James Marsters talks about his worst scene in Buffy the Vampire Slayer
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- Опубліковано 17 жов 2022
- James Marsters (Spike) talked about his worst scene in #buffythevampireslayer. Video shot at his panel at the #STV4, #buffy con organized by Clouds Con.
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I think it was done partly because JW hated the fact that fans loved Spike. James made Spike endearing. If JW wanted people to dislike Spike, he shouldn’t have hired an actor with such, depth, charm, and wonderful bone structure.
He wanted to kill him at the end of the season but Dru and Spike performance was so good that the end was changed and Spike survived and betrayed Dru and Angelus. The season was going to end with Angelus killing Spike and running away with Dru from Sunnydale.
That’s exactly the same as what happened with Damon Salvatore- the creators didn’t like how much fans loved him (because somerhalder is the most talented on the show) because they wanted to use him as a villain for longer, so they admitted they intentionally wrote the scene where drunk Damon tries to force a kiss on Elena and then rips her brothers head off.
They did the same thing to Ian somerhalder Damon Salvatore, he was the ultimate talent most liked but the creators admitted they wanted to use him as a villain for longer, so intentionally wrote the scene of drunk forced kiss/rip brothers head off scene in hopes it would get fans to stop loving him when morality is not what makes a character loved-it’s the strength of the writing and acting of the character. They had already written him too human for us to not see the humanity in the terrible acts, irresponsibly portraying such themes
The only thing that Joss was incredibly insistent on was that Tara get shot.
@@bobblehead8923 That really has nothing to do with the comment I made.
James has always said that scene was the hardest for him to do and the fact that he doesn't even watch movies with scenes like that tells how difficult it must have been for him to do as an actor but most actors will say doing those kind of scenes are always the worst
I get that too no normal person wants to treat a woman that way even if it is fake
@@rolandofgilead43 and yet men in movies/tv get the same treatment and women have no trouble doing it
@@Guardian582 I wonder if Eliza thinks the same about a similar scene her character does with Xander?
@@vulkanofnocturne i doubt it
@@Guardian582literally what are you talking about
I love James Marsters. He’s an honourable man, which is brilliant❤️
James is one of the sweetest, kindest people I know and he's talked about this before. How hard it was to do that scene. Seeing the person he really is, that's easy to understand. He's not 'method', per se, he always shows that genuine vulnerability in his characters. He's also funny as hell and that translates well, too. Coming from the perspective of Spike, he was out of his mind. I thought that was kind of groundbreaking, seeing him in that scenario, because who among us has not loved so hard that it made us a little crazy? Of course assault is never ok, and I honestly don't think he would have gone through with it. Something in him would have put on the brakes, but it really shows how maddening love can make us. How it can make things you would never do seem possible. How it twists and warps our rational.
As stated in Buffy "love makes you do the wack"
He's talked about this one a number of times. He said it drove him to therapy.
Can't help but like this guy.
"an act of vulnerability and courage from the writers every week" Nicely said. Makes sense because the writing felt so real.
What makes me bitter about that scene is the way their “affection” for one another unfolded to begin with. Both Buffy and Spike fought for control to the point of beating each other into submission before having sex. So to Spike, in that moment it was nothing short of the “love” making they had experienced before. The only difference is Buffy became emotional, instead of passionate, and there was a fine line, that was crossed. But he ultimately only cared about her consent. Which is why he went out of his soulless way to create a replica of her, to hold his desires for the real buffy at bay. Because even without a soul, when it came to Buffy, he still had somewhat of a conscience.
It to this day is probably the most difficult scene in any show to watch that I've ever scene. It was masterful, respectful, but ultimately uncomfortable. And it was a discomfort Spike and Buffy fans alike felt to the core. Spike was visibly disturbed by his actions, and possibly cor the first time - Buffy experienced true fear and vulnerability.
And during the scene James you can see it in his face how uncomfortable he is
And the way it was described was just bad story telling. Whedon essentially said what would push Spike into getting a soul for himself, how bad can things get. And Whedon was quoted: "Well he can't kill Buffy. He can't rape Buffy. But he can almost rape her so let's go with that."
