7 RIDICULOUS Myths YOU Thought Were TRUE About The Old West

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  • Unearth the truth about the Old West in this video as we debunk seven popular myths about the Wild West era. Learn surprising facts about cowboys, bank robberies, cowboy hats, and more. Share your thoughts in the comments and don't forget to like and subscribe for more myth-busting content! 📜💬 ----------------------------------------------------------------TAGS----------------------------------------------- outlaw,lawmen,lawman,cowboy,wild west,old west,chiefs,native american,facts,history,american old west facts,american old,west facts,american old west,old west facts,western,indians,america,clint eastward,cowboy hats,shotguns,ridiculous myths,ridiculous myths everyone believes about the old west,old west photos,gunfight,old west documentary,old west history,old west gunfight,vaqueros,mexican,cattle,The Wild West,old west guns,ridiculous myths the old west

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  • @dennisanderson3895
    @dennisanderson3895 4 місяці тому +50

    When I was a young teen, my great grandmother told of arriving in Iowa as a little girl in a covered wagon. One day, she saw some natives on a ridge watching, then approaching them [ :-O ] so she hid under stuff in the wagon. When the fellows got by the wagon, she heard one tell her father, "I guess we scared that little girl. But me no hurt you. Me no hurt you."

  • @Mattnoble80
    @Mattnoble80 4 місяці тому +51

    I took a class in college while getting my history degree that discussed the true west, I loved the class but all my friends and family hate it when I point out inaccuracies in films

    • @Duck_Dodgers
      @Duck_Dodgers 4 місяці тому +11

      When people watch stuff for fun and you point out what's wrong with it. Yeah I would hate to have you around also

    • @Mattnoble80
      @Mattnoble80 4 місяці тому +7

      @@Duck_Dodgers I have gotten much better, I have to read the room of who is there to make the determination of whether they will be amazed be or annoyed by

    • @lillybloom1590
      @lillybloom1590 4 місяці тому +3

      @@Mattnoble80 Just about everything taught in schools the last fifty years comes frm Howard Zinn. I've read his works. They are sparsely documented and have tons of misquotes in them. For example, Columbus never thought he was in India. He had seen drawings and paintings of the people in India and so, he said the people he saw in America looked like them. Which is true. So, he began calling them, "Indians."
      That's where much of what you believe about US History comes frm.

    • @sonnysantana5454
      @sonnysantana5454 4 місяці тому +4

      just don't start correcting them on all of the myths , down right lies and far to many inaccuracies of amerikkkan history

    • @lillybloom1590
      @lillybloom1590 4 місяці тому

      @@sonnysantana5454 Yes, they've covered the spectrum wth made-up nonsense the last 57-yrs since the "Amridian Movement" began wth Snakewood and many of its workers supplying the stew to do so. Anthony Quinn, Marlon Bondo, Bert Reynolds, Tom Laughlin, Dennis Weaver, and numerous directors and producers, to mention a few.

  • @MuskratOutdoors
    @MuskratOutdoors 3 місяці тому +31

    Hickcock's hat was not a "Flat hat made for women". If you look at old pictures, it's a common flat, low crown cowboy type hat popular as far back as the Fur Trade. Jim Bridger had a similar one.

    • @danielinthewolvesden
      @danielinthewolvesden 3 місяці тому +10

      Yep, wide brimmed felt hats, very common. Bowler hats were not seen outside towns.

  • @Largo64
    @Largo64 4 місяці тому +103

    Interestingly, while this video says there were 5600 bank crimes in 2010, it doesn't specifiy whether they were crimes AGAINST banks or BY banks.

    • @TheRealRedAce
      @TheRealRedAce 4 місяці тому +7

      That would be a LOT more than 5600!

    • @dwaneanderson8039
      @dwaneanderson8039 4 місяці тому

      Even if it is just crimes against the banks, I doubt they are all armed robberies. They're probably mostly cases of fraud.

    • @Taffy064
      @Taffy064 4 місяці тому +3

      LOL, Excellent.

    • @0Zolrender0
      @0Zolrender0 4 місяці тому +4

      If it was by banks then the number would be in the tens of thousands.

    • @David-sk9vv
      @David-sk9vv 4 місяці тому +2

      Considering the Myth was discussing bank robberies against the banks; don't you think it is implied that in 2010 that they were crimes against the bank! TWIT!!!

  • @livinginvancouverbc2247
    @livinginvancouverbc2247 3 місяці тому +18

    My buddy's girlfriend said it must've been hard for the pioneers in the winter as there was no one to plow the highways.

    • @varanid9
      @varanid9 3 місяці тому +3

      What do you think the highwaymen were for??

    • @mikecrooks8085
      @mikecrooks8085 2 місяці тому

      In north Idaho until the railroads came, the best weather for moving heavy equipments lumber, farm stuffs was winter, out came the sleds and now then it did not matter how nasty, muddy or dusty, and rocky the road was. Snow in winter made travel easy.

  • @kentr2424
    @kentr2424 4 місяці тому +77

    The supposed "lack of guns" is itself a myth. There were guns aplenty on the frontier - but the majority of the guns were rifles and shotguns, not handguns. Handguns weren't much good for hunting, and that's what most guns on the frontier were used for.
    Hollywood would have people believe that every man carried a pistol, and that men faced each other down in the street to see who was faster on the draw. Gun battles in town were rare, because most townspeople had guns (rifles and shotguns) at home and knew how to use them. Many pioneers who went West were military veterans who'd served in the Mexican War of 1846 or Civil War, so a gun battle was nothing new - even if the battle was with outlaws robbing the local bank.

