Memphis Wrestling: Tom Renesto - The ORIGINAL Heel Promoter

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  • Опубліковано 4 тра 2012
  • September 14, 1985
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  • @The86lenny
    @The86lenny 4 роки тому +11

    In storyline Tom is 100% right ! Lawler can’t sit on the Southern title to protect his world title match ! This is one the greatest and most believable angles I’ve ever seen !!

    • @ronaldshank7589
      @ronaldshank7589 3 роки тому +5

      Seems to me that I've heard that, if any Title isn't defended within a 30 day period, then the person holding said Title is to be stripped of the Title. Typical Lawler Politics going on here, with Lance Russell and Eddie Marlin as Lawler's yes-men. Totally pathetic!!!

    • @yomamasofat77
      @yomamasofat77 Місяць тому +2

      Made Lawler look like a coward

    • @corybowman9583
      @corybowman9583 Місяць тому

      ​@ronaldshank7589 ok 🤡

  • @ronvorpe4048
    @ronvorpe4048 4 роки тому +11

    Renesto trying to run a profitable business and Lawler being a insubordinate employee.Renesto having to deal with good ol boy favortism.

  • @scottmcallister6600
    @scottmcallister6600 2 роки тому +15

    Thank you Mr. Renesto, sir. You are 100% correct, as Lawyer was obviously a coward and a shameful and disgusting display by Eddie Marlin!

    • @corybowman9583
      @corybowman9583 Місяць тому

      Ok 🤡

    • @IHAT3ART
      @IHAT3ART 22 дні тому

      He should have reached right across and slapped his face!... But it would be like hitting a little child haha, wrestling was so good then. We are all fans, and we should just show love even if we disagree or feel someone is doing too much... UA-cam is for people to put they're perspective on things that you'd never get to hear if not for these videos, we're all watching for the love of guys that did it for us, NOT money

  • @razzledingle
    @razzledingle 8 років тому +33

    This is a great angle, beautifully-acted. These guys in Memphis really knew what they were doing when it comes to studio wrestling.

    • @DoubleAgents
      @DoubleAgents 8 років тому +1

      +razzledingle They sure hot shotted this angle in a hurry.

    • @MrPotatoesLatkie
      @MrPotatoesLatkie 4 роки тому

      @@DoubleAgents Do you mean that this angle only lasted a week or so?

    • @edmondcamp2878
      @edmondcamp2878 3 роки тому +2

      Tom Renesto and Joe Hamilton was literally the best tag team ever bar none. They had it all they could wrestle they could brawl they were good on the mic they could get the crowd stirred up. They were both good “worker’s”. It’s ashamed that the original two Assassins never will get the recognition they deserve because there’s no video footage of them.

  • @trevclark9840
    @trevclark9840 2 роки тому +7

    This was great. Everyone played their part perfectly.

  • @deanw0rmer
    @deanw0rmer 11 років тому +9

    Good stuff. Memphis Wrestljng was way ahead of its time

  • @rickeyt9210
    @rickeyt9210 7 років тому +10

    Renesto all the way baby!

  • @raymondwilliams3686
    @raymondwilliams3686 6 років тому +13

    This Memphis Wrestling was great

  • @shawnmorrisundanism6341
    @shawnmorrisundanism6341 4 роки тому +7

    He is not really a heel he's just a strong promoter I'd say

  • @CatsClaw44
    @CatsClaw44 Місяць тому +2

    This is the first time I have seen this, Tom Renesto is a fantastic talker and a great character. This is a great angle. He even buried Johnny Paycheck on the way out! 😂

  • @stevenzack1497
    @stevenzack1497 6 років тому +6

    The ability to be articulate made the Renesto character so great.

  • @chrisbridges71
    @chrisbridges71 11 років тому +18

    They were trying to make Tom Renesto the bad guy but if this were reality, he would have been right in what he was saying.

