If buu was in the tournament the ultimate support when Goku went ui and had no energy, Vegeta after final explosion against toppo and the last episode of a miraculous team up would not have happened since the theories was mentioned buu can split up in small size and heal them so no elimination and also we might have seen the manga here jiren vs master roshi if he didn't eliminate himself and got healed up.. dude buu would have been OP and obviously Hercule would been in the deck directing him orders
@@surajhawk27 Its a missed opportunity to see how toriyama could have wroten the TOP way better. But nope, just get rid of a character altogether instead...what a pain.
So to win here is the dream team : 2 white hair mthrfckrs 1 purple hair btch 1 n-*** 1 orange alien 1 fuckin unlimited energy 1 idk where power comes but green hair tho 1 a fuckin pink gooey man that can multiply and absorb people 1 old asf dark magic bender
The reason they didn’t keep Buu in the tournament is most likely cos the writers looked at Buu’s abilities and thought “shit that’s gonna be too easy.”
Or, maybe because Fat Buu is just weak? Unless he got much stronger, and more powerful, which I doubt, he wouldn't be a valuable and helpful asset to the Universe 7 team.
@@primalvelocity3811he barely trained at all, got skinny and became monstrously powerful, while retaining his page rewriting hacks and adaptability. He's Deadpool mixed with Frieza's insane potential
@@primalvelocity3811 bro boo can heal everybody, is basically impossible to eliminate and can absorb people which isn’t against the rules since they aren’t eliminated so he could just wait it out and once everybody else is eliminated he could just jump off and anybody else on his team would win he’s basically a free win
How easily would Broly be pissed off, you would have to tell him that Frieza killed Paragus then tell Frieza to run towards anyone that is a major problem, towards someone like Kefla or Jiren and watch the madness unfold
correct me if im wrong since i dont read manga, but isnt moro, black frieza, granolah, ultra ego all like, multiple years in the future instead of just 1? ok maybe moro is 1 year, but everything else?
@@slayer-asp-6670 idk about multiple years but it's definitely more than 1 year, it be like 1-3 years, probably 2 years since nothing has indicated a big time skip or anything or otherwise
Alright since y’all wanna come at me a year later Frieza is back for TWENTY FOUR HOURS AND THERE AINT A TIME CHAMBER IN HELL as well as OH YEAH BULMA JUST HAS TO INVENT A STABILIZER FOR FUSION (MIND YOU SHE HAS NEVER SEEEN A FUSION ATP IN THE SERIES BECAUSE BROLY HASNT HAPPENED YET
@@sirsleepers5314movies are canon so broly did happen, n frieza was brought back way before, he trained for 10 years in a dimension that’s time is similar to the time chamber
Legit I think the bigger issue would have been if somebody pushed him hard enough that he went ssj. There wouldn't be a platform for anyone to stand on after that
Fr this mf saying If the tournament of power would've happened at the current time in the Manga but like I could say what about them being stronger than that like 3 arcs later it's stupid af or like saying the world tournament could've been better if they just waited for goku to achieve perfect ultra instinct
No one truly understands how much potential piccolo actually has, when he first fought goku, he just got born and he was wrecking Goku at the time, and if he trained as much as the sayains, he would be an insanely powerful character
Not that i wanna be that guy but he was not just born he was a 3 year old Still the fact he got so far as to impress nail while being HALF a namekian is super impressive
Couldnt they have just made the other universes stronger then?. Instead of having weak replacements getting buffed because of the plot, we could actually see universe 7s maximum strength.
Woah...that...blew my mind. Why didn't they think of that? I know i know Toriyama thought he would've been too OP for the TOP, i just rhymed unintentionally...😂
Didn't thy have less than a few hours? I mean I thought the same thing about Old Kai using the time chamber to unlock Goku's power since the 25 hours would just take a minute or so. Buu would take 4 hours. MINIMUM if it is only just a two month nap, but it could easily go to three or four. making it 4+ so they could be looking at 8 which they did not have time for. In the end though. Buu would have been too powerful.
Buu alone would have been too much. His magic abilities would have turned half the field into candies, and he could heal everyone, and he can tank much more damage than anyone else. So they had to remove him or nerf him.
To be fair outside of the fusion thing and black freezer All of them existed before the tournament beerus and supreme kai just SUCK in terms or searching around the universe
@@danielgonzalez-vm5lj He still suggests Ultimate Piccolo, which is possible to wish for, but still, we had no idea such a thing was possible at the time. Moro was still arrested at this point & very much devoid of power & would need to absorb some planets to get in decent shape & while his hax is useful, Moro being a team player is possibly more of a toss-up than Frieza. Broly, yeah I'll give 'em that, even if he 'technically' didn't exist until the Broly movies, in the timeline he's been her the whole time. I guess that's kinda the problem w/ ToP as it's meant to be a big conclusion of the strongest, but of course, when the series goes in it will introduce new power fighters w/ some that have been around way before the ToP &l leave people scratching their heads on why they were absent. Granted, bad writing & hindsight, but still.
Broly had a similar problem but no, no buy is just weak. The problem is he is too weak even kid buu he lost to vegito super sayin when they first figured out vegito not knowing power and abilities speed so on so fourth not to mention buu can’t control his ki and has no strategy as he can’t even talk buu would run out of energy and your not aloud to charge your energy in the T.o.P buu would run out and lose so no buu just sucks
@@yungtrick7405 Buu trained heavily in preparation for the tournament and even got much stronger. Charging ki was never forbidden. Otherwise literally every combatant would've been disqualified.
"the team was not the best because it didn't include stories from after it aired" Ah yes because my main complaint of Goku vs the red ribbon army is that he never used the spirit bomb
Exactly like his whole reason for it being weaker than it could've been is they should've used a bunch of people and forms from after the tournament lol
@helion4187 still though some of the characters make no sense to be here but he does make a good point somewhere goku was the one to choose all the fighters theres definetly someone beerus would know who was powerful but instead goku chose and we ended up with fucking krillin
@@Hydraniac oh I thought we were talking about if a second tournament happened cause they don’t even know Moro goku and vegeta don’t know what ultra ego and ui even is and same with broly cause in implied that T.O.P happened before broly being shown right before Moro arc starts
@@Hydraniac top was also before black freiza, ultra ego Vegeta, beast Gohan, orange piccolo, tui Goku, moro and before broly was even introduced as well so I don't see your point
@@ParadiseDB7no, he was talking about at the time of the tournament, not a second, thus why its the *dream team* and not “totally not stolen second ToP team of powerness”
Let buu absorb everyone and let him cook with his candy beam showing off his powers but not using them cause he is just too op. Jiren will be the only one forcing him to use some powers so he can eat him too before releasing goku to make the wish and throwing jiren out.