    • @mikekemp9877
      @mikekemp9877 4 місяці тому +9

      in fact the big period for carrying handguns was between 1850 to 1860.mark twain mentions it in roughing it when travelling west to virginia city late 1850s.nothing to do with bandits outlaws indians or gunfighters. he noted once in missouri then kansas territory and heading west everyman he saw openly wore a gun .it was so unusual that twin asked the stage driver why. it was of course due to the poitical situation re kansas becoming a free or slave state.the driver said if someone asks you what side you are on you better have a gun.! raids from the likes of john brown had basically made the entire region one in which a state of emergency existed.twain bought a cartridge firing smith and wesson .32 tip up revolver.he admitted the bullet was so feeble the weapon so inaccurate that i was safe .any foe shooting at me would drop dead from laughter before killing me! he also noted that as he progressed to the supposed uncivilised wild frontier guns were rarely seen.in virginia city a boom town full of rowdy prospecters he slept peacefully .nobody carried guns.in kansas hed be awakened every night with the sound of drunks discharging weapons! its odd if one reads of other frontier countries such as australia or south africa how little store even the military set on handguns.rifles and shotguns were what people used. at rorkes drift bromhead commanding wrote that chelmsfords forward column had no revolver ammunition as thought unnecessary . he gave a friend later killed at islandwhana 4 cartridges from his adams leaving him with two. he thought hed never need to use it. the british cavalry at this time were only just replacing single shot muzzle loading pistols with adams revolvers. handguns seem to have had more influence in the usa than other wild untamed countries at least in myth. generally the pistol was seen as the weapon of absolutely very last resort.

    • @TheRealRedAce
      @TheRealRedAce 4 місяці тому

      Lack of GUNS is a myth. Lack of gunFIGHTS isn't!

    • @gruntforever7437
      @gruntforever7437 4 місяці тому +8

      @@mikekemp9877 Cowboys carried pistols to help control the herd in a stampede; and to shoot snakes and other varmints close up

    • @mikekemp9877
      @mikekemp9877 4 місяці тому

      @@gruntforever7437 ah yes the hollywood version.simply not true.most cowboys couldnt afford a pistol.also its funny that no other wild community such as south africa australia and argentina felt the need to carry handguns when herding.try firing at a snake with a 1860s handgun youd be dead before you hit it! if that was true then cowboys would carry shotguns!

    • @wsg4847
      @wsg4847 4 місяці тому +2

      @@gruntforever7437 Especially them darn two-legged varmints. They was everywhere.

  • @slipstreamxr3763
    @slipstreamxr3763 4 місяці тому +37

    And here I always thought the number one cause of death on the Oregon Trail was dysentery.

  • @Quenstar
    @Quenstar 4 місяці тому +15

    The sheriff was the lawman of the county, the town lawman was the marshal, not to be confused with a US marshal. You find bowler hats in so many photographs because a photographs were a big thing at the time, and people wore their best.

    • @runlarryrun77
      @runlarryrun77 4 місяці тому +5

      A lot of people wore bowlers (or Derby hats, as was the more popular name in the old west & the Derby has a subtly different shape to the British bowler) because they're solid. Provides a lot more head protection than many other hats of the era, particularly when riding - which they did a lot of back then.
      Clothing outfitters sales inventories of the time support this too. The Derby hat was by far the biggest selling male headwear of the old west era.

    • @MrInitialMan
      @MrInitialMan 4 місяці тому +1

      @@runlarryrun77 Apparently, bowler and derby hats were meant to be helmets.

  • @davidford694
    @davidford694 4 місяці тому +14

    One of the biggest killers on the Oregon Trail was cholera. Sanitation at the stopping places was not good. People were enticed to make the trip by President Polk's offer of free land in Oregon. But if your husband died along the trail there was no land for you. Women would arrive in Oregon City destitute. Dr. John McLauglin, former chief factor of the British Hudson's Bay Company Columbia District, and his wife Marguerite took these women in and looked after them.
    Marguerite's mother was Ojibwa. She is my several greats aunt.

  • @efs83dws
    @efs83dws 4 місяці тому +12

    I am 70 years old. My great grandparents lived in the west, Montana, beginning in the early 1800’s as ranchers. They lived the life and told us lots of stories. They were tough and smart. They were also comfortable and healthy. People seem to think they never bathed. Not true. I remember my Dad took baths in the lake and the river often as did my Mom but less often.

    • @sonnysantana5454
      @sonnysantana5454 4 місяці тому +2

      the reason why hygiene wasn't a big issue was dependent upon the area of the west that 1' lived in water was a precious commodity and more used for the animals and drinking water and cooking if water was abundant and 1' lived near a fresh water lake or had a reliable well then bathing was a bit more common and back in the old days many people weren't that educated

  • @gerrimilner9448
    @gerrimilner9448 4 місяці тому +11

    the other thing about bank robberies, is that many banks had their own currency, which was unlikely to be worth much when taken out of the underwriters juridiction

    • @slypperyfox
      @slypperyfox 3 місяці тому

      @@gerrimilner9448 Ole Andrew Jackson earned his nickname and is credited with not renewing the charter for a national bank meant to standardize currency nationwide. As a general rule the US Gov’t was anti-centralized banking and the only reason we have one today (the Federal Reserve) is because of clever (and rich) manipulation by making the Fed name sound like a part of the Federal government. Congress voted this in in 1913. Think Rockefeller, Carnegie and other old dudes that looked like they posed for the “Monopoly” game board.

    • @mikecrooks8085
      @mikecrooks8085 2 місяці тому

      And the other about bank robberies so much money in the west was hard currency, gold and silver. Paper did not travel well for the very reason no one knew what the paper looked like from the next town so it was not trusted because no one was sure if it was real. Now if you stole any amount of coin, you had the big problem of moving it, a man and a horse could with a couple hundred in silver and a couple thousand in gold. Anymore than that and you would beat your horse and yourself to death. A lot of banks and mines would move and keep money in big bars just because it was such a hassle to move if it was stolen.

  • @outinthesticks1035
    @outinthesticks1035 4 місяці тому +8

    My great grandfathers family were the same thing as cowboys . In Ireland between 1600 and 1840 when he came over to north America
    They made a living driving cattle from all over Ireland to port , loading them on ships to take to England, and driving them across england to Smithfield market. So yes , it does predate the american cowboys

  • @arnocopley4928
    @arnocopley4928 3 місяці тому +5

    Elmer Keith wrote in "Hell I Was There" how someone tried robbing the bank in his Montana town. The townsfolk turned out to help the sheriff take down the would be robbers. They did not get far. Citizens had an interest in protecting the bank since that was where their many was held and there was no FDIC to protect them against loss.

    • @davidroman1654
      @davidroman1654 3 місяці тому

      The FDIC does not prevent a loss from a bank robbery. Most, if not ALL banks have insurance policies that would cover loss from theft as well as many other actions. FDIC only protects the deposits held by the bank if the bank fails.

