Conversation: Analyzing the Venezuela-Guyana Maritime Boundary Dispute

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  • Stratfor Editor Lynn Wise and Latin America Analyst Reggie Thompson discuss Venezuela's maritime boundary dispute with Guyana and the domestic politics behind it.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 194

  • @vaun5020
    @vaun5020 6 років тому +8

    They're not getting a blade of
    our grass🇬🇾

    • @nativekhanbrian5211
      @nativekhanbrian5211 3 роки тому +1

      N who gonna protect d grass we got 😅☠️🐊⚰️🇬🇾

  • @harry6555
    @harry6555 5 років тому +13

    guyana needs to build a wall and let venezuela pay

  • @dancehallfuhlife741
    @dancehallfuhlife741 8 років тому +20

    you ant getting a blade of grass

  • @jamessmithjr.2222
    @jamessmithjr.2222 5 років тому +9

    Similar border issues with Guyana and Suriname. Thank the Brits for leaving a mess!

  • @JasonCWaite
    @JasonCWaite 9 років тому +25

    Stop saying "Venezuela" & start saying Maduro.

  • @denisfredericks7349
    @denisfredericks7349 5 років тому +10

    Venezuela is digging a hole to bery themselves

  • @user-bj7jc5hd1f
    @user-bj7jc5hd1f 8 місяців тому +2

    If anyone is right about anything, it's that Essequibo is in Guyana

  • @MrPuldas
    @MrPuldas 5 років тому +9

    Why can’t India come and help Guyana and buy that oil rather then depend on saudi

  • @Lend2011
    @Lend2011 8 років тому +8

    1899 arbitration decision was validly questioned or disputed by Venezuela on 1962 in United Nations. You need to take your documents or proof and show them to United Nations. International Court is not need. Geneva agreement implies a legal procedure through United Nations. For over 5 decades Guyana has not been able to show such proofs, and defeat to Venezuela demand. GUYANA IS IN A PINCH. VENEZUELA IS NOT DELAYING THIS DISPUTE.

    • @leonelgarcia5102
      @leonelgarcia5102 5 років тому

      Len ND ur right

    • @withJC
      @withJC Рік тому +1

      Venezuela agreed to the 1899 arbitration with the Britlsh..... end of discussion

    • @eduardoyepez297
      @eduardoyepez297 Рік тому

      @@withJCIt was declared invalid.. Didn’t you know that.? 😂😂

    • @Deannahinds637
      @Deannahinds637 8 місяців тому

      @@eduardoyepez297 venezuela is in violation of the agreement they greedy

  • @rosemarytaylor318
    @rosemarytaylor318 8 місяців тому +2

    May God almighty help Guyana

  • @Bronxguyanese
    @Bronxguyanese 9 років тому +9

    My family is from Guyana and I know much about the dispute and on occasion visiting Guyana, checked out the region of Essequibo. Essequibo is a very beautiful and prestine full of resources that has never been exploited by neither Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, British colonizers, but only lately amongst Guyanese, and most notably an emerging Brazil. Guyana itself is stuck in a quagmire. Its stuck in two different realms. One realm is South America which it is trying to associate itself with, the other realm is the Caribbean which it has been associated with as a British colony. Guyana even though it is South American, the country historically and culturally to a certain degree associates with the Caribbean and this is where Guyana problems lay. Venezuela is economic shambles right now. Taking Guyana can benefit Venezuela due region of Essequibo full of resources. The big problem for Venezuela is that this enrouachment of Guyana might breech UNASUR agreement and probably pull Venezuela into a conflict with neighboring Brazil. Historically the US has supported the Venezuelan position of the territorial claim, but the world has changed since then, also the US replaced Britain as the defacto power of the world, and the US oversees former British colonies. The US recognize Guyana soveriengtly. But I can guarantee if this was 30 years ago the US would probably support a Venezuelan invasion of Guyana due to Guyana being Marxist and supporting communist regimes like Cuba. Like I said before Guyana is quagmire and there isn't much for the world to do for Guyana except for Brazil.

    • @OrinocoRoraima
      @OrinocoRoraima 9 років тому +4

      Benjamin Gibson me gusta tu comentario muy claro solo acotar que no se reclama nada de guyana ni un milímetro el reclamo es sobre el esequivo que lo están explotando empresas chinas con concesiones guyanesas violando el tratado de ginebra el cual dice bien claro que seria legal una intervencion militar a lo cual recordar que venezuela jamas a dado concesiones en territorio en disputa , recordando le que ya Venezuela tiene la mayor reserva de crudo del planeta sin el esequivo, el reclamo es mas reivindicatorio territorial y en el pasado usa a apoyado una intervención venezolana en el esequivo y a guyana lo cual siempre caracas se a negado porque estamos claro que si se quiera conflicto bélico hace rato que hubiera explotado pero en las masas venezolana no piensan a guyana ni como amenaza ni como enemigos ni apoyarían un conflicto a pesar que todos queremos recuperar el territorio usurpado por Inglaterra y si brasil claro que intercepte por guyana y es lamentable la locura que vive mi nación pero como yo digo el socialismo como ellos dicen es por ahora Venezuela es para siempre aa y yo pienso que guyana si se cuadra con Venezuela seria la mejor nación del CARICOM disculpa si ofendo que no es mi intención saludos suerte y éxitos

