Is this THE ENPHASE KILLER?? Hoymiles Microinverter HMS-2000C - 2000 Watts 4 in 1
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- Опубліковано 5 лип 2024
- Hoymiles Microinverter HMS-2000C - 2000 Watts input - MOST POWERFUL Microinverter on the market? 2000 Watt Microinverter. The Hoymiles HMS-2000C microinverter can be paired with panels up to 640 watts. Max peak output of 1918 Watts.
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Timeline:
00:00 Intro
01:14 HMS-2000C Microinverter
01:37 Trunk Cable
06:31 HMS-2000C Stats
07:04 DTU
08:38 Hoymiles
09:27 Final Thoughts
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You can now buy Hoymiles microinverters directly from the Hoymiles store on Amazon: amzn.to/3uBfn9W
Good to know there are other options out there for microinverters. A lot of good information on this video 👍🏼
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching and commenting. 👍
Finally my man introduces some new fellow in the house. Can’t wait seeing more competitors to compete with Enphase in NA
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I love this thing. Currently using 9 of them for my fence made out of solar panels. For roof pv I went with a string inverter as shading aint a big thing there.
Do you use the S-Miles app? I am exploring the idea of using them myself. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻
Posiadam dwa HMS 800W 2T z 4 panelami Jasolar 420 Wp i dziennie produkują około 6 kW/h. Jestem bardzo zadowolony :)
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I have 2 of these Micro Inverters in my garden. I love them and the price is really good.
What size array/panels do you have in your garden?
@@JustinsProject I have 4 old panels 275wp in vertical position screwed against my fence facing south And 4 x 400wp on top of my garden shed.
wish I had known about these earlier. I use those WVC-1200's and have had problems with them failing over time. I like these because they have the cooling vents.
I am leaning towards Hoymiles for my next system.
Great to see more competition. Always better for the consumer. The DTU has a 3 year warranty. Envoy and combiner box are 5 year warranty. I find it interesting that MI's tout 25 year warranty and customers talk about that. But, they do not mention the 5 year warranty on the other components.
Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻
Perfect timing, Im planning out my 2nd array and I was just discussing with a coworker how disappointing it is that enphase output really hasnt improved much
I am planning on my ground mount array so I am looking into all alternatives. So far, Hoymiles looks very competitive.
@@JustinsProject Im trying to find out if these need a Combiner box. Their version of the Envoy seems to just communicate with wirelwss communication and the unit just lives in the house ( from what I can see so far). Being able to eliminate the expesive combiner box / envoy would be nice. Im seriously considering this for my next system
One pitfall about buying on Amazon…you can’t get an end user account for the hoymiles app. Don’t know if this is a show stopper to use the hoymiles inverter. I bought an inverter using the link and now I don’t know if I can activate it. What to do.
Thank you for the content. Your research helps in not re inventing the wheel.
So have you compared these to those sounds like mfase eight brand?
Enphase biggest IQ8H's max production at 384 watts. Hoymiles rating is right 479 watts production per panel. For everyone looking at 450-550 watt panels, your max production will come from Hoymiles. IQ8's provide that sunpower backup, though, so that is nice. I would like to see both manufacturers offering an off-grid solution. Where grid tie was not required on microinverters. Then things would get very interesting. I'm not convinced it's the lack of technology more than red tape politics. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻
I am going to have to cancell my inverter order. Amazon is blocking me from contacting the seller and according to hoymiles the seller has to create an hoymiles s-miles cloud end user account . Not going to wait until I get the inverter to find out I can’t activate it with out the a-miles account. More info is needed on this process if we are going to promote this product while at the same time Amazon blocks contact to the seller. How would warranty work. What a mess cancelling now.
Hi, I like your videos.
I have a quick question, is it possible to limit the power feeding into the grid in these micro inverters.
I heard power limiting options are available
I am not aware of this function. I am curious why someone would want to limit the back feeding output to the grid though? Especially on a net metering agreement.
great valuable video, thanks. One question, what is the difference of HMS-2000"C" with the HMS-2000 ?
