Could The Philippines Survive A Huge Chinese Naval Assault? (Naval Battle 127) | DCS

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  • @ArchAngel-FJB
    @ArchAngel-FJB 7 місяців тому +166

    Cap, I'm sure you've heard the US just recently successfully launched an AGM-183A ARRW in the south China Sea. Will you make a war game to show how this could be used? Thanks

    • @willwozniak2826
      @willwozniak2826 7 місяців тому

      The ARRW is not a anti ship missile ....more for like hidden surprise mainland strikes.....and yes the last all round test succeeded....uncle Sam has a big choice to make now that it works 15 to 18 million per missile...HACM is coming along but taking its time. 2025 are proposed flight tests.

    • @willwozniak2826
      @willwozniak2826 7 місяців тому +9

      Once again check comments....just made a comment about the ARRW passing its final test....ARRW is not a anti ship missile....15 to 18 million bucks per missile. Comments seem to disappear again under these threads.

    • @witherkey
      @witherkey 7 місяців тому +1

      i believe they may have already made a video on that

    • @leepatterson5710
      @leepatterson5710 7 місяців тому +6

      @@willwozniak2826 Even if they did use them in DCS I do not see them able to be properly modeled as they don't just go fast, they maneuver around quite a bit. I don't think the "missile" flight models can do that.

    • @willwozniak2826
      @willwozniak2826 7 місяців тому +2

      @@leepatterson5710 the Reapers did a mission with the ARRW over mainland Russia and the S 400s had a field day with that. They tweaked it to resemble a cruise missile.

  • @azoriusmage
    @azoriusmage 7 місяців тому +91

    People always talk about US Carriers projecting power etc but it is the Arleigh Burke's power that always amazes me.

    • @Spendingryan
      @Spendingryan 7 місяців тому +9

      As long as the carriers are properly defended with several destroyers and cruisers like in real life, you can have air superiority anywhere at sea which is powerful, and the aircraft have quite a range of different weapon options too, america has like 73 destroyers and like 13 cruisers which is plenty to protect several carriers, but they are always going to be a huge target, especially for the advanced anti ship stuff the other nations are building.

    • @azoriusmage
      @azoriusmage 7 місяців тому +1

      @@Spendingryan Thanks for mansplaining I was well aware of how good Carriers are

    • @MrCastodian
      @MrCastodian 7 місяців тому

      @@azoriusmageThe problem is that an US destroyer is not this good, they don’t have all this missiles to begin with, it’s a rigged game.

    • @chingtuckmeng1122
      @chingtuckmeng1122 7 місяців тому

      1980s mustang. trash

    • @rburnett6266
      @rburnett6266 7 місяців тому

      The Philippine navy does.not have neutron bombs...like Taiwan has now.....
      If we give them 40 or 50 of them, they could actually go on offensive if attacked...😂

  • @geekpoet7443
    @geekpoet7443 7 місяців тому +55

    CAP, one of best battles I've watched yet. That opening salvo was insane.

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  7 місяців тому +11

      Agreed.

    • @MrCastodian
      @MrCastodian 7 місяців тому +1

      @@grimreapersLove your games, but why give them what they don’t have?
      F-15 EX exist with 6 planes in US, Aim-110D3 is not in production, only 500 SM-6 have been made so far, non of them with anti ship warheads, an U.S. ship only have 16 at most, they can be used as anti ship, but that would be stupidity when they need them for defence and if they are used as anti ship missiles they are worthless against major ships, they have an 63kg proximity fragmentation warhead.
      This is what an destroyer have.
      But not all of them, 1/3 have not been integrated with SM-3 and SM-6.
      8x SM-3, 16x SM-6, 30x SM-2MR, 16x ESSM, 32x TLAM, 6x VLA

    • @ex0duzz
      @ex0duzz 7 місяців тому

      If it was anything even half realistic, USA would be destroyed even with their full power, let alone pH or USA with 1/10th of their power etc.

  • @Maverick0451
    @Maverick0451 7 місяців тому +29

    Holy hell that opening barrage was insane!! What a raw show of the power of modern combined naval forces!! This was excellent from start to finish. Well matched by both sides in pretty much all aspects. I agree with the end assessment, a tactical win for the Blues as the Reds would certainly have to retreat after using all ordinance and losing it's entire airwing. They would honestly be lucky to make it home in that state, especially the one 055 which was on fire. Tops in this one for me in each coalition goes to Dark for the Reds!! His social credit score just went up by 80% easy!! 🤣 For the American Blues I have to give hats off to Fire for coming in to bail out the allied anti shipping!! For the Filipino Blues, Poosh is now a decorated hero of the Philippine Air Force, and can expect a warm welcome at Clark AFB and Angeles City afterwards!! I Loved this one!! I spent a good amount of time in several parts of the Philippines in my time in the Marine Corps. They would absolutely pull another of moves that you guys simulated with the grounding of another ship if China pulled off some aggressive move like this and shots were fired. That would most certainly turn into a fortified atoll. Damn fine mission Super Cap, and damn fine flying as always Grim Reapers!!

  • @player55redcrafter8
    @player55redcrafter8 4 місяці тому +7

    Hey CAP, I've read news from MaxDefense Philippines a while back that the FA-50 golden eagles might have already received the necessary block 20 upgrades in order to be BVR capable, and that it's not just announced in public as news.
    Also, Philippines got their Brahmos supersonic cruise missile launchers already and have completed training with it. They're gonna be used as land based anti ship defense.

  • @marcdavis4509
    @marcdavis4509 7 місяців тому +36

    The Philippines consists of thousands of islands and a kid be very difficult to wargame. The US could potentially land HIMARS and other strategic rocket and missile systems all over with the US and Philippine navies and land marines and sailors across dozens and dozens of islands in secret.

    • @ChaohsiangChen
      @ChaohsiangChen 7 місяців тому +10

      While the Filipino navy and air forces are just token forces, they do have men power and fighting spirit, the exact contrary to their neighbor in the north.

