Early Stages of Congestive Heart Failure (CHF)
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2019
- Dr. Lera talks about the early stages of congestive heart failure with Bella, a thirteen-year-old Chihuahua. He also talks about treatment, including the different drugs that may be used for it.
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Thank you… I’m paying a big bill not to keep my dog ALIVE but to make her comfortable and have a good QUALITY of life… I’m doing these tests and medicine so she’s not suffering…
Thank you again Doctor
Thank you again for making these videos. I think my dog either has CHF or has had it a while, and we just didn't realize. But, I hope we can get in to Doggie Doctor tomorrow and have her looked at better.
My 14yr old shihtzu has enlarged heart as well. He’s on lasix, after doing the ecg X-ray and blood wrk. The blood wrk came back excellent but the cardiologist did recommend a medicine to help open the air way so he won’t cough as much. But I love my lil guy so I’m just glad I’m able to provide and take care of him to the best of my ability. But he’s doing good he has the most energy for his age and I’m happy tht he’s happy
We are very happy to hear that you & your dog are happy and that you are able to take good care of him. We wish you both the best!
Heron Lakes Animal Hospital thank you
So how long can dogs live with enlarged hearts mine has it and he’s now on medication but he won’t eat and he’s on a steroid but it’s not helping much Anyways I’m just wondering if he can live with an enlarged heart as long as he’s on medicine ?
There is a cure for that problem.. Please answer 😢
Toyo77 7 No there’s no cure just treatment to help your dog have a better life or at least have some what of normal life again sometimes it doesn’t work 🙁
Thank you for making these videos! I'm in a basic veterinary assistant class & I chose CHF as a topic for a project I'm doing, and these have helped lots and lots when doing my research!
I hope Bella is continuing to thrive :)
Thank you so much for watching and your feedback. We wish you the best for your project!
We took our 15-year-old chihuahua to Emergency because he had fainted and was having difficulty breathing. They put him in oxygen tank and they thought he was in CHF. They gave him Lasix. Turns out no evidence of CHF so discontinued the Lasix but he did have pulmonary hypertension, not sure what the underlying cause is. He is now on sildenafil every 8 hours... very scary time. Haven't investigated further as the emergency bill really set us back. I really hope we have more time with him. (I am worried again because I noticed him coughing more).
Not everyone has the ridiculous amounts of money to treat CHF in elderly dogs. The testing and office visit fees are astronomical.
We completely understand you. That why we always recommend getting pet insurance.
Yeah pet insurance with a 5k deductible 🙃
Thank you for the video. I just had to put my 14-year-old Chihuahua to sleep the day after Christmas as she suddenly went into congestive heart failure and was violently gasping for air. It was so sudden and so traumatic.
I lost my little furgirl to congestive heart failure...still feeling the pain of losing the most beautiful, special little old girl. She was so loving and loved every day of the nearly 4 years I was mom to her. She was just shy of her 13th birthday
So sorry for your loss 😢 I know only to well your pain. I'm going through a similar thing now 14 year old male chihuahua sending you love and blessings Susan Sussex UK 💙
@@hazeldenny6304 Thank you so much. My heart is so broken. Not long after losing my baby girl, my Mom also passed away. Definitely been rough.
@@susancollins6805 Thank you so very much. I'm broken without my little one... and then losing my Mom right after.
@@puddysue praying for you - what a double hit. Rev 21:3, 4, Luke 20:37, 38. My furbaby is in CHF now.
My Chihuahua has a stage 5 heart murmur and pancreatitis. I rescued her about 6 months ago.
I've been to 3 different vets and emergency, spending over $3000. The vets got their money, but I still have a sick little Sweet dog. The medications are so hard to give her, and she doesn't eat much.
I am 73 years old, and live on a small social security. I feel so helpless and bad for her. She is only 6 years old. I am with her 24/7, and try to make her life as comfortable as possible. The vet says there are other tests they can do, possibly surgery, but I don't have the money. I pray she will be ok, or at least have some semblance of quality of life. I love her very much, and know many other people are going through difficult times with their fur babies.
God Bless
I know how you feel. For 1,5 years I've been spending so much money on tests. In the end doctors couldn't find anything but my dog was sick and started having seizures. She passed away 5 months ago at the age of 11,5. I took all my money to these doctors.
