Inside the Chieftain's Hatch: Sherman VC “Firefly" part 1

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    The new episode of Inside the Chieftain's Hatch is dedicated to the Sherman VC "Firefly" tank. In the first part, Nicholas Moran will examine the tank's exterior and talk about how the designers managed to combine the small turret of the Sherman with the 17-pounder gun.
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  • @Puzzoozoo
    @Puzzoozoo 4 роки тому +22

    FWIW, my Dad's older brother Uncle Cliff[ord] was a commander in one of these, he survived the war, and lived to be 99, and a few weeks short of his 100th - Dad also survived the war [Royal Army Medical Corps] and lived to be 97.

  • @sirboombomb5243
    @sirboombomb5243 5 років тому +409

    *British Production Office 1943*
    Engineer: Sir the 17 pounder won't fit!
    Winston Churchill: Put it in sideways!
    Engineer: The radio won't fit!
    Winston Churchill: Cut a hole in the back of the turret and let it stick out the back!
    Engineer: The engine's no good!
    Winston Churchill: Get 5 car engines and put 'em together!

    • @justinm1319
      @justinm1319 5 років тому +9

      Lol

    • @Yoyle-jq9ul
      @Yoyle-jq9ul 5 років тому +43

      Lol potential history

    • @PNolandS
      @PNolandS 5 років тому +13

      *Get 5 car engines and put ‘em together!*

    • @flare9757
      @flare9757 5 років тому +12

      Sounds about right for British Tank design...

    • @MostlyPennyCat
      @MostlyPennyCat 4 роки тому

      I know this isn't the greatest tank in the world and that the 76mm armed Sherman supercedes it.
      But I don't love weapons because they're the best weapons.
      I love weapons when they come out with barking shit like this.
      5 engines and a turret bodged with gaffer tape.
      _salutes_
      Here's to you, you absolute mad lads.

  • @quaxky326
    @quaxky326 2 роки тому +3

    “Being good officers, they did indeed stop working on it. And then they immediately started to work on getting that order changed.”
    *Bruh 😂*

  • @minecraftantian6633
    @minecraftantian6633 4 роки тому +262

    Brits: we need to put the 17 pounder in a tank
    *Sees Sherman*
    Sherman: W-Wait!! That doesn't go there!?!

    • @m4albino201
      @m4albino201 4 роки тому +58

      Churchill: (┛`д´)┛it will fit

    • @minecraftantian6633
      @minecraftantian6633 4 роки тому +52

      @@m4albino201 *hentai sounds*

    • @mitskoala0380
      @mitskoala0380 4 роки тому +28

      @@minecraftantian6633 kyaaa.....

    • @carlosrex9097
      @carlosrex9097 3 роки тому +7

      Oh Sheibe

    • @k-874
      @k-874 3 роки тому +27

      @@m4albino201
      Sherman: *starts "leaking" oil everywhere*

  • @anthonyburke5656
    @anthonyburke5656 Рік тому +4

    The Sherman I really like was the one with the propellers sticking out the back.

  • @philk9501
    @philk9501 2 роки тому +3

    Always good to listen to a bloke who knows what he's talking about rather than read from a sheet. Cheers Nick mate

  • @morteparla6926
    @morteparla6926 4 роки тому +137

    Ironically, horsepower is essentially a useless measurement for tanks... what really matters, is torque. You need a lot of torque to move a lot of weight, which is what made the Chrysler engine in this tank beneficial. It was a lot heavier, and even had less horsepower than the Ford, but it had far more torque, and because of that, got to speed faster, could move up inclines faster, etc.

    • @leeham6230
      @leeham6230 3 роки тому +6

      I always wondered why they didn't put diesel engines in WW2 tanks. One would think that since diesels are torque monsters, they would be the optimal choice for moving a heavy vehicle. Nope! Petrol. There must be a reason.

    • @norfangl3480
      @norfangl3480 3 роки тому +2

      Diesel also isn't as flammable as petrol

    • @monobryn64
      @monobryn64 3 роки тому +14

      @@leeham6230 Basically inertia. If all your machines run on petrol, you only have to supply one type of fuel to all of your divisions. If some of your vehicles run on diesel and some on petrol, you'll have to send different proportions of diesel and petrol to your different units based on what exact combination of vehicles that specific unit is currently using. A supply nightmare.
      And you run the risk of some yahoo putting diesel in a petrol vehicle (or vice versa).