    • @nellbowie7986
      @nellbowie7986 4 роки тому +2

      Lawler shoulda fired his ass then. Don't cross the boss

    • @deanw0rmer
      @deanw0rmer 3 роки тому +4

      @@nellbowie7986 yep. And what was Jerry Jarrett trying to pull there? I don’t have any authority ? Lol

    • @GetBenched2010
      @GetBenched2010 3 роки тому

      He wasn't right because the Stomper wasn't putting anything on the line to hasten a title match. Lawler had no obligation to put his title on the line until after he wrestled Flair.

    • @CatsClaw44
      @CatsClaw44 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@GetBenched2010The Stomper was the #1 contender he didn't have to put anything up.

  • @TheCancerkilla
    @TheCancerkilla 7 років тому +4

    Such an effective and simple story. No cartoon characters, just good booking. And as a perfect example of long term storytelling, it's a progression of what Terry Funk said in '81 about Lawler having everyone on his side...

  • @mrbobevans
    @mrbobevans 5 років тому +11

    Renesto looks like a mini version of Gorilla Monsoon. Lance looks like Marty Lagina. And Jerry Lawler looks like Tom Jurrich,

    • @jerfacekilla
      @jerfacekilla 2 місяці тому +1

      Yep. When I first saw the thumbnail for the video I asked myself "Why is Gorilla Monsoon on Memphis Wrestling?".

    • @CatsClaw44
      @CatsClaw44 Місяць тому

      You're right! 😄

  • @markc75
    @markc75 12 років тому +8

    Loved this. Thanks for posting. i saw some of this years ago on a really poor quality tape so thanks for uploading in good quality. Renesto was great here... very subtle, soft spoken (at first), and making a lot of sense!

  • @christopheracosta7658
    @christopheracosta7658 6 років тому +5

    The editing is good. How Tom was able to change suits during the interview is amazing.

  • @MrTsuruta1000
    @MrTsuruta1000 6 років тому +10

    I remember Tom Renesto having the same dialogue skills on the mic when he was the Assassin #1.

    • @jonrife8226
      @jonrife8226 3 роки тому +1

      The 1st assassin was jody Hamilton i thought. Tom renesto became part of tag team the assassins 5 years after Hamilton started assassin gimmick

    • @MrTsuruta1000
      @MrTsuruta1000 3 роки тому

      @@jonrife8226 No.
      Tom Renesto and Jody Hamilton were the original Assassins since the 60s.
      Renesto retired when he chose to work with Ann Gunkel's "All South Championship Wrestling" promotions in the early 70s.
      In fact Renesto was "Assassin #1" and for many years afterwards Hamilton still called himself "Assassin #2" even without a partner.

    • @edmondcamp2878
      @edmondcamp2878 Рік тому +1

      @@jonrife8226Tom and Jody started teaming as the Assassins on December 1 1961 in Atlanta. Joe had been wrestling as the Assassin for a few weeks before but Tom had been working in Mid Atlantic as the the great Bolo but Tom was the captain of the Assassins and taught Jody how to do interviews and later Tom became the Assassin No. 1 and Joe as Assassin No. 2.

  • @IHAT3ART
    @IHAT3ART 22 дні тому

    Thankyou so much for uploading these videos... It just brings me to such a happy place

  • @robmcclendon6223
    @robmcclendon6223 6 років тому +6

    Awesome angle! They don't do these like that anymore.

    • @gl6996
      @gl6996 5 років тому +1

      To work this angle without a single punch or a bodyslam...

  • @Xontar02
    @Xontar02 5 років тому +6

    Tom Renesto makes a lot of good points. He's definitely not afraid of Jerry Lawler.

  • @froggy556
    @froggy556 8 років тому +20

    Tom Renesto was 100% right! But when Lawler owns a piece of the company, what can you do?

    • @ronaldshank7589
      @ronaldshank7589 5 років тому +2

      Typical Jerry Lawler... putting himself ahead of the company! He was this company's "Crown Jewel", and, since he owned part of the company, he could do whatever he wanted to do. I side with Mr. Renesto on this one! Jerry truly was afraid of losing the Southern Heavyweight Championship, because, without it, he couldn't face Ric Flair, and that apparently ate at him so fiercely, that I wonder if it was always that way with him? He always seemed to play by his own rules...which is apparently why he flip-flopped so much between being a face and a heel. I've said it before, and I'll say it again:The Powers-that-be were always playing up to Jerry Lawler, and giving him whatever he wanted, because they knew that if they didn't, he'd jump ship on them, just like he did in the early 1990s, by going to the WWF, & becoming one of Vince's boys! He was only loyal as long as he got what he wanted, and as long as the money was good! I have respect for his wrestling abilities, but, in cases such as these, I have no respect for his way of doing things!

