I'm actually working on creating a detailed timeline running through every piece of media that takes place in this one year (and four days) timespan and organizing every event chronologically! It's interesting how impactful small details can be in the specific order of things (Wedge Antilles just about broke apart the whole thing because of his leg)
I prefer the Legends fall of the Galactic Empire, especially after the fuckery of what led up to The Rise of Skywalker. I mean, atleast in Legends much of the Factions created after the fall made sense within Universe and there was no new faction with infinite resources without reason (First Order).
I'll give the new Canon props for actually concluding the Galactic Civil War a year after the Battle of Endor versus how it took another 15 years for the Galactic Civil War to end in Legends. The way the new Canon handled it, it made the Battle of Endor feel more impactful.
The long and drawn out battle made MUCH more sense. The rebellion was large, but not large enough to mop up the absolute massive imperial military in a year. It would have been a much more drawn out battle...
The Warlord era in legends make far more sense. The Empire was a massive galactic government with an enormous military. The films imply the majority of the Rebel Fleet was at Endor, enough to destroy a Death Star under construction and strike a symbolic blow in maybe killing Palpatine but absolutely in no state to re-conquer the galaxy in 1 year. Its absurd. Things like Operation Cinder are also beyond stupid and make no sense for Imperials to do. Ambitious commanders are not going to burn resources to satisfy the whims of a dead Emperor. Disney put zero thought in
@@phoenixrising4573 yes they were small but dont forget the empire was designed to fall when Palpatine died, between Operation Cynder and the way that only imcompetent officials or power hungry ones were left while most capable ones where either killed or left in useless assigments
15 years are you sure about that? I read ALL the expanded universe novels from Truce at Bakura up to half way through the Yuzhan Vong story and the Timothy Zahn trilogy with Thrawn start off 5 years after the end of ROTJ and the New Republic has had control of Coruscant for at least 2 years at that point and the Empire has been shoved off into a corner of the galaxy called the Imperial Remnant from which Thrawn comes out of the shadows. The Thrawn trilogy is what finishes off the Empire for whatever real threat it might be. I put the real end of the civil war about 6-7 years after ROTJ.
This is very interesting. We learned something new. Nice historic events and timeline. Thanks for this😊There's no fixing Empire remnants😀Battle of Jakku is my favorite😀Have a great day too
I just hope Disney doesn’t mess up the whole thing they got going with Thrawn right now looks okay but who really knows it’s Disney by the way can’t wait for the Theory wave stream tonight it’s going to be awesome
Hated how the end of the galactic Civil War ended in a year. Even though the emperor died, the imperial war machine was still very large and cumbersome it would’ve taken years to bring about a defeat even if the empire fractured into warlords and broke up into seceding territories the Empire at its height had 25,000 star destroyers and countless other types of support craft. Defeating it in a year would be impossible since the rebellion had so few ships. It took a mauling after Endor and the empire still could’ve beaten the rebel Fleet, even if the death star was destroyed the only thing that stopped the empire from finishing off the rebel fleet was the fact the officers were too busy fighting amongst themselves
There’s such a major hole in the new Republic Lore as everything we’ve seen so far from the D+ shows just raises the question, where is Luke, Han and Leia? How do we get these scene of the new Republic council without Leia or all this activity of the remnant without Luke being more involved. It’s like they don’t exists and it’s only Dave Feloni’s characters from Clone Wars and Rebel’s looking after the Galaxy. It’s just not right. I miss George’s Star Wars.
I mean I'm their defense, it's hard to show them being "younger" in shows of them being old or dead (Leia). Unless you're going to do a lot of CGI for the show; which is not really practical long term. Now Han being a bit older would still work for the time around that the mandalorian takes place
Hey Stupendous love your videos man keep it up, could you some day make a video about Ganner Rhysode and his absolutely amazing last stand in Traitor? May the Force be with you
This was a chaotic last year for the empire.The empire, in ledgends and the OT wre frightening.If the empire, had picked a keader , to replace palpatine i would give them a Chance.
if they make thrawn anything like he was in legends he will either suceed or get extremly close to winning. the only reason he lost was that he was assasinated by his own bodyguard when they learned about the empires betrail. he WAS winning the last battle and the republic was about to loose their last substantial fleet that had the majority of their remaining ships when it happend.
Lack of food generally leads to revolt; good to see the Empire was at least consistent in their stupidity sans Palpatine (not that he was much smarter).... Obtaining power requires a completely different skill set than wielding power -- and having one doesn't guarantee you'll be proficient in the other.
How to speak for everyone at this moment when I say that nobody wants to talk about how The empire started or ended. They want to know about the empire.