    • @khrhee5
      @khrhee5 3 роки тому +5

      @@leeham6230 1. diesel engines require more technology than petrol engines to make
      2. they are usually heavier than petrol engine

    • @leeham6230
      @leeham6230 3 роки тому +1

      @@monobryn64 Make all vehicles diesel; problem solved.

  • @Conn30Mtenor
    @Conn30Mtenor 5 років тому +63

    German tactical doctrine was to target the Fireflies whenever they were spotted. That says it all.

    • @samuel10125
      @samuel10125 5 років тому +16

      They may have had the 88 but they feared the Firefly so as you said fair to say the Firefly had quite the effect.

    • @fatmanbatman9374
      @fatmanbatman9374 5 років тому +15

      Yeah it put a dent in German morale one of these killed wittman

    • @larshenrik8900
      @larshenrik8900 5 років тому +3

      No source has been found stating that they specifically targeted fireflies first

    • @samuel10125
      @samuel10125 5 років тому +23

      @@larshenrik8900 actually yes there is. the Sherman Firefly was perhaps the most valued tank by British and Commonwealth commanders, as it was the only tank in the British Army able to reliably penetrate the frontal armour of Panthers and Tigers at the standard combat ranges in Normandy.
      This fact did not go unnoticed by the Germans, who realised that these long-barrel Shermans posed a much greater threat to their heavy tanks than the normal Shermans, and German tank crews and anti-tank gun crews were instructed to eliminate Fireflies first. Similarly, the Firefly crews realised that the distinctive long barrel of their 17-pounder gun made the Firefly stand out from standard Shermans, so crews attempted to disguise their tanks to reduce the likelihood of being targeted. Some crews had the front half of the olive drab gun barrel painted white on the bottom, or white with dark green on top, to give the illusion of a shorter gun barrel. Another suggestion was for a shorter wooden dummy gun to be mounted on the rear of the turret and point forward; however, this tactic does not appear to have been used in combat.

    • @larshenrik8900
      @larshenrik8900 5 років тому +3

      Samuel An actual document please. Provide that

  • @puskascat
    @puskascat 6 років тому +2

    A little bit of Monty Python always enters the scene when Mr Moran talks about WWII British tank design. Niiiice.

  • @xmanhoe
    @xmanhoe 6 років тому +17

    Love these videos ... THANKFULLY they have decreased the volume of the music

  • @anthonyburke5656
    @anthonyburke5656 Рік тому +2

    I do believe the Australians had completed a successful installation of a 17 pounder into a Sherman over a year before the British and their efforts were “reported” to the British, hence the “official” work for the Firefly.

  • @coced
    @coced 7 років тому +32

    Looking at the road wheels, they took testing very seriously

    • @Basih
      @Basih 3 роки тому

      Yeah, it faced off against a panther tank acquired from the french after WW2. There are videos on here on YT from those trials.

  • @61zulu77
    @61zulu77 2 роки тому +2

    The Aussies also contributed to the design of the 17 pounder on the Firefly

  • @JeanLucCaptain
    @JeanLucCaptain 4 роки тому +16

    France 1944: Shoemaker Gunner in Firefly with no combat experience vs 3 Tigers one of which is the Black Ace with 131 confirmed kills...
    GUESS WHO WINS😂

    • @guitarded55
      @guitarded55 4 роки тому +3

      The jew, of course

    • @JeanLucCaptain
      @JeanLucCaptain 4 роки тому +5

      @@guitarded55 um... no the SHOEMAKER. who mentioned jews??

    • @JeanLucCaptain
      @JeanLucCaptain 4 роки тому

      @John Cornell nope, he got him. Which is amazing because they were a greenhorn crew in a badly designed TD. The firefly had a lot of design problems.

    • @SvenTviking
      @SvenTviking 4 роки тому +5

      Jean-Luc Martel Wittman was killed by a Sherman of the Canadian Sherbrooke Fusiliers. Recent analysis of the action, the position of Wittmann’s Tiger and damage to the tank from photographs of the wreck proves it was the Canadians that got him. Ekins did kill three Tigers in one action though.

    • @JeanLucCaptain
      @JeanLucCaptain 4 роки тому +3

      @@SvenTviking huh... CANADIAN GET THEIR CREDIT STOLEN AGAIN. I got my information from Mark Felton.

  • @MostlyPennyCat
    @MostlyPennyCat 4 роки тому +2

    I don't care
    I don't _care_
    I _don't_ care
    It's beautiful and insane and I love it.
    The fact that it was effective and successful is icing.

