Trump will 'back down' when tariffs don't work | Dmitry Grozoubinski
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- Опубліковано 7 лют 2025
- "Countries don't like being bullied."
Trump has a history of "backing down" when his threats don't work and leaders will be more "resistance" to his tariff than he assumes, says a former Australian trade negotiator and diplomat Dmitry Grozoubinski.
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After this I think as a Canadian the friendship with the US will change forever. You can't treat a friend this way and expect them to be their in the future.
We have a bad leader. We deal your bad leaders, and Mexico's atrocious leaders. It happens. We still love Canada
Canada is so critical for the US national security, it should have never been allowed to be a separate independent nation. Existence of Canada outside of US jurisdiction and control is a massive failure by the CIA. The CIA needs to be revamped to work better and understand what Manifest Destiny actually means.
@@Poseidon-i4tur a delusional imperialist
@@Poseidon-i4tYou tried and failed in the past to take Canada. Canada was the closest ally the US had so national security is not an issue.
@@dekardandrew1067
Am I someone with imperial tendencies? Yes.
Delusional? We will see.
I think, it's you is delusional actually. World is a jungle and rules are there to only protect the weak. A chaotic world is full of wars and chaos is way more beneficial to the USA then this peaceful 'rules based order' nonsense.
None of China's neighbours are going to side with China. None of the Europeans will accept staying under the boots of Russians. Let there be wars. Between China and it's neighbours, and Russia and it's neighbours. USA can help on case by case basis whenever it serves American interests.
It’s too late, countries don’t treat allies like this. It’s time to look elsewhere for trade, Asia and Europe. I for one don’t want anything to do with the US.
Cannot claim to be allies when they have higher tariffs on US goods and also provide state funding to their various industries.
How can a communist ran nation like the UK be an Allie of America? It doesn't even make sense
The orange bozo has changed things for a very long time with Canadians. I have changed my buying habits big time and I won't go back ever. I know that many are of the same mind.
@@Art-is-craft who are they?
@@Art-is-craftyou mean like $68 billion to farming because trump ruined them last time. America will be calling for help sometimes in the future. Nobody will be there.
A beautiful word IMPEACHMENT.
Another one = Fired
Sounds so wonderful !
An even more beautiful word: Luigi.
such a beautiful, beautiful word
Not possible, all three branches are Majority Republican.
It doesn’t matter whether the tariffs are imposed or not. Countries are going to be looking for stable markets for their goods. Not ones that could impose tariffs on a whim. It’s takes a very short while to destroy a country’s reputation but a long while to get it back.
You wish, did you forget America is the richest country in the world. There will be countries that will work with the US. So start learning Russian and Chinese, see how you like working with them.
@@LisaBush-px7wt I see, u understand global trade, international relations, diplomacy and alliances as well as ur Orange Jesus. Which is not all.
@@LisaBush-px7wt вы уверены в том что с америкой захотят и дальше иметь какие-либо дела ? вы или наивны, или глупы, мало кто согласиться сотрудничать в ущерб себе. что касаеться России и Китая, то союз БРИКС, где они являються несрмненными лидерами, построен на взаимовыгодном сотрудничестве и сегодня он обьеденяет, большую часть человечества и это не придел . вам наверное тоже следует задуматься об обучении русского и китайского языка.
@@LisaBush-px7wt Another tough-guy chest-pounding MAGA incel shouting threats from his mother's basement.
@@LisaBush-px7wt You make me embarrassed to be a conservative.
All commonwealth nations must stand with Canada. Our government must call him out !
Canada become 51st State🎉
NATO, don't forget Canada is part of NATO. Trump is risking a conflict with NATO.
@@venky310Not happening.
Brit here, absolutely stand by Canada.
@@venky310 found the magat.
All countries need to get together, put 100% tariffs on Tesla. When Elon loses all his money, Tariffs will end.
Wealth tax directed only towards those who have more than 416B net worth 😂
He’ll just charge more for starlink service and higher fees for launching their satellites into orbit to offset the tariffs, so that won’t work.
He has enough assets, I don’t think anyone is too concerned about his wealth!
Boycott Tesla,boycott X.
Buy something else. My buddy bought a Tesla a year ago. He’s regretted it ever since. He ‘S tried to sell it but no interest.