    • @thenaturalmidsouth9536
      @thenaturalmidsouth9536 3 місяці тому

      The James Gang was almost obliterated by the townspeople of Northfield, Minnesota when they attempted to rob the bank there. A bunch of hard men, wearing dusters, heavily armed, riding really good horses, they stuck out like sore thumbs riding into town and immediately raised suspicions.

  • @panthercreek60
    @panthercreek60 3 місяці тому +5

    In the early settlement days of Georgia & east Alabama large caravans of farmers/traders, along with their families, would gather produce and stock and drive them to markets in Savannah and Charleston. The young boys who rangled the horses, hogs, cows, etc from one camping place to another were also called 'cowboys', because that's what they were- boys.
    Several tavern and pen locations sprang up along the roads. These boys also herded sheep and turkeys, sometimes goats. Very little has been written about this particular history of American settlement.
    Concerning hats, it seems most frontier men just wore some variation of the slouch hat. It shaded the sun, gave some cover from the rain. The back of the hat brim was always turned up to keep water from running down your shirt collar, and the front of the brim pointed slightly down so water would run off to the front. It was a simple and serviceable cover for most occassions.

  • @unclecreepy4324
    @unclecreepy4324 4 місяці тому +30

    Another myth is the gunfight of facing each other and drawing usually gunfights where back shootings.

    • @roballen8431
      @roballen8431 4 місяці тому +3

      Bill hickocks wasn t .

    • @earnem4175
      @earnem4175 4 місяці тому +1

      @@roballen8431 It was, Tutt-Hickok shootout was coincidental by all circumstances, no one knew who drew first

    •  4 місяці тому +5

      As Garak the Cardassian said, "it's the safest way, isn't it?".

    • @dwaneanderson8039
      @dwaneanderson8039 4 місяці тому +3

      @@roballen8431 The one that killed him was.

    • @roballen8431
      @roballen8431 4 місяці тому

      @@earnem4175 ok corral face to face

  • @Rkenton48
    @Rkenton48 4 місяці тому +10

    Unfortunately, Hollywood had mostly one source of info on the old west when they had started making those movies, an old man who had been a 'famous' lawman. Yep, Wyatt Earp was a consultant, and a young boy working on the sets loved listening to his stories of the old west and would grow up to become one of Hollywood's most famous western stars, John Wayne.

    • @benboru9013
      @benboru9013 3 місяці тому

      Actually, they had a lot of western character consultants. Bill Tilghman was one of the most prominent of those.

    • @Rkenton48
      @Rkenton48 3 місяці тому +1

      @@benboru9013 Yes, I was referring to the first one when westerns started being made.

    • @Paladin1873
      @Paladin1873 3 місяці тому

      I think you mean John Ford. He supposedly used Earp as a consultant on some silent westerns, though it is apparent either Ford or Earp did a great deal of embellishing. Ford's version of the O.K. Corral story (My Darling Clementine, 1946) is the least accurate one I've ever seen - and Ford claimed he was simply repeating what Earp told him. One or both of them was a B.S. artist, but also a master storyteller.

    • @benboru9013
      @benboru9013 3 місяці тому

      @Paladin1873 When he was asked about why his version was so inaccurate, Ford belligerently challenged the person, and it was pretty obvious he had made the story the way he wanted to and used Earp's name for validation.

    • @Rkenton48
      @Rkenton48 3 місяці тому

      @@Paladin1873 Don't know which set, studio, or director Earp was consulting. I'm sure he did it with many ($$$) I just know that he was one of the first consultants, and not a very good one. (BS sells)

  • @predragpavicevic216
    @predragpavicevic216 3 місяці тому +1

    Very entertaining and informative, with touch of a good humour also.
    Thanx, keep up !

  • @timonthetube92
    @timonthetube92 4 місяці тому +5

    It's relatively simple to look up photos from the old west and see that although there are quite a few bowler-type hats, variants of a sombrero were still predominate. The bowler hat depicted here and in the famous picture of Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid with three piece suits, is not very commonly seen in old pictures. There are variants, but most hats seem to be a cross between a sombrero and bowler, as would make sense with a melting pot of cultures. The vast majority of hats back then didn't have the crown and crease of todays cowboy hats, but even the original 1856 Stetson more closely resembles a modern cowboy hat than a bowler or a sombrero. It just had less shape built into it. When you look at how these hats are made today, they start with basically an 1856 Stetson shaped hat and go from there, adding over 150 years of culture and lessons learned into the shape and contour.
    You can also google how many pictures have British revolvers compared to Colt or S&W but I digress!

    • @kenwalker687
      @kenwalker687 3 місяці тому

      I watch Westerns for entertainment & story telling. If I want history, I'll go to one of the history channels or UA-cam, maybe I'll buy a history book.

    • @danielinthewolvesden
      @danielinthewolvesden 3 місяці тому +2

      Right. Bowler hats were worn in town. One idiot writer found that the classic Steson didnt come in until late period, then saw picture of the Wild Bunch all dressed up for a photo. But no, cowboys and rangers wore wide brimmed felt hats, the precursor to the Stetson.

  • @DeutschlandGuy
    @DeutschlandGuy 2 місяці тому +1

    07:29 "Even noisy places like Dodge City had signs like this one"... Then the video shows no sign. 🤔

  • @rssphllps
    @rssphllps 2 місяці тому +2

    No one is ever going to convince me that everything in The Ballad of Buster Scruggs was not 100% factual.

  • @michaelramsey3986
    @michaelramsey3986 4 місяці тому +15

    We been lied to forever, tooth fairy, Easter bunny, Santa Claus, booger bear, now you tell me, my favorite westerns lied to me too!!

    • @thejollygreendragon8394
      @thejollygreendragon8394 4 місяці тому

      Hey hey, you leave the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus alone, as they been leaving me Easter Eggs and pressies for years, but ya gotta be good 😇

    • @danielinthewolvesden
      @danielinthewolvesden 3 місяці тому

      No, this YT lied to you.

    • @mysterion4301
      @mysterion4301 3 місяці тому

      I think L'Amour did a pretty good job of trying to downplay a lot of the myths of the West regarding bank robberies, town takeovers, and gun fights. He also pointed up that a lot of the famous killers shot other men from ambush and in the back.