If I were you I would take her back to the rescue. That's really hard but your financial situation prevents you from taking care of her, although you love her very much.
@@downtown82 Thank you so much for your heart felt response.
I am so sorry your beloved pet passed away, and was not helped by doctors...who still took your money. I appreciate your honesty in gently suggesting I return my pet, as I know, realistically, she will only get worse, and I will have to watch her suffer. I feel like I am caring for a helpless, invalid child...then realize I am as helpless as she is. God Bless.
@@terrybear5398 Do you have any updates on how your pet is doing? I'm sorry for your situation. I'm dealing with my trying to figure out what is wrong with my dog too.
@@PoeLemic Bless your heart, Poe Lemic! Thank you for reaching out. My little Baibe is holding her own, right now. Maybe because she is only 6 years old, and I make her the best homemade food, am with her 24/7, give her CBD oil, and did the Vetmed, until they ran out. She still coughs, in morning and periodically during the day. All in all, we take it one day at a time. There is a great You Tube vet, Dr. Andrew Jones. I have learned so much from him, and saved myself money and stress. How are things going with you?
@@terrybear5398how is your dog doing today?
I just lost my baby yesterday to heart failure... she had just turned 15, my little angel chihuahua. I did not even get to be there because my mom was taking care of her while I finish my degree abroad. I was supposed to come home in just two months. I thought we had more time... her coughing started in August... in hindsight I would have quit my program to be there! If your baby is diagnosed, take the six months seriously. I wish I could go back in time, I will never forgive myself.
Please forgive yourself my friend. Your dog wouldn't want that . Your mum was there which was a good thing . I'm afraid there's sadly never enough time ! I'm going through something like this at the moment with my 14 year old chihuahua. I know only to well your pain. Sending you a big hug and rest assured you will one day see them again. love and blessings blessings Susan Sussex UK 💙 xx
😢awwwww I’m so sorry
It’s not your fault!Your dog knows u loved her!Things happen beyond our control!🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
I think I’m going through this right now. I’ll be taking my dog to the doctor soon. They told about 3-4 months ago heart mumur and he was already coughing but this month he has been coughing more like gasping for air. I’m very scared because he has been my only pet I’ve had and the thought of loosing my first dog ever and never seeing him again frightens me. The Medicaid bills also scare me as I’m only a college student and work part time. I feel miserable and I want to do what’s best for him
Bella is adorable!
Please tell me the names of all the drugs you gave her. Thank you so much for this video!
My 12 year old chihuahua was diagnosed with this a month ago. He is on furosemide and sildenafil. He was perfectly fine in September. Then we traveled for month and a half to Europe and the coughing started when we came back in November. We live at a high in altitude place (2400 meters above sea level) but that was not a problem before. Could the fact of coming back to a high altitude after being around 1200 meters above sea level affect him? Would he be better if we moved to a closer to sea level place?
Thank you for the video...
I have a question I a toy chihuahua name Chucho he started coughing a while back I tooked him to 3 different vet until I finally got a diagnosis he has chronic bronchitis disease which I think could of been prevented because I tooked him as soon he started coughing anyway is so bad past few days that the medication is not working plus his liver # are high and I'm really worried. He hardly eating anything I need to play around with his food and see what he can make him eat. I already taken him to the emergency vet hospital and I can't keep taking him there to keep getting the same response.
Thanks again
Lez
Hi doctor my 12 yr old Yorkie was at the ER on Tuesday because he was having difficulty breathing and green discharge from eyes , the vet said the x rays show possibly enlarged heart and chronic bronchitis but when he breaths it sounds like pooping sounds on his lungs and it scares me , vet didn’t say he has fluid , but what can it be ? I’m very scare and I don’t have a lot of money to take him back until next Friday , he is eating and I can tell he is doing better each day but why do his lungs feel so tender and make pooping sounds
My dog (25kg mutt) has stage 2 kidney failure (hiss creatine and BUN are under control now) and is 12 years old, the vet said that the heart valves have become weaker and is a irreversible damage. he has give me some supplements for heart called VenCard which contains 0.9 mg of magnesium as it's oxide in it i give 2 tablets per day (1-0-1). When he sleeps i do see irregular heart beat and heavy breathing in him. Anything i could do to help his situation ?
