Makita LS1219L Unbox and set-up
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- Опубліковано 18 гру 2019
- In this video I receive a Makita LS1219L Miter saw for the workshop. I show the unbox and set-up . And talk about the reasons I picked this saw and what I do and don't like about it.
Link to Jackman Works Miter saw station.
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I really appreciate you doing this review and honesty in your comments.
I’ve got this saw, but it’s still in its box. It’s good to see what’s waiting for me when I finally get round to opening it. Thanks for taking the time to make and upload this video, very informative and just what I need. Nicely done too.
Great saw. Thanks for watching!
Thanks so much for making this video. I was going between dewalt makita and Bosch, you helped me make up my mind. I went with the makita and I'm happy with the purchase. Thanks so much for helping me make up my mind and not worrying if the other one was better
Mike that's great to hear. Hope you enjoy it as much as I enjoy mine!
Me vino muy bien éste vídeo. Justo estaba buscando una dual. La dewalt cuesta un poco mas. Siempre fui fanático de Makita. Entusiasma su forma de presentar las máquinas así que me convenció y compraré una. Aquí cuesta 650 dólares (dólar blue, el dólar de la calle). Gracias y un abrazo desde Argentina.
I've just got the 36v version best saw ever love using it every day.
I really appreciate you doing this review/unboxing/setup because there aren’t really any good videos about this particular saw on UA-cam. This beautiful saw has definitely been on my wish list for quite a while now. It’s going to be my next miter saw! So I think you just sealed my decision. One improvement I wish Makita would make to this saw as well as the 10” version, Is to add an LED light just like the DeWALT dws780 has instead of a laser, that’s far more accurate and precise(especially when working indoors). That’s would be a very nice upgrade to an already great saw.
When I buy this saw I’m going to add a 12” diablo 100 tooth blade to get the ultimate cut quality for fine woodworking purposes.
Thanks again for this amazing review/unboxing/setup. I hope you enjoy your new saw! I’m looking forward to seeing your follow up review on this saw.
Thank you so much for the Kind words.Yes, I also wish it had a light. The laser is handy for quickly placing your work under the path of the blade but I always make my final positioning by eye. Since the video I had a little issue with this thing staying square. It seemed like a some times it was then sometimes it wasn't. After spending a lot of time trying to correct it. I determined it to be blade deflection. So your choice of an upgraded blade is wise. I would recommend a heavier blade. Let me know how that Diablo works out for you. Thanks again!
John Kidd that makes sense, it most likely is blade deflection like you said. A good quality 1/8” blade would most likely correct the blade deflection. I’ll definitely let you know how the diablo works out, it should be a huge difference compared to the stock Makita blade. I also only buy Makita and DeWALT tools lol
Thanks for the review I bought one today.
Hope you enjoy it!
Hey John, thanks for the great and thorough review. I was just about to hit the purchase button on my local dealers web page when I thought to ask you how the saw is holding up a couple years in.
thanks again and yes, I did hit the subscribe and notifications buttons.
Shes holding up just fine. I left it out in a 3 sided barn for a month or 3 while was redoing my kitchen. It was super damp out there and I got surface rust on the slide rails. Pissed about that but my own damn fault. Steel rusts. So keep them rails well oiled. Good saw. Heavy as a tank. Specially if you mount on a mobile base. The whole package will give ya a hernia to lift. To bad they didn't put a light on it.
I just watched you share all of those measurements of the saw which no doubt were helpful to many. The one measurement I am looking for is from the back of the saw to the front face of the fence. I already have a miter station with fences to the left and right and am hoping to be able to keep them as is and drop the Makita in. The key measurement is face of the fence to the back, including clearance for vac hose.
Just ordered this at HD, coming in a week. Really appreciated your tutorial and review.
Your welcome. Let me know what you think.
John Kidd came dead on right out of the box... isn’t the dewalt it replaces, it’s better. Will take a while to figure everything out and make it an extension of me like the last one... but I’m pretty impressed. Thanks again for the great tutorial.