Ngl it would have been pretty sweet to see a full team of broken gods. Ultra Instinct, Ultra Ego, Black Frieza, Gohan Beast, Orange Piccolo and even just Buu on their own would be enough to curb stomp future TOPs including a Jiren that trains up for the next tournament. Moro magic could be overkill, 17 is just a baseline curb stomper for anybody weaker than him, and Gotenks would probably make Zeno wanna have another childhood aged friend lol.
Let me tell you one thing about jiren , he single handedly defeated goku ui, vegeta advanced blue form, golden frieza, 17 and that too without powering up... Whereas goku seriously needed to power up through vegeta and still it was not enough to "defeat" jiren, they just threw him out of the, void. These fighters you have seen fought outside of the tournament of power that's why you think these are powerful but imagine what if jiren didn't let goku turn into mui and ended the tournament of power at the beginning only. He was capable of it. But yea because goku is a main character that's why he needs to win no matter who the foe is.
@@warwickdeynova9572 That's a special case. Unless the angels or Zeno have some sort of ability to check inside Buu, they would probably assume they died. I'm guessing they don't since they assumed Goku died in his spirit bomb.
the tournament is only for 45 minutes they should not use fusion on the very start they should use it when both of them are in darger or gets overpowered
They didn’t know about Moro either or the main 6 warriors transformations, it was just the 10 best warriors in Universe 7, whether they know about their existence or not
@@A_Ali173 not to mention they were ify about letting Frieza I don't think the galactic patrol or anyone on the team would be okay with Moro being on the team
@@wc5502 Even without his Angel Powers Merus still blitzed Goku and Vegeta at the start of The Moro arc. And he still has some understanding of how UI works. He should still be an absolute powerhouse in all honesty.
Actually, if you go back and do the math, Buu would be sleeping JUST LONG ENOUGH, that even the Room of Spirit and Time would've been too late before tournament started. They only had 3 hours. They needed 4 hours for 2 months to pass
You know it's odd that Buu was supposedly hibernating during that time, because in the credits when everyone was celebrating and eating; Buu was there eating as well 😅 I was like "whoa wtf?! Satan said he'd be sleeping for months! "
Not quite sure what this is supposed to mean but my limited knowledge of basketball makes me think the analogy is that they didn't Include Broly but quite literally he wasn't in the anime and the Broly movie didn't exist until after the tournament of power so he couldn't have been.
@@badbeets7621 Zeke was basically a shoe in for the 91 dream team, but cause MJ didn't like him to the point where it was rumoured that he said he wouldn't play if IT was there and the other's really wanted to play with Jordan, the Olympic basketball committee basically didn't select him. Isaiah Thomas had just lead his team to an NBA championship in 1990 just 2 years prior; but because he was a bad sportsman and his team played in a very physical style that some would consider dirty, a lot of the other pros didn't like him. Ik the tournament of power concluded before Broly, but I meant to say was that: if he had been in the canon before the tournament of power selection, then I imagine them not picking him would be because of bad blood i.e. what happened to IT for the 1992 Olympic team
So shocked that the db fusions arm piece haven't been brought up enough, could even make the humans more relevant in a way too. Train with king Kai, learn kaioken and use that arm piece to fuse would be interesting. Also would be interesting in a what if scenario if that thing was canon in db
Well... They'd still be too weak to participate. Kaioken is doing tap damage to fighters like basil, mint, and parsley. Take Yamcha for example; he would've been disqualified from strong winds. I also think fusion dance would be more reliable since it isn't something that can be damaged. Also, since the TOP lasted under 30 minutes, they'd be fused for the entire time.
yeah but whis could have easily scouted the universe for its strongest fighters and he would’ve found broly and moro. i’m sure moro would’ve been released for the top if beerus had told the galactic patrol to do so
Including Moro and Buu would be a wrap, pack it up other universes. This is just too op in terms of abilities, magic, terrain manipulation, and team support (might be missing others)
@@TheHybridSaiyannot really im pretty sure Buu would decimate anyone if he trained..the dude never trained his whole life and still killing Majin Vegeta and super Saiyan 2 Gohan...not to mention going toe to toe with super Saiyan 3....Frieza got bodied on super Saiyan Goku....
There should have been a mini arc going across U7 trying to find fighters. Would have been a great way to canonized characters lik Pikkon, Tapion, Ledgic, ect
@@gregkareem9824 Really wouldn't be easy for Moro to destroy Jiren. I mean, let's not forget that Jiren went toe to toe with MUI Goku before. But yes, Moro does indeed slam Jiren. Hell, if Moro absorbs Jiren, then he would be amazingly a badass, don't ya think?
@@lostinamattison23 he's litteraly including moro and black frieza in this video. who are from the latest arcs. It's a video explaining the most powerful lineup without taking in concistency into account
“This is what the tournament of power could’ve looked like.” Frieza took him 10 YEARS IN ANOTHER DIMENSION for Black! Beast took an emotional trigger, Orange took a wish, UE took Beerus training, Moro wouldn’t do shit to join them, True UI…..well that wouldn’t even be possible here.