  • @draken68
    @draken68 4 місяці тому +10

    How does 8 bank robberies happen in 15 states?

    • @oneshothunter9877
      @oneshothunter9877 3 місяці тому +5

      That one had me wondering, too.
      Like, tf..? 😀

    • @m8s4lif
      @m8s4lif 3 місяці тому +2

      That is a good point. I must admit that what he said just went right over my head. I'm glad that you pointed that out. It gave me something else to chuckle about.

    • @Paladin1873
      @Paladin1873 3 місяці тому +3

      AI storytelling?

    • @davidroman1654
      @davidroman1654 3 місяці тому +4

      @@Paladin1873 Also "number of recorded deaths" between 10,000 and 30,000. If they were "Recorded" then there is a real number not a range of 20,000.

    • @mikeguilmette776
      @mikeguilmette776 2 місяці тому +1

      It could be rather literal - that the bandits traveled across a total of 15 states but only ended up robbing eight banks . . .

  • @thomasallen3818
    @thomasallen3818 4 місяці тому +42

    Most of the pistols carried in towns were pocket pistols, since most towns had ordinances against carrying guns in their city limits.

    • @enigma9971
      @enigma9971 4 місяці тому +7

      Even then they sought to infringe upon the 2nd amendment lol

    • @ChristophBrinkmann
      @ChristophBrinkmann 4 місяці тому +11

      ​@enigma9971 Nope. The second amendment is for the government to call up people a form a militia in the case of invasion. We don't do that now because we have a full time military now.
      Also, even if your incorrect interpretation of the second amendment was correct, every right we do have has legal limits.

    • @mikeseier4449
      @mikeseier4449 4 місяці тому

      @@ChristophBrinkmannResearch before you make an idiotic statement

    • @musicman201047
      @musicman201047 4 місяці тому

      ​@@ChristophBrinkmannSpoken like a true china joke idjit drone who hates America,the Constitution. You are totally off the mark on 2A. You need to reacquaint yourself with the Constitution, especially the Second Amendment. The Second Amendment CLEARLY states, "the right OF THE PEOPLE to keep and bear arms". MEANING CIVILIANS, china joke drone.

    • @musicman201047
      @musicman201047 4 місяці тому +3

      ​@@enigma9971Yep.

  • @michaeldaltonsr8954
    @michaeldaltonsr8954 4 місяці тому +3

    A rather good assessment!! My gr-gr-grandpa carried a 1889 Iver Johnson .32 revolver( pocket pistol; which no one ever seen/knew of, except Granny Lucy, his wife! On the other hand, @6ft 7 inches, he was a helluva fighter/knife fighter( 18 men, which he pulled jail time for cutting them) He used a wagon+ team horses usually/only occasionally horseback. 12 ga double bbl was his tool of choice( food/defense/warning) And, yes, he wore "slouch hat(picture). He died of "consumption" @ 68 y.o. in bed.

    • @VidarLund-k5q
      @VidarLund-k5q 4 місяці тому +2

      Iver Johnsen was a Norwegian immigrant, born in Bergen in 1841. His company also produced bicycles and motorcycles.

    • @michaeldaltonsr8954
      @michaeldaltonsr8954 4 місяці тому

      @@VidarLund-k5q Cool! His patents, I believe are now owned by Colt( their Group, whoever is controlling now) Colt collabrated w/IJ in late '80's to make the "Mustang", aka "Pocket Pony". Wanted one, just couldn't stretch my $$!!

  • @lint8391
    @lint8391 2 місяці тому +1

    Myth 1 is like mosquitoes killed more American soldiers in the Pacific than the Japanese did.
    Diseases kill.

  • @davidbreen4353
    @davidbreen4353 4 місяці тому +19

    i'll take this as an opinion video. i have read and watched a lot of video's from historians that contradict some of this. the series, 100 pictures of the old west is a good visual source.

  • @robertcourtemanche9185
    @robertcourtemanche9185 4 місяці тому +4

    My favorite show was the Rifleman. Rifles make a hell of a lot of sense.

    • @thenaturalmidsouth9536
      @thenaturalmidsouth9536 3 місяці тому +1

      Loved that show as a kid. Chuck Connors played major league baseball AND in the NBA. Johnny Crawford acted in movies and was also a singer and became a bandleader later, he died just a few years ago. Paul Fix was a great longtime character actor, was John Wayne's acting coach, and his daughter married Harry Carey, Jr. I still like watching the show just to see all the famous guest stars who played on it.

  • @helbent4
    @helbent4 4 місяці тому +7

    8. Bounty hunters were like freelance law enforcement officers, able to pursue any bounty they liked for any crime and bring 'em back dead or alive. In fact they were like they are now: primarily engaged in apprehending bail jumpers. Actual bounty hunters did exist: US Marshals, County Sheriffs, town Marshals, deputies of all the above, Texas Rangers, and other sworn law enforcement agents. A ridiculous example of a fictional bounty hunter is "Dutch" Schultz from the movie "Django Unchained". He's more like a freelance hit man. He's not law enforcement but a random private citizen. He kills every one of his bounties, by ambush, sniping, or otherwise catching them unawares. Never shooting them in self-defence or in the act of fleeing. None are returned for trial or incarceration, all his bounties are brought in dead. Compare this to either film version of "True Grit". Rooster Cogburn is a US Deputy Marshal, and apprehends criminals for bounties. He often brings them in alive but the fact he often doesn't is used against him in court. And he specifically claims all those he does shoot are done in self-defence or to prevent them fleeing.

  • @godzilloid
    @godzilloid 4 місяці тому +9

    Somewhere in Texas, a cowboy screams,

    • @TheRealRedAce
      @TheRealRedAce 4 місяці тому +1

      In Texas, you can't hear yourself scream.....

    • @neilkurzman4907
      @neilkurzman4907 4 місяці тому

      I suppose an urban cowboy would

  • @johnmorganti9760
    @johnmorganti9760 3 місяці тому +1

    “Cowboys are an American invention”. And then you go on to say that they came from South America
    , which makes them undeniably an American invention. You do know that the United States is NOT all of America?

  • @dalehood1846
    @dalehood1846 3 місяці тому +2

    Exactly, Vacqueros were the first for that lifestyle.