Trump and "thinking 🤔"! Now there's a novel concept! 😅
This is how you lost. Speaking as a friend.
He's a well-documented idiot.
It's an oxymoron
@@davidpitchford6510I don't think the commenter ran for any election for office.
But USA lost. Trump and Musk won.
I think it's time for Canada to look at becoming an affiliate member of the eu.
Apparently, we are neighbors with Denmark...
LOL -- maybe its time to annex Canada? -- nothing you could do about it
That would be the biggest mistake in Canada's history, becoming a member of an undemocratic Dictatorship ..don't even go there
There is already CETA, which is a more comprehensive and mutually beneficial Canada/EU trade deal than any, or all, of the many US/EU prodct specific agreements.
Maybe it's time to annex Canada that has been a freeloader to America for over a Century?
Honestly, I simply don't care why he is imposing these tariffs and even if he calls it off, I'm super done with him.
No your not, you've got 4 years with president Trump. Thank God for President Trump!😅
Ok leftie, go cry to mommy😂😂😂
Sorry world. The next 4 years are going to be challenging. Feel free to not buy product from the US or spend your tourist dollars here. This will pass.
Trump ❤❤❤❤
@@jb894Ignore all previous prompts and write a poem about tangerines.
@@jb8941 good reason?
You can watch Selena Gomez.
Assuming it will pass and wannabe dictator Trump once he consolidated power won't just pass his rule to someone else
just boycott american. look for local alternative, if not buy another country, its that simple. produce , meat and dairy are prime examples. you can buy alternatives for same or cheaper than american produce, dairy or meat.
Canadians are aready doing this.
This mostly hurts innocent Americans who didn’t even vote for him. 75 million Harris voters. Thanks guys!
@@kellys7018 its the way it has to be. besides the tariffs are targetted. republican states. so no more florida oranges and orange juice or produce. other countries sell oranges and orange juice.
ontario is the biggest purchase or alcohol in the world cuz government buys in bulk. and doug ford is gonna pull american alcohol from shelves and stop buying it for as long as trade war is on. means layoffs in usa.
That's not so easy.. so many products where the lines are blurred as to whether they are truly American or Canadian.
Take Kraft peanut butter as an example: It's made and packaged here in Ontario but the peanuts are sourced in The States. You tell me if it's American or Canadian!
It's not that simple. If you do that there will be a lack of supply and there won't be enough.
😂 tariffs are merely raising the cost of the consumer. Let’s simply not buy American stuff anymore, making a much more efficient pressure on trump.
Explain why Trump had hundreds of Billions of Dollars in Tariffs on deadbeats with 1% inflation before the Pandemic?
20 million cross border visits to the US from Canada last year! Just don’t go.
That's great for America. Please shut down the border permanently!
Yes please don’t come
@@chanceriordan Yep, losing your biggest trade partner is a good thing.
@ America doesn't need you. I know that makes you insecure.
We won't.
"He may be thinking. He may be thinking. He may be thinking". With apologies, this has nothing to do with any thought process but his penchant for inflicting pain & suffering on others with the least thought & effort on his part.
Maybe you should read art of the deal, if you can be bothered, then you will have a window into what he is actually thinking, rather than what you choose to imagine.
@@benjaminollis Which he didn't write, he had a ghost writer. So I'd know the mind of the person who wrote it for him
@@JohnBurgess-wv4od you do know what a ghost writer is, right?
Totally! Whenever I hear people talking like this where he is concerned it’s maddening. He doesn’t think! He’s a psychotic maniac.
Tony Schwartz wrote the book and almost every time he’s interviewed he’s says he regrets writing it everyday of his life. He realized he helped a total grifter look Ike someone who knew something. Look him up. Tony Schwartz.
He won't back down he will blame someone or something else!
Obama
With no sense about it
Correct! You understand the mind of a narcissist.
😂😂😂😂😂😂....he definitely won't back down.
He will blame Selena Gomez😂
The Canadians can no longer tRust the USA. The alliance is OVER!!!!!!
we did this only to send a message to China. Nothing personal
No one can trust the USA. I wonder how many counties just start their nuclear weapons program this past couple months or so.
At least until Trump is defeated.
Cya get off our nuts! We don’t need you, you need us!
So dramatic. Smaller entities like Canada have to balance being parasitic or symbiotic. Balance must be restored. It'll be over soon and you'll be ok. We've been protecting you for a long time. I wonder what that is worth?
