Thanks to the gang and Molly for this fun discussion about totally reasonable people with not at all inconsistent ideologies! I love the dry, sardonic tone of Molly's reporting, as she said often these scenarios write themselves.
Fantastic episode!! I also caught both Molly and Bennet's episodes on Griftonomics and loved them. As someone with no software engineer or finance background listening to you guys is super helpful and important to me. My local paper just ran a front page pro-blockchain piece interviewing a college finance professor who talked about how great putting mortgage documents and what not on the blockchain is going to be and how blockchain is cutting edge technology and the future. It doesn't matter how much of a dumpster fire crypto is right now, its still being pushed and promoted and all the problems hand waved away. What you guys are doing is so very important. Seriously.
I love these interviews so much. Im one of those listeners who didnt need convincing to be critical of crypto. :D But I still enjoy the conversations and i keep learning new stuff from you guys. Thank you so much.
I actually documented some of the specific candidates that Jesse supports: bennettftomlin.com/2022/03/27/crypto-money-advances-anti-democracy-candidates/
@@CryptoCriticPod ugh. JD Vance (not surprising), and Josh Freaking Mandel…one of the most absurdly cartoon villain candidates ever to run for office. Sadly, those were the top two candidates in Ohio for the Rs.
I always enjoy these episodes about the overall discussion regarding the meta of 'crypto' and 'web3' as well as enjoying the extra pizazz of reactions from everyone. When do we get a Cascoin coin collectables stream? (editing was fun for this episode)
Molly White once again proving that being on top of being intelligent, well spoken, beautiful and charming, being a crypto sceptic is also majorly attractive.
I love how a common answer to crypto criticism is “do your research” and when challenged you get back the same tired copy pasted answers that don’t really help the case for adoption.
There's many of them, but the episode entitled Bitcoin here might be a good place to start to understand our general position: ua-cam.com/video/Ffbl6WSsSOk/v-deo.html
Comment while I'm watching is that I HATED that "have fun staying poor" and in club speak "we're all gonna make it" comments this crypto cycle. It really should have been my opening eye that the space was WAY overheated. No criticism accepted, just call the guy criticising the project an idiot and call in your "wagmi club bros" to pile in with talking points from the guy taking your money for a useless token or nft set. I have always enjoyed listening to both sides of something... I want to know when massive investors created this so I wont buy it. I want to imagine the possible use case and say no thats not for me and why would you want the world to be like that.... Look at NYC taxi tags, those could be a real world NFT, you must own it to compete... and uber killed it because it was terrible and crushed competition.
Huh? That sounds like something I would not want to listen to... Cutting out speech? Maybe if it was a "quick clip" but not for a show. Filler words let you build up a personality.
Nope, we have said exactly that, but we have also pointed out that censorship resistance is a double edged sword with counterbalancing costs for its benefit
Overall, good talk, a lot of those who talk a whole lot about the ideals that they supposedly hold whilst selling people a bridge aren’t at all truly sincere in their beliefs - or as a classic saying goes "Deeds, not words". However, concerning that talking point of "free speech being a right wing talking point", was Molly White implying that free speech is a right wing idea? I suppose to a certain authoritarian leaning type of leftist, who might think that anti-authoritarian leftist who dare to uphold the ideals of free speech even for people whom they abhor including right-wingers aren’t "true/good leftist", free speech would indeed seem "right wing", but then that would just be his own peculiarly distorted and myopic view of what free speech really is. That is not to mention that by that same funny standard, all the venerable advocates of free speech across the ages and political persuasions whether republican, liberal or socialist would then also all be "right wing".
@@CryptoCriticPod then they’re not really for free speech, and it would be prudent to clearly call it out as such rather than speaking as she did, which might come off as implying that the ideal that they falsely claim to be supporting is "right wing".
Have you got the timestamp for what you're referring to? Skimming through the transcript I'm having trouble finding the quote, but UA-cam-generated transcripts can be funky.