    • @Eis_
      @Eis_ 7 місяців тому +3

      ​@@ChaohsiangChenYep. And considering that US already did this before, it wouldn't be surprising if they'd fund the Philippine Forces with equipment and vehicles. Also, much like Korea, Philippines has mandated its people to be trained and educated in Military sciences; and could potentially field millions of people considering how long that program has been running (since 1912, though it was turned voluntary instead of mandatory around the early 2000s).

    • @johnphilipdelagente5802
      @johnphilipdelagente5802 7 місяців тому +2

      Between 2024-2030 The Philippines will get more assets including 24 fighter jets (F16s/Gripen/KF2) with additional 12 FA-50s, 2 Atk Subs, 2 VLS AESA equipped Corvettes and a lot more. The Philippines currently has 3 MR-SPADS SAM and 5 Brahmos ASM batteries. More batteries will be purchased in the future. Hopefully it pushes through before the big ban happens which I hope will never happen.

    • @st-6837
      @st-6837 7 місяців тому +4

      ​@@ChaohsiangChenAgree heck we have 1.4 million on reserve force what we need now is new equipments

    • @soyunlicantropo
      @soyunlicantropo 6 місяців тому +2

      Stop the US dependency, negotiate, avoid a conflict. Grow up.

  • @kilroy07
    @kilroy07 7 місяців тому +18

    I heard recently that while the U.S. missiles have a smaller warhead they are programmed to hit the Command deck or the missile mags rather than simply aim center mass... Thus knocking a ship out of action sooner than a simple hit point reduction. Thoughts?

    • @MaxIsStrange1
      @MaxIsStrange1 7 місяців тому +6

      The sensors the US uses are incredible-for example, the Patriot missiles always aim for the warhead section of incoming enemy missiles or the canopy section of fighters (oof) and the system can even distinguish between decoy warheads and the real deal so I think it’s entirely possible that the SM-6 can distinguish and target particular features of a giant ship (comparatively speaking).

    • @collinwood6573
      @collinwood6573 7 місяців тому +7

      Yeah, that was my biggest problem with this simulation. The 055 was completely crippled and one of the 052Ds got smacked in the face with at least 3 SM-6s but both continued to operate as if they were completely undamaged. An SM-6 probably won’t sink a ship unless it hits a magazine, but it could absolutely mission kill one in a single hit.

    • @kingdedede1066
      @kingdedede1066 7 місяців тому +2

      Absolutely not. The sm-6 uses an active radar seeker which you are right would help you hit small targets but it would not be able to differentiate from areas of a ship.

    • @MrCastodian
      @MrCastodian 7 місяців тому +1

      @@collinwood6573 No, the biggest problem is that US used non existing equipment.
      USA only have F-15EX and they have no Aim-110D3, an US destroyers only have 16 SM-6, 8 SM-3 and 30 SM-2 ER onboard, plus 16 ESSM.
      US navy don’t use SM-6 in anti ship mode, obviously they can, they can use SM-2 and ESSM to, all SAM can be used like this, in all nations, but they don’t because they have a small 64 kg proximity fragmentation warhead, it explode before impact, can’t sink a major surface ship.
      And mission kill…No, you don’t mission kill 10 000 ton ships with a missile like that.

    • @lmn6335
      @lmn6335 6 місяців тому

      @@MrCastodian You're the expert.

  • @ryabow
    @ryabow 7 місяців тому +18

    minor correction to your starting map, the main part of US 7th fleet is at Yokosuka, in the Kanagawa prefecture of Japan, Not Yokohama. Yokosuka is ~18 miles further south by road, ~11 miles as the F-35C flies. or maybe it was an F-35B, as the JS Izumo currently in Yokosuka, getting refitted from a DDH destroyer/helicopter carrier into a CVL light aircraft carrier, with the capabilities to launch and recover F-35Bs, and currently have USMC pilots with them to help with the training.

  • @Blank27
    @Blank27 7 місяців тому +51

    Looks like the Chinese carrier got hit by the anti ship missiles at the end of the video.

    • @willwozniak2826
      @willwozniak2826 7 місяців тому +3

      The SM 6 flies around Mach 3.5 to 4.....cant wait to see when the SM 6 BLOCK IB starts testing...They now can test that since the ARRW is now flying.

  • @joelcueto2460
    @joelcueto2460 7 місяців тому +46

    From what I understand, 2-4 of the FA-50s the Philippine Air Force has is already upgraded and integrated by Israel's Rafael to use Phyton 5 and I-Derby missiles, though they can only use Mavericks for surface attacks for now, but Rafael is also offering their sea breaker anti-ship missiles for the FA-50s and FA-50 can carry two of those missiles. Philippines is also in the process of acquiring multi-role fighters and it's highly possible that the Philippines will have F-16 with the assistance from the United States, while the Philippine government would acquire Jas-39 Gripens. The Philippines is also in the process of receiving their land-based Brahmos anti-ship missile system, 3 batteries of it. The two frigates the Philippine Navy has have C-star anti-ship missiles which is also from South Korea, and the 2 corvettes and 8 OPV that is already under construction in south Korea will also have the C-star anti-ship missile system. The 3 Hamilton class we recieved from United States is already upgraded with modern combat management systems and sensors that can now use harpoon anti-ship missiles though the Philippine government has not yet decided if those three Hamilton's will be up armed with missile systems.

    • @Zerocyxone9
      @Zerocyxone9 7 місяців тому +9

      Assistance assistance 😂 you guys just excite yourself too much. You arent capable of wars. Admit that. Help from other nations means poor life for filipinos, your taxes will increase because every armada that they will lend…you gonna pay for it.

    • @BatAskal
      @BatAskal 7 місяців тому

      ​@@Zerocyxone9Rather than lose trillions worth of oil and gas under the sea to the Commies, the armada is still cheaper to keep our world free. 😊

    • @chrisnoctskie5869
      @chrisnoctskie5869 7 місяців тому +22

      @@Zerocyxone9 Ohhkay... china is not capable either and yet to be tested by the hardcore more war-hungry Americans. Also go play genshin before you lecture us about economics. Telling us war is expensive is like saying the Sky is blue. 😂

    • @userytwontletmeuseanyotherun
      @userytwontletmeuseanyotherun 7 місяців тому +9

      ​@@Zerocyxone9you maybe right, you will not know until you have the war....never under estimate the capabilities of any countries ....China might have might but they don't have experience...