I wrote on your other video as well. What causes the sneezing? My dog coughs, but since starting the lasix it’s like he has gotten more nasal and sneezing.
I would wonder if an older Doxie has an oral nasal fistula which is causing the sneezing.
Can you discuss diet & exercise recommendations for dogs in CHF?
Good question i fed my blue buffalo dog kibble and think it played a part of her getting it
I really like this video.
I had a chihuahua that had CHF we caught it just on time and she continued to have excellent quality of life for years. It was a bit expensive for me but it was worth it. But there was that time that I had to make that call.
So if you catch it early that's good otherwise with out the medications they are suffering.
CHF for dogs is just like it is for humans, dog are a part of the family.
The only thing I didn't like about this video is about the compound. It's hard to get, there not a lot of places that can make it. And if it has to get mailed to you, well think about it, the way the mail is these days bcuz of COVID you might not get it on time.
So IDK why the compound was even mentioned.
The medications are very easy to give either liquid or pill form.
Thank you for this video
Hello, my 12 y/o chihuahua was diagnosed with cardiomyopathy, Her name is LOLA.
The Vet told me that my dog has a little large heart and She need an exam (echocardiogram) but its too expensive ($650) + other treatment. I have not money. I already expended $300 for the Vet visit. Can you tell please what medicine you gave to your dog?...... in this video the Doc said some names @0:58 ..... but where I can buy it? PLEASE HELP.
@@r.c.850
Hi
The medications need to be prescribed by the vet.
The meds I got for my chihuahua was Lasix, VetMedin and a high blood pressure medication.
I caught it some what early but she lived 3 yrs on the medications.
I spent about 100.00 a month around there.
I would not spend all that money to do an echocardiogram especially if your chihuahua is 12 yrs you don't want to put her through that.
I'm guessing she got an
X ray that showed her enlarged heart.
Remember, vets know we love our pets and we would do anything for them so they do try to take advantage of that.
I would just ask the vet about the medication and see how she does with that if possible.
I know it's a tough Decision, im sure she had a good happy life with you. Think about her and her quality of life.
Keep her calm & love her
I hope this helps.
@@r.c.850
Oh BTW You can't just buy the meds because you need to know what dose to give her.
So every month you just pick up at the Vet.
Like I said to keep her calm like not to run around a lot and not get over heated.
Also, watch her diet don't over feed her.
keep in mind Dogs do get heart attacks.
So if she's just coughing & coughing a lot then that's when you need to do what's best for her.
But don't do the echo, its really not necessary unless you want to.
Maybe you can apply for care credit🤷♀️
@@gwenscott206 Thank you for your replay. But already asked the Vet for any medication, and they told me, without the echocardiogram, they don't know what medication to give. I am still looking for more information around here.
I found some supplement and vitamin that can help my dog. I will try to get the medication some how. I already expended $300 for Vet visit, x-ray and blood test. was hart day for me today. but She is doing little better, she is sleeping now after dinner. Thank you again my friend.
I sometimes have a problem giving my Chihuahua his meds, until I bought a bag of Pill Pockets!! These "treats" really make it simple to get my dog to take his pills, all 4 of them, in one shot!! Try those... Total game changer for me and his sitter! 🙂
I don’t know if my dog has heart failure but he had all the signs. Cough and heavy breathing. I have bright him in several times and they keep saying his heart is normal beats . I do not know what to do should I have a second opinion? I counted his breaths at test it between 45 to 55 a minut
I have an important question? Is a heart murmur A single Heart Diesese or is a Heart murmur connect to all heart Dieseses? Also can a Dog have Heart problems but no Murmur? ... because my angel had a Very Dry cough like a sick Throat cough , had Episodes of passing out in my arm , then came other Different episodes like Seizures types but I also read that Syncope look like Seizures , but one lady doctor said she heard no heart murmur .but other Different doctors Said 100% heart Diesese base on my baby passing out!?
A heart murmur is a result of something going on with the heart. It is not connected to all heart disease. So yes a dog can have cardiovascular disease without having a heart murmur. You are correct that I would wonder about potential syncope going on with said dog.