Praise to Charisma for sticking her neck out and calling that guy out, and props to Sarah and everyone else who came out in support. Terrific cast and terrific writers, that got dealt a bad hand of having to put up with a boss who put them in uncomfortable situations because he gets off on the shocking the viewers. I don't know who that female writer was the James referenced but to put that kind of personal story out there and have it used like that? Words can't do justice.
And that scene was written by a female writer, based on her own personal similar experience, except SHE was Spike in that situation, trying to force herself on a man who was stronger than her, who rejected her.
He says that too
@@n0namesowhatblerp362 oops, I stopped the video to reply after the first answer, then forgot to continue.
@@JakkFrost1 I get it, i do that too. opsie :)
And?
Thats so cool honestly, not that it happened irl but the fact that she wanted to include this dark and powerful moment of her life into the show makes it 10 times better
Good for you James. I'm glad he said that. I don't like those kind of scenes either.
And your nature shines through its why we love you so much 🥰
I was JUST commenting on another video on how even when I rewatched it the other day it was uncomfortable. So upsetting. They shot it overhead making it even more unsettling
It’s a credit to the fandom, and James that we are able to have such interesting discussions about such a disturbing scene. Only thing missing is Sarah’s voice (which of course she is not obligated to provide in any case)
The scene was incredible. Even though it’s not pleasant to watch. And I like where it ultimately took James’ character.
He is a great actor and great guy.
I did know that the rap scene had affected James so much ! And that injured his neck as well. That to say the impact of certain roles on the actors. I love James he is so talented ♥️
U can deeply tell it did.cuz he was also tearing up whike filming it.
@@SlasherHorrorMovies1 yes I thought the same. rewatching the scene as an adult, his face is completely blank, as if he was trying to distance himself from the world for a moment because he was scared. I hope Sarah helped him because I would have, I would have told him that everything was ok and that it was all fake and that he shouldn't feel guilty about it
when i watched the bath room scene in Buffy watching Buffy cry it made me cry too
Paradoxically, it's one of my favourite scenes in the show just for his character development. It's ironically also the most horrific scary moment in a show full of vampires demons and monsters because its so human and vicious and possible to happen etc.
Also, I think it was very good way to show he was still a soulless animal and as much as he wanted to change he could only be what he is. And also a good way to remind the audience who spent past 4 seasons romanticising him what he really is underneath it all.
And the fact that that event makes him want to get a soul to try and be worthy of her love makes it even more powerful, especially in S7 and the finale. What a character.
I do happily admit that Mr. Marsters is showing darn-true manhood in the extreme: condemning things like rape- I mean, there's some real hope for his character as a man; an actor, as he truly hates what his character of William Pratt was driven to do; in part due to his character of Will Pratt's pride, and in part due to that character's extremely dysfunctional highly sexual relationship with a certain Miss Summers, who was his character's *lover* at the time.
One thing I do however agree with about that kind of event is that by far the most sexual assaults happen between lovers- however evil such a behavior is; and there's good arguments that she herself did exactly the same kind of felony against her own moral character regarding his character in their fictional characters' relationship: their relationship as fictional characters was rooted in lust, not love; so you better believe that they'd be downright evil- and that detail comes out of the staff of the show's remarks in the DVD commentaries!
I love your reading of the Dresdin Files series of audio books on disc, just incase anyone needs another reason to admire you. Your voice acting skills are every bit as powerful as your on screen presence, I just thought others should recognize you for it too. Only the best of luck in all things and never forget how amazing you are.
I had NO idea that the bathroom scene was written by one of the women writers or that this scene was one of the worsts for him to act, but it makes sense though
this man... i can't... i love this man and my heart will always have a little space for him. I just want to hug him and say it's allright in this moment. As a woman i really appreciate it and i just dont know how it would feel being in that side of the table, just... im sorry James, i hope you are ok now
Riley instantly regrets doing a panel with James lol love it
I knew he was going to choose that scene.
What I learned from this is that Mark (Riley) is on a panel for a show he hasn't watched
a lot of actors don’t watch the stuff they’re in lol
Michael J. Fox very seldom watches any of the shows or movies he's been in. I've heard the only time he watches TV is for news and sports.