    • @joelcueto2460
      @joelcueto2460 7 місяців тому +4

      @@Zerocyxone9 , well it's clear you don't know anything from the Philippines history. Even as Magellan landed on this country in 1500's he got killed because our local chieftain which in Lapu-lapu didn't want to submit under Spain's jurisdiction. And since then, we fought every invader this country has, we can't compete with their military technology but we don't just wave the white flag and didn't try to resist any invader. From Spanish, American, Japanese, in Korean war, few Filipino Soldiers withstood an assault from Thousand of Chinese and North Korean soldiers in the battle of yultong and our soldiers emerged victorious, we fought in Vietnam as well. So for you to say Filipinos aren't capable of war is really a statement from a person like you who didn't mind researching first before making a statement.

  • @tycbrum6524
    @tycbrum6524 7 місяців тому +11

    i really enjoy watching this channel - been a few months watching now - please keep them coming - enjoying all the hard work you put in

    • @Smashing_Bumpkin
      @Smashing_Bumpkin 7 місяців тому

      They never fail to entertain. Glad I found this channel. :)

    • @jacksonwong90
      @jacksonwong90 6 місяців тому

      Sick and tired with fabricating lies bad for the ears .

  • @apedley
    @apedley 7 місяців тому +21

    What would happen if all the crappy missiles got fired first since you know that the enemy are going to drain their reserves of defensive missiles to take them down? You'd then be left with the high impact weapons being more likely to make it through question mark?

    • @readhistory2023
      @readhistory2023 7 місяців тому +8

      Your plan is the missile swarm tactic but on a budget so it should still work.

    • @kingdedede1066
      @kingdedede1066 7 місяців тому +1

      The problem is sm-6 is not very crappy. It is extremely expensive and probably would not be used in this manner

    • @Spendingryan
      @Spendingryan 7 місяців тому

      I think I heard the standard missile 6 can also take out those dangerous hypersonic anti ship missiles? Correct me if I'm wrong though, the standard missile 3 are the crappy older ones right?

    • @kingdedede1066
      @kingdedede1066 7 місяців тому +1

      @@Spendingryan definitely not. You are getting them kind of mixed up I think although they are both new and very good missiles. SM-3 is a special exo-atmospheric anti ballistic missile while SM-6 is a general purpose missile, a more modern version of SM-2 with over the horizon targeting capabilities. You are thinking of SM-1 or SM-2 as the older missiles.

    • @Spendingryan
      @Spendingryan 7 місяців тому +1

      @kingdedede1066 Ah okay.

  • @exidy-yt
    @exidy-yt 7 місяців тому +57

    Cap, I do believe that the Liaoning took a vampire in the face according to the tactical map! Also that 055 was a hulk and still on fire, sure to be scuttled if it didn't go down on it's own. This was a HUGE PhilippineAmerican win really.

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  7 місяців тому +16

      Liaoning kill didn't count, I had to tell her to hold fire so she didn't fire her Russian P-700 missiles (she doesn't have them in real life). So she couldn't defend herself from the C-802. Over-sight on my side.

    • @youarebeingtrolled6954
      @youarebeingtrolled6954 7 місяців тому +2

      U really getting hard over a sim game😂

    • @Dimitris_Datseris
      @Dimitris_Datseris 7 місяців тому +8

      To be fair, you may actually be over estimating Chinese naval capabilities anyway .

    • @Spendingryan
      @Spendingryan 7 місяців тому +4

      Yeah that was not fair on the Chinese side if the aircraft carrier was told not to use close in weapons or defence missiles, I get you had to tell it to hold fire because of those crazy missile launchers under the runway which has always been interesting to me, imagine someone is ready for take off and those runway flaps open up lol.

    • @leexingha
      @leexingha 7 місяців тому +4

      @@Dimitris_Datseris nope. u r underestimating us

  • @AnthonyScott_Little_Black_Duck
    @AnthonyScott_Little_Black_Duck 7 місяців тому +12

    I love how this sounds like a good sports announcer calling a very close game

    • @dexlab7539
      @dexlab7539 7 місяців тому +1

      Cap is amazing as an announcer of boom boom 😂

  • @player55redcrafter8
    @player55redcrafter8 4 місяці тому +5

    Also, you forgot that Philippines got their Brahmos supersonic cruise missile launchers already and have completed training with it. They're gonna be used as land based anti ship defense.

    • @Mr.Niubility
      @Mr.Niubility 4 місяці тому

      I was thinking, what is this brahmos....... R u serious? Or r u an Indian?

    • @heisen3237
      @heisen3237 4 місяці тому

      ​@@Mr.Niubility indian able to sell brahmos to philippines it have three batteries right now.

    • @Mr.Niubility
      @Mr.Niubility 4 місяці тому +1

      @@heisen3237 no one take brahmos serious, that what im saying.

    • @wyne9145
      @wyne9145 Місяць тому

      Only 1 Missile Battery is delivered as first batch out of 3 Batteries ordered

  • @MrJohndoakes
    @MrJohndoakes 7 місяців тому +16

    5:51 The US military not being based there is the aftermath of the Ferdinand Marcos dictatorship collapsing. It was made very clear by the new government that the US leave, and they did, which is why the bases on Okinawa expanded.

    • @OG_Mac79
      @OG_Mac79 7 місяців тому +4

      They also re-opend several bases to the USA which is why we allowed them to buy iirc 200 aircraft a few years ago and we have been training them on how to use them.

    • @youarebeingtrolled6954
      @youarebeingtrolled6954 7 місяців тому

      @@OG_Mac79ya cuz marcos jr wants daddys frozen assets

  • @debivort
    @debivort 7 місяців тому +10

    This is my favorite genre of GR video.

  • @hasina1461
    @hasina1461 7 місяців тому +16

    both sides hit the FIRE EVERYTHING button at the start

  • @SomeoneFromBeijing
    @SomeoneFromBeijing 7 місяців тому +18

    With all that fancy and expensive technology, it ended up being a WWII-style dogfight. Man, I hate wars.