Freiza wanted to betray everyone if he had the black form pretty sure he wouldve took the wish for himself causing xeno to destroy all the planets This was theoretically the *perfect* set up
Moro would become terrifyingly strong very quickly. He took in enough energy to surpass blue geets in a very brief fight, imagine him draining the entire arena at once. Hed wipe the whole arena clear
Keyword “was.” Last we saw off him was in the filler against goku post cell saga. He wouldn’t even hold a candle to the z fighters by the TOP. I do wanna make a what if abt him staying relevant
The thing is Moro being on the team wouldn't make any sense he wouldn't cooperate with them even if they offered him something in return and I don't even think he'd care if the universe got erased
Braley is going to be more of a liability if he can’t get his rage under control, because he’s just going to accidentally kill all of the fighters in a couple seconds.
android 17 got stronger than ssb by protecting animals from humans i can’t even imagine what would happen if the androids trained in a time chamber with their infinite stamina for a longass time cell too since he’s basically all 3
Very True but if I’m being Honest I would replace Gotenks with Cell basically just revive him and have him go in the Time Chamber with The Entire Team and with him having the combined DNA of Frieza, Cold, Goku, Vegeta, Nappa, Gohan, Piccolo and the Humans he has the ability to be the strongest on the Team with enough time Frieza Potential, Saiyan Zenkai and Namekian Regeneration combined to make the Ultimate Fighter
@@SaiyanMotion They did, there was a total of like 48 hours before the T.o.P started. So let's say it took them 3 hours to collect the dragon balls and make the wish, another 5 to collect eveyone else excluding the Gotenks since they would only be a buffer kind of charecter in my opinion, not overly strong, not overly weak, but also not tactful and experienced. It would Prabably take like 5 minutes to inform cell and convince him. Then they send him and a few people into the HTTC like Freiza, Picolo, and Gohan. which would make more sense as to why these characters would have their transformations early. And maybe by using the one Freiza used in the manga, Broly, Goku, and Vegeta could train to gain those Ultra forms with Beerus and Whis' help while also giving Broly some useful techniques. Regardless, with cell, they'd have about a year and 3 quarters at max to train him up. But remember it only took Frriza 4 months to achieve golden and be on par with a God gone Super Saiyan, and even though it states Freiza was in a HTTC for 10 years, he could've very well gained the Black form early on but still continued his training anyway just to make sure, so who knows how many transformations Cell could gain with the genes he's got. Goku Vegeta and Broly in the Httc would be diffrent, but it should be enough for those ultra or at least ideas of them to be put to use in the T.o.P.
I might be wrong but Cell power potential might be a lot weaker than Frieza thanks to both Vegeta and Goku combined that weakening his potential as a whole. Even if Cell train with everyone on Time Chamber, his power will be slightly more powerful than Goku and Vegeta, I assume. Hear me out. If Cell has Frieza DNA, who’s confirmed to have growth potential that cam go beyond, then why at the climax of Cell saga when he turned Super Cell, why has he not like… more powerful than god?
@@trongtran8951 Goku and Vegeta don’t take away potential they add to it just because theirs more DNA types added doesn’t take away traits from other DNA types also Cell didn’t train at all and simply got a single Zenkai after his explosion and got an insane boost in power becoming Super Perfect Cell and this is all without ever training at all
@@SaiyanMotion Plus there’s no reason to add goten and trunks/gotenks when they don’t have that much of fighting experiences there was a reason why they vegeta agreed to not let them participate
Video ideas/tier lists: “Dragon ball characters tier list” (canon and non canon) or “Dragon ball technique tier list” (ultra instinct, kaioken, spirit bomb, etc.) Edit: just came up with this, “what if goku somehow became an android”
They thought about Gotenks but decided not to. They realized that as a kid with little experience he’d be a much less valuable asset than someone like Roshi or Krillin, who use high end strategy and skill.
All Buu would have to do is absorb Goku and it’s an absolute fucking wrap😂 imagine a Goku that can heal any damage, split into multiple versions and can regenerate from a single atom😂
@@Dar2Jee idk about that 1) Vegeta’s ego would make him evaporate Buu before he even tried, even tho they’re on the same team (we both know he’d rather be eliminated on the spot then have to resort to anything like fusion or absorption) 2) people like Jiren, Toppo, Kale and Hit are either way too strong or way too fast to allow that to happen so he couldn’t absorb them 3) if he absorbed EVERYONE (if your talking about on JUST the universe 7 team) if he falls out for any reason or accidentally kills, then it’s instant evaporation, cause everyone got eliminated at once
You didn't mention Beast Gohan or Orange Piccolo. You also didn't mention Granolah who's UI level nor did you mention Meerus who should still have alot of power even though he's mortal now. They left those two alive for a reason I believe
granolah had not made his wish at that time, hes talking about people who were alive and strong during the time period of top and granolah is not one of them
Team of 10: -Gamma 1 -Gamma 2 -Beast Gohan -MUI Goku -UE Vegeta -Black Frieza -Controlled Super Saiyan (then later, potentially we get Partially Controlled Super Saiyan Full Power), Broly -Orange Piccolo or maybe a stronger version of it -Android 17 -Gotenks if they are allowed to enter as Gotenks, but if not, present-day Trunks would replace Android 17 and Goten would be the 10th fighter. Though, those two would need a lot of off-screen/panel/manga page time to get the swing of things with Fusion again.
Buu fell asleep cus Toriyama thought for a moment. And realized how unstopable buu would be.
He almost forgot Buu's black Air force energy
If buu was in the tournament the ultimate support when Goku went ui and had no energy, Vegeta after final explosion against toppo and the last episode of a miraculous team up would not have happened since the theories was mentioned buu can split up in small size and heal them so no elimination and also we might have seen the manga here jiren vs master roshi if he didn't eliminate himself and got healed up.. dude buu would have been OP and obviously Hercule would been in the deck directing him orders
@@surajhawk27 Its a missed opportunity to see how toriyama could have wroten the TOP way better. But nope, just get rid of a character altogether instead...what a pain.
So to win here is the dream team :
2 white hair mthrfckrs
1 purple hair btch
1 n-***
1 orange alien
1 fuckin unlimited energy
1 idk where power comes but green hair tho
1 a fuckin pink gooey man that can multiply and absorb people
1 old asf dark magic bender
Yep
Sure... until the wishing part comes in to play... "Buu, what is your wish?"
" BUU WANT CANDY !!!! "
😂😂
That was funny
Goku: "NO BUU! WE MUST WISH THE UNIVERSES BACK!"
@@kevinjeffreys967 *zeno erases all the universes including universe 7*
@@nasrosa4697 Zeno erases all candy in all universes.
The reason they didn’t keep Buu in the tournament is most likely cos the writers looked at Buu’s abilities and thought “shit that’s gonna be too easy.”
Or, maybe because Fat Buu is just weak? Unless he got much stronger, and more powerful, which I doubt, he wouldn't be a valuable and helpful asset to the Universe 7 team.
@@primalvelocity3811 still better than Muten Roshi and co
@@primalvelocity3811he barely trained at all, got skinny and became monstrously powerful, while retaining his page rewriting hacks and adaptability. He's Deadpool mixed with Frieza's insane potential
@@primalvelocity3811 bro boo can heal everybody, is basically impossible to eliminate and can absorb people which isn’t against the rules since they aren’t eliminated so he could just wait it out and once everybody else is eliminated he could just jump off and anybody else on his team would win he’s basically a free win
@@primalvelocity3811 infinite heal, infinite stamina, magic, clones, etc.