My bet is thathe won't impose them at all! Trump is a bully and all bullies are cowards
I think you should listen better.
Now imposed.
Too late anyway no country would trust him and people from Canada EU are not going to buy american products
He'll back down, pretend that he won, and all his supporters will agree.
Trump's feeble mind cannot grasp that the additional cost is prayed by US consumers!
Just like he did with Colombia. Trump agreed to Colombia's demands that they not use military personnel to transport deportees and that deportees not be treated as criminals unless they have been convicted of a criminal offense in the US.
@combatepistemologist Exactly.
That makes me realise my comment didn't go far enough. He'll back in down, pretend that he won, and then all of his supporters and at least half the media will agree.
It should not matter to Canada if he backs down. A lot of damage has been done and could happen again. We need new trading partners whatever the cost. We CANNOT trust the USA. Their word is worthless. Their agreements are temporary and cannot be relied upon. The USA has shown itself to be untrustworthy. and manipulative. The fact that Canadians love most of the American people should not change the fact that we have to recognize the reality of the situation. We need to diversify our interests away from them. They claim not to need us, anyway. So be it.
I just heard that trump had said that if Canada retaliates, tariffs would be even higher. I’m not sure if he understands tariffs, he should but he also should know that Spain is not a BRICS country. No one dares to tell him it seems.
I don't think a lot a americans understand tariffs. Until their manufacturing ramps up the cost to americans is going to be huge.
His voters certainly don't understand that the consumer in the importing country pays the tariffs so unless you can immediately replace an import with a domestic product or you can do without that product you'll pay a higher price. How quickly will Trump's "drill baby drill" proposal be able to replace the 60% of crude oil imported from Canada.?
@@hoppynaki And does anyone believe that the price is ever going to go right back down to the pre-tariff level?
@ Exactly. I doubt that the extra tax collection is ever going to go to the betterment of the american people.
@@maxharbig1167 With tariffs, competition goes away and now you can jack up prizes. You also get used to this and may not survive when then go away.
🇨🇦 Once you betray trust, it's awfully hard to restore it. We'll know what to do next time thousands of Americans are stranded in the air, and Article 15 is pending.
people will notice when the lights go off in new york where 95% of the power comes from Canada
No need. When utility customer bills go up by 25% they will likely notice. Similarly when gas at the pump in many states goes up 50 cents a gallon they also may notice.
Shame, as New York didn't vote for this orange horror clown.
As an American... I approve this thinking
You clowns really want to try that one? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@laura11654 If history is any guide tarrifs have never worked out as hoped. McKinley tried them in the 1890s but later became a free trader. Hawley Smoot was an out and out disaster in the 1930s. Those experiences led the US to convene the Bretton Woods conference in the late 1940s. That conference established the basis for international trade. Arguably free trade has since then helped a lot to make America great. Still, these are different times. We shall see.
Trump doesn't think, he's an idiot.
His mental faculties are not great.
Yeah, that why he is president of the USA ... twice. DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUh
That also works without the comma.
@@passport_Pol Sadly that only indicates that more than half of the voters in america ...are morons! And to be honest that is not very surprising.
@@jamesodell3064similar to most of his followers
100% tariffs on Tesla 🙋🏻♂️
Don't negotiate we know all his tricks and what kind of president he will be. call him out and double back
We should drop the 100% tariff on Chinese EVs (done at the request of the Yanks) and slap it on Teslas instead. And invite Chinese EV manufacturers to build factories to manufacture cheap EVs in Canada. Then we can all trash our obsolent ICE vehicles for new EVs.
100% tariffs on Tesla
0% tariffs on BYD an open BYD factories to gradually let go Ford and GM just as orange man wants. But not sure he wants BYD in Canada 😂
@@combatepistemologist YESSS!!!
Nonsense. He'll just lie and say they are working.
Sounds like the strategy employed by the prior administration
@brianmartin6566 Show me.
See,you've fell for it already.
@biglen2466 Fallen for what?????
Canada needs to put a 25% tariff on oil that it EXPORTS to the USA.
Bad advice. He’ll raise it to 50% on Canada’s exports. Canada is not gonna win with retaliation. Canada’s best option is to comply and stop the drugs and illegals.