I remember watching this episode and my grandma just happened to be visiting. She was reading the newspaper but I think she had just put it down and this scene came on. It was soooo awkward!! I didn't know what to say so I just kept staring at the screen during the commercials and hoping she wouldn't ask any questions!
Me, understanding both languages of this video. Good thing.
Bueno amigo! Lo ceiento por America no hablo Español mas. Yo quiero de hablo Español.
I know all girls loved Spike on Buffy, but it was NOT out ot character for his character who was at his core, evil and selfish.
I think they should of had buffy and spike having a daughter at some point make her look like buffy but dressed like spike with his jacket lol
The most fucked up part about that scene is that it didn’t go with his personality at that point at all.
It’s like they just wanted to throw that type of scene in there to make a statement, but didn’t have anywhere else to put it.
In many ways I think it did go with his character - he'd done similar things to Buffy in the past in fact, but she'd always given in after 10-20 seconds of it. The difference on that day is that she really wasn't feeling it and when he pushed past her "no", which he'd done many times before, it went to a very different place to where it had gone on previous occasions.
Before even watching the video there's not a doubt in my mind what it's gonna be talking about
I feel like Spike redeemed himself. Huge character development and fantastic acting. If anyone else was playing Spike, he would not have been able to come back from that. Soul or no soul. The writing is very good, but without James Marsters acting, it's hard to imagine it possibly going well at all. I'll never like that scene, I never want to watch that scene. I'm watching through buffy with my mother and we both hated that scene. But Spike is still a favourite character. Moreso now, learning how human his actor is.
That was awesome ty 😊
Much as everyone loved Buffy & Angel as a "couple" I always felt Spike was the one who really loved her, despite this scene. He didnt know how to connect to her as a normal man. He had been a monster for a long time and she touched his heart and it scared him. Horrible as a rape is, it made sense to me. In the end, he proved he loved her without condition.
it's been a long time since i last saw that scene so honestly i do not even remember that scene.
It’s what made him decide to chase his soul and his redemption. Horrible, powerful, wonderfully acted scene.
@@Miss_Distress I do remember how he choose to get his soul back that surprised me. Yet buffy never loved him he was a sex toy pretty much to her. Sarah Michelle geller I read not that long ago watched the entire series with her kids my question is wouldn't it feel really dirty seeing your mom like that? Even if it is just tv and nothing is shown
@@rolandofgilead43 no… why would it feel “dirty”? She was acting, and she should be proud of it. She did a damn good job and was part of a show that was influential on a whole generation. Yes, there are uncomfortable moments in the show, and they serve to further character development. There is no reason SMG or anyone should be embarrassed about being part of the show or having people view it.
@@Miss_Distress that's not what I mean at all if I had kids and they were little I wouldn't give them buffy to watch and if I were in it for example the episode where all you see pretty much is her fucking Riley that's not one I'd want my kids to see if they were little. No kid wants to see their parents do that on screen or in real life that's what I meant by dirty. I dunno how old her kids are to be fair. My nephew is 11 and there is plenty of tv shows and movies he shouldn't watch yet. Buffy I really have no idea of he's seen it yet.
ALWAYS THOUGHT HE WAS ENGLISH!!!! AMAZING ACTOR!!!
James was born and raised in Texas. Good ol' boy, and I mean that in a good way.
Thanks!!!!
I have known this scene existed because my friend told me before I decided to watch it so I was prepared. Okay, yes, the scene is terrible. I understood the purpose in the story and I decided to accept that it's a part of Spike's story. I get why some people were mad at the creators at the choice or hated Spike after that scene, it's their way to cope.
I only got mad after I found out that it traumatised the actors, James (obviously) and Sarah (even if I have never heard her talking about it). That is FUCKED. They SHOULDN'T have FORCED IT UPON THEM. The only reason to me why that scene shouldn't have existed is because the actors (or even if just one) didn't want to do it AND THAT'S IT.
Every time James talks about it, I get so nervous and uncomfortable because I feel so so so sorry it happened to him. Also it's, in my opinion, hypocrisy because there are consent issues all over the series and they were played as comedic.
Edit: I really like Riley today.
I'm sorry, Marc, I'm just kidding sksk I never hate your character.
There are episodes on Buddy I’ve only watched once, and Seeing Red is one of this episodes.