Yeah, once Broly goes rage mode, 90% of the participants would just be "Are you strong enough to run away and not get "accidentally" killed"
I love Broly so much hes just such a wildcard
It would of been the same event in the T.O.P manga with kale but a lot worse lol
How easily would Broly be pissed off, you would have to tell him that Frieza killed Paragus then tell Frieza to run towards anyone that is a major problem, towards someone like Kefla or Jiren and watch the madness unfold
"This is what the tournament pf power could have looked like... if it took place a whole year after it actually did"
correct me if im wrong since i dont read manga, but isnt moro, black frieza, granolah, ultra ego all like, multiple years in the future instead of just 1? ok maybe moro is 1 year, but everything else?
@@slayer-asp-6670 yes. Thats why this video is stupid
@@slayer-asp-6670 yes, OP is retarded
@@slayer-asp-6670 idk about multiple years but it's definitely more than 1 year, it be like 1-3 years, probably 2 years since nothing has indicated a big time skip or anything or otherwise
@@alphaorlando3974 galactic prisoner arc was like a year or so after top
Brother said yeah if universe 7 waited 10 years then THATS the team 😭😭
he used a time chamber
Fr this was so dumb
Alright since y’all wanna come at me a year later Frieza is back for TWENTY FOUR HOURS AND THERE AINT A TIME CHAMBER IN HELL as well as OH YEAH BULMA JUST HAS TO INVENT A STABILIZER FOR FUSION (MIND YOU SHE HAS NEVER SEEEN A FUSION ATP IN THE SERIES BECAUSE BROLY HASNT HAPPENED YET
@@sirsleepers5314movies are canon so broly did happen, n frieza was brought back way before, he trained for 10 years in a dimension that’s time is similar to the time chamber
@@BandemicLV the movies don’t matter because he’s talking about THE FIRST TOURNAMENT OF POWER that’s just out of order
Broly would’ve probably gotten them disqualified for accidentally killing someone 💀
Yeah I’d just have him on standby for people like jiren kale and kefla maybe even aniraza
With what kale was doing, yes broly would've been worse... Broly would've bodied kale.
I think that killing only got the person who did it disqualified, not the whole team.
Jiren damn near tried to kill U7
He definitely should've got disqualified
I know he didn't kill them BUT HE TRIED LMAO
Legit I think the bigger issue would have been if somebody pushed him hard enough that he went ssj. There wouldn't be a platform for anyone to stand on after that
Honestly, a trained Perfect Cell would be unstoppable
No. Power creep my dude cell couldn't beat krillin with his amount of power creep
@@Joris-w4p Bro look how 17 went from Android level to ssb Goku level by just training with cell juniors
Granola.... gas...
@@JeremyRogers-j8c Granola sure, but gas has beef with goku and vegeta
They didn’t have those power yet and they had a very strategic team everyone played there rolls perfectly in and elimination tournament
It's called a dream Team for a reason
its called plot armor
@@TheProfessor66 but still, even saying that, literally all you would would need is black freza
@@martz5794 patience, eventually goku and vegeta will reach new heights to defeat black frieza.
Except Tien. He should've been stronger.
“With a little bit of training” *10 years of training*
He trained in a hyperbolic time chamber time space so it wasn't that long
@@ShowtimeLawit was still that long for him. Not to mention happened AFTER t.o.p lol. 😂😂
@@ShowtimeLawfor freiza it was 10 years
@@ShowtimeLaw Moro arc is still like 3 years after the tournamenr of power
Black frieza is gonna make the tournament of power a graveyard 💀
Fr
Fr this mf saying If the tournament of power would've happened at the current time in the Manga but like I could say what about them being stronger than that like 3 arcs later it's stupid af or like saying the world tournament could've been better if they just waited for goku to achieve perfect ultra instinct
Average black people
Where did black frizza come from?
@@phillipgomes5198 "dont face yt commenters we dont watch the videos"💀💀💀💀
No one truly understands how much potential piccolo actually has, when he first fought goku, he just got born and he was wrecking Goku at the time, and if he trained as much as the sayains, he would be an insanely powerful character
They know now. That's why his new forms are on par with SSB
@@LoadingFailedorange piccolo is jiren+
Not that i wanna be that guy but he was not just born he was a 3 year old
Still the fact he got so far as to impress nail while being HALF a namekian is super impressive
Im pretty sure u just listed all of the reasons why they had to make it so buu had to fall asleep
That’s why it’s a DREAM TEAM dumbass
@@dennisalmodovar3764 i didn’t say anything about him not being allowed to add buu to his dream team
Dumbass
FAX ngl lol
Only problem buu would've had would've been Jiren
Couldnt they have just made the other universes stronger then?. Instead of having weak replacements getting buffed because of the plot, we could actually see universe 7s maximum strength.
Theres no God damn reason they couldn't throw Boo into the time chamber until he woke up!
Damn that's actually a smart way to get around that problem, more reasons to be mad they booted Buu
Woah...that...blew my mind. Why didn't they think of that? I know i know Toriyama thought he would've been too OP for the TOP, i just rhymed unintentionally...😂
@@TheMegaGamingWizard didn't Vegeta blow it up?
@@sawhunter117 twice
Didn't thy have less than a few hours? I mean I thought the same thing about Old Kai using the time chamber to unlock Goku's power since the 25 hours would just take a minute or so. Buu would take 4 hours. MINIMUM if it is only just a two month nap, but it could easily go to three or four. making it 4+ so they could be looking at 8 which they did not have time for.
In the end though. Buu would have been too powerful.
Who knew a roster of characters w/ forms that came after the ToP would be so much stronger than what we got?
I know right, it's inconceivable!!!!
And then they're flabbergasted after seeing the other universes not be lazy and actually train.
Buu alone would have been too much. His magic abilities would have turned half the field into candies, and he could heal everyone, and he can tank much more damage than anyone else.
So they had to remove him or nerf him.