    • @Bronxguyanese
      @Bronxguyanese 9 років тому

      +Ly Do. Greece didn't fight the Ottoman empire with 300 men, that was the Persian empire. The Greeks did fight the Ottoman empire with 5000 and 2000 Italian mercenaries and the Greeks lost and got conquered As for why Guyana is poor? Guyana is on a bad spot in South America. Essequibo river is poorly accesed by Guyanese to make goods easy to transport except for on river barges. Another thing is geography guyana isolated itself from South America, British fused with with the Caribbean. This isolation from the continent was more of a curse than a blessing. Last politics mainly leftist Marxist Polcies hunted Guyana. You guys chase the white men out. Ppp is a leftist political party and easily aligned with Venezuela bolivar leftist ideology. Guyana is fucked from the start friend.

    • @jack1428
      @jack1428 9 років тому

      Benjamin Gibson Off topic But would be good to mention the Greeks lost, to a much bigger force, some estimates up to 300,000 Muslim Invaders.

    • @Bronxguyanese
      @Bronxguyanese 9 років тому +1

      ***** Guyana never has real freedom. Guyana too at one time was socialist as well as the ppp and PNC. They all suck up to Castro like today's Venezuela.

    • @OrinocoRoraima
      @OrinocoRoraima 9 років тому

      jjajajaj era socialista es socialista y con el actual presidente va para comunismo puro si el actual presidente de guyana es igual de admirador que los castros que los de miraflores

  • @lavingstongreene-mv7lz
    @lavingstongreene-mv7lz 8 місяців тому

    Good morning have some information I'd like to get Johnny Douglas as a child that Bob Marley and assembly 1973

  • @romemeka
    @romemeka 8 років тому +31

    Leave Guyana alone that oil belongs to them. Guyana is protected by America and the British becareful!

  • @waldensmith4796
    @waldensmith4796 Рік тому +4

    Great discussion on the Territorial dispute between Guyana and Venezuela. You inspire me to think in terms of Guyana Defence force and naval Patrols are limited and cannot defend the Esequibo Region in dispute. However can a Caribbean Military Operation be set up in the larger Caribbean Islands etc like Trinidad Jamaica including Guyana under the Command of the US Canada and the UK to help Guyana or other Caribbean Islands to respond to military threats . Soldiers and military resources can be dispatched to the Caribbean trouble spot areas when needed. Just a thought.

    • @llanossabana4367
      @llanossabana4367 Рік тому

      Venezuela legally refers to the Geneva Agreement, which indicates that this territory cannot be exploited by either party until reaching agreements accepted by both parties.
      “After two years of reviewing maps, statements from all national and international sectors, Venezuela should not fear what has to do with their tests, with their titles; Venezuela has proof, what Guyana has is a de facto situation," he explained. The Essequibo territory belonged to the Captaincy General of Venezuela when it was a crown colony and there is no transfer between the Kingdom of Spain and the United Kingdom of these lands.

    • @waldensmith4796
      @waldensmith4796 Рік тому

      @@llanossabana4367 see Llanos while we recognize this agreement the ICJ just ruled where Venezuelas objection was denied. The ICJ the ruling body have reasons for Guyana to proceed in this area.

  • @mijakmia6797
    @mijakmia6797 9 років тому +10

    This is like a bad dialogue scene from a porno

  • @eugeneadams851
    @eugeneadams851 9 місяців тому +1

    They are coming on us 😢

  • @el-viejoperro-caliente2294
    @el-viejoperro-caliente2294 6 років тому +3

    United Nation Organization is not lying, for over five decades Guyana has not been able to prove Venezuela is wrong, therefore, Venezuela demand is valid. Take your evidences to United Nations.
    International courts have not authority enough to solve this kind of problems, these depend on previous agreement between sides. UN can approve invasion to some nation, if it's need.
    TAKE YOUR EVIDENCES AND SHOW THEM TO UNITED NATIONS ORGANIZATION..

    • @nativekhanbrian5211
      @nativekhanbrian5211 3 роки тому

      Ik thats true so that means we are just gonna let u destroy us??????

  • @Nonamearisto
    @Nonamearisto 9 років тому +13

    So, in Venezuela, Gringo imperialism is out, but Chavezismo imperialism is in? Makes sense.

    • @jesusbermudez6775
      @jesusbermudez6775 8 місяців тому

      Yep , it makes sense because such is life. There are always empires and there will always be.