Oh, FFS!! You DON'T speak for everyone when you say that "no one wants to see this thing or that," the beginning or the end of ANYTHING on this particular channel or any other channel except, of course, for your OWN channel. Oh, what's that you say? You're not going to build your own channel? Well, of course not!! You're just going to sit back and let others actually do the "creative work" and you, as "the voice of the community" will lurk in the comments and criticise all that they create, you coward!!
Mr wave, can you do a video about how the sith viewed strong force users who were not jedi or sith? could someone who was a strong force user and who isn't evil but neutral and able to sell services as a mercenary or bounty hunter ?
Would say legends and canon could have done better. Canon events are unrealistic because 1 year to replace the second largest empire (Infinite Empire = 1) is not logical when under 10 percent of the fleet was at Endor. Legends is better but not perfect, it’s too long
I'm just going to go ahead and say anything that was created to go along with Disney's narrative is not canon. For me the civil war was basically ended with the end of Timothy Zahns Thrawn Trilogy as he lead the IMPERIAL REMNANT to try and retake Coruscant and is defeated by the end, and thats 5 years or a tad more after ROTJ. After that point in the EU timeline the Remnant doesn't come to play very much.
Thrawn, heir to the empire: what was first just a dream has become a frightening reality, for those who may oppose us Also thrawn: but... It was artistically done...
You know that in the ROTJ victory scene on Coruscant, you can see the crowds tossing around a poor stormtrooper.
Oh no! "Stormtrooper Salad!!" 🤣
I'm actually working on creating a detailed timeline running through every piece of media that takes place in this one year (and four days) timespan and organizing every event chronologically! It's interesting how impactful small details can be in the specific order of things (Wedge Antilles just about broke apart the whole thing because of his leg)
Grand Admiral Thrawn is an awesome character
9:45 me and the boys
The Battle Of Jakku was an absolute massacre. The Imperials had absolutely no chance at that point.
"Not impressive!!" 🤣
More on this please 🙏🏿 this was an amazing story
I prefer the Legends fall of the Galactic Empire, especially after the fuckery of what led up to The Rise of Skywalker. I mean, atleast in Legends much of the Factions created after the fall made sense within Universe and there was no new faction with infinite resources without reason (First Order).
Agreed
I agree with you
The pictures in your video are so cool. I love to see so much of the empire and stormtroopers.
Just watched the Theory Wave podcast. Love your vulnerability when talking about relationships. You were heard bro.
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I'll give the new Canon props for actually concluding the Galactic Civil War a year after the Battle of Endor versus how it took another 15 years for the Galactic Civil War to end in Legends. The way the new Canon handled it, it made the Battle of Endor feel more impactful.
The long and drawn out battle made MUCH more sense. The rebellion was large, but not large enough to mop up the absolute massive imperial military in a year. It would have been a much more drawn out battle...
The Warlord era in legends make far more sense. The Empire was a massive galactic government with an enormous military. The films imply the majority of the Rebel Fleet was at Endor, enough to destroy a Death Star under construction and strike a symbolic blow in maybe killing Palpatine but absolutely in no state to re-conquer the galaxy in 1 year. Its absurd. Things like Operation Cinder are also beyond stupid and make no sense for Imperials to do. Ambitious commanders are not going to burn resources to satisfy the whims of a dead Emperor. Disney put zero thought in
And then the "Somehow come back" spell is implemented making most of Endor battle pointless either way :(
@@phoenixrising4573 yes they were small but dont forget the empire was designed to fall when Palpatine died, between Operation Cynder and the way that only imcompetent officials or power hungry ones were left while most capable ones where either killed or left in useless assigments
15 years are you sure about that? I read ALL the expanded universe novels from Truce at Bakura up to half way through the Yuzhan Vong story and the Timothy Zahn trilogy with Thrawn start off 5 years after the end of ROTJ and the New Republic has had control of Coruscant for at least 2 years at that point and the Empire has been shoved off into a corner of the galaxy called the Imperial Remnant from which Thrawn comes out of the shadows. The Thrawn trilogy is what finishes off the Empire for whatever real threat it might be. I put the real end of the civil war about 6-7 years after ROTJ.