  • @Rustycannon7734
    @Rustycannon7734 7 років тому +9

    i love my firefly and im so glad you did this video on it.

  • @lancaster5077
    @lancaster5077 6 років тому +7

    Good presentation Mr Moran - nicely put, and informative.

  • @deejayimm
    @deejayimm 2 роки тому +1

    I have some kind of sickness.
    I watch these videos over and over again....

  • @NLBoots
    @NLBoots 7 років тому +5

    I love these vids, looking forward to the interior segment :)

  • @shiro20
    @shiro20 7 років тому +5

    One of my favorite WoT tanks currently in the game

  • @savag3snip3rwotblitz90
    @savag3snip3rwotblitz90 5 років тому +3

    I really love these videos because I always wondered what it looks like in each tank. Make more plz

  • @General_Cartman_Lee
    @General_Cartman_Lee 7 років тому +225

    Nick either has a new girlfriend or he's dyed his hair to match the color of the tracks. :D

    • @TheChieftainsHatch
      @TheChieftainsHatch 7 років тому +155

      She dumped dye on me just before I flew to Sweden. I wasn't thrilled.

    • @thomasleonard2564
      @thomasleonard2564 7 років тому +5

      TheChieftainWoT y are the wheels so messed up and damaged on this Sherman Firefly

    • @m4_sherman
      @m4_sherman 7 років тому +5

      Thomas Leonard probably because it went through battle or just got battered over time

    • @justinm1319
      @justinm1319 6 років тому +6

      The_Chieftain Swedish porn saved my life in 'Nam

    • @aceous99
      @aceous99 3 роки тому

      @@justinm1319 ba ZING ah

  • @philliptomek6480
    @philliptomek6480 7 років тому +7

    Nice Video, keep on the great work!

  • @wallerdog
    @wallerdog 7 років тому

    Very nicely done!

  • @eddiecamacho3014
    @eddiecamacho3014 7 років тому +10

    Yessss..I love the Shermans!! (Including the Firefly)

  • @georgejohnson1537
    @georgejohnson1537 7 років тому +2

    Love these videos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @keithlarsen7557
    @keithlarsen7557 5 років тому +11

    17 pdr was 76mm, while the regular Sherman's gun was 75mm. I always wondered what made the 17pdr so special. The 75mm is about 2000 feet per second, and the 17pdr is a whopping 4000 fps. Its like 32 auto, and 30-06.

    • @HeirofGojira91
      @HeirofGojira91 5 років тому +5

      The gun cannons barrels; the Sherman 75mm wasn't obviously designed to be an AT gun cannon whereas the QF17 gun cannon was developed by the British after lessons learnt in the earlier stages of WWII BUT also when before the war too the British too realized that future tanks and AFV's would have new technology and armor and hence the 2 pdr or the 6 pdr even would not always fit the bill hence the QF 17 pdr gun cannon was developed - some of the QF 17 pdr were put on the 25 pdr carriages (due to production schedules and deadlines they didn't have time to properally install some of the earlier QF 17 pdr gun canons) hence the early QF 17 pdr gun cannons were called the QF 17 PHEASANTS .... and apparently there were used in North Africa ....
      But don't forget the QF 17 pdr is 76.2 mm x 55 Calibres = just under 4 meters if not 3.6 meters in length. The Sherman 75 was only 75mm x 40 Calibres = only about 3 meters ... so less velocity.
      ALTHOUGH the 75mm HE punch of the Sherman would have been SUPERIOR to the QF 17 pdr as the QF 17 pdr had a high velocity and needed BIG propellant charge and thick casing to enable the high performance of the gun AND the fact the QF 17 pdr did have a big recoil and night blindness flash from the powder and firing to the crews AND the fact the Sherman 75mm was 0.68 kg in HE filler - the QF 17 pdr gun cannon at best wasn't even 0.6 kg in HE punch - whilst both can get the job done - the fact the 75mm HE punch is obviously more useful and dangerous and does more splash in its damage for sure. Though no doubt the QF 17 pdr wins out in AP punch.

    • @SvenTviking
      @SvenTviking 4 роки тому +2

      Foom-zilla ゴジラ They cured the smaller bursting charge problem by putting less propellant in the HE cases, lowering the velocity, which meant they could use thinner walled shells so the burst charge could be larger. The Yanks never thought of that with their 76mm.

