@@MrsSoapAndClay I had a weird dream about milk soaps last night. It was centred around milk and salt (which technically saponified soap is) mixing together forming butter and cheese. Then the thoughts started about bar hardness and how hard some cheese can be......... Strange, wacky, and off the wall. My brain does some weird gymnastics when I am asleep...but my best ideas often come at that time too! 😄
I have been thinking about the speckles. I see in the comments that people are thinking scorched saponified milk fat. That is the most likely answer. I do have a suggestion as to how to possibly eliminate them. I do a lot of milk soaps and sometimes my lye solution gets THICK. I take my stick blender to the lye solution to break up those little bits right before pouring it into the oils. It has helped with the consistency and minimized the white spots. Or there may be some soap gremlins in the shop.
So, all my soaps have milk. Goat, Cows, coconut milk and I always include clays & colloidal oatmeal. I have those same speckles in my soaps. Always thought it was the oatmeal causing the speckles but now I’m thinking it might be the milk. Thanks Mrs S&C. I love the milk series! Never thought I’d see this content on your channel. Pleasantly surprised!
I make full goat milk soaps and absolutely love them, as do my customers. I cut 2 days after pouring, but they are not hard like yours was...I expect the soap formulation is key there.
I typically use use the heat transfer method with a 1:1 lye solution and add milk mixed in my liquid oils after the hard oils are melted. Sometimes, I'll add milk at emulsion and then stir in additives to help keep a really fluid batter if I need time to work with it.
I do (fresh off the farm)goats milk soap, going on 13 years. I use to freeze and do 100% milk but now I do Milk in oil method, absolutely no difference in the end bar; beautiful rich creamy lather. I haven’t had those specks in any of my soaps🤔 that’s interesting. I also make coconut milk and coconut cream soap, no specks.
Howdy from Deep East Tx! 1st let me say I love to binge watch & learn from your videos so thank you for that! Two years ago I moved to the country on some farmland which is smack dead in the middle of cattle ranchers therefore have easy access to all animal milks/fats. I started my soap making journey 8 mths ago so I’m still fairly new compared to most. I tried ALL the suggestions out on the web but still continued to get the speckles in my soap. So….My deep dive experimentation kicked in full force to eliminate the speckles and the scorching of the milk thing. As not to get too lengthy/wordy, I’ll try to be direct. So first & foremost I do freeze my fresh GM in ice cube form but I no longer put them directly into SHyd. I reduce my water ratio lye solution (usually 50%). I heat my gm on the side slowly & then emulsify it because it separates. Continue with all steps of oils/butters. Add in kClay (emulsify). Add in your gm & emulsify! (This should be the 50% reduction you didn’t put in lye solution). Then add lye to emulsion. Presto….smooth batter, smooth soap! I really hope I conveyed that correctly! Maybe you could do an experiment/video to see how it works for you! I believe the key is to whip/emulsify before & after adding gm to batter. Hope this works for you! Dawn
Hello! Roxana from Romania here and recently discovered your channel... SOOOO much stuff to learn!!! My point is, this year I've started making artisanal soap (it's still considered niche here) and decided to use only frozen goat milk for the lye solution and the final result is amazing. By the way, here is way cheaper raw cow milk
I love goats milk. A friend of mine has access to fresh goat’s milk and when she gets some she brings it over and we make soap with it. The lather, the hand feel, it’s all exceptional. I’ve make it by replacing all of the liquid with the goats milk and half of the liquid amount with goats milk. My favorite for creaminess is definitely a full replacement. My guess with your specks are milk solids that burned… like when you make browned butter.
City/suburb girl here and the Vitamin D milk is the only cows milk I've ever heard about. The jug with the red cap lol. Never knew there was a "raw" cows milk. And yes as a kid we did the farm field trip and milked a cow, got fresh apple cider, and took home a pumpkin. That milk then went to the grocery store with the red cap hah lol 😆
I was wondering if you have compared powdered milk added later to the batter to liquid milk use as a water substitute. Is there a proper way to use milk in soap recipes? Not sure on any of this any comment to help educate would be appreciated. Thanks. 😊
So I’ve only tried one goat milk soap. It was powder rehydrated and in the lye solution I used aloe Vera juice. I know, weird but I wanted to see. I forgot you’re not supposed to cpop milk soaps and I put it in my oven for probably half an hour before I realized and took it out. It had gone from a thick setting up consistency to fluid sloshing around when I moved it. Really weird. I also used extra batter from the batch to pipe roses and this was not put in the oven but the batter was really soft and didn’t set up well. I’m thinking it’s from mixing with the aloe Vera. It’s been months and the bars are so soft still. Not lye heavy at all but I can mush it with my fingers. I’ve been making soap dough with them lol. Very mild soothing bar of soap with a great bubble though. I think I’m going to try a cows milk soap after watching this and this time I won’t use aloe Vera juice in it too. lol
so those sediments both in today's video and yesterdays could that be a actual "soap" from the milkfat reacting to the lye ? also would adding lactaid to the milk give you lactic acid since it breaks down the lactose?