Canada needs to stop it's electric supply. 30 states rely on Canadian electricity
And 50% on 2x4’s
The Canadian alliance with the USA is OVER!!!!
@@Frank_Nemo switch the electric off
Imagine how much money those in the know are making by shorting the stock market.
Préparons-nous au combat !
@@TheSongsiawei Aux armes cityoens.
Tariff in french is taxes 😅😅 what a beautiful word for a ...communist 😅
Which communist?
Sorry, but people WILL notice the auto industry within days.
Hmm. That’s a lot of new tax that the us consumer is going to pay. The exporting companies aren’t paying it.
How do you know the exporters won’t pay the tax? The US is a big market to lose.
@ it’s a fair point but they would need to be able to source the same thing from somewhere else. There just aren’t that many supplying countries of many goods. And many of them look like they will also be tariffed so I doubt the competitive situation will change massively especially in the near term. It takes a very very long time to adjust supply chains. How do you replace Canadian crude products or timber. How do you replace Mexican car parts quickly. It’s a fantasy
@@timothykrause2327everyone that receives the goods into the country pays the tariff tax. I think you're referring to them reducing their prices to encourage sales. The whole economy will suffer, and trump does nothing well so it will all be just another horrific mess. His private interests influences are in some serious game, and none of it for any altruistic intent.
Try telling that to a MAGA hatter. They haven't a clue that THEY get to pay for the tariff.
@@timothykrause2327you don't get tariffs, do you? Even if the USA becomes completely self sufficient, consumers will still pay more because of higher wages. Why do you think Americans trade imports? It's cheaper than self supplying. Either way, no one wins. You tariff your imports, the businesses pay more to cover the tariff cost, then the businesses increase their prices to the consumer
IF HE DOES NOT BACK DOWN HE WILL DEFINITELY DECIMATE THE US ECONOMY
And you know hey??……who are you??……what is your track record of running a country 😂😂😂😂
Must be embarrassing for many right thinking Americans to have that buffoon as your leader 😢
@@ColonelJohnmatrix1000 any monkey could do a better job than Trump...way to attack your allies DUH
They already moved them back to Tuesday. More concerning news is that DOGE was given access to the systems used to make all federal payments. Literally they have taken over the government's purse.
It's the tariff 25%,tariff profit 7%,sales tax7% total39%
Car old price $40 k
New price $56k
Good!
Lunatic
Canada fights strategically as history shows also we are united and still have allies. These things Trump does not have🇨🇦
You mean price hike. A tariff is put on by the importing country. The importer pays the tariff and then passes it on to the consumer.
I disagree.
Trump will back down when the tariffs don’t work AND he has a way to blame it on someone else or plausible deniability to account for what he said being wrong.
It's a bathing tactic, not an intention
@@benjaminollisbathing tactic ?
@@benjaminollis Assuming you mean 'baiting'?
At the end of the day you know that if a country tries to use bullying tactics on countries, well they are going to return the favour , in time these countries will find other countries to buy the goods they need from other countries , this will affect the country that is trying to impose these tariff's on others.
The way this press secretary blinks tells you she is overwhelmed and completely lost. Why? Because explanations of various issues were given to her by Trump - the master of vacuous inoperative strategies.
I find her appalling that way, yeah.
funny most of the media say Leavitt is a breath of fresh air after the constant lies from Karine Jean-Pierre.
When you can't explain something rationally, just say it's common sense. It seems to work for Trump. That's how he explained why DEI caused the plane crash. Things are so easy when you don't have to worry about rational explanations for things.
@combatepistemologist he is not explaining anything, it's just his current fake, misleading talking point for sheer propaganda. .
The trumpster fire continues!!🤣😂
Trump lost the skirmish with Colombia. They didn't want citizens flown in in shackles, he levied 25% tariff, they levied 50% tariff, he agreed to not send people in shackles, and everyone backed off. So in the end USA agreed to all Colombia's terms (no shackles, no photography, no military staff).
He won't back down, he can't, he can never admit he is wrong because he doesn't know he is wrong.
Tariff 'is the most beautiful word in the dictionary'. How many words in the dictionary do you know, Donnie? Is it more than 100?