    • @leexingha
      @leexingha 7 місяців тому +5

      this is only a simulator. even a Chinese citizen like me can conclude that our airforce will lose horribly one-sided against US airforce in a dogfight & this is very obvious. our design is not all-rounded perfect unlike the US but rather focusing on its sole purpose. our tech still have some missing gaps so we only do watever is available. we rely on long-range tactics & our missile force (a separate branch) serves as the backbone. actually, its on the question of how good we can locate the enemies before they could locate us

    • @dexlab7539
      @dexlab7539 7 місяців тому +4

      Exactly, the Ukraine war has turned into WW1 trench warfare due to drones too

  • @GMCGUY-
    @GMCGUY- 7 місяців тому +7

    Grim reapers The best youtube channel hands down. Thank you, valid Viewers lol I love it. You all way explain everything that is going on so people understand everything much beter. Excellent job.❤❤❤❤

  • @HT-Blindleader
    @HT-Blindleader 7 місяців тому +13

    Salvo mode was wicked, now you have to redo all of the naval battle series......

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  7 місяців тому +8

      yes, yes I do.

    • @OG_Mac79
      @OG_Mac79 7 місяців тому +3

      @@grimreapersWhat I am hoping for is a tutorial on HOW and WHAT you changed to get the lofting missiles and the swarm salvo attacks. Maybe sweet talk Dark into doing a how to for us to learn it. Maybe some of us valued viewers will do scenarios for you then saving you some time and effort and still fly a great video like the ones from Matrix and donator videos.

  • @leepatterson5710
    @leepatterson5710 7 місяців тому +11

    Talk about blue balls, turning it off just as the Chinese carrier is getting hit!

  • @FA-ft9sq
    @FA-ft9sq 7 місяців тому +10

    Finally! Been waiting for you guys to start including the Philippines in Taiwan contingency scenarios ever since the country had a dramatic shift of bilateral relations with the USA starting last year.

  • @sweatybotfn9982
    @sweatybotfn9982 7 місяців тому +15

    “Big, modern, powerful sticks”- G-R 2024

    • @dexlab7539
      @dexlab7539 7 місяців тому +1

      ….and demonetized

  • @cg9952
    @cg9952 7 місяців тому +24

    The Chinese water cannoned some Philippines ships over that beached ship yesterday

    • @leexingha
      @leexingha 7 місяців тому +5

      it doesnt look like a ship to me but boats

    • @ADR1fley
      @ADR1fley 7 місяців тому +5

      @@leexingha Farming social credit in the comments are we?

    • @leexingha
      @leexingha 7 місяців тому +1

      @@ADR1fley nope. we are farming SCS

    • @axizcorp
      @axizcorp 7 місяців тому

      it was a civilian boat old dilapidated boat 😂

    • @axizcorp
      @axizcorp 7 місяців тому +4

      the Philippines is smart enough not to send any modern and expensive boat. the Philippines is just playing with the ccg.

  • @elijah_9392
    @elijah_9392 7 місяців тому +11

    I think the primary advantage US 4th gen fighters have is engine power and EW/ECM capabilites. The latter of which may not be easy to model.

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  7 місяців тому +4

      Yeh I can't really model ECM advantages.

    • @elijah_9392
      @elijah_9392 7 місяців тому +1

      @@grimreapers
      Thank you for responding. I love the team and show.

  • @emmata98
    @emmata98 7 місяців тому +5

    38:52 I would say a slight win for the US on the flottila-front, since they just can get back to the next port to rearm, whereas one enemy ship is in need of heavy reapairs (out for at least a couple of weeks, maybe months) and one is damaged (so probably at a week of repair added). So in the next encounter the US would have all it's ships vs 1 or even 2 ships less from the Chinese and that advantage would only rise with time

    • @collinwood6573
      @collinwood6573 7 місяців тому +3

      Keep in mind they cut out the aftermath. There are still the other US bases in the area within range plus the Philippines aircraft can land and rearm with anti ship missiles. The Chinese task force had nothing left to defend themselves so they would have all been sunk within the next two to three hours.
      The US forces are likewise out of missiles but are much closer to friendly territory with enemy reinforcements being much less certain and they therefore have a much higher chance of escape.

    • @LordHusky01
      @LordHusky01 7 місяців тому +5

      ​@@collinwood6573 I don't think China is disadvantaged if you count the aftermath. They have 6-7 airfields within 1000km of the Scarborough Shoal. PLARF has also got a range of cruise and ballistic missiles such as the CJ-10 and DF-21D. No ship would survive till replenishment in such a fight...

  • @kolbysample4387
    @kolbysample4387 7 місяців тому +7

    Ya more naval battles. They are my favorite

  • @lippertwe
    @lippertwe 7 місяців тому +3

    Good simple simulation. I love stealth planes and stealth missiles - but after a while they can also be a bit dull especially when fighting non-stealthy adversaries.

    • @ronaldvincegalacio5596
      @ronaldvincegalacio5596 7 місяців тому

      Same thought, that's what's on my mind when the taiwan starts to build stealth boats. I mean, they're fighting the front lines, so that won't help it.

  • @sweatybotfn9982
    @sweatybotfn9982 7 місяців тому +12

    China has 9 055 destroyers, all of which will be sent down south in this likely situation, without mentioning cooperate strike from the rocket force, J-20s, J-10s, J-16Ds and H-6K. All of which can easily reach strike distance without areal refueling

    • @STURYANPHUAYEWLIANG
      @STURYANPHUAYEWLIANG 7 місяців тому +2

      The buildup would most likely be noticed tho

    • @sweatybotfn9982
      @sweatybotfn9982 7 місяців тому +1

      @@STURYANPHUAYEWLIANG it would make no difference. A single carrier group will be detected just as well as everything else, plus, no one will know it’s a real strike until the “sticks” start flying

    • @ironwind7538
      @ironwind7538 6 місяців тому +2

      This will ends the game too soon. Too boring for a youtube video.

    • @ironwind7538
      @ironwind7538 6 місяців тому

      @@sweatybotfn9982 So this video simulates a US sneak attack on China like Attack on Pearl Harbor? We all know what happened after Pearl Harbor...