Same. That one and "The Body" I've only watched once.
I've heard Joss Whedon wrote The Body shortly after his mother passed away. He was still dealing with grief at the time.
I have issues with that scene too. I can understand the need for therapy. I have therapy myself because of my past issues and getting back to me. I am happy again but it took a long time.
hope you are ok now
The craziest part of the story is that it was based on a women Sa a man/ So basically if buffy had done that to spike...
I always knew that James hated this scene...how tough it was for him. Listening to the context really puts perspective on it. I really didn't like the scene at all, but there was no mistake it was powerful. Spike was a character I loved to hate on Buffy... But, my emotion toward Spike was so strong because James was so good at his portrayal.. Spike added a strong complexity to the series that they needed.
Subtítulos en español please!!!!
I still think the show could have done without that. I know Spike was unstable at the time. I know he wasn't exactly the good guy at the time. But I think what should have been done instead is as follows.
You can see him get angry at Warren and his two pails when Dawn tells him about those three using cameras and stuff to spy and eavesdrop. Should have had him team up with Buffy and deal with them. Instead of what he tried.
If you think THAT scene is unconfortable, please don't watch the movie "I Spit On Your Grave". That's some really fucked up shit to put on film.
He played a character who was a mass murderer, and yet that scene was the one that sent him into therapy???
LOOL
Right lol we don’t care about watching characters torture and kill but that scene is what made certain people hate Spike… like wtf? Then question if anyone still liked him afterwards.. if you thought he was cool while committing murders but AR takes the cake makes no sense. That’s why I can’t hold it against his character… duh he was a soulless demon.. why are y’all shocked…I still rooted for him regardless cause he showed us how complex we all are.. we are never just black or white.. we all got some grey area
I don't want to exaggerate, but rape is worse than any death. I myself would rather die 100 times than be raped just once, if you asked any woman or man who has been raped how it feels they would tell you that it leaves a wound inside so big that it cannot be filled even with the greatest happiness that a person can have.
the feeling it leaves you with is cruel, exhausting, you can't think, you can't cry, you can't get angry, you feel robbed of your own person and your own humanity, I don't think James felt good performing the scene even though it was just an "attempted rape". and he was on the other side, imagine being on the side of the one who suffers it. You would never want to. You would rather die
I figured that had been hard for him...
They should have left that scene out. Lots of shows or movies could leave a scene or 2 out.
I appreciate that that scene was difficult for him, but as a woman who has thwarted two rape attempts I love that he was professional enough to give us a cinematic example of a woman fulfilling her ethical obligation to defend herself and doing it successfully. I respect his position, and I like seeing real life on screen.
Spike superó a la misma protagonista Buffy. El era adorable, encantador y humano, mientras Buffy era una perr@
When a show wants to denounce sexual assaults, this is exactly how it should be : uncomfortable.
And like it was the case here, actors and all the team of the show should hate those moments.
Unlike Game of Thrones that I despise. Showing a lot of awfull hardcore rape scenes, and not in order to denounce but to please pervert
The worst is that the writers (all men of course) thought all those horrible scenes were "hot".
Seriously assh*les?! Come on!!!
And for those who don't know, I assure you the screenwhriters of GOT said they were very proud of this scene in particular : a brother raping his sister in front of a dead body (their father by the way, if I remember correctly) and they said it was the hottest scene of the show... I was horrifying to read that, how could it be... and everyone still enjoying such a show...
Reading horrible stuff in the original books is a thing, putting it in filming is another level when you take a pervert way to show it instead of chosing to denounce such behaviors...
And for the scene with the rape between brother/sister, apparently in the book it was consented, they chose to make it even worse...
Yeah, I can't stand GOT, even if I barely see anyone thinking the way I do about this show.
For an opposite exemple
Millenium/The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, in both sweedish and american versions : it was a highly painfull rape scene to watch, and it was on purpose to denounce, and you feel that nothing was done to arouse the audience...
Anyway, James seems to be a very kind and honest man, makes me appreciate him even more 🥰
You are not going to like what I am about to say but it's way more complex than that. Spoilers for game of thrones but I don't think you care.