@@DrLera oh really , Because I'm very Depressed and going threw so much Pain .. my little Angel was always Healthy , suddenly ivdd happen in 15 days was Paralyze June I got on Prednisone June 10 Symptoms Started slowly June 16 my little Angel passed out like I thought I loss her that's how bad it was. June 23 Physical therapist Records she had ... Harsh lung sounds / Tachycardic 190 .. and I really appreciate your help you have No idea how much ..
Hello, my 12 y/o chihuahua was diagnosed with cardiomyopathy, Her name is LOLA.
The Vet told me that my dog has an enlarged heart and She need an exam (echocardiogram) but its too expensive ($650) + other treatment. I have not money. I already expended $300 for the Vet visit. Some one can please tell me what medicine I can give to my dog?...... in this video the Doctor said some names @0:58 ..... but where I can buy it? PLEASE HELP.
My little dog is suffering with heavy breathing today. I don't know what to do.
You can ask your vet or get a second opinion from another vet which would be willing to fill the meds. The only thing is you would most likely need to sign a waiver releasing the veterinarian from any responsibility since they would be guessing what they are treating instead of being able to do the tests and determine what is going on and then more precisely treat the condition.
Hi Doctor.. thank for nice vedio about CHF . Which type of drug can be use in this disease?
It depends on what is causing the heart disease. This is why it is important to have the ultrasound done of the heart to make sure we are treating as accurately as possible
Hi! My dog was diagnosed with an enlarged heart and the doctors told me he is between stage A and stage B. He does not have any symptoms, he is 9 years old, he gets tired when going out on long walks so in the past year we've been going out for short walks-15-20 mins. But when the weather is not hot he doesn't even start panting. At home he is playful, wants to play catch and he rests and sleeps a lot. He has a good life with minimum stress.
So the doctors told me we should start a little treatment just in case. 1 month ago we started Vetmedin 5mg. I give him one half in the morning and the other half in the evening. My question is what should I expect in the future? How much time does he have and is there a possibility that he stays in stage B for a really long time?
We dont know how much time they have. What we do know is they seem to live about 1.5 to 2 yrs longer then they would have if they were not placed on vet medin at this stage
@@DrLera Thank you!
@@montecervino7821 Hello, How is your dog doing?
My dog doesn’t cough at all but has a 4 heart murmur
@@tsnodl Hi from my other profile.😃 My dog is okay, still not coughing or panting which is great. I give him his medicine every day and he is doing good for now.
Thanks for asking!
Can i ask all of you about the cough?
My 11 year schnauzer mix started to cough only when she gets up from sleep and stands up. She coughs 4 times then gags. We wentbto her vet and he said allergies, dont worry about it.
Months later it got more frequent but same pattern, only after she had been sleepy on her side. I was worried so i went to another vet who has biggerr office, more equiptment. She said was beginning of enlarged heart. She gave 2 medications, both to reduce blood pressure but they made her sleep more.
Is this cough what you saw in your dogs with heart failure? Other people say it sounds like a collapsed trachea.
Hi..i am from Romania and i made to my precious girl(chihuaha/pekingese) a scan..and the heart is enlarged....blood test ok...the doctor says is serios...she is just 1 year old,i am so scared, no other simptomes
So, my dog has these syncope like passing out episodes every day, every time he runs, or gets excited, or goes up steps sometimes it’s worse than others, but usually he just slows down gets wobbly tries to keep going starts tripping over his legs will run into things if I help him lay down he’ll sometimes roll over n like wiggle n Bob his head or try to stand back up I f it’s like a really calm rally early morning he might make it outside and back without passing out, but he’ll be panting he’s only like 5 a chihuahua mix of some sort so it really confuses me I’ve been taking him to a vet for a while they are aware of this and have seen a video and think it could be this I just don’t have the money to pay thousands for mris n everything else, n he’s been traumatized and starved and people give him so much anxiety that putting him through all that just makes me worry about his heart I hate even having to take him to the vet or bath him, he’s ONLY LIKE 5 I’m so worried about him I just want him to be happy n comfortable n just able to be a dog
my dog to anytime he does anything sleightly exerting . I will pray for you my puppy is going through the same thing.