    • @sweatybotfn9982
      @sweatybotfn9982 6 місяців тому

      @@ironwind7538 fair point

  • @douglasarthur2673
    @douglasarthur2673 7 місяців тому +10

    Cap and his FIRE EVERYTHING button !!! 😂

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  7 місяців тому +6

      Best button for sure!

    • @dexlab7539
      @dexlab7539 7 місяців тому

      My wife says I FIRE EVERYTHING a bit too soon 😂

  • @johnmichaelsuba8714
    @johnmichaelsuba8714 2 місяці тому

    im watching your videos every morning breakfast and was surprised that you got a situation like this for Philippines, i enjoy these scenarios everytime! cheers mate!

  • @ryanc00p3r3
    @ryanc00p3r3 7 місяців тому +10

    Now, would you make another senario like this but with a JAS39C Gripen in 14 and 3 battery Bramos Anti Ship Missile Launcher?

  • @mikeycraig8970
    @mikeycraig8970 7 місяців тому +5

    Your reminder to watch the whole briefing was certaily recieved. It landed straight on that bit after id skipped 😂. Sort of felt personal so I've rewound and am watching the entirety 😂

  • @markvilla8703
    @markvilla8703 7 місяців тому +3

    In a future video, Brahmos antiship missiles might need to be considered.

  • @seabedsand
    @seabedsand 7 місяців тому +3

    China added a rule a few years ago that if an aircraft carrier is hit and can use nuclear weapons, the United States will fight a nuclear war for the Philippines?

  • @Tomdog83
    @Tomdog83 7 місяців тому +11

    What happened with the anti ship at the end..?

  • @lupiarch9784
    @lupiarch9784 7 місяців тому +9

    I hope a Philippine Senator sees this video. Thank you for a comprehensive and very enlightening simulation of a battle in SCS / WPS.
    P.S. Doesn't the Chinese artificial islands have any land based batteries?

  • @FA-ft9sq
    @FA-ft9sq 7 місяців тому +10

    iI hope you guys can do a rerun once the Philippines get their two or three squadron of Gripens (C) and more Brahmos in a couple of years. I believe they also ordered more HiMars as well.

    • @leexingha
      @leexingha 7 місяців тому +1

      ur country had no money

    • @ctu22
      @ctu22 7 місяців тому

      ​@@leexingha"has no" speak properly cunt

    • @garyangeles6959
      @garyangeles6959 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@leexinghayou sure gutter oil and bat soup eater?

    • @leexingha
      @leexingha 6 місяців тому

      @@garyangeles6959 we also eat dog, happy?

  • @dwarvensmith80
    @dwarvensmith80 7 місяців тому +4

    The US just pressed the big red FIRE EVERYTHING button at the start but why didnt you show what the fa-50 missiles did, unless they got intercepted at the end

  • @RES915SQD
    @RES915SQD 7 місяців тому +2

    I wonder if the US is going to load up a bunch of maritime strike tomahawks on a SSGN and use that for a swarm attack on PLAN shipping. Obviously can’t be modeled in DCS right now, but would be cool to see.

  • @terencyowens9491
    @terencyowens9491 7 місяців тому +3

    Cap, @ 39:30 the carrier is taking hits from the Ashm strike. Even if the Liaoning somehow stays afloat, it's out of action for the fight. If it was sunk, weeelllll... Win for blue force.
    Hope you do a rematch of this, with late 2020's weapons, assets, and force structures for both sides.

  • @edtvadventure
    @edtvadventure 7 місяців тому +3

    I hope you channel could create more of this kind DCS World Scenario. I hope you could create a model for the Philippine Navy Ships with current (HDF-2600) and with future acquisitions like HDC-3100

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  7 місяців тому

      Enjoy: ua-cam.com/play/PL3kOAM2N1YJdV_JwZaN1yGScRAb_yUTHx.html

  • @5Andysalive
    @5Andysalive 7 місяців тому +1

    the issue remains DCS's simple hitpoint system for ships. At least a ship should start getting disabled much earlier, long before it would be "destroyd". Launchers and stuff are probably out of order after a hit or 2.
    Moving that much further up the hitpoint scale should not be impossible at least.

  • @phillipeandreewich5993
    @phillipeandreewich5993 7 місяців тому

    Thankyou for making the missile combat way more realistic. Well demonstrates Defense saturation and “use it or loose it”.

  • @phillipeandreewich5993
    @phillipeandreewich5993 7 місяців тому +1

    I think the fleet that opens up first with anti ship missiles has an advantage because they begin firing just within their radar defection capabilities but the reacting fleet does not have/ have worse radar targeting information else they would have fired first. As such, the defending fleet would have to guide its anti ship missiles using real time satellites, indirect reconnaissance and weak radar signals, yielding lower missile reliability and an inherent disadvantage compared to the attacking fleet.

    • @phillipeandreewich5993
      @phillipeandreewich5993 7 місяців тому

      The weaker guidance and targeting of the defensively fired anti ship missiles is much more vulnerable to countermeasures and could be neutralised in terminal phase by purely electrical & optical measures

    • @slabszen
      @slabszen 6 місяців тому

      中国现在有10艘055。去查下这艘055信息。去年美国航母战斗群进入台湾海峡,一艘055逼退美国整个航母战斗群。这艘军舰全体官兵在中国获得最高荣誉。

  • @mfreed40k
    @mfreed40k 7 місяців тому +5

    Cap, that "I lied' line is getting beat up

  • @SnowRidaTravelsTheWorld
    @SnowRidaTravelsTheWorld 7 місяців тому +1

    CAP, can you PLEASE do a revision of this with the addition of JAS-39 Gripens? The Philippine government is currently in final negotiations to purchase JAS-39 Gripens, and it would be interesting to see how they would perform in this scenario.

  • @scottdelorenzi3513
    @scottdelorenzi3513 4 місяці тому

    Andersen AFB with an "e"...absolutely great channel!

  • @timallison8560
    @timallison8560 7 місяців тому +3

    been a long time since such a worthy battle

  • @McAllisterCo
    @McAllisterCo 7 місяців тому +7

    I know you do it to keep things fair but the US would never enter a near peer fight without using its fifth gen aircraft.