    • @billytheshoebill5364
      @billytheshoebill5364 3 роки тому +1

      @@SvenTviking well putting fewer powder means different ballistic which means you have to get different "lines" on the sight that leads to slower aiming time due to time taken to adjust aiming which is why the US doesnt want to do it with the 76 atleast from my point of view

    • @filmandfirearms
      @filmandfirearms 2 роки тому

      @@HeirofGojira91 The 75mm was meant to engage tanks. It was just built as a multi purpose gun, not a dedicated AT gun or a dedicated anti infantry gun

    • @kenneth9874
      @kenneth9874 Рік тому

      The 76mm was an American upgraded gun that fit properly

  • @tngtrivedi
    @tngtrivedi 5 років тому +2

    Definitely an underrated tank

  • @MisteriosGloriosos922
    @MisteriosGloriosos922 2 роки тому

    Informative video, thanks!!!

  • @ElysiumNZ
    @ElysiumNZ 6 років тому +66

    Dam captions keep turning back on after I turn them off. Anyone else getting this?

    • @brendanlang3596
      @brendanlang3596 5 років тому

      Yes i do to😀

    • @Laotzu.Goldbug
      @Laotzu.Goldbug 5 років тому

      Same. I think it's an option that the video uploader can do, to always have the video display subtitles until you turn it off.

    • @vicecapo8767
      @vicecapo8767 5 років тому

      Yep

  • @monkeydude3987
    @monkeydude3987 7 років тому +3

    I don't play WOT anymore (not much time where life is going) but I sure do enjoy these videos. Very detailed, understandable with some humor thrown in to keep things interesting. Keep up the great work! :-)

    • @ColonizerChan
      @ColonizerChan 7 років тому +2

      monkeydude3987 WG has honestly made some of the best and most informative documentaries on war vehicles of the 20th century

    • @monkeydude3987
      @monkeydude3987 7 років тому

      I agree completely! No knock on the games, just no time unfortunately. But I do have time to occasionally check out these videos, which are top notch. :-)

  • @ThellmanChan
    @ThellmanChan Рік тому

    Ayy that tank museum is like a 20 minute drive from me. I have seen that exact sherman with my own eyes

  • @abbelabbe7912
    @abbelabbe7912 5 років тому

    Omg iw been ther and seen that sherman with my own eyes in the Arsenal tank museum in sweden.
    Hade a great time going around and seing all the tanks manely the sherman and T34 if your ever thinking about going go.
    I know its not bowington but it defenetly wont dissapoint you many swedish tanks from the 30s-80s and many early tanks from WW1 and a bunsh of german WW2 tanks

  • @AFV85
    @AFV85 3 роки тому +1

    Pretty interesting seeing both sets of wheels on it seeing the lighting version buckled! Lol

  • @Jan_372
    @Jan_372 5 років тому +2

    Nice Het- JgdPz. 38 t. in the background

  • @CharlieNoodles
    @CharlieNoodles 3 роки тому +1

    So basically the firefly is holding its gun gangsta style

  • @explorer1968
    @explorer1968 Рік тому +1

    The British got a tank destroyer out of an American medium tank to meet Tiger I and Panther tanks in equal firing conditions on the battlefield.

  • @RobbyHouseIV
    @RobbyHouseIV 5 років тому +5

    Some of the wheels on the tank's double bougies looks like my dog's chew toy.

  • @DewyPornstar
    @DewyPornstar 7 років тому +1

    this tank is where engine design was put to the test

  • @shinkreytpuylap
    @shinkreytpuylap 3 роки тому

    In WoTB, the 17-Pounder thats used on the Sherman Firefly is the same on the TOG II

  • @KevTheImpaler
    @KevTheImpaler 5 років тому

    Read a book by David Render, who was a commander of Shermans in the war. He hated the multi-bank engine. iirc he thought they had a tendency to flood because not all the engines were the right way up. He had got used to the diesel engined variant, which pulled more strongly.

  • @ghiesalcedo634
    @ghiesalcedo634 3 роки тому +2

    Its so sad that in the game for some players its bad but in real life its a monster and truly feared too maybe thats why they painted the end of the gun

  • @wyominghorseman9172
    @wyominghorseman9172 5 років тому

    We just bought a 2018 RAM 2500 Cummins. The engine is 385 HP! Boy has technology come a long ways.