To be fair outside of the fusion thing and black freezer
All of them existed before the tournament beerus and supreme kai just SUCK in terms or searching around the universe
@@danielgonzalez-vm5lj
He still suggests Ultimate Piccolo, which is possible to wish for, but still, we had no idea such a thing was possible at the time. Moro was still arrested at this point & very much devoid of power & would need to absorb some planets to get in decent shape & while his hax is useful, Moro being a team player is possibly more of a toss-up than Frieza. Broly, yeah I'll give 'em that, even if he 'technically' didn't exist until the Broly movies, in the timeline he's been her the whole time.
I guess that's kinda the problem w/ ToP as it's meant to be a big conclusion of the strongest, but of course, when the series goes in it will introduce new power fighters w/ some that have been around way before the ToP &l leave people scratching their heads on why they were absent. Granted, bad writing & hindsight, but still.
Buu what do you wish for?
BUU WANT CHOCOLATE!!!
“Gets erased”
Morrow? What if he turns evil and decides to TRY and kill?
Zeno: *i got this.*
It's moro
Moro would turn to dust the moment he tried. Grand priest and Zeno we're watching they'd step in.
Buu was out for the single reason alone that he was legitimately OP 😂
Broly had a similar problem but no, no buy is just weak. The problem is he is too weak even kid buu he lost to vegito super sayin when they first figured out vegito not knowing power and abilities speed so on so fourth not to mention buu can’t control his ki and has no strategy as he can’t even talk buu would run out of energy and your not aloud to charge your energy in the T.o.P buu would run out and lose so no buu just sucks
@@yungtrick7405 he would turn everyone Into candy and insta heal the team
@@yungtrick7405 you know buu has infinite energy
@@yungtrick7405 if they weren't able to charge their energy how were they transforming and using ki based attacks
@@yungtrick7405 Buu trained heavily in preparation for the tournament and even got much stronger. Charging ki was never forbidden. Otherwise literally every combatant would've been disqualified.
"the team was not the best because it didn't include stories from after it aired"
Ah yes because my main complaint of Goku vs the red ribbon army is that he never used the spirit bomb
Exactly like his whole reason for it being weaker than it could've been is they should've used a bunch of people and forms from after the tournament lol
This, Exactly
@helion4187 still though some of the characters make no sense to be here but he does make a good point somewhere goku was the one to choose all the fighters theres definetly someone beerus would know who was powerful but instead goku chose and we ended up with fucking krillin
Shoulda been
1. Goku
2. Vegeta
3. 17
4. Frieza
5. Golden SSB Cell (after hyperbolic TC)
6. Buu (throw in time chamber til wakes up)
7. Broly
8. Janemba
9. Gohan
10. Pikkon
@Freehander janemba isnt canon though
Bringing 2 kids into a tournament where the universe can get destroyed doesn't seem like a good idea
Granolah crying in the corner since a child took his place on the universe 7 team
He can take Moro’s spot,he’s too evil
Yeah it hurts, I like granolah(hilarious name aside)
Have you forgot About his wish? his lifespan had been reduced to 3 years
@@mashhoodtahir9588 but the thing is I don't care about his life span anyway how can you use those three years when everything is destroyed
At the time of the ToP Granolah was weaker than 1st form Frieza on Namek.
Granola crying with oatmeal💀
top was before granolah wished to be the strongest, hes practically useless without the wish
@@Hydraniac oh I thought we were talking about if a second tournament happened cause they don’t even know Moro goku and vegeta don’t know what ultra ego and ui even is and same with broly cause in implied that T.O.P happened before broly being shown right before Moro arc starts
@@Hydraniac also super hero wouldn’t have happened yet so it would just be the same team but with buu
@@Hydraniac top was also before black freiza, ultra ego Vegeta, beast Gohan, orange piccolo, tui Goku, moro and before broly was even introduced as well so I don't see your point
@@Hydraniac bro ur logic is from Ohio or what
Man's forgot that half these characters and power ups came after or during the tournament of power
That’s why it’s called dream team
My guy that was literally the entire point of his video 🤦♂️
@@ParadiseDB7no, he was talking about at the time of the tournament, not a second, thus why its the *dream team* and not “totally not stolen second ToP team of powerness”
@@Mikey04251 buddy. That was the point of the video
@@Mikey04251that was the point
Broly will attack every even his own teammate if he get mad enough
The real reason Buu fell asleep is cuz he would've just absorbed everyone and kept changing forms
Yeah buu is just so overly broken and just such a masterpiece that he breaks the plot
If Buu was in the ToP and with around 4 more brain cells, he would’ve wiped almost everyone
@@someguyyoufoundonyoutube8744 imagine if they wished for buu to be smarter with regular dragon balls
@@SrJrXVIII they could’ve just let buu temp absorb someone like maybe picolo
Let buu absorb everyone and let him cook with his candy beam showing off his powers but not using them cause he is just too op. Jiren will be the only one forcing him to use some powers so he can eat him too before releasing goku to make the wish and throwing jiren out.
Ngl it would have been pretty sweet to see a full team of broken gods.
Ultra Instinct, Ultra Ego, Black Frieza, Gohan Beast, Orange Piccolo and even just Buu on their own would be enough to curb stomp future TOPs including a Jiren that trains up for the next tournament. Moro magic could be overkill, 17 is just a baseline curb stomper for anybody weaker than him, and Gotenks would probably make Zeno wanna have another childhood aged friend lol.
gotenks would be rlly nice to see on the team if their fusion lasted the whole tournament.
Broly: MWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
This comment, so perfect, like exactly wat I needed to see..
Buu stronger than Jiren? 😂
Let me tell you one thing about jiren , he single handedly defeated goku ui, vegeta advanced blue form, golden frieza, 17 and that too without powering up... Whereas goku seriously needed to power up through vegeta and still it was not enough to "defeat" jiren, they just threw him out of the, void. These fighters you have seen fought outside of the tournament of power that's why you think these are powerful but imagine what if jiren didn't let goku turn into mui and ended the tournament of power at the beginning only. He was capable of it. But yea because goku is a main character that's why he needs to win no matter who the foe is.
Buu: absorbs everyone from other universes and hops over the side😂
I think it could be argued that absorbing people could be considered "killing" so they would probably declare it against the rules
@@VotingHarmony Not really, they are just kept inside him. You see this when Goku and Vegeta free everyone.
@@warwickdeynova9572 That's a special case. Unless the angels or Zeno have some sort of ability to check inside Buu, they would probably assume they died. I'm guessing they don't since they assumed Goku died in his spirit bomb.