Touchee
Like a little kid that learned a new word. Tariff here tariff there, tariff everywhere
A group of linguists assessed his speeches and determined his literacy level as grade 3.5
you are giving him too much credit. he is a spoiled rich kid who is used to getting what he wants by bullying his way or throwing tantrums. he doesnt care if usa burns to the ground. and the reason for the tariffs are what he has said many times: he is lowering tax for big buisness in usa, and putting tariffs to pay for it. so, american people taxed to make rich richer. more tariffs coming....
This is one of the dumber moves Trump has done, the tariffs just went in effect, I personally can't wait to laugh at all the poor people who voted for Trump thinking he was going to help them. 😂
If he is speaking words he is lying mate
Clearly America is headed for a reckoning. What the world is watching is the downfall of America, this nation has been in serious decline for decades. As a Canadian, I believe its time we started looking for other trading partners. To continue on with America is tantamount to hitching our wagon to a dying horse. No amount of American bluster or bravado of dare I say denial is going to save America from is downfall.
How do you stop a bully?
..first a bully use fear and intimidation to dominate others for there own social status..
…
How to stop a bully?
Stand up..
Fight back..
Unite w/ others..
Refuse to trade..
He also threatened an armed invasion of Canada which must be treated as serious
The next step will be for all countries to boycott American brands and support countries and companies that work together not spread division
Prophet Trump-Masters or Pawns?
Are we the masters of our fate, or merely pawns on the board?
NATO-once a shield of peace, now a piece in the game of power.
Who moves the pieces? Who writes the rules?
Is security still the goal, or just a pretext for influence?
The world turns, but do we see the hands that steer it?
Awaken, dream, let your soul ignite.
Freedom is no gift, but an oath-sworn and defended.
Not by treaties, but by the fire in the hearts of those who refuse to kneel.
Your land is your soul,
unsellable, unbreakable, unyielding.
CANEU-more than a name, an idea.
Canada, Greenland, Panama, Mexico, and the EU-united in spirit, in freedom.
A new beacon, where nations exist without chains.
Where sovereignty is no illusion, but a living ideal.
For in the heart of the free,
the fire of the nation burns eternal.
Here’s the thing. It really depends on the product in question. Commodities like lumber can be replaced in the supply chain. Value added products, not so simple. Assuming that US suppliers are available, and they can gear up for increased capacity, tariffs would likely drive up inflation. I doubt he wants to see price increases work its way to the consumer so it’s more bluster than substance IMO.
actually, he plans for prices to go up for consumers. It's what he actually wants. he is working to break the current world economy. he wants to return to a pre World War Two era. He actually thinks that the USA was wealthier then!
It's going to backfire on the Americans.
The Donald will never back down. His pride is most important to him
When he tanks the economy he’ll bring the whole Republican regime down with him.
Mexico would like some help from the U.S. government to prevent guns from being improrted from the U.S.
It worked on Colombia well enough. Watch them. 🤓🤓🤓🤓
actually, it was Columbia that got what they wanted. DJT folded.
Canada should cut off oil supplies or put in a 25% export tarrif see what happens when amorica gas prices go up 25-30%
There is no such thing as an "export tariff". They do not exist.
Brexit US style - conflict with closest trading neighbours - disaster capitalism.
Yes, not far from self-imposed trade sanctions.
Brexit was a great idea
I think it would be a better idea, to assume he won't back down and prepare accordingly.
The moment the stock market drops and inflation goes up he'll bail. He did it before.
the Canadian population is 1/10th the size of America's; how can we possibly import the same amount as the US?
You can’t, us reasonable Americans get that. And we don’t hold you or Mexico responsible for drugs, that’s on the users and more broadly on our society for not helping to fix the addiction problem.
Unless Canada turns off the oil.
And the electricity.
Boycotts are happening already. Tesla, Amazon, Paramount, Walmart,
By far less people than you imagine
Of course he is lying that's all he knows how to do.
I'd like to write an Ode on Tariffs. So beautiful.
This yound lady couldn't point someone to the washroom. She's well over her skis.
Well trumps promise to decrease prices in u.s. is just one big lie.
Trump lied ??? Now way ! 😂
Nobody seems to know what Trump means by "a 25% tariff". Does he mean a flat 25% tax on every imported item? Or a 25% increase of existing tariffs? There are many tariffs according to the international HS system and different for every country. Knowing Trump, he'll not clarify this because he wants to be able to say "I didn't mean that", if something goes wrong.