    • @EdgarPoe_Raven
      @EdgarPoe_Raven 7 місяців тому

      Venezuela is an empire, that's funny. Since the spanish crown times, they only lose territories.

    • @jesusbermudez6775
      @jesusbermudez6775 7 місяців тому +1

      All empires lose territory. One day the USA will lose territory. Venezuela has never been an empire; however, Venezuelan politicians that have enjoyed prosperity due to the money from in from oil have tried to become influential regional leaders. This was the case of Carlos Andrés Pérez, and then of Chávez. In both cases they gave away oil to their neighbours, such as Guyana and other Caribbean countries. Well Chávez wanted to give cheap oil to the UK and tried to reach an agreement with Ken Livingston. However, as you point out Venezuela has not invaded any one and it is an extremely peaceful in geopolitical sense in comparison to countries such as the USA, Britain and the like that have invaded all over the world. @@EdgarPoe_Raven

  • @rosemarytaylor318
    @rosemarytaylor318 8 місяців тому +2

    We have the oil now we have to defend the oil.

  • @fartknocker132
    @fartknocker132 6 років тому +1

    I OWN VENEZUELA AND GUYANA BOTH.

  • @jonathanpersaud3542
    @jonathanpersaud3542 8 років тому +15

    All guyanese ready to fight venezuela for wat belongs to us

  • @antskilu1354
    @antskilu1354 9 років тому +3

    thats what happend if u talking with birds who are hugo zharves ghost. .

  • @greigpeters7074
    @greigpeters7074 7 місяців тому

    My to I love guyana the world is on guyana side

  • @meditacionyarmonia4932
    @meditacionyarmonia4932 8 місяців тому

    What the interviewee does not say is how the process of the Paris arbitration award of 1899 was made leaving Venezuela out, an agreement between 2 British, 2 Americans and 1 Russian decided without letting Venezuela have a chance to defend itself, but fortunately the matter was exposed in the memoirs of one of the participants:
    After the death of Severo Mallet Prevost-one of the American lawyers who participated in the defense of Venezuela in the award-his legal representative Otto Schöenrich made public in 1949, at the express request of Prevost, a document written by Mallet Prevost himself in the year 1944, in which he considers that the Arbitration Award was a political compromise, the work of pressure on the justice system, a behind-the-scenes compromise by which "three judges who had the majority disposed of the territory of Venezuela, because the two judges "The British were not acting as judges, but rather as men of the government, as lawyers."
    The document would confirm that Fiódor Martens deliberately did not act as an impartial judge, he was not guided by the principles of law or technical analysis of the evidence and even, as the document reveals, he persuaded one of the parties to accept a proposal. solution of the controversy that he himself had developed, far from the same rules contained in the Arbitration Treaty of 1897 and the principles that govern the law.
    This finding would reveal a compromise that occurred with respect to the decision of the Paris Arbitration Court. The document would serve as one of several elements for Venezuela to make a formal denunciation of the Award to the world in 1962.

  • @VRISOL-pz6gp
    @VRISOL-pz6gp 8 місяців тому

    In doing what Venezuela has done and will do will not only violate Guyana, but the US as EXXON has their wells in the area.

  • @user-ku7dz3mx2p
    @user-ku7dz3mx2p 8 місяців тому

    They have to settle the suriname issue too

  • @Deannahinds637
    @Deannahinds637 8 місяців тому

    why dont madura try fighting with brazil and colombia

  • @user-lq5cl2sx8x
    @user-lq5cl2sx8x 8 місяців тому

    I am from Guyana south America and Venezuela have nothing in my country

  • @user-qw7rf2sz7f
    @user-qw7rf2sz7f 9 місяців тому +1

    If Venezuela invite Guyana,
    it will cause a regional and international conflict,
    with all the super power.🇬🇾🇧🇷🇮🇳🇺🇸🇬🇧🇷🇺🇨🇳🇺🇳

  • @rafaelfantauzzinazario7740
    @rafaelfantauzzinazario7740 5 місяців тому

    LA GUAYANA ESEQUIBA ES VENEZOLANA CARAJOOO!