@@VotingHarmony It can be easily proven.
He can just spit them out after he eliminates them with him.
@@warwickdeynova9572 Sure
Buu being able to heal people could make fights more interesting, because universe 7 could have went at opponents with full strength constantly.
The thing about buu is either they'll forget about his broken abilities or won't know how to write buu
Fat Buu was able to go blow-for-blow with SSJ3 Goku. With training, he could easily be as powerful as SS God , and maybe SS Blue.
What would’ve been interesting was if they asked Shenron to extend Gotenks’ fusion for a whole day so they wouldn’t have to worry about him defusing
the tournament is only for 45 minutes they should not use fusion on the very start they should use it when both of them are in darger or gets overpowered
or use potara
But that would count as two characters@@arnelanat3578
@@kjdakid23potara goten and trunks fusion would go hard
@@kjdakid23Trunken
Honestly imagine if a character was severely wounded and told buu he could absorb them to avoid being knocked out.
That's like 20 fighters being token out at once!
Buu falling asleep was the best case for Toriyama's genius, because he was TOO POWERFUL & it's completely in-character due to his unpredictability.
they didn’t even know about broly’s existence during the T.o.P
They didn’t know about Moro either or the main 6 warriors transformations, it was just the 10 best warriors in Universe 7, whether they know about their existence or not
that one fish oracle or something should've known
@@A_Ali173 not to mention they were ify about letting Frieza I don't think the galactic patrol or anyone on the team would be okay with Moro being on the team
@@Big_daddy_short they not stopping beerus at all for bringing Moro on the team tbh
@@MegaBosskill Beerus didn't make the team he let Goku pick people but yeah if Beerus really wanted Moro than obviously no one is stopping him
A trained up mortal version of Merus would be cool to see.
he wouldnt have ui so would be regular side character
@@wc5502
Even without his Angel Powers Merus still blitzed Goku and Vegeta at the start of The Moro arc. And he still has some understanding of how UI works. He should still be an absolute powerhouse in all honesty.
@@panpan1287 angels have constant ultra instinct its not a form for them so he was using ultra instinct
Angels and Gods are forbidden from participating in the tournament though
@@ParadiseDB7 he is a mortal now dum dum
I just love that in DbZ. Buu took a Nap and slept for like 5 seconds to get completely recharged
Buu is the only character who nvr got a true boost in power, yet stays extremely relevant. Buddy is so op
Dont forget, Buu could've just been moved into the room of spirit and time
Actually, if you go back and do the math, Buu would be sleeping JUST LONG ENOUGH, that even the Room of Spirit and Time would've been too late before tournament started. They only had 3 hours. They needed 4 hours for 2 months to pass
@@supersaiyandrgnslayr shi u right
@@supersaiyandrgnslayr maybe they can create another room of spirit and time, inside the room of spirit and time?
You know it's odd that Buu was supposedly hibernating during that time, because in the credits when everyone was celebrating and eating; Buu was there eating as well 😅
I was like "whoa wtf?! Satan said he'd be sleeping for months! "
@@taecampus Whis' staff
Granola and gas at the corner 😂😂😂😂😂
Their skeletons maybe
@@IPlayDB yeah
@@head4you1Granolah will probably be dead by the next Tournament of power because he only had 3 years to live and by then he will be dead
@@JaimeCruz-b7pthat why he said sKeLeToN
@@head4you1well Moro is a skeleton too
Buu being available until sleep and could be awaken in time chamber if Vegeta didn't destroy it : bruh I'ma sleep on you
Or a DragonBall wish lol
I think buu has ptsd from the time chamber tho 😂
All the universe is cooked if the team was this 💀
I imagine Goku, Vegeta and Frieza gave Broly the "Isaiah Thomas Treatment" which Jordan, Magic and Bird did to Zeke back in 91
Not quite sure what this is supposed to mean but my limited knowledge of basketball makes me think the analogy is that they didn't Include Broly but quite literally he wasn't in the anime and the Broly movie didn't exist until after the tournament of power so he couldn't have been.
@@badbeets7621 Zeke was basically a shoe in for the 91 dream team, but cause MJ didn't like him to the point where it was rumoured that he said he wouldn't play if IT was there and the other's really wanted to play with Jordan, the Olympic basketball committee basically didn't select him.
Isaiah Thomas had just lead his team to an NBA championship in 1990 just 2 years prior; but because he was a bad sportsman and his team played in a very physical style that some would consider dirty, a lot of the other pros didn't like him.
Ik the tournament of power concluded before Broly, but I meant to say was that: if he had been in the canon before the tournament of power selection, then I imagine them not picking him would be because of bad blood i.e. what happened to IT for the 1992 Olympic team
Every universe would've just been fodder to 7 istg-
So shocked that the db fusions arm piece haven't been brought up enough, could even make the humans more relevant in a way too. Train with king Kai, learn kaioken and use that arm piece to fuse would be interesting. Also would be interesting in a what if scenario if that thing was canon in db
Well... They'd still be too weak to participate. Kaioken is doing tap damage to fighters like basil, mint, and parsley. Take Yamcha for example; he would've been disqualified from strong winds. I also think fusion dance would be more reliable since it isn't something that can be damaged. Also, since the TOP lasted under 30 minutes, they'd be fused for the entire time.
Not having cell is wild.
The purpose was not to get the stongest, but to make a team work with the abilities of each guy.
You remember timelines? Most the people you said weren’t even know til way later after the tournament of power
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yeah but whis could have easily scouted the universe for its strongest fighters and he would’ve found broly and moro. i’m sure moro would’ve been released for the top if beerus had told the galactic patrol to do so
Including Moro and Buu would be a wrap, pack it up other universes. This is just too op in terms of abilities, magic, terrain manipulation, and team support (might be missing others)
i will die on the hill of "Cell would've been the most interesting to see in the TOP"
Buu just absorbs everyone and jumps off the stage.
That s great idea
We don’t need buu for that, instant transmission is enough.
Buu in the tournament would’ve been OP, writers knew what they were doing. Lol
Not only that, but he's so annoying.
he could probably solo a universe or two
We need another Tournament of a power
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Fun fact: For a few seconds, while Frieza was fighting the Beerus clone, he turned black while transforming into golden.
I thinks more accurate title is “what if ToP happened in the current state of the manga”
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Good gravy, could you imagine Buu absorbing Jiren? 👀
If Jiren can break hit's Time Cage I can see him somehow being immune to absorption.