  • @jamesvandemark2086
    @jamesvandemark2086 4 місяці тому +8

    Cowboy is translated from the Spanish term vaquero! They started the practice LONG ago.

  • @jeffreyrobinson3555
    @jeffreyrobinson3555 4 місяці тому +17

    Number of colts then later Remingtons sold west contradicts your point, unless you had a few people buying hundreds of guns.
    That marble of lead from a cap and ball was moving 900 feet per second and would go through a man at fifty yards.
    Most of what we think of as old west, 1866-1910 cartridge guns were common and while illegal in many towns, you would have been hard pressed to find a single adult male unarmed outside of the city limits

    • @jonathangriffiths2499
      @jonathangriffiths2499 4 місяці тому

      They would have had to sell millions of revolvers , they didn’t

    • @jeffreyrobinson3555
      @jeffreyrobinson3555 4 місяці тому +3

      @@jonathangriffiths2499 colt, smith and Wesson, Allen and Thurber, Schofield , Winchester (yes they made pistols) sold tons, not to mention tons left over from the civil war, and don’t forget horse pistols and ‘Kentucky pistols’ derringers, sawn off shotguns in to pistol length.
      The Steam ship Arabia sunk in 1859 and its cargo was recovered in the 1990s. In 1859 there was a steamship per day making cargo runs up the Missouri River, and Arabia’s cargo was typical
      She had three 120 gal barrels full of boot pistols

    • @jeffreyrobinson3555
      @jeffreyrobinson3555 4 місяці тому +4

      @@jonathangriffiths2499 remember that in 1880 there were only about seven million people in the ‘old west’ about 2/3 woman and children, two to three million adult males
      Colt would produce half a million 1873 alone during the 1880s
      Some sold to the army and some sold east, but easily one for every ten adult men in the ‘west’ of just that model.
      Similar for the colt 51 navy and the various similar models

    • @neilkurzman4907
      @neilkurzman4907 4 місяці тому +1

      1910 doesn’t really make it old west does it
      So you do agree that for most of the countries history banning carrying of guns in Towns and cities was normal. Keep that mind when complaining that gun laws are only recent.

    • @jeffreyrobinson3555
      @jeffreyrobinson3555 4 місяці тому +4

      @@neilkurzman4907 I don’t know when we can say the ‘old west’ ended. Certainly as late as the 1920s people were living the “old west life’ even up to the 30s.
      If we take the 1890s as being the end that is ok but doesn’t change my point.
      Historic analogues to modern gun control according to SCOTUS has to go back to the founding, not a century later. And no such laws existed at Americas founding
      They were unconstitutional in 1870 as they are now, just as separate but equal was unconstitutional even though practiced for almost a century

  • @danielinthewolvesden
    @danielinthewolvesden 3 місяці тому +6

    Okay, this is bullshit. No, cowboys didnt wear bowlers- except when they got a pro Photographer to do a pic. Yes, the classic Stetson didnt come along until later in the perdio, but if you look at period photos of cowboys or texas rangers etc our working they wore wide brim felt hats- sometimes called 'wideawake" hates. This myth comes from one writer who did find that the classic Steson was a late development, and saw photos of the Wild Bunch etc wearing bowlers. Teddy Roosevelt when he was out in the west wrote that someone had a bowler hat and everyone made fun of him, and ridiculed him, knocked it off his head, etc. Mark Twain writes about his "wideawake" hat- not a bowler. The James Gang alone robbed over 20 banks- so one gang, more than twice the ridiculous 8 quoted here. (Wideawake hat- because the felt had no "nap" get it?)

    • @asinglemaleinuk
      @asinglemaleinuk 3 місяці тому

      Someone doesn’t like the reality 😂

    • @thenaturalmidsouth9536
      @thenaturalmidsouth9536 3 місяці тому +1

      The James Gang got almost obliterated by the townspeople of Northfield, Minnesota. They attempted the robbery due to it being a "yankee" bank and the gang were pro-confederates.

    • @danielinthewolvesden
      @danielinthewolvesden 3 місяці тому +2

      @@thenaturalmidsouth9536 Yep, but they robbed a lot of banks prior to that

  • @libertylady1952
    @libertylady1952 4 місяці тому +9

    Recently, I have been reading first hand accounts of the old west and my reading supports what you are saying.

  • @snoman003
    @snoman003 4 місяці тому +10

    I call BS on the revolvers of that time "burning your hand" I have a cap and ball revolver (1851 colt navy) and the most I have ever suffered is a vary slight burn from a cap fragment after firing, which is easily ignored.

    • @ChristophBrinkmann
      @ChristophBrinkmann 4 місяці тому

      Yup, surely your own personal experience is true for thousands and thousands of people. Must be true!

    • @petergrhill
      @petergrhill 4 місяці тому +3

      I shot a .44 cap and ball revolver, and have never burnt my hand. Have had a chain fire once shotting blanks, but i did not seal the chamber correctly.

    • @Adui13
      @Adui13 4 місяці тому +7

      That has been my experience, and the experience of every person Ive ever discussed cap and ball revolvers with. No burn unless you do something dumb (Like put your hand / finger near the gap between the cylinder and the barrel, which BTW will get you hurt with a modern revolver too)

    • @neilkurzman4907
      @neilkurzman4907 4 місяці тому

      You personally burned your hand. But dispute whether people burn their hands.

    • @johngardner2807
      @johngardner2807 3 місяці тому

      TheAdams revolver ,would,indeed burn your hand,...they also "chainfired(more than one round going off)" a lot,because the timing pawls,and locks would wear quickly,and they were built to very loose tolerances.
      Any cap and ball revolver could chain fire,if the loader didn't get all the powder brushed off,after seating the charge.

  • @tzeffsmainchannel
    @tzeffsmainchannel 4 місяці тому +4

    What I think of the video? *The AI narrator is TOO OBVIOUS!* 😜😁

    • @5stardave
      @5stardave 2 місяці тому

      I always wonder if a 10 year old made these videos?