@@MrsSoapAndClay cool figure since you had raw prob had a bunch of cream/milkfat. haven't used lactaid myself just know some in my family had to use it and remembered it when you started talking about breaking down lactose LOL oh and all my soaps in my store are goatsmilk so if you can find the ones I sent you you can see what the lather is like LOL its from powder sometimes I just put it in the oils others I set aside some water and rehydrate it before putting it in the batter.
Lactaid would split the lactose sugar into glucose and galactose from a disaccharide into 2 monosaccharides. I think they would probably scorch much like the lactose.
I think the speckles are fat that turned into soap in the lye solution before it was added to the oils. I make goatmilk soap and have speckles often. Especially if the lye milk solution sits for a while before being added to the oils.
I break all the rules...my milk content is caculated into the recipe, not in the lye, not a water substitute,(let me edit my fisrt post). NOT milk in oil method, and everyone i contact just argues with me...
I do the milk in oil method with my goat milk soap.... brilliant feeling bars but it has to be a whole milk (full fat)....I found the semi or skimmed don't yield a bar that feels as nice as full fat. Xx
@@JustNanJustSoap I am not arguing with anyone....I am just sharing my experience. I do like you do...I add my milk direct to the oils. I am actually agreeing with you. But I was explaining that during experiments I found a full fat has a nicer feel than a skimmed when compared xx
I don’t see an argument here. Charlotte has been in the community for a pretty long time, and I’ve never seen them argue with anyone, because they don’t seem to be that type of person and also because the rules of this community don’t allow for that. I understand you may be apprehensive to comment on soap stuff because the soapmaking world CAN be argumentative and toxic, but we don’t do that here. I’d suggest rereading!
Curdling is definitely not what we’re looking at with the flecks; the curdling would have happened in the lye solution, and milks curds will break down and blend in a soap batter. Good thought, though!
Did I put speckles in this soap or not? HEEEEELLLLPPPP!
I think the speckles are probably coming from the natural sugars in whatever milk you use.xx
Is it possible that the FO is making the speckles?
Scorched sugars...?
@@MrsSoapAndClay I had a weird dream about milk soaps last night. It was centred around milk and salt (which technically saponified soap is) mixing together forming butter and cheese. Then the thoughts started about bar hardness and how hard some cheese can be......... Strange, wacky, and off the wall. My brain does some weird gymnastics when I am asleep...but my best ideas often come at that time too! 😄
I did not see you put anything in the soap. I've made several milk soaps and never seen that happen.
I have been thinking about the speckles. I see in the comments that people are thinking scorched saponified milk fat. That is the most likely answer. I do have a suggestion as to how to possibly eliminate them. I do a lot of milk soaps and sometimes my lye solution gets THICK. I take my stick blender to the lye solution to break up those little bits right before pouring it into the oils. It has helped with the consistency and minimized the white spots. Or there may be some soap gremlins in the shop.
So, all my soaps have milk. Goat, Cows, coconut milk and I always include clays & colloidal oatmeal. I have those same speckles in my soaps. Always thought it was the oatmeal causing the speckles but now I’m thinking it might be the milk. Thanks Mrs S&C. I love the milk series! Never thought I’d see this content on your channel. Pleasantly surprised!
I make full goat milk soaps and absolutely love them, as do my customers. I cut 2 days after pouring, but they are not hard like yours was...I expect the soap formulation is key there.
I typically use use the heat transfer method with a 1:1 lye solution and add milk mixed in my liquid oils after the hard oils are melted.
Sometimes, I'll add milk at emulsion and then stir in additives to help keep a really fluid batter if I need time to work with it.
I do (fresh off the farm)goats milk soap, going on 13 years.
I use to freeze and do 100% milk but now I do Milk in oil method, absolutely no difference in the end bar; beautiful rich creamy lather.
I haven’t had those specks in any of my soaps🤔 that’s interesting.
I also make coconut milk and coconut cream soap, no specks.
I have used (frozen) goat’s milk in my soaps and I truly like the ‘feel’ and scent of this soap.
Howdy from Deep East Tx! 1st let me say I love to binge watch & learn from your videos so thank you for that! Two years ago I moved to the country on some farmland which is smack dead in the middle of cattle ranchers therefore have easy access to all animal milks/fats. I started my soap making journey 8 mths ago so I’m still fairly new compared to most. I tried ALL the suggestions out on the web but still continued to get the speckles in my soap. So….My deep dive experimentation kicked in full force to eliminate the speckles and the scorching of the milk thing. As not to get too lengthy/wordy, I’ll try to be direct. So first & foremost I do freeze my fresh GM in ice cube form but I no longer put them directly into SHyd. I reduce my water ratio lye solution (usually 50%). I heat my gm on the side slowly & then emulsify it because it separates. Continue with all steps of oils/butters. Add in kClay (emulsify). Add in your gm & emulsify! (This should be the 50% reduction you didn’t put in lye solution). Then add lye to emulsion. Presto….smooth batter, smooth soap! I really hope I conveyed that correctly! Maybe you could do an experiment/video to see how it works for you! I believe the key is to whip/emulsify before & after adding gm to batter. Hope this works for you! Dawn
Hello! Roxana from Romania here and recently discovered your channel... SOOOO much stuff to learn!!! My point is, this year I've started making artisanal soap (it's still considered niche here) and decided to use only frozen goat milk for the lye solution and the final result is amazing. By the way, here is way cheaper raw cow milk
You deserve so many more subscribers
I love using raw milk in my soaps and I use 100% replacement with frozen milk.