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  7 місяців тому +5

      Tried it in first version but was stupid as was too 1-sided.

    • @mng8680
      @mng8680 7 місяців тому

      China didnt use any of their 5th gen J20s in this fight either, I think theyre trying to simulate closely matched scenarios rather than realistic ones.

  • @mikecleverly7021
    @mikecleverly7021 7 місяців тому +1

    That AIM9X at 36 minutes, I think it was tracking and could have made the kill but the angle its seeker head was tracking the target went past 90 degrees and the seeker couldn't look hard right far enough so it lost it and stopped its hard turn... then it reacquired lock as the jet flew past its nose and it tracked again

  • @johnwycough1955
    @johnwycough1955 7 місяців тому +2

    Great video. Lots of good action. That salvo stuff is boss!!

  • @Buukii-buuchi
    @Buukii-buuchi 5 місяців тому +1

    I have a theory that reason why the philippine F-50 fighting eagles were taking so long was because they wanted the americans to be their vanguard or something like that

  • @mavrikmavrik3032
    @mavrikmavrik3032 7 місяців тому +3

    A successful defense is a sure win.

  • @jesseterrell2109
    @jesseterrell2109 7 місяців тому +2

    F15 is not going anywhere anytime soon the air force is already shipping out the first batch of F15xs that will serve well into the 2050s. We’re getting the first batch at pdx soon.

  • @eaches
    @eaches 7 місяців тому +1

    "swapping modern, powerful, sticks"... and not one "giggity". Oh, Cap has matured.

  • @raind4658
    @raind4658 7 місяців тому +7

    land based Brahmos missiles operated by the Philippine Marines is now online and could be a game changer

    • @jcvillanueva1015
      @jcvillanueva1015 7 місяців тому

      HAHAHA NO! PHILIPPINES HAS A FEW MISSILES IT WONT STOP HUNDREDS OR THOUSANDS OF MISSILES FROM CHINA!

    • @rarapost6146
      @rarapost6146 7 місяців тому

      I'd rather get ship with cruiser missile.
      India is a two faced country.
      They sell arms to Russia.
      Wont be surprised if they suddenly join China.
      Imagine a defective Brahmos sold to Philippines.
      Countries should be wary of India intent.

    • @clearheaded5696
      @clearheaded5696 7 місяців тому

      Game changer 😂, how far can the Brahmos reach?

    • @senpaispoilme
      @senpaispoilme 7 місяців тому +1

      not really, The Brahmos that the PH will receive will only have 300km range. not far enough to engage the chinese ships.

    • @ggmode9819
      @ggmode9819 7 місяців тому

      brother, you saw what can a destroyer group from chinese navy can do, and this is only 1 group which consist of several ships carrying a total of 400+ cruise missiles, in other words, PH needs 400+ brahmos batteries/missile to counter it all, how many brahmos batteries did PH purchased? I heard a total of 4 batteries which means a total of 16 missiles only

  • @vidabs
    @vidabs 7 місяців тому +2

    Great battle… I don’t think Japan will just sit down if this happens… And Australia would probably join the fray…
    If the Philippines successfully acquires F-16s and Gripen E fighters as reported, this will make the situation for the Chinese harder.

  • @lieutenantkettch
    @lieutenantkettch 7 місяців тому +4

    Does DCS have models for land-based BrahMos batteries like the Philippine Army has?

    • @JuanitoMechavez
      @JuanitoMechavez 7 місяців тому +3

      Onyx from Russia as they are of the same design.

  • @xenaguy01
    @xenaguy01 7 місяців тому +2

    Similar to The Battle of the Coral Sea, America foiled the plans of the enemy forces, while taking similar casualties.
    So, US/PI strategic victory, but tactical draw.

  • @JDVarman
    @JDVarman 7 місяців тому +2

    Do it again this time Include the Brahmos anti-ship missile, as the Philippines is about to receive the first batch of the System from India.

  • @anthonyb5279
    @anthonyb5279 7 місяців тому +6

    There are 9!!!! new US military bases in the Philippines. There were 200 F-16 delivered to the Philippines 2 years ago. Clark AFB has been reopened. Aegis Ashore has been deployed to some of those 9 bases. What units are at Clark is not disclosed as a mater of fact the south side of Clark has been tessellated out of Google maps. The US has a MASIVE presence in the Philippines. As far as visiting units they are there to train so they can be deployed there. You can count on some one being at Clark at any given time.

    • @eigenvalue5775
      @eigenvalue5775 7 місяців тому +2

      The US military is here!
      Pinoy Pride! 🤣🤣🤣😜

    • @MurderPierrot
      @MurderPierrot 7 місяців тому +3

      I don't what you're on but I want some of it 😆

    • @anthonyb5279
      @anthonyb5279 7 місяців тому

      @@MurderPierrot I trained the pilots. What do you do play games? Fuck off you don't know what is going on over there. www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/3383809/us-philippines-agree-to-modernize-strengthen-alliance/

    • @anthonyb5279
      @anthonyb5279 7 місяців тому

      @@MurderPierrot www.defense.gov/News/Releases/Release/Article/3349257/philippines-us-announce-locations-of-four-new-edca-sites/

    • @TroutofHate
      @TroutofHate 7 місяців тому +3

      Source on the 200 F-16s delivered to the PH pls....

  • @mcknight3483
    @mcknight3483 7 місяців тому +3

    What about the bramos missiles? What would be the outcome if they were already deployed when the PLA navy attack the Philippines?

    • @Krish-cz7tg
      @Krish-cz7tg 7 місяців тому

      Pla still don't have countermeasures against brahmos

    • @senpaispoilme
      @senpaispoilme 7 місяців тому +1

      won't have an effect, since we're only receiving the export variant which has a 290 km range only. not enough to reach the Chinese flotilla based on this scenario.