If Buu and freeza black was there they would just bully everyone
I really want to see Frieza's reaction to seeing Buu
@@TheHybridSaiyan he would be proud non the less 😂
@@thunderducks3907 yeah he would be like, "WOW I AM STRONGER THAN THE GUY I FEARED!"
@@TheHybridSaiyannot really im pretty sure Buu would decimate anyone if he trained..the dude never trained his whole life and still killing Majin Vegeta and super Saiyan 2 Gohan...not to mention going toe to toe with super Saiyan 3....Frieza got bodied on super Saiyan Goku....
@@hikigayahachiman3463 That’s if he trains though
Jiren is Like Let's pretend i haven't heard this😅😂😂
There should have been a mini arc going across U7 trying to find fighters. Would have been a great way to canonized characters lik Pikkon, Tapion, Ledgic, ect
they don't care about canonizing them, Pikkon isn't even alive.
@@selfishbeats Neither was Frieza.
Buu would’ve been busted in the TOP… which is of course why we had to have him fall asleep, of course. Plus, bring back 18 damn it-
And 17 dude lasted longer than everyone both 17 and 18 are underrated
I'm shocked they didn't take boo to the chamber to wait for him to wake up
IIRC, it’s stated that he can sleep for months at a time and nothing can wake him once he goes to sleep.
If i remember corectly vegeta destroyed chamber before top?
I'd bring Granolah instead of Gotenks if you ask me
Imagine buu absorbing all of these guys powers
Omg💀💀💀
@@itsasonicfanyt8075 he would be black and green he would get speed from mui strength from ue vegeta iq from gohan skill from broly
@@iiisparklepastel8816bro that's busted he might I MEAN JUST MIGHT touch whis
@@itsasonicfanyt8075 he would hit whis with ease
@@THEHOLYGAMERR whis is still way way beyond goku and vegeta even if they fused and became ultra gogeta whis would still speed blitz 1 tap them
Everyone sleeps on Pikkon. Still wish we could have seen him again
Isn't he filler?
lol he wouldn't have made the cut regardless. and he's also dead and had to train for a long ass time as a dead guy to get that strong
Broly can’t control his anger, he’d just kill his own team or the other fighters… Which disqualifies him.
That maybe true, HOWEVER Goku is helping him train to both control his anger and using that anger to turn it to power.
@@courage1363true and broly would honestly solo at least 2 universes lol
@@ReliableExcavationDemolitian I'd estimate more.
Then we dont get Master Roshi's shining moment where I had tears in my eyes.
Nahhhh its perfect the way it is.
Can't forget about granola and uub
Uub is literally a baby during ToP
gas granolah you mean?
@@gregkareem9824 no I said uub and granola
@@Ant_elet uub is fucking shit gas is better or even android 18 would be better 17 without 18 would be an incomplete team
Finally frieza can finally say the en word
Imagine buu absorbs all the universe fighters and just jumps off the arena 😂
he doesn't have to since he can just spit them out or have someone with barrier gets absorb on purpose and get the others insdie buu out of him
Champa bribes Buu with Candy to eliminate universe 7
@@MothDax bribing someone is also cheating
me wating for him to say grenolah:🧿👄🧿
Bruh jiren would literally piss himself if he ever fought this team 💀💀
I think some part of him would actually be happy since no one else was on his level
I wanna see Moro against Jiren very badly
@@spazzyghidosafi4168 moro stomps jiren ez
@@gregkareem9824 Really wouldn't be easy for Moro to destroy Jiren. I mean, let's not forget that Jiren went toe to toe with MUI Goku before.
But yes, Moro does indeed slam Jiren. Hell, if Moro absorbs Jiren, then he would be amazingly a badass, don't ya think?
@@spazzyghidosafi4168 i rather him or buu absorb zeno and the grand priest
Broly has so much ki that him and moro would be unstopable!
Problem, is if Moro is last man standing, everything would get erased due to a selfish wish
Granola: what about me
Edit: 1st wish piccolo will have power awakening
And 2nd wish granola to be the strongest
3rd morro youth
Granola wasn’t strong at this point he didn’t make the wodh
@@lostinamattison23 he's litteraly including moro and black frieza in this video. who are from the latest arcs.
It's a video explaining the most powerful lineup without taking in concistency into account
Toyotaro already said that pre wish granolah strength is the same as the Ginyu force. So he would get destroyed easily
@@嶋野の狂犬-q8j fr?
@@hoohoo431 Piccolo literally wished to be strong too and that was a lot later then Granola? Literally makes no sense why he doesn't bring Granola.
nobody talk about that one dude from og db with the devilmite beam
“This is what the tournament of power could’ve looked like.” Frieza took him 10 YEARS IN ANOTHER DIMENSION for Black! Beast took an emotional trigger, Orange took a wish, UE took Beerus training, Moro wouldn’t do shit to join them, True UI…..well that wouldn’t even be possible here.
And you're having a meltdown why 🤦♂️
Freiza wanted to betray everyone if he had the black form pretty sure he wouldve took the wish for himself causing xeno to destroy all the planets
This was theoretically the *perfect* set up
Honestly can’t wait for the second TOP, stuff is gonna be fire
It won’t happen……….
Woulda been so cool to see a Buu as a Ally from start to finish in a Arc
Moro would become terrifyingly strong very quickly. He took in enough energy to surpass blue geets in a very brief fight, imagine him draining the entire arena at once. Hed wipe the whole arena clear
Everybody keeps forgetting about Pikkon. He was a beast! I remember him beating Frieza and Cell by himself and almost beat Goku
Keyword “was.” Last we saw off him was in the filler against goku post cell saga. He wouldn’t even hold a candle to the z fighters by the TOP. I do wanna make a what if abt him staying relevant
He’s weaker than the androids in super atp. He wouldn’t be relevant
@@ssjsal2159 you're wrong about that! So you're saying Master roshi and krillin were better picks than Pikkon? 🤣🤣🤣 And Piccolo I mean I can go on.
@@ssjsal2159 you must have missed the part where I said he beat Frieza and Cell and almost beat Goku.
@@BosoxPatsfan603 piccolo would slap him 😂 I’ll give you the humans tho
The thing is Moro being on the team wouldn't make any sense he wouldn't cooperate with them even if they offered him something in return and I don't even think he'd care if the universe got erased
They would probably set him free as payback
@@aidandavis5118 only for him too betray them and wipe them out right after the tournament
Braley is going to be more of a liability if he can’t get his rage under control, because he’s just going to accidentally kill all of the fighters in a couple seconds.