  • @nomorefood6742
    @nomorefood6742 6 років тому +4

    So because they closed the Guyana-Venezuela border, every Venezuelan people who are looking to go back gotta go through Brazil? This makes no sense open back the border

  • @JuanCCastilloR1
    @JuanCCastilloR1 8 років тому +7

    Why does the Esequibo region belong historically to Venezuela? All people know that the New Continent was discovered in 1492 by Christopher Columbus in the name and representation of the Spanish Kingdom of Castille and Aragon. Then, in 1498 on the third voyage to the American continent, Columbus did arrive to South America, specifically at the coast of the Paria peninsula in what is now called Venezuela. Thence, the Spanish conquistadors were the first colonizers of South America. Venezuela, as province of the Spanish Crown in South America reached the Esequibo river as its far eastern limit; why? Because the boundaries of the territories at those times were established on the basis of natural limits such as mountain ranges, lakes, coasts or rivers. The Esequibo river was the perfect limit, the "limit" by antonomasia, in the Guayanas region, for it runs from south to north dividing perfectly two zones well defined. And the Dutch colonizers did recognise the Esequibo river as the western limit of their colony in the north of South America. For that reason all the cities of the Dutch Guyana were located at the east of the Esequibo river. Later, the British empire bought a little portion of the Dutch colony; it was a little part of the Dutch territories in the Guayanas, not the half of it, and that portion was the little part at the east of the Esequibo river and not at the west of it because that territory did belong to the Republic of Venezuela.

  • @fral-homosexualrebel9888
    @fral-homosexualrebel9888 5 років тому +5

    Cease the aggressions of the government of Nicolas Maduro against the integral and territorial sovereignty of Guyana. The Essequibo belongs to the Cooperative Republic of Guyana!

  • @JuanCCastilloR1
    @JuanCCastilloR1 8 років тому +15

    The boundaries of Venezuela as province of the Spanish empire in America were established since the early years of the eighteenth century in royal orders of the years 1728, 1748, 1763 and 1777; on those years it didn't exist a British colony on the northern zone of south America. The eastern border of the Venezuelan territory was undoubtedly the Esequibo river. Venezuela achieved its independence in 1811; Venezuela was already an independent republic when the British empire established its colony on the eastern bank of the Esequibo river; actually all the cities of the British Guyana were situated at the east of the Esequibo river. There is no doubt that the Esequibo region did belong completely to Venezuela. The British empire usurped that territory by means of coaction and threat.

    • @zochbuppet448
      @zochbuppet448 8 років тому +3

      +Carlos Castillo Guyana's territorial claim lies with the Netherlands (Holland/Zeeland,
      which are now provinces), and goes back to the early 1600's with
      "companies" from the Netherlands, The same way countries like Canada
      came in existence. There are maps from Holland showing claim in the
      1600's "the wild coast". Thats why arbitration was even possible. They
      even had settlements on the Brazilian coast. in the beginning Guyana
      used to be Dutch and Surinam used to be English. Through the constant
      ongoing European wars the lands/ colonies were traded.
      Well according to the Spanish Crown and silly ridiculous man in a hat and a staff following made up lies in a book (Pope), everything west of Africa belongs to the Spanish and everything east Portugal. Thats the way it should be. We'll just slaughter the native population and take what rightfully belongs to us, because god said so. Thank god the English and Dutch totally ignored these idiots, who thought they had sway over all humans.

    • @JuanCCastilloR1
      @JuanCCastilloR1 8 років тому +4

      +Zoch Buppet The first colonizers of South America were the Spanish conquistadores (the first city founded in South America was Cumaná in the territory later called Venezuela). The Dutch Kingdom established its colony at the east of the Esequibo river, there is no doubt about it; actually the Dutch colonizer NEVER founded a hamlet, town or city at the west of the Esequibo river; why? Because they recognise that river as the natural frontier between the Spanish colony and the Dutch colony. When the British empire bought a little portion of the Dutch colony there were no Dutch settlements at the west of the Esequibo river. The Dutch kingdom did NEVER sell to the British kingdom a territory as huge as the current territory of Guyana, that is a undeniable fact.

    • @JuanCCastilloR1
      @JuanCCastilloR1 8 років тому

      +Zoch Buppet The Dutch companies, particularly the Dutch West India Company, were organised to trade in slaves; actually the Dutch hunted the African people just like animals along the Guinea coast, and they did the same with the aboriginal natives of the Guayanas. For that reason the Dutch settlements don't thrive as political societies.

    • @leonelgarcia5102
      @leonelgarcia5102 5 років тому +1

      Mario Z, Venezuela was not a part of Colombia but they were both a part of La Gran Combia which had everything left side of the esequibo river.