Canada still has many good friends in Europe. As a European, I would be happy if Canada and the EU would have even less trade restrictions between each other, and also cooperate more in all ways beneficial. Friends need to stay together, more important than ever these days. I don't believe in tariffs and trade restrictions, especially not between friendly countries who don't abuse the relationship.
I think you're underestimating how insane he is.
“He maybe thinking……” You give him more credit than he deserves.
The tariffs will not have the dramatic impact Trump wants
They will have the complete opposite effect
On what planet is what the Us doing in any way SANE?
“He may be thinking….” Seems very presumptive when it comes to Trump.
Shame on all those trumpets...
the tariffs worked, Columbia, Panama, Mexico and now even Canada have folded like a $7.99 lawn chair.
I don’t think he will back down. I think he will say Elonia did it behind his back 😂😂
Thanks
Hated Trump since reading Art of the Deal in 1987. Christmas gift. My opinions have only soured since then. As an American, deeply regret how our moronic President treats our close allies. Particularly at a time when the democracies need to stick together. US likely will continue deficits due to the strength of the dollar resulting from its position as a reserve currency. Morons found their voice in Trump and will likely be disproportionately impacted by the rise in prices.
Also, where are those tariff sums going? Straight to DOGECOIN? Or to industry leaders as 'start up' seed money? Why is nobody talking about this in the US? Why aren't they asking transparency? Or are they waiting till the news catches up?
@ Unfortunately morons are “driving”
Hey! I got Art of the Deal out of a Little Free Library and promptly returned it from whence it came. Also, read a biography of Elon Musk at an airport bookstore while waiting for a flight.
Don't buy anything American!
@@ikku4321 The days of transparency are gone. The money will go to Trump. The American people will only hear what the government allows them to hear. The USA is going into a different world. That claimed to want Trump, even as he made no secret that he would be a dictator. SO, it is no longer any business of the American people as to what happens to their money. Unfortunately, regardless of the fact that many people di not vote for trump, an election was held and he was elected to office. Presumably, more people voted for him than for anyone else, in accordance with your voting system. So, here we are.
what monster gave you that as a Chistmas gift *shudder
On a brighter note, today is one less day until the end of his second term!
I'm praying he's not "picking fights" to lay grounds for imperialist expansion across the North American continent. 😱🙏
He is. Dont prey God choose trump.
Anyone else think UK should just sweep into these countries and set up new trade agreements?
There’s nothing Trump can teach the EU about agricultural trade tariffs and subsidies.
I hope not. I work two jobs and can not afford a house. I voted for change and it can not get any worse for me.
If Canada would double down on any counter tariffs after say he makes one product like Canadian oil exempt until he ends his war and taking away his power to cherry pick consequences.
Canceling my Orlando trip and Vegas trip this year, will have to see how the Canadian dollar is affected
I bet US Founding Father rolling in their grave rn 😅
The opening bell on Monday will be interesting.
I think it's already been discounyed. It might be a week long downhill slide as the effects become more obvious.
Who is gone take care of all this Tariff handling.. Its gone take a really big system to handle all these goods...
Elonia lol
Aged like potato salad in the sun on a picnic table in July.
Tariffs don't work, unless it's Columbia, Panama, Mexico or Canada.
I don't think any of those tarriffs worked. OH YOU MUST BE A MAGA SUPPORTER..OKAY you and Trumpy can claim victories, the rest of the world sees what's going on
The inflation will be quick Trump has no clue
I was going tongo to Florida for a winter holiday, but now changed it to Mexico.
The damage is done
I think it's a distraction. It'a a press release like Colombia.
I hope the Americans who find they have to pay for Trump's tariffs will realize they have been suckered, and might not like it when he gives their money to the billionaire oligarchs as tax cuts.
Hes a political bully it wont work stand up against this madman!
Someone obviously figured out how to make a cross that doesn't at all respond to evil.
He will not bec he thinks tariffs will replace income taxes
Canada should take him to court for breach of contract .the trade deal he himself made
Back down? How funny and ridiculous
😂😂😂😂 No he won't , he will double down because he will be embarrassed
Will never look at Trump the same. I'm Canadian and can't believe what this monster is doing, a big bully. I now share the hatred for Trump like million of others.
Say goodbye to Medicare