Great description ! Nice Job
Doing my research, I recently purchased the DeWalt 779. So far it is a great saw but like you said, it takes a lot of room. It will stay in my shop and never on a site. But I am going to have to design my table to house the saw. I too am a Makita person but I got the DeWalt at a $200 off sale so I make the purchase from Home Depot. I came to my house with the box beat all the hell. Kinda pissed me off that the carriers don't give a damn about you equipment. Luckly, the saw was set up at the factory perfect and no issues being damaged other than the box. Now I wish I had checked out the Makita closer. I might have purchased it instead of the DeWalt. I have a couple of Makita tool, circular saw and jig saw that are near 30 years old and still kicking ass. Jerry South Carolina.
Felicitaciones desdeArgentina.. hermoso taller.. 👏👏👏👏
I got the 10 inch version but the plastic square was broken in three places so waiting for Makita to send me a replacement. Set it up just how it should be but blade is yet to be fitted but as soon as the square arrives it will be. Need to mitre kitchen wall cupboard pelmet pieces and get electrician to put light underneath. Job done. Good video clip as it is nice and slow to understand.
Just brought mine home...it's still in the box...and mine too replaces a Makita 10" sliding mitre.
Hi John, I wish they had this model on display at Home Depot but it wasn’t there. Was up in the air between the 10” vs the 12”, I ended up ordering the 12” inch today from homedepot and it will be shipped to my home from them, it was just over $800 out the door. My main reason for getting this saw is because of the rails and it can be put against the wall 2where the dewalt dw780 I had could not be. If it doesn’t work out it’s going back.
A big big thank you, this is great. Glad blade can be locked off at any height. Awesome saw, buying one now.
Glad I could help
Yep. A lot of crap stuff comes out of China but turns out that Covid was pretty efficient and well-conceived. Nice saw, bought mine a couple of years ago and never regretted it.
John, great video with loads of good solid relevant footage. I have been looking for one of these and your video has been really informative
Thank you. Im glad it helped and appreciate your comment!
Very fair review! Thanks!
Is the band saw review available?
Sorry I haven't got to it. But I can tell you I Love it! But I wish I sprung for the foot break model
Thanks for the review. This is my next miter saw.
James Ratcliff yes should love it. I like this one more and more every time I use it!
Hey john can you do a follow up video on how your liking this saw? And could you possibly show it more in action cutting stuff? Thanks!!
Absolutely! Great Idea.
I like this guy, seems like a good soul
Thank you.
@@johnkidd2067 thanks to this video I purchased this saw and im loving it.
I can't figure out dust collect what kind of adapter did you use to hook up to a shop vac or dust separator?
I use a hose from Rockler.com
www.rockler.com/dust-right-flexiport-power-tool-hose-kit-with-auxiliary-ports-3-to-12-expandable
Definitely a good review and a saw worth looking at. I've been debating this saw or even the 10 inch model to replace my old hitachi 12 inch chop saw. I really like makita tools and wish that you could see them more in stores
I saw one on display at Lowe's
Hi John. Enjoyed your video as I'm thinking about this saw to replace my existing (same as the one you replaced). I can't find the overall length of the say front-to-back when set at the extreme miter setting. I have a really tight space and am curious how narrow I can collapse it down to when not is use and can't find that info anywhere. Is that something you'd be willing to measure?
Thanks for the excellent video quality and information. I've been researching a while now and am headed out shortly to get myself the LS1219. Can you advise on whether you lose any cutting depth capacity (due to the fence or guard interfering) when turned to 45 in either direction? What has pushed me over the edge with replacing my current saw is the inability to cut a 4" tall piece while turned to 45. Everything I've seen/read has me excited to add to my Makita collection... thanks again.
Yes, you do. The specs are on Makita's website. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for detailed review. I am considering this model for my jobsite finish carpentry work. I make storage/transport cases for my miter saws. Could you please add to the thorough set of measurements you provided: the minimum inside dimensions (LxWxH) that a case would need in order to fit the saw with head locked in the down position and miter angle set to whatever angle makes the overall footprint the smallest? (I currently run Dewalt DW706 non-slider, and its optimum transport miter angle is its max., 50 deg. But with this slider and its exceptionally wide miter angle capacity, I suspect that the optimum angle to minimize transport footprint might be less than the max. available.) Thanks.