My dog is going thru this and d coughing more and more and I gave him coconut oil 😢…. He is getting worse overnight and I’m so scared I can’t afford what he needs. I’m going to wait to the morning for a vet appointment but I’m scared that they will want to run test and do more that I can’t afford.😢. I don’t want to take him in for him to pass
If you don't have the money to do the tests, then they will have to do what's called empirical therapy. It's trial and error until they find which medications work the best. You're going to have to sign a release the releases the animal hospital for many potential complications as a result of maybe mistreating the dog since they don't know what they're treating. They're just going to be guessing
I’m sorry 😢😢🙏🏾My dog sick too with heart failure ,we just took her in and couldn’t afford it but we got her some medication !Its hard!We love them like family!😢😢😢
Hi Dr, I have a 12 year old Yorkshire terrier who just got diagnosed with stage 3 heart murmur. He is on Vetmedin and furosemide currently. He is dry coughing from time to time. Is there anything I can do to help with his cough? Im not sure if the meds are making him cough more or what. Thank you
The medications should not be making him cough more if anything they should be making him cough less. If he is not responding to those medications with reduced symptoms then you will either need to try treatment for potential lung infection or look into further testing or follow-up testing such as x-rays or ultrasound of the heart. That way you'd be able to figure out more precisely what's going on and treat with a higher chance of success
My Boston terrier is 10 and she has been coughing a lot but it sounds like the same cough that she would do every once in a while even years ago because she has a pushed in face and these breeds can have Trachea issues so idk if she has a collapsed trachea or CHF she is still eating good and runs around outside and right at this moment I can’t afford all the testing :( vets want the money right up front and it’s so expensive with inflation and having kids and trying to keep up on bills and our mortgage has been tough so I been trying to watch videos to see what a dogs sound like with CHF vs Trachea issue
Did it end up being allergies trachea or heart?
Hi! Is there any way I can contact you and ask you some questions about my pet through an email?
You can look at setting up a consultation by contacting my office if you would like.
Hello my Yorkie has CHF are we able to get his teeth cleaned 🫶🏼
Hi Dr Lera,
Just sending a msg through to find out how Bella is going with her medications? Is she doing well?
Bella is doing great. Thanks for asking.
Heron Lakes Animal Hospital any updates?
My 12 year old chihuahua was just diagnosed with CHF and an enlarged heart today. I am beside myself with this heartbreaking news. They prescribed him furosemide and pimobendan. I know every dog is different, but is this a fast progressing illness or can he live for years to come? I’m too scared to google!
On average dogs will live 6 months from the time of diagnosis. I would if you manage the condition very aggressively that you would be more likely to go beyond the average depending on what is causing the chf
My dog had all those things heart murmur congestive heart failure, they put her on meds come to find out she had a enlarged heart and bad kidneys so the meds wernt gonna do any good ,she also looked terrible on the meds I gave her for a few weeks, it was so sad she still tried to be playful and loving like she always did 😢 my dog was 14 yrs old she was suffering so I had her put to sleep my little precious millie ,I think about her everyday ❤
@@yolandaperez7009 Im so sorry for your loss!!! There has to be a better solution to these issues then just drugs. This is way too common in pets and I wonder why. My sweey Iggy puppy is 14 and level 5 heart murmur. We started meds today. :(
I'm sorry. My chihuahua lived 12 months after diagnosis of CHF. She was on vetmedin and furosemide 2x daily for one year. She was doing great, just peeing more frequently due to the meds. Then one day out of nowhere she had a terrible time breathing and the rest is heartbreaking. 😢
I am afraid my puppy has been coughing more and more he sometimes has episodes where he collapses and loses consciousnes for a minute he whines out , the after a moment he comes to . we just dont have the money as we have 2 other dogs and 2 other cats , and all of the other dogs have coughs as well .but he is the only one who has been seen and given medications . my mothers in the hospital she had heart surgery yesterday. I jsut don't know what to do I cant handle the stress of watching my dog struggle like this. has anyone else been in such a hopless situation , and if so what did you do?