First of all, citation needed where you saw that the creators said it was the hottest scene in the show. I have NEVER seen that ANYWHERE. The creators made very poor decision but I have never heard that they film a rape scene because they thought it was hot and to please the pervert. I am not saying it's impossible but as I said "citation needed".
second, the sister you are talking about is Cersei Lannister and she is one of the most despicable person in the story. In fact, she pretty much cause a civil war WHICH causes things like plundering, murdering AND rapes all over her own country simply because she wants to stay in power. She releases all of those atrocities on dozens of thousands of innocent people and she couldn't care less. She only disliked sexual harassment when she is the victim but as long as it's other people suffering, she don't mind if the war-crime goes on. Contrarly to your description, she is not an innocent victim FAR from it.
So the sympathy for her character was very limited when it happened.
The same way in the Show Oz (1997-2003), at one point two rapist (Guenzel and Wintrop) are imprisoned. And quickly they become Prags (prison bitch), Guenzel is espically depsical because he BRAGS about the rape he commited and he only disliked it when he was the victim but he love being the perpetrator. So my sympathy for him being raped is kind of nonexistent.
Well it's not that different when it comes to Cersei.
Third, In the show Cersei as despicable as she is in the first 3 seasons she is not as horrible as her book counterpart because the creators wanted her to be more sympathetic (make no mistake, she is still a character written to be hated in the show just a bit more tragic). And it would have been difficult for the writers to continue on this tragic interpretation of the character Cersei if she was consensually having sex in front of the dead body of her son.
Now if I were the producer and I wanted Cersei to be sympathetic I would have just removed the sex scene alltogether which would be much more efficient.
I am not there to say that Got was perfect the way it handled rape BUT I thought it would be good for you to have the context. Now if indeed the producer film that scene because they thought it was hot... that is something else but for that I need to have some sources.
Good man
Playwriting as therapy for the most atrocious things one has ever done in one's life: you recast your worst conduct as a domestic monster- which if you study vampire literature: that's what they are: domestic monsters... things like how Dracula kind of became Buffy's mom's new boyfriend and then he snuck into her daughter's bedroom and the like: NOT GOOD BEHAVIOR, Count, not at all! *That* is the kind of aristocrat that we so despise: the type to engage in things like attempted teen rape of your crush's child- that kind of truly Hellish conduct that so many of them went for, sadly!
*That* kind of misbehavior, in the real world, is the exact sort that leads to the deliberate mass-murder of all those in the upper-classes; and, with the exception of the harm to the character formation of those who did the slaughters: rightly so.
What 'bathroom' scene was he referring to?
The rape scene in S6 i believe. (Seeing Red is it? Its been a while i cant remember which ep specifically)
yeah it’s seeing red. I don’t remember the season. I remember seeing it as a kid. Didn’t really make sense at the time. Now as a grown man it makes a whole lotta sense.
That other guy looks like Riley.
It is.
i would like to know what the girl is saying
the same thing as james and marc. she’s a translator.
@@moonstone___ oh okay i get it now
Took me over 3 minutes to realise that the bloke sitting next to James Marsters (Spike) was Marc Blucas (Riley Finn).
Took me nearly 20 years to do a total 180 and reverse my opinion/attitude towards Riley. I kick myself for resenting him so much and not seeing a good thing when I had it. Feel like Buffy probably pondered the same (even if it was for only a second…….okay maybe 2).
Yh I get that. Those scenes are fucked
If an actor says they are not comfortable with something, contractual obligations or not, you respect that. You don't be a dick.
When I was studying acting, a teacher once told us if you're not comfortable with doing something, they'll find someone to replace you that is. So sometimes if you want to make a career, you just need to suck it up. It is a brutal business. Now, in this case obviously they wouldn't have replaced Spike at that point of the show but it still stands, many actors probably have this mentality of either you do it or you're out of a job.
Ok assault is awful but whats Buffy and Xander said to Spike and the way they humiliated him was degrading, and Buffy hit him the whole time, she was violent to him, she never respect Spike until season 7.
it is not easy to be a translator..