  • @robertquasdorf7078
    @robertquasdorf7078 7 років тому

    I wish you posted more often

  • @ReckerFidelWOLF
    @ReckerFidelWOLF 5 років тому

    My favorite tank of WW2

  • @SvenTviking
    @SvenTviking 3 роки тому +1

    There’s a vid of a Dutch guy who owns and runs a firefly. He reckons the Multibank gives the best acceleration of all the Shermans.

  • @DivineDawn
    @DivineDawn 7 років тому +1

    wheres the part 2? i cant seem to find it :S

  • @sampeacocke7432
    @sampeacocke7432 7 років тому +1

    What happened to the 2nd part of this reveiw - cannot find it anywhere

  • @bandwagon22
    @bandwagon22 5 років тому

    Swedes tested after the war Firefly comparing it to Panther and found Firefly poor in hilly, forest landscape, passing ditches/trenches etc.... and one of the reason was its extra weight compared to American Sherman mainstream versions.

  • @samtenthije2419
    @samtenthije2419 7 років тому +55

    I'm not very good at recognizing accents, but you sound a little Irish. Am I right?

    • @benhardsatrio8222
      @benhardsatrio8222 7 років тому +32

      Sam Ten Thije Congrats. You nailed it.

    • @xmanhoe
      @xmanhoe 6 років тому +15

      Benhard Satrio he lives in US but his Irish accent gets stronger when he spends time in Ireland ,ps he is also an officer in national guard

    • @steveboy7302
      @steveboy7302 5 років тому +1

      @a what the heck is samoan never heard of that before

    • @vicecapo8767
      @vicecapo8767 5 років тому +1

      Irish but tank commander for US I believe

    • @coaxill4059
      @coaxill4059 4 роки тому +2

      @@steveboy7302 American Samoa is a territory of the United States. They are part of the US but are not allowed to vote.

  • @raseli4066
    @raseli4066 7 років тому +1

    OMG!! I have bin ther in arsenaden!!!!!

  • @klaushimmler7308
    @klaushimmler7308 6 років тому

    Looks like he is wearing a sombrero at 16:30. 😂

  • @AForsakenSlayer
    @AForsakenSlayer 7 років тому

    Any chance of a inside the hatch for the T29?

  • @raseli4066
    @raseli4066 4 роки тому

    Why dident you make an episode on the museum's panzer 1? Or marder 2? They both have a good interior!!!!!

  • @CrazyPalidin57
    @CrazyPalidin57 6 років тому +40

    Jesus Christ, havent they ever heard of WD40, spray that track and get the rust off.

    • @wimb78
      @wimb78 5 років тому

      There are a lot of Fireflies here in Belgium especialy near Bastogne, all very good maintained (the outside 'cause all hatches are welded)

  • @AFV85
    @AFV85 2 роки тому

    I'm building a model of the 1c composite just now about the tool positions the hammer and the track tension tool whare were they stowed? I see the hammers mount is on the rear of this VC imbue noticed on 1Cs there not and some say not to put the stowage bin on the back of the 1C but I've seen plenty real old ww2 photos of it with it on both front and rear

  • @smogdanoff7053
    @smogdanoff7053 6 років тому

    When i saw the tank in the video i went like, Okay thats Arsenalen, since ive been there.

  • @whatchu_talkin_john_willis
    @whatchu_talkin_john_willis 5 років тому

    wonder how the multi bank compared to the twin 6-71 gm diesel power unit

  • @uncletammy5025
    @uncletammy5025 7 років тому +1

    Do the M-51 Super Sherman!

  • @TheStewieOne
    @TheStewieOne 4 роки тому

    I really want a Firefly.

  • @Mildcat743
    @Mildcat743 4 роки тому

    Could the Firefly be improved if it utilized the T23 turret?

  • @kirkfosher7501
    @kirkfosher7501 5 років тому +1

    Anyone else notice Sir David Fletcher photo (video?) Bombing in the last few minutes of this video lmfao

  • @cameronalexander359
    @cameronalexander359 5 років тому +1

    The Chrysler A57 multibank. Few engines have consumed so much to produce so little.

    • @Dalroi1
      @Dalroi1 5 років тому +2

      .. though as he pointed out in the video, it ended up being the most reliable of all the Sherman engine types after the Brits and Chrysler got together to iron out the problems. Losing some speed is tolerable if you gain a lot of reliability.