I'm here because today my 7 year old Chihuahua I noticed her heart is beating too fast and it sounds like squeaking kind of like a rubber pump it doesn't sound right going to the vet tomorrow
Hi doctor! My dog is currently on pemobendan and hydrocodone( for the cough). She has an enlarged heart, but still coughs often. Is there anyway for the cough to go away?
You have to find the cause. Then you would be able to get an answer as to whether the cough can be resolved. That would most likely requiring testing
Hydrocodone for the cough??? If he goes off of it is he going to go through withdrawal now? How sad. I hate doctors giving that stuff out for pain, but for a cough, wow, sad.
I’m so confused because my dog has a heart murmur level 4 and he has 0 symptoms for heart failure. The only issue is has is high blood pressure and these strange seizures. Some vets told me it wasn’t a seizure and some told me it was. It lasts for a min and he gets right up and acts absolutely normal.
My dog does that but it’s his enlarged heart pressing up on his trachea and cutting the airway off. It’s a syncope episode. He always pops right back up like nothing happened. It’s so weird.
Oh wow! My Italian greyhound also has an enlarged heard and level 5 heart murmur. She's been having weird tremors (I thought were seizers too) for 1.5 years now. No vet seems to care or think its important. Today I had to arm wrestle to even get medicine for for her heart. She's been coughing and choking lately. I hope your puppy gets the right medicine and help. God bless!
@@KatErina-ii6ru unfortunately we put him down. He kept having the episodes, but the main issue was he would throw up all his food after one.
@@Sam-fg9lf Oh I’m truly sorry!! Now he’s at peace and very happy. The throwing up sounds like heart failure. Sorry for your loss 🐶🌹 It’s so hard when they get older 🥲💕
I have my dog 8 years old and just notice he hasCHF 😭😭😭😭 I am so sad I don’t want lose my dog 😩please help me 🙏🙏🙏my dog is taking 4 medications now 10 days .after 4 days he has check up. He is doing well right now and no bad symptoms only once a day he is caughing a while
I am really ready to do everything for him to extend his life 😩 if it is possible to buy best medications with best results I will do ..even foods for CHF dogs I can not find here in my country BAHRAIN…can you please let me know wich foods are good for him I will buy online too..,anyone here has a dog with CHF did something for him to live more please help😩😩😩😩😩
my dog is 11 yrs old..he has been coughing more at night and when he lays down. i put a pillow underneath his head.i am worried he has heart failure..willt ake him to a vet on monday
What did they say? This is what’s happening to my older dog right now
Can you please list the medications Bella takes?
Thats also what im looking for.. What meds
@@BrittneyM7777 He mentioned Lasix & Enalapril, but the other 3 he mentioned that have a funny pronunciation is what I would like to know too.
Hi can you please help my dog is suffering a lot and breathing really bad and fast? How can I help her????
This could be due to a wide variety of reasons. We strongly recommend taking her to the vet asap to figure out the root of the problem through x-rays and/or other diagnostic tests.
@@DrLera we barley made it to the vet but they suggested to put her down so unfortunately she is no longer with us. But I still appreciate that you could reply.
And hope that my baby girl is happy where ever she is.❤️🙏🏼
@@mel7760 We're very sorry to hear that. We understand how difficult it is. She's definitely in a better place now without suffering. Sending you virtual hugs from all of our family!
@@DrLera thank 🙏🏼 you. ❤️
My dog Brownie has dignosis of slightly heart enlarge, has been taken Vetmedin 1.25mg since Nov 2019, recently I found his breathing become heavy, coughing at times but no serious, what should I do?
Go back to the vet to reevaluate his heart. Most likely will need to do blood work, ultrasound, blood pressure, and x-rays if going by the book potentially. Then the cardiologist will make some suggestions based on what they find.
@@DrLera I’m
Thanks for your promot reply! I will consult the vet ! Thanks!
@@juliemytang9406 any update?
My Friends Saint Bernard is now just 10 Months old and, She is suffering with Enlarged Heart disease, is there any permanent cure for this or will she have to go through the throughout her life??
Enlarged heart can be caused by a number of different things. It would be best to consult with a veterinary cardiologist to determine the puppies prognosis and what can and should be done.
@@DrLera we did But I don't think they could give us a solution..
That doesn't make sense really. I would be curious if it was a veterinary cardiologist who read the ultrasound
@@DrLera Can I have your E mail ID plz??