Hi John, thanks for the video. I'm assuming you still have the saw. I am wondering what the dimension from the back of the saw to the front of the fence is? Thanks in advance.
Hi John
Love the video
Can you tell me the Tooth count on that blade or the part number on the blade as I couldn’t see a close up of it
Hi, do you know how deep the bed is on this saw? Great review btw👍
hello thanks great video . please what is the distance from the front bench bolt hole to the back of the saw as i only have 65 cm bench
Great video
I have same saw
I have problem when cutting 45°
Right 45 is perfect
But left 45 when I put 2 pieces together doesnt close 90 straight
Where can be problem?
Can I ask… how did you connect the rockler dust hose? I have a new saw but if seems like I’m missing an adapter for that connection.
Hello, I can't decide, the Milwaukee 12 in or makita.
What way do you turn the allan key to unlock the nut to put the blade in?
There's junk from China, USA, UK, and Germany. Also very good stuff from all 4. It depends on specification by the brand and what customers will pay. Makita found non-Japanese simply won't pay for their made in Japan stuff so they only sell that in Japan. Mafell slowly building up a market in USA. About 30 years ago, tradesmen started buying cheap tools they threw away when job done. Developers started building houses at bottom cost and quality level put a lot of skilled guys out of work, replaced with what we, in UK, call cowboy builders. Now, there is demand for quality work that pays tradespeople to invest in tools like in older days.
Thanks for confirming my leaning towards Makita for semi retired shop fit out
So is this saw made in China? If so why even pay this money for it when I can buy a Chinese Hercules for under 400? Has great reviews too
Sweet
I just watched a video about how the detent plate is made of soft aluminum and wears out very quickly. This man, along with other people hew knows found a company that can make them in stainless steel. He has them for sale on his website for $110.00 Canadian. He showed how the sides of the detents wear from the locking pin. According to him, Makita has no plans on fixing the problem, but this was a year old video and so far I can't find an update if they changed their mind. If you key in Makita Miter Saw in the UA-cam search area you'll quickly find the video titled number one problem. I was seriously thinking of buying this saw, but now, probably not.
I saw that video. My detent plate is fine and is replaceable for 3.99. Im not worried about it. If it wears out I will buy a new one .
@@johnkidd2067 That's good to know. Thank you
Great information one question. How far is the fence from the back of the saw, or if pushed up against the back wall how far is the fence from the wall ? Thank you
I believe I answered that question further down in the comments. Next time im down in the shop Ill measure that for you.
Made 2 straight cuts and then I tried 1 beveled cut saw locked in that position and won’t unlock
John - how are you liking this saw almost a year later? Any issues with the rails not being parallel as evidenced by dishing on wide cuts (note: this is supposedly correctable by loosening the two - very tight - allen head bolts on the "block" there at the front of the rails putting a 1X2 between the rails and giving it a twist slightly - and hen doing test cuts until it is accurate)? What about mushrooming of the detents on the miter plate? Any regrets or do you still love it?
Check down aways I just answered that question.
Does LS1219L a depth stop for making notches?
Hello, i bought the saw yesterday, there is one issue though, the Guard Plate "part number 347308-4" is moving left to right and vice versa when pushed by hand, even if i push it from left to right it touches the blade below the teeth line, is that normal?
Man! I was so hoping you would measure the height of the base from the bench top. Any chance you could measure? I called makita and they didn’t even know. I’m debating on this saw to replace my ridgid mainly just for the dust collection but curious as to whether I’ll need to modify my mitre station.
I've been looking for this online as well. Any chance you've found that measurement yet?
How do you cut crown molding if the fence risers need to be removed for beveled cuts? Also what kind of work do you use it for, deck building or finish carpentry?