    • @user-bj7jc5hd1f
      @user-bj7jc5hd1f 8 місяців тому

      Full of lie's

  • @ulrichlachman1216
    @ulrichlachman1216 8 місяців тому

    Suriname also has a border dispute with Guyana.
    If the Venezuelan government of Nicolás Maduro decides tomorrow to annex the Essequibo area following a military action following a referendum, the Guyanese will be faced with a taste of their own medicine. The Venezuelans have been claiming the Essequibo area for decades, because they assume that during the colonial administration of the British - in what is now called Guyana - the aforementioned area was confiscated by the German Robert Hermann Schomburgk by drawing up false maps. . Venezuela was certainly no match for the British militarily at that period, so the area was added to Guyana. It must be clear that the British also wanted a so-called foothold on the mainland of South America. On our side too, the British have done everything they can to steal territory from the other colonizers in the North Sea. The fact that part of present-day Guyana also belonged to the colony of Suriname can still be deduced from the Dutch names in certain places. But it was the same Robert Hermann Schomburgk who ascended the Corentijn and also after this journey drew up a false map for the British, in which he indicated that the Coeroeni Cutari was the upper course of the Corantijn River. He had not seen the truly much larger stream of water that we call the Upper Corantijn. Later, upon further investigation by the British Barrington Brown, the Upper Corantijn - which he called the New River - turned out to be the real upper course, creating the so-called Tigri Delta, located between Coeroeni, Cutari, Upper Corantijn and the Acarai Mountains, without there was no doubt that it should be regarded as Surinamese territory. However, the British wanted nothing to do with Barrington Brown's findings. In 1969, before our political independence, President Forbes Burnham of Guyana, which became independent in 1966, decided to occupy the Tigri Delta by means of military force. As is known, the Netherlands, which still had to defend Suriname as a part of the empire, did not intervene. Due to this annexation and the violent actions of Guyana, Suriname still has a border dispute with that country, just like Venezuela has with the Guyanese over the Essequibo area. The Guyanese government is now screaming bloody murder and is seeking support all over the world against a possible Venezuelan attack to take over the area militarily, but Suriname should absolutely not side with Guyana when it comes to the Essequibo issue. Guyana has occupied part of our territory since 1969, and does everything if the area belongs to it. We may be part of the English-speaking club CARICOM, which immediately supported Guyana, but we have been robbed by the Guyanese for more than 54 years. They have taken our territory hostage with military force and we should not accept that for a moment and certainly should not side with them when it concerns the Essequibo issue between Venezuela and the Guyanese. The fact that the Venezuelans now want to take back the area, if necessary with the use of the much stronger Venezuelan army, of course has everything to do with the large oil and natural gas reserves that have been discovered off the coast of the aforementioned area. This border dispute could have enormous consequences for security in our area, which can be described as the Guyanas. An area that runs from the Orinoco to the Oyapock. It is understandable that Venezuela may wish to use military resources. Isn't that what the Guyanese did to us in 1969, when The Hague did everything it could to get the police unit out of the Tigri area and was under former officer Lapre. The Netherlands did not want to have trouble with NATO partner Great Britain, that was clear at the time. But we now live in the 21st century and must not forget that we have a Ukraine and a Gaza, where major powers commit actions that can cause changes within geopolitics, including on our continent, when business and major financial interests come into play. This is about oil, that's what it was about in Iraq too. We can always talk about green energy and electric cars, but oil is still of great and survival importance for most economies and that is why the Venezuelan-Guyanese border conflict can still cause a lot of trouble for all of us. And especially if world powers get involved. Is oil a blessing or a curse? Unfortunately, this will also be expressed or expressed in this region.
    Surinamese Newspaper / Source: De West, d.d., 19-11-2023

    • @Deannahinds637
      @Deannahinds637 8 місяців тому

      there was a legally binding agreement why dispute it now ...venezuela dont want peace they are suffering so the want to take part of guyana ......oil is blessing with greed

  • @jayrockstedy9890
    @jayrockstedy9890 2 роки тому +1

    Imagine the colonizers fighting for more land. Columbus/colum-bia (Venezuela) dont own shit around here

  • @neamatal
    @neamatal 8 років тому +2

    Amazes me these experts seem to ignore the following and "Recent" history lessons:
    Iraq invaded Kuwait and was 'assured ' no intervention by the USA and West
    Argentia invaded Falklands /Maldives and GB was not supposed to intervene
    Venezuela is floundering economically and the last 5 years had to even import oil
    Riots are in Venezuela for food
    Is this saying and relevance"An army marches on it's stomach"?

  • @wyndhleodumegwu253
    @wyndhleodumegwu253 8 років тому +6

    COLUMBUS 'discovered' that these lands he had stolen and given to Spain as gifts originally belonged to the Aboriginal and Indigenous peoples of the Americas and the Guyanas, including the County of Guyana.
    His theft of lands and territories was approved and ratified by the Papacy of The Roman Empire.
    How can one justly claim lands that were stolen and given to one as gifts?
    European nations of Portugal, France, Dutch Netherland of Holland, and Great Britain were fighting continuously and belligerently amongst themselves for territories, possessions and peoples whom they enslaved most barbarically.
    About which land does Venezuela speak? Stolen, thieving lands which were given to it!
    Portugal was driven out of the American and Essequibian regions by Spain which seized Aboriginal and Indigenous peoples' lands; France, through wars with Spain, recaptured the Guyanas and the ESSEQUIBO; through wars again, France lost to the DUTCH Netherlanders of Holland, which, in turn, lost finally to Great Britain.
    Christopher Columbus's territorial theft was now divided amongst the once warring European factions of the Portuguese, Spaniards - not the same as Spanish-speaking Hispanics/'Latinos' who were once enslaved by Spain - the Holland Dutch and finally the British.
    These lands, even those on which the countries of both Guyana and Venezuela stand, originally belonged to the Aboriginal and Indigenous peoples who owned them more than 50, 000 years before the arrival and intrusion of Christopher Columbus in this South American Continent, and, of course, long before his loot and perpetration of the Aboriginal and Indigenous Peoples Holocausts.
    Venezuela, you must know better than to try once more to steal from a little ex-colonized sister of which the name, in perpetuity, is Miss Essequibo English Guyana.
    Paz y Belleza!

