Holy crap her Cantonese is very good! I understood most of what she said. I'm still trying to learn Cantonese conjunction words - I know that's so basic but I've always grown up saying "and," "but,", "so", "because", "since", etc. in English. I get embarrassed speaking Chinese in public because when I speak, my sentences is always a mixture of Cantonese, Taishanese and English. Chinese people and my extended family always look at me, like "wtf?"
This is great. My wife is Indian and was born and raised in HK just like her Mom. Most of her family are based in HK and are Indian. Since her aunts and all her cousins were born and raised in HK, they all speak Cantonese with each other like its their native mother tongue. Ofcourse they all can speak pretty good Punjabi and English too. If you know more than 2 languages, its easy to pick up a 3rd or 4th language. Which is why Americans are pretty bad when it comes to learning a new language.
@trent8002003 heard (again, namely thru media), not spoken; and relative against the other Chinese dialects. Mostly because HK produces movies/songs that has garnered significant interest from the rest of the Chinese population. It is the most "well-treated" dialect in this sense (the other being Taiwanese), while other dialects are at risk of being lost thru the govt's push for Mandarin as lingua franca. I am Cantonese myself.
my nany's indian and speaks perfect cantonese =D we sent her back to india tho =[ she was happier to be there....... we gave her pension too =D miss her so much =[
WOW! An hong kong indian...never knew! Makes me wanna go to Hong Kong to learn Cato to! Would be soo cool..or just go to UBC and take a class..either way...funnier to go to HOng kong though.
Living in America, there is often no "need" to learn a second language. English is the world's lingua franca, and effort is best reserved for necessary things. Mastering a language is a matter of necessity or at least convenience. Living in the Southwestern United States, I see a large number of people who are not of Hispanic descent with a good grasp of Spanish.
@trent8002003 Again, what are you talking about? Cantonese is one of the most ubiquitous dialects in China (namely through media) and is commonplace amongst the overseas Chinese people. Its phonetics are not all that complicated vs the spectrum of dialects spoken in Southern China. I dare say Wenzhouhua is undisputedly the hardest Chinese dialect to learn and master; I for one certainly can't make sense of a single word of it.
@bigbossloke Afraid you still live in the 90's. The influence of Cantonese has waned significantly on the mainland. Yes, when HK's TV dramas and Cantopop still reigned supreme over a mainland that was just opening up in late 80's and 90's, Cantonese was THE hip language to learn. But now with the mainland's rise both economically and culturally, PTH is again dominant. That explains the drastic shrinkage of the Cantopop market back to only HK and PRD. BTW, I am cantonese too. Born, raised in HK
If there were no dirty politics around the world we would had such a nice relations with each other. Guys stop critcizing each other for the differences, instead look at the similarities we have, every culture has its own beauty it does'nt matter where it originated or which came first. Spread Peace which is difficult instead of hate which is easy.
lol, are you sure ? I went to Latin America, Europe, Former Soviet states, Arabia and East Asia. People barely speak english there, so English is far from being a lingua Franca. The language are mostly spoken in the former British Commonwealth of India, Malaya (Declining usuage of English in order to preserve their mother tongue), South Africa, Australia, North America. Micronesia and the Caribean.
Arturo Siew but english is the most widely learned foreign language compared to any other foreign language. Just as tamils, telugus, malayalam, ounjabi, gujarati, marathi, etc should not give up their language but should still learn either hindi or english to communicate with people from other parts of india, so too cantonese, taiwanese, hakka, shanghainese and so on should not be forced to give up their language both written and spoken, while not neglecting to learn mandarin, while mandarin should learn provincial languages if not local dialects when coming to southern china, like hindi speakers should learn tamil, telugu etc if they move to stay in tamil nadu and other southern parts of india, same for tagalog vs other in philippines, bahasa vs other in indonesia. Hopefully welsh, gaelic, manx, cornish in uk, breton and provencal, basque in both france and spain, kashubian and sorbian in ex czechoslovakia and poland, and smaller languages like lombardian, venetian, sardinian sicilian etc in italy, bavarian etc in germany, frisian in netherlands, asturian etc in spain can likewise be preserved.
@bigbossloke Ubiquitous??? It's spoken only in a small part of ONE province out of China. How's that ubiquitous? For cities, only HK and Guangzhou use it. Even within the Pearl River Delta, many regions speak their dialets, not Cantonese.
Hey, take a chill pill, you. Aren't you all worked up for nothing. So I was impressed by a foreign-looking person speaking Cantonese, even though that may have been her mother tongue. That's allowed. And how do you know cantonese is her only mother tongue. What makes you so sure that she ain't fluent also in an indian dialect. If she is bilingual, she would be quite a linguist, won't you say?