@@CryptoCriticPod *sigh* free speech and compelled speech i.e. you must refer to me by certain pro nouns in the work place - are not the same thing and you know that...If I requested everyone at work refer to me as "His holiness" or "Chief Dawg" you should rightfully be able to say - "no way, not doing it". Look...of the three supposed females on this pod cast, I'm going to user the pattern recognition skills all humans are born with to state that Molly is most likely biologically female but you could convince me that Bennet and Cas are slowly transitioning.
There are libertarians and people who pretend to be libertarians, I am neither but I would show the true libertarians some respect by acknowledging there are wolves pretending to be sheep in the flock... Otherwise, great discussion.
and not to mention the fact that many people of other ideologies, including liberals, socialists (e.g. people like Orwell), and neo-Republicans also embrace similar, albeit not identical, ideals, especially regarding free speech and liberty in general, yet people like Molly White who are so single-mindedly against the alt-right, which is all well and good, somehow seemingly have this huge jump to fallaciously imply that upholding the ideals of liberty or free speech suggests links to the right or the alt-right just because crypto-authoritarians on the right and closeted-alt-right types pay lip-service to liberty.
No, we explicitly talked about how these claimed libertarians were not actually caring about free speech, and were instead instituting codes of acceptable speech
I remember following the skeptic community between ~2002 and ~2010. I'm skeptical/disbelieving of religion because I think it's counter-factual not because I view it as immoral or care how holy the believers are. Eventually I realized it's opposite for some people in that community and some "skeptics" sought to find holes in something they already subjectively disliked for their own very personal reasons. I'm skeptical of crypto for what I hope are practical reasons (lack of practical uses outside of criminal activity, slow and expensive transactions, increasingly high energy use by design, etc.). The smug moralizing in this video is tiresome just like it eventually became with the skeptic community.
very shallow understanding of crypto among this panel. also no knowledge of how free markets have worked throughout history. making broad generalizations based on seemingly random "comments" from whoever, wherever. no true research has been done here. drivel.
I agree with the pronoun squashing. There is no value in an employee who cries when others don't join in their delusions. Life and work is about them (and them is plural!).
Of course it's important to consider co-workers but to be compelled to refer to somebody in a certain way is a much bigger deal. Would you like to be compelled to say something you don't believe? It should be done out of respect not compulsion
Disappointing ep. I think its fair to bring up the libertarian ethos that underpins the creation of the crypto industry, and question those within the crypto industry about it. But I don't care to listen to another crypto critic's liberal political critique of crypto industry that you also share and not adding enough new angles or news. Example of the highs and lows of the episode... the discussion re: wikipedia, I didn't know about the governance board discussion re: accepting crypto and how that all went down (interesting!) but then it tailed off into 'crypto bros don't really believe in democracy.'
Because it was an explicit example of crypto bros reacting poorly to self governance! Jesse Powell literally said “back to dictatorship” in his thread!
Like the podcast, didn't like the dig at the Mens Rights movement. Unless you think men shouldnt have equal rights where their children are concerned? Which they don't at the moment. I always find it amazing that feminists are happy having an extreme womens rights movement but ANY attempt by men to get equal rights in divorce courts are derided as hate speech.
gloating for sure! she is so happy. do you kids realize that without FDIC insurance, no bank in the USA can survive a run like Celcius is facing? what is incells? you guys have to go see the world outside America. your little conversation on web3 reminds me of the boomers talking about the internet in 2001. won't age well... weird blurb on VC. unlike what she says, Venture Capital is in fact the best asset class for society. VCs fund innovation, entreprenuers, the young. it's much better for society than stock investing (fattening CEOs) and bonds investing (helping government run disgusting levels of debt). real estate is good, too. it gives people a stake in society. btw kids, if you make enough money to live from this work, then you are part of web 3 (web 1 = platform creates content, platform makes money. web 2 = user creates content, platform makes money. web 3 = user creates content, user makes money). yes scammers suck, and they are dumb. for every $1 they steal, crypto market cap loses $10 at least. glad you bring up decentralization! core to the crypto dream. curious is you have ever used Defi? if you haven't, stop talking about it. could not understand your point about wikipedia and crypto. what happened?