You would move the side thats in the way. I do all kinds of work with this saw. Just finished some crown on top of my new wall cabinets. Worked wonderfully for that. But it mostly lives in a permanent location in my wood shop as a all around chop box. I even cut rough cut slabs with it. Thanks
What did you use to hook up to its dust collection port? I saw another video where the guy had trouble finding the right part/size to hook on.
www.rockler.com/dust-right-flexiport-power-tool-hose-kit-3-to-12-expandable
Just bought this and its missing the "grip" knob for the "turn base". It's part 21 in the manual. Can anyone send me dimensions of what it is so I can machine one, or tell me where to get a replacement in Canada? Thanks.
The notch mechanism on the Bosch is plastic, with a plastic detent tooth...it had slop before any wear, one of the major reasons I passed on it.
I can't decide whether to get the LS1219L or the XSL08PT. I'm working in a shop as well but I like the idea of a brushless motor. Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
If it was in a shop i would just go with a plug in unit. But to each his own.
The jumping on startup with the DeWalt is annoying but you kinda put up with it like there is no alternative. Nice to know he Makita has the soft start feature. I want to keep my big DeWalt but keep it for mobility. Put the Makita in the shop integrated into cabinets.
Does this machine have a depth stop to control or limit blade depth into the wood. Urgent request. Thanks
Yes
Anyone know what the deck height on this is?
man that is one sexy beast of a saw
Can you tell me your dust collection pieces. Looks like rock let’s blue end but it also looks like you have another adapter put into the stock hose first. I can’t get an adapter to work with mine
Just a Rockler hose shoved onto the stock saw outlet.
what are you using for a dust collection hose and adapter that mates to the saw ?
Rockler kit
HELP!!! Thanks for posting this video. I've just purchased this saw and I'm trying to get the dust collection connected to my Rigid shop vac. What is that blue hose adapter you used on your saw and where do I buy it? Thanks for any help.
Rockler.com. Then a reducer on the other side to step it up to the shop vac hose.
@@johnkidd2067 Thanks for your help. Are the items in this link the correct parts? www.rockler.com/dust-right-flexiport-power-tool-hose-kit-12-fixed-length Thanks again for the help? Just want to make sure I'm getting the right parts.
Thats it.
I have watched several videos looks like laser is always to the left, i think it was meant to show the part that would be left, how has the saw been holding up?
Its holding up well. But glad I have a 10' for portable work. And yes the Laser marks the side3 of the blade which it should. Middle of the blade wouldn't Accurate.
Do you mind measuring the height of the Makita while locked down? Thanks, I appreciate it.
Ill get that for you first thing tomorrow!
In the locked down position it is 19 3/8" tall
@@johnkidd2067 thanks bud
Would you agree that the trick to cutting a clean cross cut trench or mortise, with a flat bottom, is to push the saw blade carefully and slowly forward, and to use a super sharp Diablo blade ? Trying to prevent the arm from flexing which would cause the saw to bounce and create an uneven base in the mortise, Obviously, put a sacrificial spacer against the rail so that the lowest part of the blade traverses across the entire width of the mortise. Never done a mortise using this saw. Easy you think ?
Yes, like you said. Careful not to flex the blade. And of course a sharp blade. Thanks for watching!
Need to trench cut mortise joints, by sliding located saw back and forth, can it do it ?Thanks
Yes It has an adjustable depth stop.
Hé John, nice video! What is the max hight you can saw? I understand that the dept is max 90 mm but I want to know if I can saw 150x150 beems with this thing (in to times, front en back). So what is the max. hight between the saw and the under plaid? Thanks!
Next time im in the shop ill throw a tape on it for ya.
@@johnkidd2067 Thanks!!!!
Nice review, Just ordered one. Did you ever do a follow up video?
Unfortunately no. Haven't had time.
Thanks John. Still happy with it? Any negatives it gotchas?
Its got a bit of blade deflection/wobble that makes getting it perfectly square hard. Because when the blade is stopped its square. But when spinning she comes out of true. But only noticeable when doing super precise work. I think a heavier blade would solve the problem. Check yours. square it and make a cut then flip it over and see if it stays true. Id be interested in hearing your findings...