One difference that I found is that the C version on the HMS quad microinverters holds the UL 1741 cert, and there is no mention of that on the version without the c. I know the C version is approved for use in the United States because of that UL listing. Hopefully, that helps you out. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻
Great videos, Justin! I’ve been watching the heck out of your channel. But the thing I can’t figure out is how to get an account to start up either Enphase or Hoymiles micro inverters. Both require an installer app, but don’t explain how to get an account to use it. I download the app and I can’t get past the sign in page. Could you help me understand the process to get an account please?
I signed up as an installer even though I was installing my own system. Technically, I am an installer if I am installing it LOL! Both Hoymiles and Enphase have installer apps that are separate from their homeowners app.
@@JustinsProject Thanks. I was able to call Aptos yesterday and set up an installer account over the phone. I wanted to set up an account so I could check out the installer app and make sure I could start these up without a problem before I spent thousands of dollars on whichever brand of micro inverters I go with in the end.
I’m guessing Enphase and Hoymiles simply require a phone call too to set up an installer account. I’ve gotten so used to companies refusing to engage in human-to-human interaction over the phone that I thought I was for sure missing something when I couldn’t just do it on their website or over the app. Now that I succeeded with Aptos and the guy talked to was so helpful, I’ll probably end up going with them. Their dual 400Wx2 micro looks like a heck of a value and pretty darn simple. I’d love to hear your opinion on them and maybe a video on their micros someday if you get a chance. If you’re taking requests….😁
Thanks for your great content! You do a excellent job of explaining things in the detail that DIY folks who aren’t full-fledged electricians can understand and need.
Hi, must the grid available for this micro inverter work? Cannot work if you are off Grid?
That is what the manufacturer recommends.
Are these like some other micro inverters that when grid power is lost they automatically shut down out put so they arent backfeeding the grid?
Yes. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻
Hi Justin, how about build a system with hybrid scheme with micro inverters?
Can you provide the information of what you are suggesting? Much appreciated 🙏
Do you suggest to put the inverters elsewhere under shade or just leave it under board. Worried about the performance after sometime
They are designed to be installed directly under the pv panels. That's how I will install them when I build my next solar array. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻
Can I ask what if I put two solar panels in series to equal one connector 500w. So that will be 8 solar panels in total to equal 2000w. Would that be ok or it may do damage. Can you give me advice? Thanks.
It should be fine but be careful with the voltage rise when connecting in series. That could be a problem.
In Datasheet I see "Commonly used module power (W) 400 to 670+" but on some sites and in your description I see "up to 640W" why? It's very important for me since I have Risen 670W panel :)
I'm more than sure it will work but... is it realistic to get 2000 watts long-term and with what temperature...
In that situation, I would refer to that max output of the 1918w total. /4 that is roughly 480w (479.5) per panel. From there, you should determine the real-life output of your 670w panels. If you can find the PTC rating, it is much better than following the STC rating. My rule of thumb (not perfect) is 90% of the STC. So, for a 670w panel, realistically on a perfect day, good tilt, and so on, you would produce somewhere around 600w on those. Must quality panels degrade roughly 1% the first year and 0.5% each year after. Those are just rough estimates, but should help you determine whether these microinverters are right for you or not. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻
I am planning to use this micro, but I am in a budget, so I can afford the microinverter and 2 solar modules for now, do you know if this micro can work with only 2 solar modules or it needs the 4 to operate properly?
It can, but I would recommend the 2 panel version (dual over the quad) if you only have 2 panels. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻
Do these have any type of CT connection? With the Enphase you've got CT connectors and power export limitation. If these don't have CT's... then I guess you just export the extra by default without really monitoring it? Nice to have some competition, and the company has a nice product line up.. I see Aptos rebrands these as their own as well. But, I feel like they might be lacking in a few areas compared to Enphase.
I am working on building a complete Hoymiles system. In those upcoming videos, I think I will answer a lot of questions that most have about these microinverters and how they function compared to my Enphase system.