Funny that cryptobros compare crypto to the internet, while at the same time promising to supplant "web 1". Is the internet not good and if not why call crypto the next internet? I think an incel is a broke dude spending his life predicting where the squiggly line goes next.
Starting with: banks are required to have HQLA for all assets; and then the oft discussed “reserve ratio” discusses what they need in excess of that. Yes, I’ve used DeFi, plus as I mentioned I have problems in >$1bn protocols.
Molly and guys, keep up your epic streak of quality, and keep on forcing people to see all these emperor's with no clothes!
Thank you and we will!
Thanks to the gang and Molly for this fun discussion about totally reasonable people with not at all inconsistent ideologies! I love the dry, sardonic tone of Molly's reporting, as she said often these scenarios write themselves.
Fantastic episode!! I also caught both Molly and Bennet's episodes on Griftonomics and loved them. As someone with no software engineer or finance background listening to you guys is super helpful and important to me.
My local paper just ran a front page pro-blockchain piece interviewing a college finance professor who talked about how great putting mortgage documents and what not on the blockchain is going to be and how blockchain is cutting edge technology and the future. It doesn't matter how much of a dumpster fire crypto is right now, its still being pushed and promoted and all the problems hand waved away. What you guys are doing is so very important. Seriously.
"Venture capitalists are not good for society regardless of what they're investing in" is definitely a take.
I love these interviews so much. Im one of those listeners who didnt need convincing to be critical of crypto. :D But I still enjoy the conversations and i keep learning new stuff from you guys. Thank you so much.
Yes! I love Molly White. :)
She is wonderful!
@@CryptoCriticPod I've been following Molly White on twitter for some time and she sure spits fax!
My favorite part of the Krakenfesto was where they said they will be supporting ‘single issue candidates’ no matter what their views on rights, etc.
I actually documented some of the specific candidates that Jesse supports: bennettftomlin.com/2022/03/27/crypto-money-advances-anti-democracy-candidates/
@@CryptoCriticPod ugh. JD Vance (not surprising), and Josh Freaking Mandel…one of the most absurdly cartoon villain candidates ever to run for office. Sadly, those were the top two candidates in Ohio for the Rs.
@@CryptoCriticPod thanks for taking the time to do that!! I will circulate it.
I always enjoy these episodes about the overall discussion regarding the meta of 'crypto' and 'web3' as well as enjoying the extra pizazz of reactions from everyone. When do we get a Cascoin coin collectables stream? (editing was fun for this episode)
Also listening to Crypto Critics Corner has moved me towards becoming more financially literate in general.
Glad to hear it!
Molly White once again proving that being on top of being intelligent, well spoken, beautiful and charming, being a crypto sceptic is also majorly attractive.
I love how a common answer to crypto criticism is “do your research” and when challenged you get back the same tired copy pasted answers that don’t really help the case for adoption.
Interesting choice for a guest. It can be useful to hear from someone with a different world view.
YESS!!!!!!!!
Great stuff, you folks all deserve more views.
Thank you!
Such a great podcast. Thank you.
Thank you guys! Do you have a link for the video about what your position is on Cryptocurrencies?
There's many of them, but the episode entitled Bitcoin here might be a good place to start to understand our general position: ua-cam.com/video/Ffbl6WSsSOk/v-deo.html
@@CryptoCriticPod Thanks sir, I'm from the Philippines and FOMO is a really big problem here.
Comment while I'm watching is that I HATED that "have fun staying poor" and in club speak "we're all gonna make it" comments this crypto cycle. It really should have been my opening eye that the space was WAY overheated.
No criticism accepted, just call the guy criticising the project an idiot and call in your "wagmi club bros" to pile in with talking points from the guy taking your money for a useless token or nft set.
I have always enjoyed listening to both sides of something... I want to know when massive investors created this so I wont buy it. I want to imagine the possible use case and say no thats not for me and why would you want the world to be like that.... Look at NYC taxi tags, those could be a real world NFT, you must own it to compete... and uber killed it because it was terrible and crushed competition.