  • @zt1053
    @zt1053 4 роки тому +3

    Almost the whole summer of 85 Tom Renesto played the role Eddie Marlin usually did.

  • @tomfurlong6742
    @tomfurlong6742 8 років тому +7

    I grew up watching the Assassin's and never saw Tom Renesto without a mask except for a brief period at the end of his tenure in Atlanta (1973-1974 era)- this clip is like all his other promo's: spoken softly at first but would increase in intensity as he went along; that style was picked up by his partner Assassin #2 (Jody Hamilton). Great back and forth with no script! Classic line delivered classically: "I didn't get fired- I Quit!"

    • @yardlet6
      @yardlet6 7 років тому +1

      See Hamilton as the Flame in Continental. Shooting a picture of Bob Armstrong.

    • @mbp7060
      @mbp7060 5 років тому +2

      You've got them switched. Hamilton was ALWAYS Assassin #1. When they wrestled as the Bolos, Renesto was #1 (The Great Bolo) and Hamilton #2 (The Mighty Bolo) according to Jody's book. As the Bolos, Renesto mentored Jody to develop his mic skills and made Jody the mouthpiece while he just stood next to him looking menacing.

    • @nicoleknight9412
      @nicoleknight9412 3 роки тому

      @@yardlet6 Then the Flame got suspended, then came back as El Fuego (the "Fire " or "Flame" in Spanish).
      Armstrong himself lost a Loser Leaves Town match, then came back as the Bullet, Armstrong's nickname.
      RIP to both.

    • @edmondcamp2878
      @edmondcamp2878 2 роки тому +1

      @@mbp7060 When the Assassins wrestled in Atlanta Tom and Joe spent equal time on the mic and you’re right originally Joe was Assassin # 1 but from 1968-1972. in the Georgia territory Tom was Assassin # 1 and Joe was Assassin # 2. Whatever the case Tom was always the captain of the team.
      I think you may have Tom mixed up with h the later versions of the Assassins Jody Hamilton and Roger Colley or Hercules Hernandez and one or two other guys.

    • @mbp7060
      @mbp7060 2 роки тому +1

      @@edmondcamp2878 You may well be right. At any rate, they were outstanding.

  • @bestexas966
    @bestexas966 3 роки тому +3

    Lawler's wearing a pink hoodie with no hood. Rivaled only by Renesto's color changing suit.

  • @clintsavagejr
    @clintsavagejr 9 років тому +15

    Tom Renesto's mood suit. Brown=calm. Navy Blue=frustrated.

  • @85futureshock
    @85futureshock 2 роки тому +2

    This is a interesting angle but not well executed in hindsight. Tom is supposed to come off as a heel promoter but comes off as well spoken and reasonable and Lawler, the babyface, comes off as dodging the Stomper by not wanting to put the title on the line. It kinda made Lawler look bad as you can hear the fans actually grumbling at the announcement of a non-title match and I can see why they dropped it not too long after.

  • @StarCadet
    @StarCadet 6 років тому +15

    If you treat it as real, and you believe it is real, then you will convince the fans it is real. This totally adlibbed argument seems like a completely believable argument. And it draws fans into it better than any scripted WWE crap.

    • @stevenfortunato2965
      @stevenfortunato2965 5 років тому +1

      William Yount well said. That’s exactly how I try to explain the difference in these guys working angles and today’s cookie cut workers. This is how it’s done.

    • @MrTsuruta1000
      @MrTsuruta1000 5 років тому +1

      This is how you sold wrestling, no merchandise, not even necessarily PPV's, wrestling was sold with wrestlers, not actors, musicians, or any other people outside of the industry. And all you got was a printed program, and concessions.