    • @Christopher408
      @Christopher408 7 років тому

      wyndhl eodumegwu Columbus didn't discover shit.it was thr guy in the crows nest saw the land

    • @jesusbermudez6775
      @jesusbermudez6775 8 місяців тому

      Tell me what land has not been stolen all over the world?

    • @wyndhl8309
      @wyndhl8309 8 місяців тому +1

      @@jesusbermudez6775 What's your point, if any?

    • @jesusbermudez6775
      @jesusbermudez6775 8 місяців тому

      Well the point is obvious and one that most people know. Humans have been moving around for a long time and they settle here, and settle there and say this and this belongs to them. Then someone else comes along and butchers the settlers and now it belongs to them. @@wyndhl8309

  • @wyndhleodumegwu253
    @wyndhleodumegwu253 8 років тому +2

    Correction:
    ...including Guyana's County of Essequibo.

  • @wyndhleodumegwu253
    @wyndhleodumegwu253 9 років тому +12

    Mr. Benjamin Gibson, just as I was about to give you some points for what would have otherwise been an almost impartial and sound historical view point, you've blown it. How deceitful and cunning, just being polite, for you to suggest that Guyana surrenders its National Sovereignty to some rapacious, political Conquistadors! Who dare you!
    Lands were won; lands were lost. USA and UK intentionally put Guyana in this predicament by tying it up in a 116-year-old irrevocably resolved dispute of 1899, lest for fear Guyana went Communist after it was given Independence by Great Britain in 1966. Columbus pillaged and stole the lands and gave to Spain; Portugal and France fought to retrieve the stolen territory. The Dutch Netherlands of Holland did its belligerent best to recapture and reclaim much Territory. Finally Great Britain joined in the wars, winning its share of the Guyanas from the Dutch Netherlands of Holland - not from Spain or Venezuela. Hence, the coming into being of French Guyana, Dutch Guyana, British Guiana which includes Guyana's national sovereignty of Essequibo. The then capital of Guyana with its biggest market is called Stabroek, Dutch. Wakaam, Uitvlugt, ...Dutch names of streets; La Penitence, Mon Repos, Le Repentir, La Bon Intention... French names of streets and factories There are many, many more, some of which I am unable to spell. I can't think of any Spanish names of places in Guyana. Perhaps, the French Cayenne and the Dutch Surinaam of the Guyanas may be more eligible for an Essequibo/Guyanas claim talk - not discussion.
    Venezuela presented a HAND-WRITTEN NOTE of a DEAD MAN as legally authentic document to justify its falsehood of an imaginary claim to 2/3 of Guyana's Essequibo Territory. The Geneva Accord of 1966 granted Venezuela time-extension to present legally concrete documents. Venezuela could not or would not. Time-extension was once again accorded to Venezuela by the 1970 Protocol of Port-of-Spain to support its concoction of a false claim with legal papers. Venezuela failed but insisted on talking about a DEAD MAN'S NOTE.
    In 1858, Venezuela argued for territory and was given Guyana's riches mineral and natural resources of the New Providence Settlement ( Nueva Providencia ) within the Basin and Tributaries of the Cuyuni and Yuruari. In 1969, Venezuela pillaged and rapaciously seized Guyana's portion of the island of Ankoko ( Anacoco )
    Protestations were voiced ad nauseam for the return to Guyana of its National Sovereignty of Ankoko, but to no avail. Guyana was espousing SOCIALISM much to the chagrin and wrath of Britain and the United States which countries were at that time achieving their crafted and orchestrated objectives: Guyana would not emulate and imitate Cuba, they conjectured. If it did, we would invade under the pretext of defending our Venezuelan interests, they silently warned.
    It is apposite to note that in 1953 when, under the Communist Prime Minister Dr. Cheddie Jagan and Socialist LFS Burnham, Guyana affirmed its intentions to become - before Cuba - a Soviet Socialist Republic with appendage and homage to Russia, Great Britain, influenced by the United of America, dispatched warships and military personnel, suspended the Guyanaian Constitution. It caused a split within the Communist-Socislist Party of the People Progressive Party, thus sowing the seed of ethnic animosity especially between the Guyanese Africans and the Guyanese Indians - both groups with skin tone 'black'. This gave birth of use, in a negative manner, to the terms 'black man' and 'Coolie baboon'. A Socialist PNC was launched by LFS Burnham, attorney-at-law.
    Guyana is in this predicament because it has been romancing with COMMUNISM and SOCIALISM before it could have even crawled. Now that the handle of Government is in the able-bodied hands of a multi-ethnic Capitalist government, the prospect of Venezuela's withdrawal of their bogey of a claim may be imminent, for the memory of Sadaam Hussein's fate for land grab at the hands of the US and its allies may be a buoyant deterrent to Venezuela's aggressive provocation.
    Prior to 1492, lands in the Americas and the Guyanas were inhabited by Aboriginal Indians and Indigenous Africans ( Read Ian Van Sertima's They Came Before Columbus ) Christopher Columbus, an Italian Conquistador, ignominiously pillage and seized lands and made gifts to King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella of Spain, since the Italian government did not endorse Columbus's land thievery in the Americas and in the Guyanas.
    Benjamin Gibson, you need to apologize to the Guyanese people. You are indulging in sophistry by endeavoring to promote and advance your sycophancy of treachery and treason. Put yourself in the geographic habitation; flip the coin; look in the mirror and confront your absurdity full force!
    The all of Essequibo is Guyana's; Venezuela must apologize , return the Nueva Providencia stolen from Guyana in 1858, as well as Ankoko, and with- draw very expeditiously its bogey of an imaginary and concocted claim. A DEAD MAN'S NOTE purporting an 1899 Settlement Fraud - 116 years ago - is unacceptable in any Court of Law. CARICOM knows it; the UN endorses it.
    Long live Guyana's sovereignty of Essequibo! Long live the United States of America! Long live EXXON MOBILE OIL! Long live Great Britain! Long live France ! Long live Guyana!