Great episode. Love the show.
Thank you!
Do you edit your videos on Descript to eliminate filler words?
That is not where we edit them!
Huh? That sounds like something I would not want to listen to... Cutting out speech? Maybe if it was a "quick clip" but not for a show. Filler words let you build up a personality.
We do cut out many filler words and tighten up parts
@@CryptoCriticPod editing is censorship
@@CryptoCriticPod I can see that, but automation dmis what makes it weird to me, if that app automates it...
Anyone know of the Mark Andressen interview they allude to in the video?
twitter.com/liron/status/1542929736439017473?s=21&t=UQ23WYolRC3V9FBIScUcIA
Am I crazy but I've heard both of the hosts talk about liking cryptocurrencies because they offer some protection against censorship.
Nope, we have said exactly that, but we have also pointed out that censorship resistance is a double edged sword with counterbalancing costs for its benefit
Overall, good talk, a lot of those who talk a whole lot about the ideals that they supposedly hold whilst selling people a bridge aren’t at all truly sincere in their beliefs - or as a classic saying goes "Deeds, not words".
However, concerning that talking point of "free speech being a right wing talking point", was Molly White implying that free speech is a right wing idea?
I suppose to a certain authoritarian leaning type of leftist, who might think that anti-authoritarian leftist who dare to uphold the ideals of free speech even for people whom they abhor including right-wingers aren’t "true/good leftist", free speech would indeed seem "right wing", but then that would just be his own peculiarly distorted and myopic view of what free speech really is. That is not to mention that by that same funny standard, all the venerable advocates of free speech across the ages and political persuasions whether republican, liberal or socialist would then also all be "right wing".
Claiming “free speech” while limiting speech is a common right wing tactic
@@CryptoCriticPod then they’re not really for free speech, and it would be prudent to clearly call it out as such rather than speaking as she did, which might come off as implying that the ideal that they falsely claim to be supporting is "right wing".
Have you got the timestamp for what you're referring to? Skimming through the transcript I'm having trouble finding the quote, but UA-cam-generated transcripts can be funky.
@@CryptoCriticPod *sigh* free speech and compelled speech i.e. you must refer to me by certain pro nouns in the work place - are not the same thing and you know that...If I requested everyone at work refer to me as "His holiness" or "Chief Dawg" you should rightfully be able to say - "no way, not doing it".
Look...of the three supposed females on this pod cast, I'm going to user the pattern recognition skills all humans are born with to state that Molly is most likely biologically female but you could convince me that Bennet and Cas are slowly transitioning.
@@molly0xfff I think they're referring to "no censorship" starting around 7:54
“The right wing”. Said like 20 times.
Of course it attracts incels!
It's called creepto!
I like the podcast! But the cuts seemed a little excessive and disorienting.
There's been less volatility in the crypto market now that these Titans have been taken out of the game.
*Talk about DEFI flash loan attacks*
I watched the first 5 minutes and found this episode unfortunately to be more opining than providing interesting insights, like in other episodes.
There are libertarians and people who pretend to be libertarians, I am neither but I would show the true libertarians some respect by acknowledging there are wolves pretending to be sheep in the flock... Otherwise, great discussion.
and not to mention the fact that many people of other ideologies, including liberals, socialists (e.g. people like Orwell), and neo-Republicans also embrace similar, albeit not identical, ideals, especially regarding free speech and liberty in general, yet people like Molly White who are so single-mindedly against the alt-right, which is all well and good, somehow seemingly have this huge jump to fallaciously imply that upholding the ideals of liberty or free speech suggests links to the right or the alt-right just because crypto-authoritarians on the right and closeted-alt-right types pay lip-service to liberty.