  • @bamafan62
    @bamafan62 9 років тому +6

    Lawler was Memphis wrestling, plain and simple. I lived in memphis at that time and he kept the mid south coliseum packed every monday night. Lawler was more than a wrestler in memphis, he was one of the big deals behind the scenes as well. when he left, memphis wrestling died

  • @MrPotatoesLatkie
    @MrPotatoesLatkie Рік тому +1

    Tom would have made for a good semi-heel commissioner to foil the local babyface. I think his position here was a good way to use him. I could see three commissioners with Tom as the heel, a face, and a face who often has to reluctantly agree with Tom because he's a subtle heel.

  • @chrisbridges655
    @chrisbridges655 Місяць тому

    Lance with a priceless look on his face when Renesto said his new job would be booking the Stomper.

  • @Supadave7
    @Supadave7 10 років тому +2

    Mane I was like 8 years old. Classic. Look at Dave Brown.

  • @theflorgeormix
    @theflorgeormix 2 роки тому +3

    The company built Jerry up. Artistry, ability and part owner. It's all made up. Lawler was always pretty much going to be the title holder. Villains brought in from all over to build him. But Renesto is classic. I wish there was more footage of him. Former Assassin. You r trying to intimidate me. You r trying to intimidate this audience. Very eloquent. Then they pull every dirty trick in the book. Hilarious

  • @ren17x50
    @ren17x50 4 роки тому +2

    Intimated is the word of the day

  • @keithbperrin9633
    @keithbperrin9633 4 роки тому +2

    that was awesome

  • @mmangum4444
    @mmangum4444 11 років тому +4

    Yeah!! You're right, it's the way they do it, just pay attention to the dialogue. They are sticking to the storyline, yes, but the ad-lib makes it seem so real! That's what's missing today!

  • @Lurvy1963
    @Lurvy1963 11 років тому +5

    Wasn't Tom Renesto's suit brown at the beginning of this segment? Then when Jerry Lawler starts to have his say during the argument, Renesto's suit turned navy blue. Bad colorization from the camera?

  • @SuperHog32
    @SuperHog32 11 років тому +9

    this classic Memphis stuff is so much better than anything WWE or TNA can offer today.

  • @spinalthepirate7207
    @spinalthepirate7207 6 років тому +5

    Tom Renesto...1 of the assassins with Jody hamilton

    • @MrTsuruta1000
      @MrTsuruta1000 6 років тому +3

      xander_20 woodward He was also the wrestling coordinator in the wrestling scene between Hulk Hogan and Sylvester Stallone in the movie Rocky III.

    • @nicoleknight9412
      @nicoleknight9412 3 роки тому +2

      @@MrTsuruta1000 Never knew that. Thanks!

  • @scanpacker
    @scanpacker 12 років тому +1

    "The King of Wrestling" always working his story line. Arguably the best ever at promotion; certainly more World Titles reigns, in different promotions than any other wrestler in history. Not the longest title reigns; but met all comers around the globe. Go King!!!!!

  • @greedyd5524
    @greedyd5524 8 років тому +6

    Tom was right..

  • @reapingthewhirlwind
    @reapingthewhirlwind 7 років тому +6

    Lance always plays to the crowd. Always looking over to the crowd to show his disgust.

  • @gristleizer
    @gristleizer 12 років тому +5

    Lawler...what a coward!

  • @DoubleAgents
    @DoubleAgents 8 років тому +2

    Anyone else notice how much Jerry Jarrett looks like Ricky Morton?

  • @zt1053
    @zt1053 9 років тому +4

    Tom Renesto was on the side of the faces before this happened

    • @doctorspencer9001
      @doctorspencer9001 9 років тому +1

      Jerry was going to be the hero and man there either way.

    • @nicoleknight9412
      @nicoleknight9412 3 роки тому +1

      The Assassins turned face toward the end of their association together.

  • @TheCancerkilla
    @TheCancerkilla 4 роки тому +1

    Logic= heel heat.