    • @LuccianoBartolini
      @LuccianoBartolini 8 років тому +3

      +wyndhl eodumegwu You're forgetting that Bolívar liberated the territory of the Essequibo from European control, which is why you can see that territory in the maps of The Great Colombia and after separating from it, Venezuela kept the Guayana, but when a Prussian lined the borders of the British Guyana on the wrong side of the river (by accident), the British started to take each time more and more land, by 1899 they were trying to take the Orinoco River (Which the US didn't allowed); Venezuela couldn't do much about it because it was busy having civil wars and by the time the Civil wars were over (the beginnings of the 20th Century thanks to Vicente Gómez), the British already stole it with that Arbitrary treaty. And Venezuela, being the respectful one, decided to abide by that until we saw that note (which came from the US so go ask them about that) and then decided to fight back, the only reason why we haven't taken it over is because between 1958-1998 the President weren't focusing on it (with the only exception of Raúl Leoni who made the Ginebra Agreement of 1966 and brought us the Island of Anacoco) and Chávez pretty much was only buying the Guyanese to affirm his government, Maduro (ironically, the most incompetent President in our whole history) has been giving more fight for that Territory than any other president (with the Exception of Antonio Guzmán Blanco [who also fought for the island of Trinidad] and Marcos Pérez Jiménez who was going to go after the Essequibo but then the January of 23th happened and he decided to leave), Venezuela doesn't owe Guyana any apology, THEY owe us an apology for illegal land-grabbing.
      And as said, we only want The Guayana Esequiba, which belong to us, otherwise, we wouldn't have recognised Guyana as a Sovereign Nation.

    • @wyndhleodumegwu253
      @wyndhleodumegwu253 8 років тому

      +Battshit Crazy: Yours is an unfounded conjecture coming from, yes of course, a nonaged, non compos mentis of modern history!
      I can appreciate your well-founded but unacceptable befuddlement of anthropological and archaeological researches, scholarly analyses, meticulous chronicles, authentic ratifications and documentations et al.
      Education! Our History, yours and mine; not the victors' or conquerors', n'est pas?
      !Que lastima!
      Paz y Beldad!

    • @reyran2011
      @reyran2011 8 років тому

      +Lucciano Bartolini why don't you go find a piece of Italy to claim. From 1899 to 1962 Venezuela accepted their Borders as today. Then suddenly through a post humous note from Provost you are using this for the basis to illegally steal Essequibo. In 1899 Brazil gained territory from Venezuela why aren't you guys making a claim to Brazil for illegally usurping your territory ??? You cross the Borders and you will find out who really Guyana's friends are...we are all waiting for a party a similar one to the Iraq / Kuwait miscalculation.

    • @LuccianoBartolini
      @LuccianoBartolini 8 років тому +2

      reyran2011 Really, we didn't said anything until the note because we were mature enough to accept defeat, but when it was shown up that it was a scam, we decided to fight back.
      Italy? what are you talking about?
      If you think we hadn't said anything to Brazil just wait, just wait, because very soon Brazil and Venezuela won't have the same relationship.
      Oh and using intimidation to force your claim, really cool, You do know that Spain, Colombia México and many other nations recognize Venezuela's Claim right? and we only want the Essequibo, not Guyana, we want what it belongs to us.