No, we explicitly talked about how these claimed libertarians were not actually caring about free speech, and were instead instituting codes of acceptable speech
I remember following the skeptic community between ~2002 and ~2010. I'm skeptical/disbelieving of religion because I think it's counter-factual not because I view it as immoral or care how holy the believers are. Eventually I realized it's opposite for some people in that community and some "skeptics" sought to find holes in something they already subjectively disliked for their own very personal reasons. I'm skeptical of crypto for what I hope are practical reasons (lack of practical uses outside of criminal activity, slow and expensive transactions, increasingly high energy use by design, etc.). The smug moralizing in this video is tiresome just like it eventually became with the skeptic community.
Good for Kraken! Good to see a company take a stand against leftist BS.
Molly White is the Perfect combination of Beauty+Brain.
But yeah
But only till she Opens her Mouth 🤣
Please don't it another Extension of Left Ecosystem.
Way too many ads
very shallow understanding of crypto among this panel. also no knowledge of how free markets have worked throughout history. making broad generalizations based on seemingly random "comments" from whoever, wherever. no true research has been done here. drivel.
I agree with the pronoun squashing. There is no value in an employee who cries when others don't join in their delusions. Life and work is about them (and them is plural!).
It is not a delusion to want to be referred to a certain way.
The employee who refuses to consider their co-workers is a much larger issue
Of course it's important to consider co-workers but to be compelled to refer to somebody in a certain way is a much bigger deal. Would you like to be compelled to say something you don't believe? It should be done out of respect not compulsion
The guy on the right trying so hard to use use words that less than 2% youtube audience can understand
Nah, that’s just how I talk
@@CryptoCriticPod we can tell you're extremely smart man, however pls use easier terminology for the average bobby sometime
Never realized this was lefty channel.
Disappointing ep. I think its fair to bring up the libertarian ethos that underpins the creation of the crypto industry, and question those within the crypto industry about it. But I don't care to listen to another crypto critic's liberal political critique of crypto industry that you also share and not adding enough new angles or news. Example of the highs and lows of the episode... the discussion re: wikipedia, I didn't know about the governance board discussion re: accepting crypto and how that all went down (interesting!) but then it tailed off into 'crypto bros don't really believe in democracy.'
Because it was an explicit example of crypto bros reacting poorly to self governance!
Jesse Powell literally said “back to dictatorship” in his thread!
Like the podcast, didn't like the dig at the Mens Rights movement. Unless you think men shouldnt have equal rights where their children are concerned? Which they don't at the moment.
I always find it amazing that feminists are happy having an extreme womens rights movement but ANY attempt by men to get equal rights in divorce courts are derided as hate speech.
gloating for sure! she is so happy. do you kids realize that without FDIC insurance, no bank in the USA can survive a run like Celcius is facing? what is incells? you guys have to go see the world outside America. your little conversation on web3 reminds me of the boomers talking about the internet in 2001. won't age well... weird blurb on VC. unlike what she says, Venture Capital is in fact the best asset class for society. VCs fund innovation, entreprenuers, the young. it's much better for society than stock investing (fattening CEOs) and bonds investing (helping government run disgusting levels of debt). real estate is good, too. it gives people a stake in society. btw kids, if you make enough money to live from this work, then you are part of web 3 (web 1 = platform creates content, platform makes money. web 2 = user creates content, platform makes money. web 3 = user creates content, user makes money). yes scammers suck, and they are dumb. for every $1 they steal, crypto market cap loses $10 at least. glad you bring up decentralization! core to the crypto dream. curious is you have ever used Defi? if you haven't, stop talking about it. could not understand your point about wikipedia and crypto. what happened?
Cope!You can go watch specialists like Michael Saylor or Natalie Brunnel on CNBC.
Oh dear. Buddy she's not gloating, I am!😆😆😆🤧🤧🤧
Funny that cryptobros compare crypto to the internet, while at the same time promising to supplant "web 1". Is the internet not good and if not why call crypto the next internet?
I think an incel is a broke dude spending his life predicting where the squiggly line goes next.
This is not true
Starting with: banks are required to have HQLA for all assets; and then the oft discussed “reserve ratio” discusses what they need in excess of that.
Yes, I’ve used DeFi, plus as I mentioned I have problems in >$1bn protocols.