag guys and I can't wait to see what has become of them while we're all off fighting the Eldrazi. I really hope I get the Elesh Norn she's the last one I need to complete my collection of the Praetors.
Love the lores videos man. Keep up the good work.
I always loved the story around new pherexia. Great job
Scars of mirrodin block, M12, and innistrad block will always have a special place in my heart from when I first started playing. I had a really shitty blue white control deck at the time using a bunch of cards I packed out. Although I know how to make decks now I wouldn't trade those days away for anything.
Wow seibenlore love this series!! Hopefully we can see more of these in the future!!
thank you for helping me catch up on the lore!
loved the info, it's great the learn the story behind the cards.
You should do more lore videas on Phyrexia. This is one of my favorite sets!
One of the first decks I ever built that I was proud of was a Sheoldred golgari deck that involved me tossing my creatures to the grave and summoning them endlessly back. Elesh Norn is a good choice for the giveaway though because she is probably the more well known Praetor.
good to know allot of lore from former sets. started only the last few sets
I recently found your channel. my girlfriend is tired of hearing the lore. but I freaking love it! keep it up!
Seems like every praetor has its own take on buff and debuff at the same time
This was a great video, New Phyrexia is my favorite set.. really hoping we see the phyrexians again sometime soon.
this lore is by far the coolest from this series!!