    • @Krish-cz7tg
      @Krish-cz7tg 7 місяців тому

      @@senpaispoilme but it can can destroy there flagship naval ship

    • @Krish-cz7tg
      @Krish-cz7tg 7 місяців тому

      And with warhead its can disable there aircraft carrier and without warhead its kinetic energy distroy any vessel

  • @sulyokpeter3941
    @sulyokpeter3941 7 місяців тому +9

    In the end the Chinese CV got hit by the anti-ship missiles and you skipped it! xD Doesnt matter anyways. So with this new addons and stuff, you can slowly re model all of the CSG battles. I want to see a UK vs US CSG battle. With all the modern UK and US assets available including the Type 26 Frigates.

  • @mauricehinton5889
    @mauricehinton5889 7 місяців тому +3

    Am I the only one who wanted to see and know if the air launched anti-ship missiles hit their targets?

    • @OG_Mac79
      @OG_Mac79 7 місяців тому +2

      Cap turned off the carriers ability to fire because it has the russian anti ship missiles on it that China doesnt have so it wouldnt be a valid "kill" on the CV so it was mainly about getting the destroyers taken out. One was dead and 2 were hit. The anti-ships from Philippian forces would have re-armed and attacked and the 2nd forces from Okinawa would have anti-ship weapons - so this fight was won and was over. They had no more missiles left to defend with so they would have been sunk.

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  7 місяців тому +1

      Yeh that's my bad guys (holds hands up)

  • @clevermusicbox3630
    @clevermusicbox3630 7 місяців тому +2

    What tech are you running Cap? What about other members? Are you VR laden, RTX4090? What's the server spec?

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  7 місяців тому +1

      ua-cam.com/video/eqOG75mXrwI/v-deo.html

  • @pahtar7189
    @pahtar7189 7 місяців тому +1

    The Space Shuttle was a hypersonic glider. ;-)

  • @mshahmirraza
    @mshahmirraza 7 місяців тому +2

    Hey Cap, as I have mentioned several times before PLAN also has short-range quad-packed missiles which if incorporated in this scenario will give PLAN an edge just like the US uses quad-packed ESSMs. PLAN ships are also unable to use their close range RAM system since its not facing the incoming barrage.

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  7 місяців тому

      Roger but we don't have them modelled in game yet.

  • @mortoopz
    @mortoopz 7 місяців тому +5

    Daymn, that was quite the fireworks show!

  • @chrisstopher2277
    @chrisstopher2277 7 місяців тому +2

    Great work as always Cap. I have no idea how you put out a new video every day with new ideas. War is amazingly interesting. I hope your health is doing better. Have a great Sunday sir.

  • @gregbrown3764
    @gregbrown3764 7 місяців тому +1

    I honestly wonder if SM6's would make better kinetic weapons than as explosive missiles in the antishipping role.

  • @jerrycallaio5130
    @jerrycallaio5130 7 місяців тому

    WOW!!! What An Opening Missile Volley From Both Sides!

  • @AndreiSM133
    @AndreiSM133 7 місяців тому

    You forgot one thing, the Attack Submarines, those Type 055 will not be sleeping heading home port

  • @bonedoc4556
    @bonedoc4556 7 місяців тому +1

    So 12 anti ship missles the Phillipines navy have and you don't launch because you think they're inconsequential. It's still 12 they'd have to account for and fire upon aiding to attrition and a couple might just get through.
    Also, DCS ships needs hit compartments like world of warships. That some ships took 3 hits and continued on as normal because it's based only on a health bar is messing with accuracy.

    • @STURYANPHUAYEWLIANG
      @STURYANPHUAYEWLIANG 7 місяців тому +1

      I think it’s because the phillipines ships don’t have the range in this engagement

    • @bonedoc4556
      @bonedoc4556 7 місяців тому

      @@STURYANPHUAYEWLIANG
      Maybe. Think I heard him say they are over the horizon capable.

  • @t.r.4496
    @t.r.4496 7 місяців тому +3

    Day 2 of asking Cap to recreate
    OPERATION BOLO
    Led by Col. Robin Olds, OPERATION BOLO used a brilliant deception tactic that destroyed half of the North Vietnamese MiG-21 fighter force, with no USAF losses. In late 1966, the USAF was not permitted to bomb North Vietnamese airfields and could only destroy enemy fighters in the air.

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  7 місяців тому +2

      It's on the list but will be a while before I can do it.

  • @grantgates2931
    @grantgates2931 7 місяців тому +2

    Enjoyed that. Just one question - could you time the launches of the hypersonics so they arrive at the same time a the mach 2 missiles? is it even possible?

    • @ironwind7538
      @ironwind7538 6 місяців тому +1

      And we all know that the United States currently does not have the ability to intercept hypersonic missiles...
      But he has to set it up this way because most of his UA-cam followers cannot accept the real situation.

  • @alexhu5491
    @alexhu5491 7 місяців тому +4

    The Chinese coast guard alone is 38 times stronger than the Philippine navy

    • @jurisalaurin8457
      @jurisalaurin8457 7 місяців тому

      China only have weapon power but if fight with combat maybe your bone will brake even your karate will not survive

    • @jkc3738
      @jkc3738 7 місяців тому

      @@jurisalaurin8457 What do you mean? little man

    • @lmn6335
      @lmn6335 6 місяців тому +1

      @@jkc3738 He's describing the real world

  • @emd-ef4lm
    @emd-ef4lm 7 місяців тому +1

    The Philippine Navy should introduce a 600mph(1000km/h) torpedo in the water. From Germany and Iran.
    The super torpedo can sink 6 Chinese aircraft carriers.
    If a 600mph torpedo is mounted on 100 one-ton small boats, Chinese warships cannot enter in the sea of the Philippines.
    A large Chinese warship cannot sink this small boat. The Philippines' coast guard ships should also be equipped with super torpedoes.

  • @SEEANDPEA
    @SEEANDPEA 7 місяців тому +1

    The simple answer is no. The Philippines need the assistance of other countries such as the US, Australia, Japan, and S. Korea for it to survive an all-out attack from China.