  • @kurtzarder5229
    @kurtzarder5229 5 років тому

    i liked the music... the first 300 times i heard it

  • @usswestvirginia1
    @usswestvirginia1 7 років тому

    I love the firefly for the fact it's the tank you command on call of Duty 3 when you kill the tiger, love the videos since I have always been a big tank enthusiasts even though I'm only 16 I love tanks and you have taught me so much about them and to that I say thank you, i have one request, can you please do the jagdtiger that big german tank destroyer, I love it cause it showed the true power of the German army even though it didn't change much the mechanically aspects of it and the sher size is awesome.

    • @kevin121649
      @kevin121649 7 років тому

      that is one of favorite games. back when call of duty was great. Not like the trash they turn out now.

    • @usswestvirginia1
      @usswestvirginia1 7 років тому

      kevin121649
      I know right I would love a call of Duty 3 remastered, I think the multiplayer and campaign was fun and entertain with cod haveing vehical and the story being one of the best it woukd probley make alot of people happy.

  • @Momo_Kawashima
    @Momo_Kawashima 3 роки тому +5

    "SIR! THE 17 POUNDER WON'T FIT!"
    "PUT IT IN SIDEWAYS"
    "THE RADIO WON'T FIT!"
    "CUT A HOLE AND HAVE IT STICK OUT THE BACK"
    "THE ENGINE'S NO GOOD!"
    "GET FIVE CAR ENGINES AND PUT THEM TOGETHER"

  • @omnipotank
    @omnipotank 7 років тому

    Comet tank next? :D

  • @andrewcox4386
    @andrewcox4386 7 років тому +7

    What happened yo the road wheels yo get them so distorted?

  • @svfilms2778
    @svfilms2778 3 роки тому

    Sherman firefly: im very powerful
    Maus: HA! Hold my beer

  • @f14tomcata88
    @f14tomcata88 4 роки тому +1

    So what your saying it’s a basic Sherman but with a better gun? You know and easy eight turret with the easy eight hull might have been a better pick but that wasn’t ready yet

  • @p47thunderbolt68
    @p47thunderbolt68 6 років тому

    Were there any 90mm Sherman's?

  • @tridentsix
    @tridentsix 3 роки тому

    It was about the AMMO. APDS ammo made the difference.

  • @kevin121649
    @kevin121649 7 років тому

    have you done a video on the valentine

  • @picklerix6162
    @picklerix6162 2 роки тому

    Oddball (Kelly’s Heroes) put a section of pipe on the end of his cannon so the Germans would think he had a Firefly 17 pounder.

  • @ChapBloke
    @ChapBloke 7 років тому +12

    Why was the A.30 inadequate?

    • @garethfairclough8715
      @garethfairclough8715 7 років тому +22

      Massive turret, with a lot less armour that was also a lot flatter.

    • @TheChieftainsHatch
      @TheChieftainsHatch 7 років тому +34

      Huger, less reliable, poorly laid out.

    • @ChapBloke
      @ChapBloke 7 років тому +2

      I see, I suppose my next question would be why were they unable to fix the problems with the A.30? Was it a case of the original Cromwell chassis being too difficult to work with, or they just knew better once they tried it with the Sherman, I suppose on that note, why didn't the Sherman get a completely new turret like the A. 30?

    • @ChapBloke
      @ChapBloke 7 років тому +2

      True, but then couldn't you argue that starting on a new design on a different tank from scratch, as opposed to simply continuing to work with something you're familiar with, would lead to more wasted time? I'm going to assume that Brighty and Witherage had drawn up plans for using the Sherman for a 17 pdr. mount before or during A.30 development.

    • @ohslowpoke4720
      @ohslowpoke4720 7 років тому +3

      If you want to be really pedantic the A.30 was actually shorter than the Firefly (and regular Sherman) by about half a foot! And a good portion of it's height was turret rather than hull which in theory should have made it easier to conceal.

  • @halfcantan1208
    @halfcantan1208 7 років тому

    Go Maith

  • @Mountain-Man-3000
    @Mountain-Man-3000 5 років тому

    TOG II turret?

  • @brailwolf
    @brailwolf Рік тому

    I have a major question for anyone and everyone. How do I remove the turret on the Sherman firefly ? And can I put a black powder charge like naval guns do to fire a round ? I need step by step instructions on turret removal.