@@DrLera Can I have your E mail ID plz??
Whats the cost? I can barely afford my own medications. Can anyone ballpark it for me?
Three out of the four three out of the four heart medications are generic unless your dog is small and needs the drugs compounded they are fairly inexpensive. The one medication that is expensive is primobendon otherwise known as vetmedin
Is it safe to give my cat furosemide and penobim for enlarged heart she's 17 and I worry il damage her kidneys...I don't know which disease will develop faster
those drugs are to safe use in cats. they are drugs that are normally used for patient in CHF. If you don't help the heart pump better by giving those drugs, then that will lead to decreased blood to vital organs like the kidneys, causing kidney damage. So the short answer is, those drugs are fine to give to patients in CHF(assuming the xrays and echocardiogram on agreement) and you could cause kidney failure to develop faster if you don't give those drugs
@@DrLera the cardiologist said her heart and left left ventricular pumping are miled..dialated cardiopathy...she's not technically in heart failure...should I only give her those drugs if she gets to heart failure or is better to use as a preventative?
My dog has an enlarged heart. He used to have occasional excessive drooling, but now has it almost DAILY! We are assuming it is related to the heart condition, but are unsure. At first we thought maybe it was an allergy and gave him Benadryl, to no avail. Any thoughts or suggestions?
Hi dear thats not a good sign my dog had a heart murmur was put on vetmidin, Spirolatin and Benzapril and all of that didnt help as we feel it did him worse. He started drooling heavily and has been coughing pretty bad and 8 weeks on this medication and he passed away on Tuesday the 31st. 😢
@@vic7 Awww, I’m so sorry! It’s hard to lose our furbabies!
We’re thinking it’s congestive heart failure on this guy! Sadly, he’s “on his last leg” and our time with him is limited, so he is being EXTRA spoiled!
Why us heavy drugs instead of natural meds. I was told by a vet that Q10 doesn't help a dog with heart problems or dandelion. That my dog needs test on his heart. But what she didn't know that they said he had a 4th degree heart murmur. Funny it was two years after me cooking him low sodium diet and Q10 and dandelion his murmur didn't change. I question vet medicine
As medical doctors we have to make recommendations based on what there is data available to support our treatment. I am more than happy to take a look at the data if there is data available regarding the effectiveness and safety of using said natural treatments for the safety of the heart. If patients are stable and clients are patient then we have more flexibility in the different treatments we can try. For example last week one of my clients told me that pumpkin seeds could be used as an anti parasitic treatment. I checked the literature and there was some data that said that it did have antiparasitic effects but even the alternative medicine veterinarian did not recommend it as a first line for treatment of parasites. So we just have to be aware of when and where to use different things. I think it's important to keep an open mind and to happen open flow of communication
Its a dang shame and a crime that only dogs of wealthy owners get the help and meds they need. Absolutely heartbreaking how many dogs suffer because the owners can't afford the OUTRAGEOUS vet bills. We all stand before God when we die and give an account of our lives. 😢
i know. i went to the vet today and it was as if i was being asked to pay up or else my dog would die.
@@anqiien this VERY thing happened to me! 2 pitbulls chewed through my fence to attack my chihuahua and the emergency hospital wouldn't even start treatment until I PRE PAID. I could only afford basic so they didn't even stitch or glue him up (needed) but just irrigated wounds. Infuriating that he had horrible care because I was vet money poor. They encourage us to adopt but then the financial responsibilities really are overwhelming sometimes. There has to be a better way so our fur babies get the care they deserve. Im sorry this happened to you.
Why not use natural remedies like dandelion, hawthorn or Young at heart.
I am haven't heard of treating heart failure with these remedies. But I will research them and see what the data says. A lot of time if you have patient in crisis you will need traditional medication and then you may be able to manage the disease once stable with natural remedies. But i need to see what the data says before i can make any recommendations for the natural remedies.
My beagle was at stage 4 heart murmur. I begin to give him Q10 and Young at heart. He began to cough. But I give him dandelion and Q10. He doing better. He on a low sodium diet
My vet said natural remedies do not work, but my dog doing better since he been on natural remedies
Quality of lifr means hey your dog is dying