I totally respect him. I read his spin on the Buffy/Spike that spike should have been killed of, NOT made the romantic hero of all things. There was another guy, who was on a soap, many many years ago. and them made him (a rapist🙈) an anti hero, but his character for some reason, became so popular. He quit when his contract was up. He DID come back, a few years later, 🤷♀️.he said he still had to be a horrible person. They did the redemption story arc, to an extent. But that was a different time. People need to understand this. We really saw things through a different lens. I’m not saying in ANY WAY that we thought raping, or attempted rape was ok. But we we still were in a mindset of bad boy isn’t REALLY bad, if he has a good woman to help him. 🎉
Are you talking about Todd Manning???
Zamasu? That you?
masters is still nr.1 the only one who has not ruined dragonball evolution.
I wonder if James forgot that he's an actor, which means when he acts it's not real. He didn't try to rape Sarah Michelle Gellar, his fictional charater did some PG13 milquetoast version of the beginning of a sexual assault on another fictional character, and it was NOT to glorify sexual violence, so he can't even complain about the connotations.
if you had a little empathy you would understand that even in fiction a rape is a rape. Even just imagining it is hard to digest. yes, he is an actor and I believe that the therapy served precisely to make him understand this, that there is a difference, but at the same time any person with a bit of empathy and humanity would feel wrong even if he is pretending because it would mean mime something you feel so disgusted by that you don't even want to imagine it
@@xValRavn It must be such a pain not to be able to differentiate between fiction and reality. My heart aches for the poor actors who pretend to shoot other people, they must have PTSD for the rest of their lives.
Empathy, lol, what an idiot.
@@DrKrapulaxAre you okay? Your comments are a bit weird?
@@Katiewithdaffodils I'm certainly more okay than you are, considering these childish disses were already so last year in 2018...
@@DrKrapulax Every person is different. Maybe there is someone who is okay with it, but for James Marsters here it's very traumatising for him. Why are you invalidating his experiences, the fuck? If someone who is very uncomfy with a rape scene in writing form, do you force them to continue reading? "It's only fiction, it's okay." NO. You let them drop the book. There are people who like reading it because it's fiction and don't condone it in real life and that's okay. As long as you can differentiate it with reality.
HERE, he had to do it, even if it's only a pretense, but he had to act it convincingly. He had to say the dialogues. He had to do it upon Sarah, who he knows personally in real life. He had to do it again and again in every angle they told them to.
There is something called pro-fiction. And you, my friend, got it fucking backwards. No people who believe in pro-fiction will invalidate people's squick or dislikes. Fuck off and get that thing called empathy.
I dont like this scene too because its not Spike
its almost like spike was EVIL OR SOMETHING
It was important to remind the viewers that Spike was still a soulless demon AND it served as a good jumping point for him to do something about it.
@@gungho1284 exactly. 100% of why I truly believe it was written and had to happen. something very drastic had to have happened to get Spike to wake up and actually try to fix himself, so-to-speak.
Yeah, I thought that scene was just ghastly. I thought the scene was unnecessary and downgrading for the whole theme of the actual show. Buffy was supposed to be a strong character--and
I was proud that the show almost never went there--woman gets raped (or nearly) woman in peril. So I think it was pretty ghastly ---and ordinary--that a woman writer came up with this for
the storyline. Until then Buffy had nearly been raped by Hyenya-Zander in Season 1, And then Spike. It's disappointing that the woman writer had to go to that same-old as-everyone-else kind of scene. Just my thoughts.
You are aware that:
1-Buffy was a show about all the horrors young people (especially young women) face, and
2-many, many young women face exactly the types of assaults shown on Buffy?
What you're not grasping is that in both of the examples you cited, *Buffy won*. And for me, a survivor of sexual assault, watching Buffy win was positive for me.
The way the attacks against Buffy were shown wasn't titillating or exploitative & they were relevant to the story. So, seriously, what's your problem?
@@mariaaguadoball3407 I'm sorry if I offended you. I didn't mean to. Major kudos to you for being a survivor!
The worst time in his career I don't think so the dragonball movie was the worst time in his career such a gifted actor and a beloved childhood show both ruined by the monstrosity of that movie
bad movie vs attempted rape scene, hmm, I think he chose the correct worst time.
