Breaking Down The Pro Tour Modern Horizons 3 Metagame

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  • Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
  • Frank Karsten's Article on the metagame for Pro Tour Modern Horizons 3 is out and I thought it had a boatload of juicy information, let's discuss!
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  • @jasonkorf7700
    @jasonkorf7700 2 місяці тому +36

    Just remember, Nadu is fine in Modern because Ruby Storm is around. According to Wotc.

    • @iankane3732
      @iankane3732 2 місяці тому +2

      I mean let's see how it performs lol. If it's 25% of the meta but has a terrible conversion rate, then what?

    • @andresantana7876
      @andresantana7876 2 місяці тому +3

      @@iankane3732 It will always have a bad conversion rate because 90% of the matchups is Nadu vs Nadu, so Nadu always losing lmao

    • @iankane3732
      @iankane3732 2 місяці тому +2

      @@andresantana7876 hogaak was also a 20%+ meta share deck and had an absurd like 70% conversion rate. That's what truly busted decks do. We also have the non-mirror winrates we can look at.

    • @grrrama
      @grrrama Місяць тому

      @@andresantana7876 oops

  • @ecpracticesquad4674
    @ecpracticesquad4674 2 місяці тому +13

    Jeskai Dress Down is basically just legacy dreadnaught for modern. Trying to stifle the sac triggers Phlage and Nulldrifter. Those are the decks that are running Consign in the main

  • @zephiel1932
    @zephiel1932 2 місяці тому +7

    I actually think nadu is much stronger than people even realise, playing nadu on mtgo or arena is tiresome as it involves an insane amount of clicking, in paper its 1000 times faster to do and more steamlined, so i dont think it will ever really terrorise online formats, but in paper theres no way this is not hogaak 2.0

  • @WorldofSoupS
    @WorldofSoupS 2 місяці тому +8

    That one mill player has the support of thousands of mill fans

  • @ethanhopper2467
    @ethanhopper2467 2 місяці тому +2

    Jeskai Dress Down: the plan is to flash in Dress Down on your opponents endstep on turn 2, then evoke Nulldrifter on turn 3 so it sticks around.

  • @cerilious
    @cerilious 2 місяці тому +27

    Half of the decks are either Jeskai or Nadu. Not sure I would call that diverse. We'll see the diversity of the top 32. Galvanic Discharge surprised me.

    • @bradcallahan3546
      @bradcallahan3546 2 місяці тому +2

      Cry

    • @CaykeSniffer
      @CaykeSniffer 2 місяці тому +5

      @@bradcallahan3546 Found the Nadu player.

    • @Playingwithproxies
      @Playingwithproxies 2 місяці тому

      Seems like round 1 and 2 should just be put every player up against their own meta and then you could eliminate a good number of nadu decks because they faced nadu decks 😅

    • @anthonyledel2072
      @anthonyledel2072 2 місяці тому

      And a quarter of the decks are other decks.

    • @toddpacker1015
      @toddpacker1015 Місяць тому

      Nadu is the entire top 4 cuh

  • @caseykiesling4348
    @caseykiesling4348 Місяць тому

    There was so much diversity in the top 4 you had bant nadu, a nadu deck in bant color, a bant flavored nadu, and I believe a 4 color nadu. So wonderful to see all these diverse decks doing well

  • @graylord69
    @graylord69 2 місяці тому +3

    Kind of bummed that pretty much all black midrange decks are mono-black. So many interesting and powerful variants of B/x midrange have been popping up lately, from Orzhov to Mardu to Dimir with Psychic Frog... yet we're not really going to see any of them in the Pro Tour.

    • @wherewolf85
      @wherewolf85 2 місяці тому

      25.5% of the field falls under other...62 decks

  • @PsychoEkan
    @PsychoEkan 2 місяці тому +4

    nice to see that the $500-1000 format will have yearly rotating decks.. Really making sure that the future of modern will be less "eternal" than pioneer while being twise as expensive.

    • @miloreinhart
      @miloreinhart 2 місяці тому +4

      The majority of the cost of most decks comes from the manabase and those haven't changed much

    • @user-xk5fs1zu3m
      @user-xk5fs1zu3m 2 місяці тому +2

      they used to be MORE expensive, thank god for fetchland reprints. Just need more shock land reprints now.

    • @WhiteBorderMTG
      @WhiteBorderMTG 2 місяці тому

      Yeah it's definitely gotten cheaper. Remember when tarmogoyf was $200+? Like 500-1000 isn't bad for a competitive modern deck.

  • @bezretmet
    @bezretmet 2 місяці тому +4

    thought for a second when you said "ban discussions" , "yup nadu bant is gonna be a hot topic... wait why did he say the colors not the deck... oooooooh"

  • @darkvalor7665
    @darkvalor7665 2 місяці тому +3

    I love that there is 1 mill deck I'm a mill modern player and even with the meta change I'm a mill player and refuse to play anything else in tournaments even though I know I ain't winning.