  • @fredbcj
    @fredbcj 3 роки тому

    my grandads brother ,sgt Leslie Jackson was in the sherwood rangers yeomanry 5 troop sergent ,David Renders troop (david in his book referd to laslie jackson as arthur harris for whatever reasons) Leslies tank was a m4 sherman later a firefly called ARCHER , he joined in 1928 and was a profesional soldier , brish expeditionary force,palestine,north africa,el alemein ,d day dry landing day 1 , took leave as having spent only 6 months in england in 5 years abroad fighting , any info would be great , he was awarded a MM military medal in doulouns for nocking 5 at guns out

  • @clothar23
    @clothar23 7 років тому +16

    Ah the FireFly, can never have too many Sherman variants. Since ya know Shermans are best tanks.

    • @GlebVysok
      @GlebVysok 6 років тому +2

      clothar23 shermans werent the best tanks. Forward the shermans were the panzer 4 and the t-34s

    • @raiben4437
      @raiben4437 6 років тому +5

      There we're no best tanks of the war

    • @bradjohnson4787
      @bradjohnson4787 6 років тому +5

      What would you use as a measure to determine the best tank?

    • @KevinShihKevinFresh
      @KevinShihKevinFresh 6 років тому +7

      Well it did do many of the things that would qualify it for the best tank. It was easy to get out of, had pretty decent armor, was easy to mass produce, was reliable, and didn't break down that much. Depending on the variant, it had a decent or capable gun that was able to knock out tigers and panthers.

    • @beersmurff
      @beersmurff 5 років тому +1

      Best tank, depends on Country, doctrine and role. There is no single answer. It also depends on the situation you most often will get into, how the infantry is equipment and what you are fighting. The M4/PzIV/t-34 were a jack of all trades. Not excellent at any, but good in all. As a medium battle tank needs to be. You have tank destroyers, mobile artillery, heavy tanks, light tanks and so on for the rest. M4 fared poorly against the Panthers and in general the German tanks, but that's when you call in tank destroyers or move your force of attack to a less equipped part of the front or take your time and start pounding them with artillery and air support. US was in no hurry. So they didnt need a break through tank like the Germans used. Different doctrines.
      German infantry in 44 had a higher firepower per unit, than the US, so Germany focused their medium tank, the Panther more on tank vs tank fights, with infantry and assault guns providing enough fire power for the job, with out the Panther.
      Its all apples and oranges.

  • @dovidell
    @dovidell 4 роки тому +5

    Whilst Yad La-Shiryon (officially: The Armoured Corps Memorial Site and Museum at Latrun, central Israel ) has PLENTY of Sherman variants on show , it lacks the Firefly , which is somewhat disappointing

  • @christopherwang4392
    @christopherwang4392 5 років тому

    There are historical sources that confirmed that the Pershing's T26 turret could feasibly be fitted onto the Sherman's turret ring. Unconfirmed sources also said that Brigadier General McLeod Ross once suggested mounting the 17-pounder gun into the T26 turret. Neither proposals ever became a reality. Could the larger T26 turret armed with the 17-pounder gun be a better fit for the Sherman Firefly?

  • @USALibertarian
    @USALibertarian 2 роки тому

    If only the Brits had the Chieftain to inform them that The Firefly was both not feasible and unnecessary. ^^

  • @claytonmartinez2778
    @claytonmartinez2778 5 років тому +1

    Didn't the U.S have a Sherman that was similar to the Firefly called the easy 8 or was that something completely different?

    • @onur97able
      @onur97able 5 років тому +1

      No E8 was a different variant than firefly E8 has larger t66 tracks with Horizontal Volume Spring Suspension (HVSS) and was fittied with a improved version of the Hellcat's m1a1 76
      Firefly was pratically sherman mounting a 17 pounder and nothing more

    • @onur97able
      @onur97able 4 роки тому +1

      @John Cornell 17 pounder's combat performance is often overexagrated
      M1A1/2 l/55 and QF 17 pounder l/50 was comparible to kwk 42 7.5cm gun

  • @bobbiemanueldelapena4997
    @bobbiemanueldelapena4997 6 років тому

    Which is the most popular variant of the Sherman tank? The Easy Eight, The Jumbo, or the Firefly?

  • @tylerwilliams5622
    @tylerwilliams5622 6 років тому

    I would trust the firefly

  • @Edax_Royeaux
    @Edax_Royeaux 7 років тому +38

    I have question that's been bugging me, the Sherman III had a 6 pounder gun, the Firefly had a 17 pounder gun. So the 17 pounder shell is roughly 3 times as heavy right? Shouldn't it cause about 3 times the damage then? In-game, the 17 pounder gun only does about double the damage of the 6 pounder,. In the Napoleonic era, a 18 pounder cannon was far more accurate and damaging then a 6 pounder, but I don't know if that translates into modern tank shells.