This is very interesting. We learned something new. Nice historic events and timeline. Thanks for this😊There's no fixing Empire remnants😀Battle of Jakku is my favorite😀Have a great day too
I just hope Disney doesn’t mess up the whole thing they got going with Thrawn right now looks okay but who really knows it’s Disney by the way can’t wait for the Theory wave stream tonight it’s going to be awesome
Hated how the end of the galactic Civil War ended in a year. Even though the emperor died, the imperial war machine was still very large and cumbersome it would’ve taken years to bring about a defeat even if the empire fractured into warlords and broke up into seceding territories the Empire at its height had 25,000 star destroyers and countless other types of support craft. Defeating it in a year would be impossible since the rebellion had so few ships. It took a mauling after Endor and the empire still could’ve beaten the rebel Fleet, even if the death star was destroyed the only thing that stopped the empire from finishing off the rebel fleet was the fact the officers were too busy fighting amongst themselves
Let’s goooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!❤
There’s such a major hole in the new Republic Lore as everything we’ve seen so far from the D+ shows just raises the question, where is Luke, Han and Leia? How do we get these scene of the new Republic council without Leia or all this activity of the remnant without Luke being more involved. It’s like they don’t exists and it’s only Dave Feloni’s characters from Clone Wars and Rebel’s looking after the Galaxy. It’s just not right. I miss George’s Star Wars.
I mean I'm their defense, it's hard to show them being "younger" in shows of them being old or dead (Leia). Unless you're going to do a lot of CGI for the show; which is not really practical long term. Now Han being a bit older would still work for the time around that the mandalorian takes place
Hey Stupendous love your videos man keep it up, could you some day make a video about Ganner Rhysode and his absolutely amazing last stand in Traitor? May the Force be with you
This was a chaotic last year for the empire.The empire, in ledgends and the OT wre frightening.If the empire, had picked a keader , to replace palpatine i would give them a Chance.
"Hey, hey everybody, it's Gus Fring." 4:11
"post-humorous" 😂...is that the emperor being funny after the fact? 🤔😅
if they make thrawn anything like he was in legends he will either suceed or get extremly close to winning. the only reason he lost was that he was assasinated by his own bodyguard when they learned about the empires betrail. he WAS winning the last battle and the republic was about to loose their last substantial fleet that had the majority of their remaining ships when it happend.
Oh hello my fellow brunette. How’s the bulking doing btw?
I’m doing well, hope you’re doing well too.
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Doing well too buddy, I’m a fan till the end.
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The book lost stars… must be read by all fans.
Star Wars has the best lore
Lack of food generally leads to revolt; good to see the Empire was at least consistent in their stupidity sans Palpatine (not that he was much smarter).... Obtaining power requires a completely different skill set than wielding power -- and having one doesn't guarantee you'll be proficient in the other.
Good ol Palpy being a sore psychotic loser as usual. You gotta love him
Windu lives … we all know it.
1:58 Where did they find a rock on Coruscant?
How to speak for everyone at this moment when I say that nobody wants to talk about how The empire started or ended. They want to know about the empire.
Oh, FFS!! You DON'T speak for everyone when you say that "no one wants to see this thing or that," the beginning or the end of ANYTHING on this particular channel or any other channel except, of course, for your OWN channel.
Oh, what's that you say? You're not going to build your own channel?
Well, of course not!! You're just going to sit back and let others actually do the "creative work" and you, as "the voice of the community" will lurk in the comments and criticise all that they create, you coward!!
where is some of the imperial art sourced from? i like the picture of the stormtroopers eating
Wait. How did someone manage to find a “rock” to throw during the riots? It’s Coruscant. 🤔
Mr wave, can you do a video about how the sith viewed strong force users who were not jedi or sith? could someone who was a strong force user and who isn't evil but neutral and able to sell services as a mercenary or bounty hunter ?
A fitting end for a wretched regime
Darth Sidious resurrected himself after Episode 6.
Elon Musk looks like Admiral Thrun
One Year not One Years.
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Day 664 of asking for a part 3 of what if anakin was trained by qui gon
Hey!
Would say legends and canon could have done better.
Canon events are unrealistic because 1 year to replace the second largest empire (Infinite Empire = 1) is not logical when under 10 percent of the fleet was at Endor.
Legends is better but not perfect, it’s too long
NNNNNNOOOOOOO
Disney universe blows chunks.
Disney's fake canon is so boring it makes golf exciting.
Golf is exciting tho.
Canon. Bleh
Disney shite
I'm just going to go ahead and say anything that was created to go along with Disney's narrative is not canon. For me the civil war was basically ended with the end of Timothy Zahns Thrawn Trilogy as he lead the IMPERIAL REMNANT to try and retake Coruscant and is defeated by the end, and thats 5 years or a tad more after ROTJ. After that point in the EU timeline the Remnant doesn't come to play very much.
Thrawn, heir to the empire: what was first just a dream has become a frightening reality, for those who may oppose us
Also thrawn: but... It was artistically done...