@@JustinsProjectlooking forward to it, just starting to build my small array.. so I have been deciding between Enphase or something else. It’s come down to the EG4 18kpv or IQ8s, and have considered Hoymiles. I would consider the 6000xp off-grid, but do not have the means to do a transfer switch for off-grid without significant rewiring. All in all, my build is coming down to $5000 DIY with FTC, vs $15000 - $25000 with an installer. Amazing how much DIY can save, thank you for promoting it and helping others learn.
Im having a hard time finding a price...nevermind, found it..500 canadian?!? Thats insane. This thing is a game changer. Only problem is it seems out of stock everywhere, which doesnt surprise me. Ill be watching closely for re-stocking
I called and spoke to the Hoymiles crew directly. They were very helpful and responsive. They also knew who had what stock. Great team and have good things in their future product line.
@@mattgirgenti3595 Im starting to dig deeper myself. With Enphase, I have the communication module for the Micro Inverters in the combiner box. Does Hoymiles use something similar?
I hope Hoymiles opens up more distribution in North America with these microinverters. They are hard to find in stock right now. Good luck. I personally might be trying them out on my next build. We shall see.
@@mattgirgenti3595 I agree, everyone I have spoken with over at Hoymiles was very helpful.
@@JustinsProject YahI cant find them in stock anywhere at the moment.
Does this require the dtu to function or will it work without internet
It does not require the dtu to work. However, to monitor the system and track everything, it would. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻
Can you add lfp battery to this inverter?
Not directly, it would need to be converted back to DC
I’m curious about its reliability. Also another Chinese inverter is doing an 8 panels 1 inverter.
Chinese though? No thanks
The warranty information shows - 25 Years Standard (for the US) - 12 Years Standard (for Canada) They are backing them with a great warranty.
@@JustinsProject True true, good point
Hi is working off grid ?
I have not hooked it up as an off grid. I do believe it needs a grid connection to operate, though. So the manufacturer says. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻
Any idea where I can buy those?
If you're in 🇺🇸 then there are distributors that sell them. Currently a little difficult to get since they are sold out at most places. Hopefully, they become easier to get because I do believe it's a great microinverter. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻
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I did not DIY my system and I regret that. I was actually sold a "7.2kW" system. They installed 7.2kW of panels and 6kW of inverters. Then they continue to argue that I have a 7.2kW system.
So, I was thinking about replacing the microinverters myself in order to reap the rest of the mid-day energy that I currently don't get.
Thanks again for the videos you share.
are we able to connect this micro on a home outlet?
My last reply on my Vevor micro inverter video. This one would not work like that. It's a 220v microinverter. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻
Why could y you use a BC05-BR3M-02 to connect a single inverter to a 240v outlet? Should be the same as how folks are connecting a 120v version to a 120v outlet. Just curious.
Dude we show every new hire your videos, we would hire you in a second, when there is a opening. We skewer the web for your kind of videos.
Much appreciated 🙏 Plans are to be bringing you guys a lot more solar related content. If you haven’t already, have everyone register on the DIY Solar Builds community I am building out. www.diysolarbuilds.com Thanks for the support, watching, and commenting 👍🏻
hoymiles HMS-2000C, No hoymiles micro inverter on your preferred site. where is best site to source?
www.hoymiles.com/product/microinverter/hms-1600c-1800c-2000c-4t-na/ - Product link. As of right now, you gotta purchase them through approved distributors. From the looks of it, they are gaining popularity because they are sold out on most sites I find them on. I will see if I can find a direct channel to purchase them and share it if I do. I love the trunk cables, and supposedly, they have created a new product coming soon that can save an install up to 70% more time. I'm interested in seeing that for sure.
@@JustinsProject thank you for the update. Keep us posted.
Would you install this over an Enphase iq8?
How micro is that
It is a lot smaller then 4 single mircoinverters. So not too bad actually. Thanks for watching and commenting. 👍