@@Trikeboy2 yeah attempted rape that bit in buff was not really that bad I take it you have never see the hills have eyes 1 and 2 or I spit on your grave even hollyokes had a worse rape seen in it compared to buff I don't condone rape its horrible but that was some soft shit to what other shows and films have done
@@simo-rn2tw It is asking HIS PERSONAL worst acting experience in his career. He wasn't in The Hills Have Eyes 1 and 2, I Spit On Your Grave or Hollyoaks so none of those even matter. What are you not understanding?
@@Trikeboy2 oh fucking hell it was a joke a reference to a bad choice he made and you come in with your Mr know it all did the rape thing in buff hurt his career no I know he didn't like it and didn't want to do it but the biggest mistake he made was to sign on to that shit show they say was dragonball I think that hurt him more and was a bad idea for him to do as I know he is a talented actor who spent time going though all the dragonball mitral to get piccolo right and do right by the fans only to completely told no this is how we are going to do it he did the movie for the fans not for the money he even apologise to the fans for the fuck up of the character. Did the attempted rape hurt his career no was it bad thing for him to do as it is a horrible thing you would do to another person yes so white Knight get back on your horse and trot off
@@Trikeboy2sorry was a bit harsh but look at my comment again 3 people got what I was saying they know what I ment by it if you have not seen that film go watch it or go and look at the interview he has do were he says it was bad I think it was at a comicon he felt bad for the fans that sat and watch that film think they was getting a good dragonball movie that would stay true to the original and it is why toriyama came out of retirement to do a film as he was sickened by what they did to his dragonball
XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD (hahahahaha)
The whole thing was horrible so was angel they ruined vampire movie’s with this show
Still better than that Twilight crap.
Well, Spike was trying to violate his girlfriend- *if* you could call them boyfriend and girlfriend; I have my doubts: that relationship, as her character's "stepdad" Mr. R. Giles describes it in one of the books attributed to him, was extremely dysfunctional and self-destructive in its nature. Theirs was a relationship rooted in lust, not love at all; so no wonder they'd stoop as characters to things like sexual assault, Mr. Marsters... your fellow was messed up in the head at the time, and it does stand to reason that if a soul is malfunctioning, you can expect the insanity of evil.
Still, and I stress this point: *any* sexual scenes are to be condemned, and if they happen, they're to be fully clothed; for the sake of the virtue of the actors in question- yet the actions are to be called evil in the extreme!
However, that show did aid me in some ways as a young adult; and as revolted as I am about the conduct of the characters, I am grateful for the good I was able to extract from it in terms of perceptions of God, for however short of a time it all lasted before it was exterminated within me- for ironically the kind of acting up that happened therein, both in the spiritual realm of useless prayer to entities (the most civil thing I can say about the spiritual practices of the characters), and the physical intimacy, which by the way was flat-out *disgusting*. Those two evils: the animal self and the demonic self, as C. S. Lewis described them in a radio broadcast during WW2, are what is wrong with an awful lot of things today!
The worst time is wearing a mask still and making your ears go so ugly.
Why does it matter to you if he wears a mask? His voice was clear and audible. So, why do you care? Why do you feel the need to insult him when he's done nothing to harm you in any way?
@@AGDinCA I don't insult him, giving my opinion. And about the ears... That's a fact. I care, because people wearing mask are the same people who keeping this nonsense active and forcing others to wear it too. And I can't believe people still wear it in America.
@@Jongen. Most people don’t. And no place makes you except in doctors’ offices. I still carry one with me in my bag when I am at the airport but only to have if the people next to me are wearing masks. Then I wear mine out of respect, since they could be immunocompromised.
@@Jongen. the ear thing is an opinion lol. he's allowed to wear a mask, just like the actor that plays Riley was allowed to not wear one. maybe James was feeling a little sick and didn't want to spread it. you don't know the full reason why. masks weren't only made for COVID. in fact, in some countries like Japan, its very normal to wear a mask if you're a little sick and out in public. its respectable.
@@HelloXrancidkitteh Yes in Japan, it's normal so don't make it normal in other countries too. Yeah those ears are so wonderful, so beautiful says everyone. Don't know the reason why, don't care, it's stupid, like he's a dog or something. Vaccinated and still wearing it, it's a joke. But he's allowed to wear it of course, but I am allowed to say or think something about it.