I love goats milk. A friend of mine has access to fresh goat’s milk and when she gets some she brings it over and we make soap with it. The lather, the hand feel, it’s all exceptional. I’ve make it by replacing all of the liquid with the goats milk and half of the liquid amount with goats milk. My favorite for creaminess is definitely a full replacement.
My guess with your specks are milk solids that burned… like when you make browned butter.
City/suburb girl here and the Vitamin D milk is the only cows milk I've ever heard about. The jug with the red cap lol. Never knew there was a "raw" cows milk. And yes as a kid we did the farm field trip and milked a cow, got fresh apple cider, and took home a pumpkin. That milk then went to the grocery store with the red cap hah lol 😆
I was wondering if you have compared powdered milk added later to the batter to liquid milk use as a water substitute. Is there a proper way to use milk in soap recipes? Not sure on any of this any comment to help educate would be appreciated. Thanks. 😊
For me when I don’t keep my milk/lye solution under 100 deg I’ll get curdling…I’m guessing that’s the spots you’re seeing
Oooh interesting. Thanks!
My two favorite shampoo bars have milk in them. One is goat's milk, the other one has coconut milk
The spots are the unsaponifiable milk fat. It's fine ... extra moisturizing.
So I’ve only tried one goat milk soap. It was powder rehydrated and in the lye solution I used aloe Vera juice. I know, weird but I wanted to see. I forgot you’re not supposed to cpop milk soaps and I put it in my oven for probably half an hour before I realized and took it out. It had gone from a thick setting up consistency to fluid sloshing around when I moved it. Really weird. I also used extra batter from the batch to pipe roses and this was not put in the oven but the batter was really soft and didn’t set up well. I’m thinking it’s from mixing with the aloe Vera. It’s been months and the bars are so soft still. Not lye heavy at all but I can mush it with my fingers. I’ve been making soap dough with them lol. Very mild soothing bar of soap with a great bubble though. I think I’m going to try a cows milk soap after watching this and this time I won’t use aloe Vera juice in it too. lol
so those sediments both in today's video and yesterdays could that be a actual "soap" from the milkfat reacting to the lye ? also would adding lactaid to the milk give you lactic acid since it breaks down the lactose?
Hey! Yup most of the sediment is the saponified milkfats. To the lactaid, I’m not sure but it sounds like something worth exploring!
@@MrsSoapAndClay cool figure since you had raw prob had a bunch of cream/milkfat. haven't used lactaid myself just know some in my family had to use it and remembered it when you started talking about breaking down lactose LOL oh and all my soaps in my store are goatsmilk so if you can find the ones I sent you you can see what the lather is like LOL its from powder sometimes I just put it in the oils others I set aside some water and rehydrate it before putting it in the batter.
Lactaid would split the lactose sugar into glucose and galactose from a disaccharide into 2 monosaccharides. I think they would probably scorch much like the lactose.
I think the speckles are fat that turned into soap in the lye solution before it was added to the oils. I make goatmilk soap and have speckles often. Especially if the lye milk solution sits for a while before being added to the oils.
I’m an oat milk fan personally. 😊
It’s delicious!
I break all the rules...my milk content is caculated into the recipe, not in the lye, not a water substitute,(let me edit my fisrt post). NOT milk in oil method, and everyone i contact just argues with me...
I think milk in oils is a great way to incorporate!
I do the milk in oil method with my goat milk soap.... brilliant feeling bars but it has to be a whole milk (full fat)....I found the semi or skimmed don't yield a bar that feels as nice as full fat. Xx
And here we go.....as I mentioned, argumentative...sigh
@@JustNanJustSoap I am not arguing with anyone....I am just sharing my experience. I do like you do...I add my milk direct to the oils. I am actually agreeing with you. But I was explaining that during experiments I found a full fat has a nicer feel than a skimmed when compared xx
I don’t see an argument here. Charlotte has been in the community for a pretty long time, and I’ve never seen them argue with anyone, because they don’t seem to be that type of person and also because the rules of this community don’t allow for that. I understand you may be apprehensive to comment on soap stuff because the soapmaking world CAN be argumentative and toxic, but we don’t do that here. I’d suggest rereading!
It appears that the milk started to curdle during the process
Curdling is definitely not what we’re looking at with the flecks; the curdling would have happened in the lye solution, and milks curds will break down and blend in a soap batter. Good thought, though!