Imagine if they somehow brought back Cell.
Bro had Saiyan DNA and Freeza DNA. Just train him up, teach him God Ki and he soloes.
Imagine Android 17 and 18 get a new software update 💀
They are no longer androids...that is why 18 got impregnated by Krillin
@@elizardelaisla865 they were never fully robots they were humans at one point but they’re still androids
android 17 got stronger than ssb by protecting animals from humans i can’t even imagine what would happen if the androids trained in a time chamber with their infinite stamina for a longass time cell too since he’s basically all 3
Very True but if I’m being Honest I would replace Gotenks with Cell basically just revive him and have him go in the Time Chamber with The Entire Team and with him having the combined DNA of Frieza, Cold, Goku, Vegeta, Nappa, Gohan, Piccolo and the Humans he has the ability to be the strongest on the Team with enough time Frieza Potential, Saiyan Zenkai and Namekian Regeneration combined to make the Ultimate Fighter
I don’t think they have that kind of time
@@SaiyanMotion They did, there was a total of like 48 hours before the T.o.P started. So let's say it took them 3 hours to collect the dragon balls and make the wish, another 5 to collect eveyone else excluding the Gotenks since they would only be a buffer kind of charecter in my opinion, not overly strong, not overly weak, but also not tactful and experienced.
It would Prabably take like 5 minutes to inform cell and convince him. Then they send him and a few people into the HTTC like Freiza, Picolo, and Gohan. which would make more sense as to why these characters would have their transformations early. And maybe by using the one Freiza used in the manga, Broly, Goku, and Vegeta could train to gain those Ultra forms with Beerus and Whis' help while also giving Broly some useful techniques.
Regardless, with cell, they'd have about a year and 3 quarters at max to train him up. But remember it only took Frriza 4 months to achieve golden and be on par with a God gone Super Saiyan, and even though it states Freiza was in a HTTC for 10 years, he could've very well gained the Black form early on but still continued his training anyway just to make sure, so who knows how many transformations Cell could gain with the genes he's got.
Goku Vegeta and Broly in the Httc would be diffrent, but it should be enough for those ultra or at least ideas of them to be put to use in the T.o.P.
I might be wrong but Cell power potential might be a lot weaker than Frieza thanks to both Vegeta and Goku combined that weakening his potential as a whole. Even if Cell train with everyone on Time Chamber, his power will be slightly more powerful than Goku and Vegeta, I assume.
Hear me out.
If Cell has Frieza DNA, who’s confirmed to have growth potential that cam go beyond, then why at the climax of Cell saga when he turned Super Cell, why has he not like… more powerful than god?
@@trongtran8951 Goku and Vegeta don’t take away potential they add to it just because theirs more DNA types added doesn’t take away traits from other DNA types also Cell didn’t train at all and simply got a single Zenkai after his explosion and got an insane boost in power becoming Super Perfect Cell and this is all without ever training at all
@@SaiyanMotion Plus there’s no reason to add goten and trunks/gotenks when they don’t have that much of fighting experiences there was a reason why they vegeta agreed to not let them participate
Ginyu would've been great to have. Imagine they get to the fight with jiren and when Goku starts to lose you just hear "CHANGE NOW!"
Video ideas/tier lists: “Dragon ball characters tier list” (canon and non canon) or “Dragon ball technique tier list” (ultra instinct, kaioken, spirit bomb, etc.)
Edit: just came up with this, “what if goku somehow became an android”
They thought about Gotenks but decided not to. They realized that as a kid with little experience he’d be a much less valuable asset than someone like Roshi or Krillin, who use high end strategy and skill.
That team is absolutely nuts
This is the same energy as "How come Piccolo never went Orange mode at the Tenkaichi Budokai?" ;p
BROLY! BROLY!! BROLY!!! BROOOOOOOOOLYYYY!!!!!
All Buu would have to do is absorb Goku and it’s an absolute fucking wrap😂 imagine a Goku that can heal any damage, split into multiple versions and can regenerate from a single atom😂
take the extra step ... absorb everyone at full power and spit them out after buu curvestomped the tournament
@@Dar2Jee idk about that
1) Vegeta’s ego would make him evaporate Buu before he even tried, even tho they’re on the same team (we both know he’d rather be eliminated on the spot then have to resort to anything like fusion or absorption)
2) people like Jiren, Toppo, Kale and Hit are either way too strong or way too fast to allow that to happen so he couldn’t absorb them
3) if he absorbed EVERYONE (if your talking about on JUST the universe 7 team) if he falls out for any reason or accidentally kills, then it’s instant evaporation, cause everyone got eliminated at once
@@flaminggaming143 For 2 to work, they would have to know about their plan beforehand.
You didn't mention Beast Gohan or Orange Piccolo. You also didn't mention Granolah who's UI level nor did you mention Meerus who should still have alot of power even though he's mortal now. They left those two alive for a reason I believe
granolah had not made his wish at that time, hes talking about people who were alive and strong during the time period of top and granolah is not one of them
Meerus is an angel. He can’t compete
Solid list, Buu truly would have been OP if he hadn’t fallen asleep.
Finally somebody mentioned ex fusions!!!
Gotenks vs universe 2 would be hilarious and you cant convince me otherwise
Team of 10:
-Gamma 1
-Gamma 2
-Beast Gohan
-MUI Goku
-UE Vegeta
-Black Frieza
-Controlled Super Saiyan (then later, potentially we get Partially Controlled Super Saiyan Full Power), Broly
-Orange Piccolo or maybe a stronger version of it
-Android 17
-Gotenks if they are allowed to enter as Gotenks, but if not, present-day Trunks would replace Android 17 and Goten would be the 10th fighter. Though, those two would need a lot of off-screen/panel/manga page time to get the swing of things with Fusion again.
“train him up a little more”
is 10 years a little to you💀
It's all fun and games until universe 7 gets erased for having more competitors then the given amount when Gotenks defuses
bro if frieza got black frieza then he would be so strong he wouldn’t enter and follow gokus orders
Broly would’ve been so much fun to see in the tournament. Probably would’ve eliminated half the arena in the first couple minutes.
Jiren absorbed by buu would've been a sight to see