Will let you know when it arrives in a few weeks
@@LivingSmallLivingMobile1
Well?
Nice review video, I am looking to purchase this saw, really confused between Dewalt Dw 780 and Makita 1219, price wise both are same in India. After 11 months of making this video, do you have any experience to share, is there something which is concerning in this saw, how is the accuracy so far, I have a makita table saw and had some issues with it, and spend lot of time fixing it, let me know the feedback. Thanks
No Problems. Great saw!
Such a beautiful saw, I had one but sadly had to send it back, I did this because I found that when I made a full crosscut there was cupping, not much maybe about one mm but it was noticeable, I believe this is caused by one of the bearing sliding posts being out of alignment, have you noticed this in your saw?
Yes sometimes. Im thinking blade deflection. Very small amount but noticeable on critical cuts. I plan on a blade upgrade then Ill but the results in the comments.
@@johnkidd2067 Thankyou John for your reply, I had this saw on trial and it's a beautiful machine to look at and use, but sadly for my kind of work the cupping was a deal breaker, but I wish you well pal, regards Louie
@@johnkidd2067 If you think problem lies with blade, what about adding blade stabilizer (or would arbor nut structure not allow this)?
Anyone know why the (perfectly tightened) blade would start to be unstable and kick back every time I attempt a 45 degree cut on a 2x4?
Maybe the way the blades facing?? Installed wrong?
I'd be interested in a follow up like many have said. I was ready to buy the corded version last year but held off because of a flaw another carpenter found. The detent plate in aluminum and us prone to wear at the detents. He had teamed up with someone to make a stainless after market detent plate. I ended up getting a dewalt 779 and added the light kit to make it a 780. The dewalts are used by the vast majority of trim guys for a reason. The work and are accurate. I too was disappointed in the large size since I use it in a shop. Most users are using it outside on a stand so the size isn't an issue. It replaced a Ridgid SCMS that I couldn't get square. I'm still considering the makita because it's slide system seems really well designed and I'd love the space savings
That detent plate is a 10$ replacement part. I wouldn't let it hold u back.
Can you tell me how far it miters to the left and right?
William Farkas 60 degrees left and right, which is a great feature and unlike some other saws like the DeWALT dws780 can only go 50 degrees left and 60 degrees right
it seems your laser guide is a bit out of line, very awsome review
The Laser lays down to the left edge of the blade.
@@johnkidd2067 yes i know o mean one of the edge of the láser like, is Just a little bit
Hey, the Dustcollection is upsidedown.... if you swap it the moving part will not be connected to your shopdustcollector
But other than this great video!
@@powertriprecords9832 Thanks Ill check that out. The saw is currently on the mobile stand in the back of the van. That saw plus the stand is a heavy haul.
Hi dose it have an adjustable depth stop for trench cuts
Yes
Unboxing start at 5:17
Hey John, the video that you made of the ls1219l was very helpful for me. Have one question--- what is the measurement from the front of the fence to the back of the saw. I have about 16" plus-- from my fence to the
wall. Thanks, Keith
15" your good
How Is the saw going ? thinking about getting one.
The saw is still going strong. This one or the Bosch are solid choices.
have you noticed any wear on the detents that throw it out of spec?
No
Did you ever take that little flap off or have you gotten use to it?
I just got use to it.
If the saw is mounted as close to the rear wall as possible, can you provide the dimension from the wall to the front face of the fence? In other words, how close can you get the fence to the rear wall? I can't seem to find this dimension anywhere online.
Ill get that for you
@@johnkidd2067 No need. I just bought the saw. It's 15 1/4 inches. By the way, in trying to square up the saw for miter, I'm finding if I square the fence to the blade while retracted, it isn't square to how the saw tracks when sliding. That means that the saw blade is not calibrated to be straight with the rails. I found a blog post where the guy claims that this is because the rail assembly becomes twisted during shipping. The fix is to loosen the two set screws near the front of the rails and re-align. Nothing in the manual about that.