  • @Lurvy1963
    @Lurvy1963 11 років тому +2

    Original heel promoter. We had someone like that on All Star Wrestling in Vancouver, BC, Canada during the early 1980s. His name was Al Tomko or Master Sargent Tomko as he called himself. He did double duty as a promoter and as a wrestler. He was a motor mouth, a coward, an imbecile, he didn't wrestle very well (he relied on kicks, punches, no wrestling holds, someone helping him outside the ring) and would use a hidden object in his tights to win a match. He was often quite tiresome to watch.

  • @GetBenched2010
    @GetBenched2010 3 роки тому +2

    What is lost in all of this is Lawler was not obligated to put his title on the line at that time and Stomper wasn't putting anything up to get this match made. (Usually challengers had to put up a purse of some kind in angles like this.) Money vs Title.
    Since Stomper did no such thing, Lawler had no obligation to put his belt on the line until after he wrestled Flair.

  • @MrPotatoesLatkie
    @MrPotatoesLatkie 9 років тому +17

    Was this the same Tom Renesto that was the second Assassin?

    • @froggy556
      @froggy556 8 років тому +1

      +MrPotatoesLatkie Yes!

    • @tomfurlong6742
      @tomfurlong6742 8 років тому +3

      +MrPotatoesLatkie Actually he was the original Assassin; Jody Hamilton was the Assassin #2 and Renesto's long time partner

    • @PsychomachineryEBM
      @PsychomachineryEBM 6 років тому +1

      Well, in my notes Tom Renesto was originally the Assassin 2 when he debuted with the gimmick in Georgia along Hamilton being the #1 and THE Assassin, in 1961. If i'm right, Renesto didn't become #1 until 1965 while in Japan.

    • @mbp7060
      @mbp7060 5 років тому +1

      @@PsychomachineryEBM Renesto was never #1. The promoter who designated Hamilton #1 and Renesto #2 would sometimes switch their designations around on the programs (supposedly to confuse the fans) but they never switched. In the Carolinas Tom was a superstar wrestling as the masked Bolo before being teamed with Hamilton in Atlanta as an Assassin. When they went to the Carolinas as a team they wrestled as the Bolos. Since Renesto was the original Bolo, he essentially became Bolo #1 and Hamilton Bolo #2. I say essentially because Renesto went by the Great Bolo and Hamilton as the Mighty Bolo so technically they were both originals.

    • @PsychomachineryEBM
      @PsychomachineryEBM 5 років тому +1

      @@mbp7060 As I noted, I referred to Renesto's work in Japan.

  • @nicoleknight9412
    @nicoleknight9412 3 роки тому +1

    Tom Renesto was one of the original Assassins, along with Joe Hamilton. Joe's brother was Larry Hamilton, aka the Missouri Mauler.
    It was supposed to be Jody, not Joe. My apologies.

    • @edmondcamp2878
      @edmondcamp2878 Рік тому +1

      Speaking of f Jody Hamilton in his book it says on the cover Assassin man behind the mask by Joe Hamilton and Tom always referred to him as Joe. Also when he wrestled for Ann Gunkel commentator Ed Capral always called him Joe but he was aka has Jody

  • @chrishollister80
    @chrishollister80 4 роки тому +4

    Tom had a very valid point and Lawler was an overrated jerk who tried to politick his way around matches. Renesto was doing his job, Lawler was trying to avoid doing the job.

  • @nellbowie7986
    @nellbowie7986 6 років тому +5

    Jerry Jarrett passing the buck?

  • @jewggerz
    @jewggerz 5 років тому +7

    haha, what's with the ethics of the people in Memphis? Renesto is exactly right. Put up the belt or you're a coward, dummy. It's not very complicated. Floyd Mayweather logic from Lawler. They've got these people popping for a non-title stipulation. What is with these people? That's like customers at Chipotle thanking the manager for not honoring their buy one get one burrito coupon that expired on today's date, saying that that meant midnight last night.

    • @rs232il
      @rs232il 5 років тому +2

      Lawler had them all intimidated like Tom Renesto said.