  • @AbstractMarcher
    @AbstractMarcher 2 місяці тому +4

    Can't wait to see who the mill player is! LFG! 🦀🦀🦀

  • @Erik_Sjostrom
    @Erik_Sjostrom 2 місяці тому +3

    Watch Grief win and they ban Nadu.

  • @IITh3WorMII
    @IITh3WorMII 2 місяці тому +2

    The one Gigachad not playing MH3 cards is Brian Boss on Gruul Prowess!!!

    • @isambo400
      @isambo400 Місяць тому

      He’s my champion

    • @yoshthen00b
      @yoshthen00b Місяць тому

      Surname absolutely checks out, gigachad

  • @masterofthepearltrident
    @masterofthepearltrident 2 місяці тому +4

    Id bet you anything that the jund creativity player is the one with no MH3 cards

    • @luthix3314
      @luthix3314 2 місяці тому

      My guess is one of the Amulet players.

  • @entertainmentinc9735
    @entertainmentinc9735 2 місяці тому +1

    I thought Grief was powerful and banable, why isn’t there more decks in the pro tour?

    • @iankane3732
      @iankane3732 2 місяці тому +3

      Because grief isn't banworthy on power level, people are just massive babies and cry for it to be banned because it hurts their feelings when they get double thoughtseized lol.

  • @Tuemtuci
    @Tuemtuci 2 місяці тому

    Temur Eldrazi is what I’m rooting for

  • @AlexOvTheAbyss
    @AlexOvTheAbyss 2 місяці тому

    I'll be surprised if they ban Nadu anytime soon (not until sales of packs drop)

  • @PereSuana
    @PereSuana 2 місяці тому +1

    I think Grief is fine now. Meta is really aggressive and sacrificing 2 or 3 cards it’s not anymore a luxury.

  • @Xhadp
    @Xhadp 2 місяці тому

    My prediction of the no MH3 cards in deck is one of the Grief players.

  • @astarte768
    @astarte768 2 місяці тому

    It’s the domain zoo player probably not using mh3 cards

  • @HZAres
    @HZAres 2 місяці тому

    7:35 guessing murktide

  • @danielsash2079
    @danielsash2079 2 місяці тому

    it is most likely a zoo deck i have seen a couple not run any new mh3 cards

  • @kylersaunders6539
    @kylersaunders6539 2 місяці тому +1

    i play mainly on arena lol and can agree Phlage is nuts ive been on 4C Yorion elementals because you know fury isnt banned there and phlage is so much better than uro like its kinda nuts

    • @Xoulrath_
      @Xoulrath_ 2 місяці тому

      Uro never needed to be banned. He only became a problem when Omnath released. God forbid they ban the new card that caused the problem. 😂

  • @pascalraskal9347
    @pascalraskal9347 Місяць тому

    Booster draft oh man i would stay at home before i play this 😂

  • @allencline2954
    @allencline2954 2 місяці тому +1

    Modern looks like standard horizons

  • @Rleasure0XD
    @Rleasure0XD 2 місяці тому

    The no MH3 list is probably domain zoo

  • @quicogil4565
    @quicogil4565 2 місяці тому

    Bird Summer, Bird Summer

  • @pascalraskal9347
    @pascalraskal9347 Місяць тому

    What a joke modern Rotations are, the next nail in the coffin, all my friends are going to legacy and i am to😂

  • @thousand1183
    @thousand1183 2 місяці тому +1

    Where's the meta breakdown for tiny leaders man cmon

  • @gabrielmercier794
    @gabrielmercier794 2 місяці тому +1

    yo amulet titan disapear wtf

    • @Hapkins-le6xf
      @Hapkins-le6xf 2 місяці тому

      Two titan decks

    • @seansmith373
      @seansmith373 2 місяці тому

      Titans just not as consistent better convo decks

  • @celticjordan1
    @celticjordan1 2 місяці тому

    No slivers wow. Of course. Very lacky in all tribal except merfolk. Lol frigin joke… wizards has no creativity what so ever.. no support for any tribes except merfolk 😂😂😂… what a blahhh game…. We need newer tribes and more support for others…

    • @Tyke-Myson
      @Tyke-Myson 2 місяці тому +7

      Sounds like a commanderbrained take, brother. Tribal magic is just kinda never gonna keep up in more competitive formats, not even fishmen.

    • @yurplethepurple2064
      @yurplethepurple2064 2 місяці тому

      @@Tyke-Mysonehhh, legacy goblins are great but other than that you’re right

    • @Tyke-Myson
      @Tyke-Myson 2 місяці тому

      @yurplethepurple2064 I suppose they make for a good enough counterargument, sure. Elves exist in pauper. No rule is universal. And tribal is fun af sometimes, no doubt. Suppose I was more just trying to say "don't get your hopes up."

    • @TheHungryLotad
      @TheHungryLotad 2 місяці тому

      @@Tyke-Myson tribal is doing pretty alright in pioneer at least