    • @pixelbucket8884
      @pixelbucket8884 7 років тому +28

      Damage in the game is based on caliber, not weight. The 6 pounder is a 57mm. The 17 pounder is 76.3mm.

    • @Edax_Royeaux
      @Edax_Royeaux 7 років тому +1

      But isn't it housing almost 3 times the explosive?

    • @valtrmasteroftheleague2281
      @valtrmasteroftheleague2281 7 років тому +3

      ltflak there's also the point of balance. If it were to deal that much more damage, they'd have to kill the rate of fire to balance it out. either way works, but it seems to me that they want the more realistic RoF for the 17 pounder

    • @SutzStaffe89
      @SutzStaffe89 7 років тому +6

      I believe the Brits only used solid shot ammo, no explosive filler... If that was your question...

    • @Edax_Royeaux
      @Edax_Royeaux 7 років тому +3

      @Valtr, Yeah, it's just when I hear the tank has a awkward giant gun that fires something almost 3 times as heavy as the previous gun that can slay Tigers, I was expecting something that fired slower and dealt a lot more damage.

  • @chevellechris1
    @chevellechris1 7 років тому

    What the is the small flap on the side of the turret for?

    • @peterson7082
      @peterson7082 7 років тому +3

      Pistol port, ammunition port, etc.

    • @SvenTviking
      @SvenTviking 4 роки тому +1

      Nathan Peterson Or is it for ejecting shell cases?

  • @ZTChong
    @ZTChong 7 років тому

    where is this museum?

  • @matejgr.8879
    @matejgr.8879 7 років тому

    do a TIGER 2.....

  • @InnerSilence123
    @InnerSilence123 6 років тому

    so in the movie "fury" the sherman tank actually didnt have the machinegun seat?

  • @danr5105
    @danr5105 5 років тому

    Any idea on what and when the US started using "Christie type" torsion bar suspension in their tanks? The ":record" states that the military liked the Christie type suspension but found the man (Christie) too hard to deal with. He went on to sell his ideas around the world.

    • @calvingreene90
      @calvingreene90 4 роки тому +1

      Christie suspension uses coil springs not torsion bars.

  • @Han-fz8qc
    @Han-fz8qc 5 років тому

    You would not believe your eyes, if 10million fireflys

  • @toddreaker2298
    @toddreaker2298 4 роки тому +7

    “Perfectly good gun of the Sherman”
    🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

  • @HealthySkepticism1775
    @HealthySkepticism1775 7 років тому

    Is this a good tank at tier 6?
    Console player here.
    big fan of the M4 and Sherman Jumbo.
    Considering getting this baby

    • @DJxSAM23
      @DJxSAM23 7 років тому

      I love it, better than it american counterpart for my eyes ! No aromor but a great gun ;)
      By the way, go get your chieftain, since you got it on console, lucky console peasant! :)

    • @HealthySkepticism1775
      @HealthySkepticism1775 7 років тому +1

      DJxSAM23
      Lol i almost always play tier 5 to 7, to me those games are the most dynamic and fun. At tier 9 and 10 I feel like we are all just dumb lumpering juggernauts bouncing rounds like tennis balls and bleeding silver.

    • @HealthySkepticism1775
      @HealthySkepticism1775 7 років тому

      DJxSAM23
      Funny thing is I've been a member of the P.C. Master race since the first Half Life mods that made CounterStrike but oddly enough I feel like WoT is just better on console.

    • @DJxSAM23
      @DJxSAM23 7 років тому

      I can see your point of view and you're right, dynamic is there at this tier. Have fun on the battlefield!

    • @DJxSAM23
      @DJxSAM23 7 років тому

      With the graphics on Console vs PC I can see why! I would go on Console, only if you keep your stat to be transfered, but it not going to happened. I'm just to far away to start a new account, got 4 to 5 years played on PC! :(

  • @alanrainey5022
    @alanrainey5022 2 роки тому +1

    Aussie Connection?

  • @vic4345
    @vic4345 7 років тому

    Chrysler now fca

  • @jari2018
    @jari2018 Рік тому

    my father seems to be in this video -if this were filmed in december ,he died 31 dec.

  • @davewolfy2906
    @davewolfy2906 5 років тому

    Nearly missed the noise!

  • @christophertaylor1153
    @christophertaylor1153 5 років тому

    Tiger tanks required more time in production then allied tanks.