    • @ronaldshank7589
      @ronaldshank7589 3 роки тому +2

      You know what I say? Hooray for Tom Renesto!!! He stood his ground, and, in the process, exposed just what a bunch of puppets that Lance Russell and Eddie Marlin were, in this case. I believe in having respect for people...until they show that they're too afraid of losing their top star! Jerry Lawler had Lance Russell and Eddie Marlin wrapped around his little finger. Remember, also, that Lawler was too insecure to put up his Southern Heavyweight Championship Belt against "SuperStar"Bill Dundee, too. That happened back in, I believe, 1985, and it was for the same reason! He needed that Championship Belt, in order to face "The Nature Boy" Ric Flair. If he would've lost that Championship Belt, he'd have nothing to fall back on. Tom Renesto and "Superstar" Bill Dundee were both right about Jerry "The King" Lawler-He was too insecure to take a chance! Even if he had lost the Belt to either The Stomper, or to "Superstar" Bill Dundee, he could've won it back in time for his match with "The Nature Boy" Ric Flair. Here, and in talks with "Superstar" Bill Dundee, Lawler exposed himself as 1: Insecure, & 2:As someone that thought more of himself, than of the Wrestling Organization that he wrestled for. It's as if he thought he owned all of this particular Organization. The more's the pity.

  • @Rockzilla404
    @Rockzilla404 3 місяці тому

    The Assassin!!👍👍

  • @ricotter74
    @ricotter74 6 років тому +1

    I love revisiting these glory days of wrestling.
    And was lucky enough to live close enuff to get to go on Monday night's.
    And Saturday's .... Woooooo mercy daddy!!
    They shut Memphis down to watch wrestling for 90 mins or something like that.

  • @MrPotatoesLatkie
    @MrPotatoesLatkie 2 місяці тому

    "What kind of money will that draw?"

  • @arkansoul
    @arkansoul 11 років тому +2

    Exactly. But in Memphis...

  • @yardlet6
    @yardlet6 8 років тому +3

    Tom you were a former wrestler of a tough tag team! Punch him out!

  • @hchs98
    @hchs98 12 років тому +3

    That is how you do an angle. Pay attention WWE and TNA! Somtimes I believe the acronyms for these companies today are World Women's Entertainment and Total Non Action.

  • @Aaron-by3ke
    @Aaron-by3ke Місяць тому

    I'm on Tom Renesto's side here. Why is a legend such as Jerry "The King" Lawler afraid of The Mongolian Stomper? Give the fans what they want, King. I see nothing heelish about Renesto's business sense. This isn't Bob Geigel or Mr. McMahon trying to anger his top baby face.
    Renesto does look like a thin Gorilla Monsoon. Sounds like him, too.

  • @philipdefibaugh5683
    @philipdefibaugh5683 2 місяці тому

    Renesto kinda looks like a thinner Gorilla Monsoon.

  • @mcdonoghrahloh459
    @mcdonoghrahloh459 4 роки тому +1

    This isn't a work is it?

  • @corybowman9583
    @corybowman9583 Місяць тому

    The Renesto marks are angry in the comments. It's hilarious. 😅😂

  • @stevieraygeary1
    @stevieraygeary1 3 роки тому +1

    The stopper got his ass whipped in The Louisville Gardens by a fan and The King!!!

  • @litehouse6
    @litehouse6 11 років тому +2

    This is some great stuff. Vince blows.

  • @cheerwhiner7829
    @cheerwhiner7829 2 роки тому

    He DOES look like G Mo (as the Body would say)… 😉

  • @markc75
    @markc75 12 років тому +1

    Boo! ;)

  • @derekgarcia1030
    @derekgarcia1030 5 років тому +1

    Lance Russell was such a tool

    • @donalddunlap6347
      @donalddunlap6347 4 роки тому +4

      That's a legend you are talking about fuck face

  • @snackcakeman
    @snackcakeman 6 років тому +1

    This act goes on far too long

  • @madbrowniac7871
    @madbrowniac7871 4 місяці тому

    Oh My Goodness! Tom and Jerry...😂😉🎤🐱🐭👔👞👞🎼🎸🎥📺🤼‍♂️B.W.

  • @IHAT3ART
    @IHAT3ART 22 дні тому

    Thankyou so much for uploading these videos... It just brings me to such a happy place