You're right on HK people not being the greatest linguist. In fact, HK people are notorious for their poor verbal communication skills even in their mother tongue. That's partly because Cantonese is a difficult language to speak because of its loose grammar structure. Kinda like a software that doesn't do much for you but require you to do lots of organisation. Unlike say Mandarin, which with its being more structured, doesn't need the speaker to do so much organisational work.
Nope. Cantonese is all powerful in Guangdong and Hong Kong. But in all other provinces (incl Taiwan), Cantonese doesn't register at all. Karaoke is not a gd indication of the standing of a dialect in today's world. A better indicator is the market size of Canto-pop. Compare that to Putonghua-pop in chinese communities all over the world and you'd know the realitve prominence of Cantonese vs Putonghua. I am a Hong Konger and I think Hong Kong is the best city in the world. But a fact is a fact.
i am also indian in hong kong and i fought against racist chinese since i was 8 yrs old... we indians team up and chase these chinese and beat them... sometime we were ambushed.. remember we caught one chinese guy and i torn his shirt... he have a dragon and eagle on his body!!
If Canadians can accept Chinese to become Canadians, why can't Chinese accept Indians or any other people to become HK people. IF not than Canadians should stop allowing Chinese to become Canadians
I don't disagree with this. And I'm Canadian with Hong Kong roots and residency . Maybe it's a product of my Western upbringing and culture, but I do support diversity and rights to citizenship and residency for ethnic minorities in HK like they have with my family in Canada . Although majority of citizens in HK are Chinese, other groups such as Indians have contributed to this society in whichever way they can for decades.
Holy crap her Cantonese is very good! I understood most of what she said. I'm still trying to learn Cantonese conjunction words - I know that's so basic but I've always grown up saying "and," "but,", "so", "because", "since", etc. in English. I get embarrassed speaking Chinese in public because when I speak, my sentences is always a mixture of Cantonese, Taishanese and English. Chinese people and my extended family always look at me, like "wtf?"
Woah, so perfect accent.
@Artharrex123 She's born and bred there, of course she'll have a local accent.
Im malaysian indian, so many malay or indian speaks cantonese here, even my brother and father speaks cantonese
This is great. My wife is Indian and was born and raised in HK just like her Mom. Most of her family are based in HK and are Indian. Since her aunts and all her cousins were born and raised in HK, they all speak Cantonese with each other like its their native mother tongue. Ofcourse they all can speak pretty good Punjabi and English too. If you know more than 2 languages, its easy to pick up a 3rd or 4th language. Which is why Americans are pretty bad when it comes to learning a new language.
@trent8002003 heard (again, namely thru media), not spoken; and relative against the other Chinese dialects. Mostly because HK produces movies/songs that has garnered significant interest from the rest of the Chinese population. It is the most "well-treated" dialect in this sense (the other being Taiwanese), while other dialects are at risk of being lost thru the govt's push for Mandarin as lingua franca. I am Cantonese myself.
This is awesome!!
my nany's indian and speaks perfect cantonese =D we sent her back to india tho =[ she was happier to be there....... we gave her pension too =D miss her so much =[
this is great. the more languages you learn the better.
WOW! An hong kong indian...never knew! Makes me wanna go to Hong Kong to learn Cato to! Would be soo cool..or just go to UBC and take a class..either way...funnier to go to HOng kong though.
@Jaysidizzle Yes!
@trent8002003 Ok... not 90's though. Mainland, with limited access to youtube :)
--->hehehe as i am an indian myself..
@BADsinger509
lol ya it does
Awesome Cantonese 👍🏻!
Living in America, there is often no "need" to learn a second language. English is the world's lingua franca, and effort is best reserved for necessary things. Mastering a language is a matter of necessity or at least convenience.
Living in the Southwestern United States, I see a large number of people who are not of Hispanic descent with a good grasp of Spanish.
@trent8002003 Again, what are you talking about? Cantonese is one of the most ubiquitous dialects in China (namely through media) and is commonplace amongst the overseas Chinese people. Its phonetics are not all that complicated vs the spectrum of dialects spoken in Southern China.
I dare say Wenzhouhua is undisputedly the hardest Chinese dialect to learn and master; I for one certainly can't make sense of a single word of it.
@bigbossloke Afraid you still live in the 90's. The influence of Cantonese has waned significantly on the mainland. Yes, when HK's TV dramas and Cantopop still reigned supreme over a mainland that was just opening up in late 80's and 90's, Cantonese was THE hip language to learn. But now with the mainland's rise both economically and culturally, PTH is again dominant. That explains the drastic shrinkage of the Cantopop market back to only HK and PRD. BTW, I am cantonese too. Born, raised in HK
Joanne is quite a linguist. She has COMPLETELY mastered cantonese, which is one of the hardest dialects to master.