  • @MervynPartin
    @MervynPartin 3 місяці тому +1

    Movies show the hero shooting hundreds of shots at the baddies with their six-gun. Of course this is completely false- It would be no more than a dozen shots out of a six-gun before reloading. 🤔

  • @skynightokc2811
    @skynightokc2811 4 місяці тому +1

    As it was so well quoted, "...if the truth conflicts with Legeng, print the Legend." Thank you for this video, I however, will view Marshall Dillon the same way again.😢

  • @Drescher1984
    @Drescher1984 4 місяці тому +3

    No one landed at Plymouth Rock, this is a myth too

    • @kenwalker687
      @kenwalker687 3 місяці тому

      So where did they land & what is your source? OK, the internet agrees with you, so it must be true.

  • @theonetruerobb4852
    @theonetruerobb4852 4 місяці тому +4

    You have a whole chapter on the Bowler hat, but don't include a shot of Lord Bowler?
    The Orb is affecting your judgement...

  • @funjuror
    @funjuror 4 місяці тому +1

    The bank robberies were my biggest surprise.

  • @georgemorgan794
    @georgemorgan794 3 місяці тому +3

    Well, if misinformation is accounted as fact then this video is incredible! However actual accounts gathered from city, county and state records give the lie to most of this video.

  • @billm4108
    @billm4108 3 місяці тому

    Also, Michael did not row the boat “ashore” . He left it about 30 feet out, and waded from there. But he saw a men watching hum and shouted, “Hey you! As far as you’re concerned, I rowed that boat ashore!” The guy said, “Yeah, sure. Whatever.” So that’s how that story got started.

  • @jmichna1
    @jmichna1 3 місяці тому +2

    Debunking videos always interest me, and provide new prospectives. I just wish the debunkers would provide references sources for their debunking claims... Where do they get THEIR information. Would be nice to see this info in the video's notes, or even within the video. Without knowing the sources/references how do we determine accuracy?

  • @dennisanderson3895
    @dennisanderson3895 4 місяці тому +2

    "Vaqueros" became Anglicized as "buckeroos."

    • @joelellis7035
      @joelellis7035 4 місяці тому +3

      The castilian pronunciation of the "V" sounds like the anglicized "B". Learned this in Spanish class. So "Baqueros" to "Buckaroo" seems plausible.

  • @iamTheSnark
    @iamTheSnark 3 місяці тому

    I think I saw that the bowler hat was quite expensive, but it was also a sort of safety hat.

  • @DieselMcBadass1
    @DieselMcBadass1 3 місяці тому +1

    There were a lot of guns carried in the old west. But most were civil war surplus cap and ball guns. Caring a single action army or a Schofield was flexing on the poors. They were mostly for on the trail to deal with wild animals though, far more dangerous than other people for the majority of people. You will often see pictures of saddle holsters and scabbards instead of on the belt carry.

  • @paparoysworkshop
    @paparoysworkshop 2 місяці тому +1

    Western movies are not about history, they're about entertainment. 😁

  • @jimjolly4560
    @jimjolly4560 4 місяці тому +5

    I thought cowboys carried handguns either to shoot stampeding cattle, or in a dire emergency their horse. I wish I could remember where I heard this!

    • @trollonwiggins
      @trollonwiggins 4 місяці тому +1

      Cowboys riding the range rarely carried holstered six shooters as the rope they used for roping cattle could become tangled in the gun

    • @TheRealRedAce
      @TheRealRedAce 4 місяці тому +1

      There weren't a huge number of cowboys! There were a lot more miners , for example.

    • @robertclark972
      @robertclark972 3 місяці тому

      Either large animal ,out of control ,or badly injured could be very dangerous or deadly to anything around them . The .45 colt could make a one shot kill ,with luck . That explains a lot of it's popularity .

    • @robertclark972
      @robertclark972 3 місяці тому

      ​@@trollonwiggins - The John Wayne position ,behind the hip , keeps it more out of the way . The drop down fast draw type was born with TV westerns .

  • @aspiceronni4462
    @aspiceronni4462 4 місяці тому +1

    You can tell the thumbnail for this vid is AI because old boy doesn't have a 6 shooter.

  • @richardking3206
    @richardking3206 4 місяці тому +6

    Films perpetrated these myths for dramatic purposes. Where’s the excitement in no-one having guns? Or arresting bank robbers as they leave the bank?

  • @docsavage8640
    @docsavage8640 4 місяці тому +4

    "Native Americans"? That's anyone born in America. Also, you're lying.

  • @SRBrown9032
    @SRBrown9032 3 місяці тому +1

    I just wish we taught more real history and civics in school. Instead we ban books for children that don't fit our fantastic views.

  • @ricklane1693
    @ricklane1693 Місяць тому

    The actual term "Cowboys" was borne during the Revolutionary War. Americans could not fight the british in the open, so they fought more of a gorilla style war including taking cowbells into the woods and clanging them when the Redcoat lines marched down a trail. The starving British Officers would send a detail into the woods to grab the lost cow, BUT...the "Cowboys" got them :)

  • @willieholmes1483
    @willieholmes1483 4 місяці тому

    I was thinking it was going to be the “gaucho” that inspired the cowboy.

  •  3 місяці тому +2

    Really liked that you inculded clips from Bud Spencer and Terence Hill movies. More people should watch them and know them :)

  • @guyh.4553
    @guyh.4553 2 місяці тому

    Like I commented on @Mattnoble80-s comment, the portraited battles never happened the way they happened or even were written down happened. Also, that pistol you remarked about wasn't used nearly as much as you said. They were the Navy 1861 & the Army 1861 and they were from the Civil War. For the longest time they were black powder until smokeless came to be. Then those revolvers had the conversion kit on that allowed the buckaroo to use the shells. And also regarding pistols. The average range rider carried a pistol on his hip all the time. It wasn't because of range wars, its because they used them to turn cattle back around when they stampeded. They also were used to shoot small game for the cook to use

  • @blueduck5589
    @blueduck5589 4 місяці тому +1

    They were called gunmen, shootists and pistoleers not gunfighters.

  • @MuskratOutdoors
    @MuskratOutdoors 3 місяці тому +1

    The gun part is only half true. Cartridge revolvers were around by 1873, probably earlier.

  • @MichaelRoberts-t7c
    @MichaelRoberts-t7c 3 місяці тому

    The large mirror behind the bar was in place so patrons could see behind them to aboid being shot in the back. There were no stools to sit on at the bar ad it would be difficult to draw a pistol when seated.