  • @capt.squiggly6354
    @capt.squiggly6354 7 місяців тому +4

    Would also say the point of the exercise was if China could take the Phillipines in a surprise attack, since they failed, regardless of how many ships/planes lost China lost the element of surprise and now has little to no chance of taking them in the future, as well as dragging the US into a war with nothing to bargain with in the future, so this would be almost the worst possible outcome for China, especially since the Leoyang was under fire and taking hits at the end

    • @OG_Mac79
      @OG_Mac79 7 місяців тому

      Those hits on the CV were not valid Cap had to turn off its ability to fire because it was using a russian carrier and they have missiles that China does not have. So it could not defend itself with sams or ciws

    • @capt.squiggly6354
      @capt.squiggly6354 7 місяців тому +1

      @@OG_Mac79 while true, point is still valid, China failed to take the objective with the element of surprise, therefore China lost the engagement, doubtful they would have another shot at it, and when/if they return it would be to a fortified American presence.

    • @jkc3738
      @jkc3738 7 місяців тому

      Tell me...Why doesn't the U.S. Navy block Russia's waterways now...The United States doesn't even dare to do this...What's the point of your discussion?

  • @yeeeehaaawbuddy
    @yeeeehaaawbuddy 7 місяців тому +9

    Could the Philippines survive a...
    ...no, they can't.

  • @Ma.JanineDaguison
    @Ma.JanineDaguison 6 місяців тому +1

    Watching from Philippines 😅 new subscriber

    • @user-7474mk
      @user-7474mk 6 місяців тому

      你美國爸爸在網絡為你加油 你們快點向中國開槍🤣😂🤣😂

  • @nealfryling619
    @nealfryling619 7 місяців тому +5

    Dcs has failed to properly represent the Russian carrier… that ship always sails with a tug boat

  • @nigeldepledge3790
    @nigeldepledge3790 7 місяців тому

    You know, sometimes I think Cap deliberately taunts the NCIS because he enjoys the body-cavity searches . . .

  • @craigmurrayauthor
    @craigmurrayauthor 4 місяці тому

    I've noticed you don't always "follow through" after the air battle portion. I am always interested in seeing what the simulation would end up with from a naval survivability point of view.

  • @StoopidBishop
    @StoopidBishop 7 місяців тому

    Thanks Cap!

  • @ojaspatki772
    @ojaspatki772 7 місяців тому

    Correction: Philippines does have over the horizon anti ship capability since it recently acquired a few batteries of the Indo-Russian BrahMos anti ship cruise missiles.

  • @jimmymcgoochie5363
    @jimmymcgoochie5363 7 місяців тому

    The sea battle: Blue victory. One red cruiser crippled, likely scuttled if it didn’t sink outright, another damaged by missiles to the face; no blue ships hit, token boat parked on contested islands.
    The air battle: Blue victory. All red planes shot down, leaving the carrier fleet with no air cover; some blue planes remain, anti-ship strike launched.
    Overall: Blue victory. Red failed to capture the objective and took significant damage trying.

  • @xiaofengwang9541
    @xiaofengwang9541 7 місяців тому +4

    Let's face the reality not a game, Filipinos.

    • @Webofchains
      @Webofchains 7 місяців тому

      The reality is your army is crap . 😅

    • @NihilRefertSubSole13
      @NihilRefertSubSole13 7 місяців тому

      @@Webofchains yes. they have water-filled missiles i've heard lmao. so much for the Propaganda Army nice CCP.

    • @lowi3833
      @lowi3833 7 місяців тому

      ​@@Webofchains yeah correct ccp tofu navy is crap. paper army with no real war experience 😂

    • @jkc3738
      @jkc3738 7 місяців тому

      @@lowi3833 experience?advanced weapons...sneak attack ... It did not allow Nazi Germany to win against the Soviet Union..you know why?

    • @xiaofengwang9541
      @xiaofengwang9541 7 місяців тому

      I don't know which country you come from, buddy. But I know our army must have kicked your butt before.@@Webofchains

  • @TheRaginCajun6
    @TheRaginCajun6 7 місяців тому +3

    This is great. I live here in the Philippines👍🏻👏🏻

  • @estampamateo1701
    @estampamateo1701 7 місяців тому

    I'm new to the channel and this is so awesome content. I love to see more. *adrenaline rush*

  • @kimannepark4709
    @kimannepark4709 7 місяців тому +1

    Batanes, Palawan, Clark and Subic would be very critical in the defense of the PH.

  • @dengma8246
    @dengma8246 7 місяців тому +1

    Yes, it can. With the help USA , Japan and Australia.and maybe some ASEAN members

  • @thakard
    @thakard 7 місяців тому +4

    I can't believe you didn't comment on the China CV taking a direct hit.

    • @lieutenantkettch
      @lieutenantkettch 7 місяців тому

      He didn't want to compromise his social credit score.

    • @Iamp-itt
      @Iamp-itt 7 місяців тому

      I believe your social score must be very low@@lieutenantkettch

  • @theswiller85
    @theswiller85 7 місяців тому +2

    15:39 this is fkn bonkers

  • @therealbmaphill
    @therealbmaphill 7 місяців тому +5

    How does one go ChumbaWumber 🤔

    • @dexlab7539
      @dexlab7539 7 місяців тому +1

      If he told you, he’s have to eliminate you 😂

    • @therealbmaphill
      @therealbmaphill 7 місяців тому

      YIKES!!
      @@dexlab7539

  • @Erik_123
    @Erik_123 7 місяців тому +3

    23:15 what's this about NCIS? I missed it

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  7 місяців тому +5

      I got investigated by NCIS a few weeks ago because of some of our Wargames. Haven't heard anything since so presume I've been cleared.

    • @Erik_123
      @Erik_123 7 місяців тому +3

      @@grimreapers Wow, what a great use of taxpayers' dollars. I guess that's what happens when your google search is just millions of questions about missle and airplane technology. Quite a compliment in the end

    • @dexlab7539
      @dexlab7539 7 місяців тому

      @@grimreapersBest of luck to you Cap - NCIS is absolutely stupid to go after you imo

  • @trev8591
    @trev8591 7 місяців тому +3

    Did he just go Chumbawumba or FULL Chumbawumba?

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  7 місяців тому +1

      This may actually be a FULL.

  • @jimboAndersenReviews
    @jimboAndersenReviews 7 місяців тому +3

    The kitten and, I enjoyed this.