Singapore, Malaysia, India and Hong Kong were British excolony.
Singapore, Malaysia, Hong Kong consist of Chinese and Indian culture.
If there were no dirty politics around the world we would had such a nice relations with each other. Guys stop critcizing each other for the differences, instead look at the similarities we have, every culture has its own beauty it does'nt matter where it originated or which came first. Spread Peace which is difficult instead of hate which is easy.
lol, are you sure ? I went to Latin America, Europe, Former Soviet states, Arabia and East Asia. People barely speak english there, so English is far from being a lingua Franca. The language are mostly spoken in the former British Commonwealth of India, Malaya (Declining usuage of English in order to preserve their mother tongue), South Africa, Australia, North America. Micronesia and the Caribean.
Arturo Siew but english is the most widely learned foreign language compared to any other foreign language. Just as tamils, telugus, malayalam, ounjabi, gujarati, marathi, etc should not give up their language but should still learn either hindi or english to communicate with people from other parts of india, so too cantonese, taiwanese, hakka, shanghainese and so on should not be forced to give up their language both written and spoken, while not neglecting to learn mandarin, while mandarin should learn provincial languages if not local dialects when coming to southern china, like hindi speakers should learn tamil, telugu etc if they move to stay in tamil nadu and other southern parts of india, same for tagalog vs other in philippines, bahasa vs other in indonesia. Hopefully welsh, gaelic, manx, cornish in uk, breton and provencal, basque in both france and spain, kashubian and sorbian in ex czechoslovakia and poland, and smaller languages like lombardian, venetian, sardinian sicilian etc in italy, bavarian etc in germany, frisian in netherlands, asturian etc in spain can likewise be preserved.
@bigbossloke Ubiquitous??? It's spoken only in a small part of ONE province out of China. How's that ubiquitous? For cities, only HK and Guangzhou use it. Even within the Pearl River Delta, many regions speak their dialets, not Cantonese.
Holy lol, her Canto’s better than mine! Haha
i would love to have a conversation with her.
technically, its the same thing as any immigrated family in American speaking fluent English.
Hey, take a chill pill, you. Aren't you all worked up for nothing. So I was impressed by a foreign-looking person speaking Cantonese, even though that may have been her mother tongue. That's allowed. And how do you know cantonese is her only mother tongue. What makes you so sure that she ain't fluent also in an indian dialect. If she is bilingual, she would be quite a linguist, won't you say?
It completely depends on what she started speaking. Cantonese is not necessarily the mother tongue of everyone born in HKG.
O_o. wow i'm surprised.
WOOHOO.
indians rule
wow
You're right on HK people not being the greatest linguist. In fact, HK people are notorious for their poor verbal communication skills even in their mother tongue. That's partly because Cantonese is a difficult language to speak because of its loose grammar structure. Kinda like a software that doesn't do much for you but require you to do lots of organisation. Unlike say Mandarin, which with its being more structured, doesn't need the speaker to do so much organisational work.
@TheSenseofTouch
Definitely NOT!..... have you seen the way many HK celebrities speak? Absolutely appalling!
第二，三代肯學習華人文化，但近年來多元論興起，新移民反而堅持自身文化，相處有點困難...
Nope. Cantonese is all powerful in Guangdong and Hong Kong. But in all other provinces (incl Taiwan), Cantonese doesn't register at all. Karaoke is not a gd indication of the standing of a dialect in today's world. A better indicator is the market size of Canto-pop. Compare that to Putonghua-pop in chinese communities all over the world and you'd know the realitve prominence of Cantonese vs Putonghua. I am a Hong Konger and I think Hong Kong is the best city in the world. But a fact is a fact.
sounds in canto are so hard 2 pronounce if its not ur mother tongue :(
You gotta to be kidding me.....O.O
i am also indian in hong kong and i fought against racist chinese since i was 8 yrs old... we indians team up and chase these chinese and beat them... sometime we were ambushed.. remember we caught one chinese guy and i torn his shirt... he have a dragon and eagle on his body!!
does she still know how to speak hindi?
If Canadians can accept Chinese to become Canadians, why can't Chinese accept Indians or any other people to become HK people. IF not than Canadians should stop allowing Chinese to become Canadians
I don't disagree with this. And I'm Canadian with Hong Kong roots and residency . Maybe it's a product of my Western upbringing and culture, but I do support diversity and rights to citizenship and residency for ethnic minorities in HK like they have with my family in Canada . Although majority of citizens in HK are Chinese, other groups such as Indians have contributed to this society in whichever way they can for decades.
haha that's like me... my family's from hong kong, yet i plan to major in english in college. their cantonese puts mine to shame >.>