  • @FASmith-qd1yj
    @FASmith-qd1yj 4 місяці тому +9

    By the time of the OK Corral, it was meatal cartridges not cap and ball. If you put your hand over the gap between the cylinder and the barrel, you'll burn your hand. If you know what how to handle a pistol you will not do that. That's your problem isn't you know nothing about guns.

  • @user-lz8wb6th2u
    @user-lz8wb6th2u 3 місяці тому +5

    Again another A.I. CREATED video of opinions mixed with a little truth.

  • @mrblitzer8705
    @mrblitzer8705 4 місяці тому +12

    Please stop using AI voices. Ask a friend.

  • @andrewvelonis5940
    @andrewvelonis5940 3 місяці тому

    The term "cowboy" itself underwent changes over time. In Revolutionary times, boys handled the cows that belonged to to the Army. Obviously, without refrigeration, the cows needed to be kept alive until eaten. Then, in the Western Expansion, derilicts and roustabouts who were looked down upon were called cowboys as an insult, the implication being that they were good for nothing other than the work being done by boys. Gradually, the term was used for anyone who worked cattle.

  • @brucewelty7684
    @brucewelty7684 2 місяці тому

    The first myth is that the Red me were "native". They were just as invasive as the Europeans. Just a few centuries earlier.

  • @deanaltman6841
    @deanaltman6841 4 місяці тому +1

    How was there 8 bank robberies in 15 states? Are you trying to say there was an average of 8 per state? Bowler hats were very popular among men who worked in town or men that didn’t spend hrs upon hrs out in the sun. Bankers, business men, gamblers, law men, etc. Basically anyone that didn’t spend all day in the sun. For cowboys out working cattle all day they did not wear a bowler hat, they wore a hat with a wide brim to keep the sun, rain, etc, off their face and neck. The ”cowboys” first used sombreros just like the vaqueros they learned from before they sort of transitioned away from them to more of a modernish cowboy hat style although it’s not what hats look like today.
    In an unrelated note, to be called a cowboy was derogatory in the real early days.

  • @artursandwich1974
    @artursandwich1974 4 місяці тому +2

    What about Comanche wars and the raid of San Antonio?

  • @paulsteven4551
    @paulsteven4551 4 місяці тому

    "you want a shotgun, its got a good spread" Bill Burr

  • @patrickporter6536
    @patrickporter6536 4 місяці тому

    Oh the mythical Kowboy Kulcha! 😂

  • @spencersawottke8528
    @spencersawottke8528 3 місяці тому +2

    Sorry, but saying “before the pilgrims” and then “Mexicans” is so grossly ignorant to what came first it’s not even funny.

  • @thomfiel
    @thomfiel 4 місяці тому +3

    Gun control did not begin in the 1990s. Many old Western towns had restrictions on guns.

  • @ericvantassell6809
    @ericvantassell6809 3 місяці тому +1

    stewpit click bait title.they don't know what you believe. Don't fall for it. Click away before 30 seconds to help the channel improve

  • @shooterqqqq
    @shooterqqqq 4 місяці тому +7

    All of your information about handguns is wrong. The gunfight on Fremont Street was caused by the constant death threats by the Clantons. The gang was waiting outside Doc Holiday's boarding house and not near a corral. It's easy enough to look at the sales of each firearms manufacturer to see how heavily armed the country was. It also includes the surplus firearms left from our wars.

    • @neilkurzman4907
      @neilkurzman4907 4 місяці тому

      Funny everything I read about the OK corral says you don’t know what you’re talking about. What’s your reference?

    • @shooterqqqq
      @shooterqqqq 4 місяці тому +3

      @@neilkurzman4907 I suppose you think it was at the OK corral and not at Haywood's lot where he had stored lumber. That the Clantons never made death threats or one was waiting with a rifle to ambush the Earps. And Doc wasn't living in Fly's boarding house on the second floor?

  • @mikesaunders4775
    @mikesaunders4775 4 місяці тому +7

    Not sure I believe all of this, the hats ,yes. The madams ,yes. But the lack of guns?.

    • @trynsurviven2440
      @trynsurviven2440 4 місяці тому +2

      I’m sure there wasn’t a lack of guns available but rather a lack of money to buy them. I’m also willing to consider the fact a lot of people moving from the east didn’t feel the need to own a firearm especially those from the northeast.

    • @kirkstinson7316
      @kirkstinson7316 4 місяці тому +5

      ​@@trynsurviven2440
      I'd doubt that. If anything I'd expect them to hear that you need one Incase of indian attack or thieves

    • @cdjhyoung
      @cdjhyoung 4 місяці тому +3

      @@kirkstinson7316 But as the author points out, Indian attacks were rare. A gun was expensive, and for someone moving west, perhaps not the first tool they would purchase.

    • @michaelwills1926
      @michaelwills1926 4 місяці тому +1

      @@kirkstinson7316I’d be prepared to deal with the possibility that all of history as we know it is false, perhaps a smidge of fact but loads of embellishment to say the very least.

    • @007Chancellor
      @007Chancellor 4 місяці тому +2

      @@cdjhyoung The author is wrong. Just read the historical accounts of the Apaches in AZ to see that Indian attacks were NOT rare.

  • @maddhatter3564
    @maddhatter3564 4 місяці тому

    I know of no one that believe these "myths" hell i didnt even hear of a few of them , I suspect the producer is the only one that believed it.

  • @steveschainost7590
    @steveschainost7590 3 місяці тому

    Why not use actual period photographs to illustrate your points rather than Hollywood movie clips? Particularly for the hats.

  • @timzimmerman1399
    @timzimmerman1399 4 місяці тому +2

    I think you're a little off the numbers of the pistols

  • @jardam9466
    @jardam9466 2 місяці тому

    Technically cowboy or vaqueros originated in medieval Spain not Mexiko.

  • @glennso47
    @glennso47 2 місяці тому

    Some of the most famous people in the old west were from Iowa.

  • @shaggybreeks
    @shaggybreeks 3 місяці тому

    SHOCKING! BRUTAL! QUACK!