    • @jesusbermudez6775
      @jesusbermudez6775 8 місяців тому +1

      Venezuelans have never accepted the borders as they are.@@reyran2011

  • @KevinP32270
    @KevinP32270 8 років тому +4

    venezualan army is already doing patrols in guyana. THEY HAVE ALREADY INVADED GUYANA.

    • @davidmangru3517
      @davidmangru3517 8 місяців тому

      When did you see that

    • @KevinP32270
      @KevinP32270 8 місяців тому

      @@davidmangru3517 youtube years ago. they were having a war about their boundaries.

  • @ikaros21x
    @ikaros21x 9 років тому +3

    This "analysis" is so empty. Venezuela has been denouncing the 1899 ruling from the same day it knew the decission. The ruling was marred by too many vices and is obviously null and void. Venezuela formally denounced the ruling back in 1945, because it was that year when the United Nations was created. Them again in 1962. The UN accepted the claim and in 1966 both the UK and Guyana accepted there is a pending border controversy that must be resolved in a manner acceptable for both parties (Venezuela and Guyana). Now Guyana is violating the Treaty they signed in 1966 saying that the land is just theirs. The fact is that they must negotiate with Venezuela in order to settle the issue if they want to exploit the resources of the disputed territories!

    • @steinbachalwyn3159
      @steinbachalwyn3159 6 років тому

      hiddendaemian

    • @KINGKUSHORLANDO
      @KINGKUSHORLANDO 5 років тому

      We dont negotiate with terrorists and we kill murderers we will stack your bodies along the border for you Venezuelans to learn what happens when u overstep your boundaries. Mark my words

  • @farajaraf
    @farajaraf 9 років тому +2

    All lies coming off the top of his head.

  • @user-ku7dz3mx2p
    @user-ku7dz3mx2p 8 місяців тому

    Guyana will go and beg arms

  • @traveladventures6730
    @traveladventures6730 8 місяців тому

    As a Proud Indian Guyanese and American 🇬🇾 🇺🇸, this is just outrageous to think that we would just hand over 2/3 of the country's landmass to Venezuela. The map of Guyana has been the same for over 100 years even since colonial times under the British rule, why should it be changed now? The primary motive for the county of Venezuela is they want to claim Guyana's nature resources as their own. Let me ask you this. Do you think the USA with just sit back on the sidelines and let their interest / investments be threatened by Venezuela. As history shows us, Americans don't just sit back and do nothing. I can asure you that especially being that we all share the same hampshire. The government of Venezuela should seek to provide an internal solution to help its own citizens with their domestic issues (economical, social, political) instead of threatening my country !

  • @marvinpercival4717
    @marvinpercival4717 8 місяців тому

    Essequibo belongs to the indegenous guyanese that ibdegenohs guyanese lands we indians and africans k ow that we r on tgeir land so by default the essequibo is guyana facts.venezuela can ot take indegenous guyanese people lands they r the true guyanese.

  • @meditacionyarmonia4932
    @meditacionyarmonia4932 8 місяців тому

    The most vulgar thing about Exxon with Guyana was to start operations in a disputed territory without consulting Venezuela, trampling on our rights over the essequibo, nobody wants a war but these rude actions of Exxon are only accelerating a theater of war that nobody wants, We Venezuelans will fight for our rights, it is not the first time that we go to a conflict to defend our territory, we are people of peace but we know how to fight and defend our sovereignty, the prudent thing at this point in the conflict is for Exxon to sit down and talk with Venezuela, the path of agreements is better than the path of weapons and we Venezuelans have already made the firm decision to face whatever is necessary to assert our rights over the Essequibo.

  • @user-tk8tz7xf1q
    @user-tk8tz7xf1q 8 місяців тому

    Guyana need to buy weapons stop talking

  • @baselsaab8296
    @baselsaab8296 9 років тому +8

    El Esequibo es Venezolano!!

    • @markdoris4186
      @markdoris4186 6 років тому

      no senor .Es de Guyana.Puede trater su mierda? Pergunta leopoldo Galtieri de Argentina.

    • @jesusbermudez6775
      @jesusbermudez6775 8 місяців тому

      Siempre ha sido y siempre lo será.

  • @Drijoow00
    @Drijoow00 8 місяців тому

    You speak garbage about Guyana 🇬🇾 essequibo belongs to Guyana 🇬🇾 laws and justice will fellow

  • @sharonharipal3726
    @sharonharipal3726 7 місяців тому

    Venezuela can't even manage the land they have now! But yet, they want Essequibo!!! What madness!! First learn to manage the land you have now. Talk about stupidity to the Highest decree.