@@tomkowalewski15 does this 15 1/4 inch include space for the saw to turn and attach dust extraction?
Hi ! woul you help me decide between the makita or the dewalt 780 ? THANKS!!1
I would go with the Makita!
@@johnkidd2067 THANKS!!
Been looking for some reviews on this saw. Thank you. I am looking to upgrade my 10" Makita (same as your old one). this was very helpful. I did come across another channel that has the new saw style. He changed the angle detent piece to one made of stainless steel. Check out Stene Woodwork, I believe he is selling them. That would be a good replacement to the aluminum detent ring.
Lee Eckl thank you. Ive been pretty happy with it. You many want to upgrade to a heavier blade to cut down on deflection. I’m getting a little. But 12” blades do that sometimes.
4:45 I'm kinda disappointed by you not carrying a Swiss Army Knife. 😉
Nice review, though.
Lol! Me too. Thanks for watching!
Thanks John, great video! I’m considering this saw and as you mentioned there is a lack of info out there regarding dimensions. Can you please tell what the height of the base is to the top of of the saw bed?
Look further down in the the comments. I'm just I've answered this a couple times.😂 If you cant find it let me know.
I should have figured haha thanks
What's the measurement from the fence the back of the slide
14 3/4"
@@johnkidd2067 whats that in normal messuring 😀
What is the year of releasing this model?
Im not sure on that. Let me know if you find out. The saw is still doing great. Thanks
What is the minimum distance from the wall
I think i answered rhis question in an earlier question/comment
Dust Collection how do you rate it?
I think its the best one going for a slide saw. Its what made me pick this one over the Bosch.
What is the distance from the back of the saw to the front of the fence?
15"
@@johnkidd2067 Thank You. Amazon is delivering mine next week!
What is the base height?
3-3/4"
Great review. Alot of good info and worth every minute. Can you purchase the 10inch model and do it the same way? Ha,ha.
Im sure that 10" is a great saw and Lighter! Thanks for watching!
Curious to know how has it held up so far?
She doing great. But got a little surface rust on the rails when left in a very humid barn once.
@@johnkidd2067 OK good to know.
@@johnkidd2067 that’s concerning. I have a cheap(the cheapest) harbor freight 12” sliding dual bevel sitting in a very humid(water stands on floor with heavy rain) old barn in the upper Midwest and not. Speck of rust on it. Been about 8yrs now
That looks like one he'll of a saw .health a wear .with it
just bought a new makita compound miter saw LS1219L. I can only lock the bevel at 0 degrees with the nob and not the latch leaver. That does not seam correct, just want to know if this is correct operation, as my previous saw locked at 0 degrees
Yes That sounds right.
Like you, I hate to purchase stuff from China but, it is most times Tiawan which don't consider themselves belonging to the mainland China. That might be a plus, I don't know.
Wow you just cant get a good tool ready to go out of the box anymore. I guess the factory workers dont take the time anymore to calibrate probably since they are under the whip to push product out the door faster and faster, so you get to spend special time with your tool before you can use it, then fiddle, adjust, fiddle, adjust. I could see you raised your eyebrow a few times, hopefully you dont regret the purchase. I had the LS1212, now I need a new one since there are too many fails now after 15 years of use.
What is the weight of this miter saw
81 lbs
John Kidd thanks
What’s wrong with made in china?
Hi, where is this saw made? Makita is Japanese so I’m hoping it’s not made in China.
Is there any flex from left to right ? Is the back fence in line when you put a measuring ruler on it ?
If you tug on it you can get about a 32nd or maybe a 16th of flex. And Im not understanding the second part of your question....
@@johnkidd2067 Thank you for your answer, Merry Christmas for you and your family . Sorry for my bad english, I'm from Germany.
What is the price??
@@sotojaime5649 I paid 628.00 on Amazon.
I try not to buy much from China, but it's a bloody hard job! Most stuff made there is utter garbage. I suppose with firms like Makita in charge of quality control that should give me a degree of assurance.
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