  • @jaeeproductions
    @jaeeproductions 4 місяці тому +1

    This is fake news. Why? "Cowboy" the name/term, came from the word "Boy"...which evolved into Cowboy...in its finalized version. Boy and Cowboy were racial slurs aimed ay cattlemen who were Black. No one else was called a Cowboy at that time. It was the Old West version of the N-word. Over the years, the name/term and the culture of the Cowboy became popular...and suddenly everyone wanted to be known as a Cowboy...and books, magazines, newspapers, movies, radio shows, and TV shows began to depict Cowboys as being White. Blacks were erased. Even "The Lone Ranger" is based on a very real Black man.
    The Mexicans, known as Vaqueros, were cattlemen - yes. Did they do the same job as Cowboys, or even pioneer the then new class of cattle herder? No one is disputing that fact - however, the name Cowboy was exclusively created and exclusively used as a racial slur and description aimed at Black cattlemen by White cattle foremen/overseers, and White cattlemen.

  • @jwilburn4712
    @jwilburn4712 4 місяці тому +2

    What about the Colt .45 "Peacekeeper"????

    • @stephencivic1989
      @stephencivic1989 4 місяці тому +4

      Peacekeeping is what it does. Peacemaker is what it is called.

    • @007Chancellor
      @007Chancellor 4 місяці тому +1

      Exactly. The Colt, the Remington and others were wildly popular. Especailly in the latter half of the century. The 1873 Colt, dubbed the Peacemaker, was an all-American symbol of rugged independence.

    • @stephencivic1989
      @stephencivic1989 4 місяці тому

      @@007Chancellor I’m a S&W man myself. But gotta give credit where credit is due. The Peacemaker was the Honda Civic or Glock of the West.

    • @johngardner2807
      @johngardner2807 3 місяці тому +1

      @@stephencivic1989 The S&W .44Russian was actually popular,too.

    • @stephencivic1989
      @stephencivic1989 3 місяці тому

      @@johngardner2807 I am not familiar with the .44Russian. Granted compared to the vastness, there is on caliber and types of guns. My knowledge is very primitive in that regard

  • @glennso47
    @glennso47 2 місяці тому

    Like the sheriff who was the star of Blazing Saddles? He was black. 😅

  • @Rusterman-is7ex
    @Rusterman-is7ex 3 місяці тому

    Incident lyrics we have no way of knowing if any of these claims and numbers are true or not. We weren't there.

  • @robertaylor9218
    @robertaylor9218 4 місяці тому +3

    “Myth 6: they say that prostitutes were poor, but in reality pimps were rich, and many were former prostitutes.”
    What a garbage take.

  • @trollonwiggins
    @trollonwiggins 4 місяці тому +2

    I wish Hollywood would learn about the old west....almost every western, especially TV westerns, drive me up the wall because of all the stuff they get wrong. Good job on the video, especially about the hats, my number one beef with westerns

    • @patrickporter1864
      @patrickporter1864 2 місяці тому

      John Wayne in the com'ancheros was set in the early 1840s. Yet he carries a colt 1873 and a winchester of the same vintage and so did everyone else. Was he a time traveller. Why not give him an ar15.

  • @frequentlycynical642
    @frequentlycynical642 4 місяці тому +1

    Vaqueros lacked fashionista. It too Americans to create a style that is universally admired and used by both sexes!

  • @dm55
    @dm55 3 місяці тому +1

    Don't include everyone with these so called myths.

  • @hagerty1952
    @hagerty1952 3 місяці тому

    So the Old West was populated solely by Clint Eastwood?

  • @ToastSoon4808
    @ToastSoon4808 3 місяці тому

    O no! Are you telling me "They call me Trinity" is not based on fact and real events. There goes my admiration of the old spaghetti westerns. Even more shocking is the hosting of card games in brothels.....disgusting. 😏

  • @Janetsfear
    @Janetsfear 4 місяці тому

    Something tells me the Adams was not exactly "typical." Typical technology yes, but no where near the numbers of the 1851 cap and ball Colt. Not to mention the 1873 but much of the "settling" was done by then.

  • @markdicristofaro904
    @markdicristofaro904 4 місяці тому

    I find it amazing how people would rather lie about the truth. Who knows exactly how much history is remotely accurate? LOL.

  • @barrybarlowe5640
    @barrybarlowe5640 Місяць тому

    most of the statements match my own studies. The hand guns... Not so much. Effective range - yes. The Adams revolver was a pretty poor example for a revolver. The ones used in the civil war were uniformly better, and when the cartridge handguns from Colt became available, the reliability and speed of loading made Colt famous and popular.
    One point - most of the Plains Indians at the Battle of Little Bighorn had repeating rifles, unlike Custer's troops. They also had revolvers. While the incidents of violence between settlers and natives was rare, partly it was because a lot of it was simply unreported. Native tribesmen would often slip in to murder settlers where they could be isolated, and settlers, stung by hostility from Natives would when the chance arose, retaliate - even if they had no idea what tribe had harmed them to begin with.

  • @jimparsons6803
    @jimparsons6803 4 місяці тому +2

    Oddly cartridges or bullets were relatively expensive for those folks during those times. Fighting with your fists was probably more likely. Not everyone could afford a horse or a ride on a stage, they generally walked from here to there.

  • @drdavidtee
    @drdavidtee 3 місяці тому +1

    sorry but very doubtful especially without verififable and credible evidence

  • @EndingSimple
    @EndingSimple 3 місяці тому +1

    One other myth I heard was about the duel in the middle of the street. I heard that the mostly like encounter was that of sticking close to a wall, knees bent , and fanning the hammer of a pistol, sort of uzi style, while trying not to expose yourself too much.

  • @BobSmith-dk8nw
    @BobSmith-dk8nw 4 місяці тому +8

    I wouldn't believe any of this.
    Was the Old West like 1950's TV Westerns? Well of course not.
    One thing about the Indians is it seems to deal with them and the settlers moving west - not the ranchers and home steaders. Migrants tended to travel inn Wagon Trains made up of a relatively large number of organized, armed people. Indian War parties preferred to pick on smaller groups that were isolated from others.
    Some specific incidents have been well covered but your smaller isolated incidents have not.
    Any statistics dealing with the Old West would be questionable at best.
    .

  • @michaelwright-tu6qb
    @michaelwright-tu6qb 3 місяці тому

    The item is pronounced Shaps, not Chaps.

  • @TheBslep
    @TheBslep 4 місяці тому +2

    I think you're full of crap about the guns used