fixing up dream AT desktop - RETRO Hardware
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I'd want that system myself, with a Roland MT-32.
I still have one case like that. But inside is quite modern hardware. Its a Backplane with a PCISA SBC with a Core2Duo CPU.
The first one I got like 17 years back from the trash had some really interesting hardware inside. Was a board with NexGen CPU. Maybe you know that stuff. But I've sold that already... can't keep everything...
If you add "restoration" to the video title you will gain a lot of interested casual viewers, all well deserved - and I'm sure they will subscribe like me. Great job
That is the coolest AT cabinet I have seen. Depending on what you want to use it for (media player, gaming machine or a ordinary computer) You can restore it back to original state, go latest tech or go simple with a Raspberry Pi. Many choices. Just remember to make a video series of the build 👍🏻
I know it’s a huge amount more work, but it’d be great to have you give a quick history of the hardware and why it’s special/significant to you. I’ll keep watching regardless, It’s so cool seeing the Hardware I lusted after back in my Teens. Thank you RETRO 😊
That case is really cool! I’m happy you were able to bring it back to life.
This case looks so cool. I love the digital VU meters. I would’ve LOVE to have this computer case back in the days.
So retro pleasing! Best wishes from Portugal!
What a cool old case! Never seen anything like it. Thanks for saving it and showing it of!
That case is amazing! Great job fixing it up!
Wow! Amazing! Great build! And a great video!
Great job with the case so far! :D
Hi, this is really nice restoration, but please note one thing. The wiring are done wrong, you have replaced the + and i - on the speakers, that's why the lower frequencies are bad. When you turn the balance to the right speaker the bass is ok. The same for the only left speaker. You need to unsolder the wire on the left speaker and replace + with - wire and solder it again and the sound will be even better. Regards.
Thanks for notification. Wiring is like original. Both blacks on - and coloured on +. You can check in 5:32. I will try replace it handly on PCB with external cons. You right with balance. Thanks for this.
Both are 4ohms which means load is the same. There's no such thing as "struggling"...
@JAzzy: yep
Actual info: I tried change +/- on this "angry" speaker and nothing. So I switched sides L/P and problem run to other speaker = some problem is with amplifier. Need check all components on amp PCB.
A couple of thoughts on this, 4 ohm 10W speakers are rated for 2x the power of your original 5 W, so they probably take more power to drive in lower frequencies, hence if you have an amp that was designed around 4 ohm 5 watt max load its probably not going to be very effective at driving those. Also, if you reverse polarity on one set of speakers, it can effectively cancel out the other side, reducing lower frequency, but this doesn't seem to be the case. It would be a pretty easy thing to upgrade the amp on that unit anyway. :)
Try to change and increase main filter capacitor(s) on amp's power unit (if exists) or where the ps cables connected on amp's pcb. Otherwise I would suspect on tone control unit and sealing of the loudspeaker room.
Now that is a blast from the past. I've haven't seen an AT case like that.
In my first job in IT, we sold probably 150 of these cases with our machines, it was our top of the range case for 486 multimedia systems for a good few years. Damn, that's some memories.
I always wanted one of theses cases. They were all the rage for a couple of years. I remember them being called multimedia cases. Nice restoration of the case. Can see will get lots of fun out of it. And has to be the dual pentium.All the kids will be so jealous of that case and dual pentiums.
У тебя золотые руки и трепетное сердце. Спасибо!
Что, он знает русский?
I totally love it!
EDIT: I had that Power VR back in the day. Loved that card.
Awesome case. Pentium fast Pentium 200-300mhz. Two mic inputs...karaoke...need to hear you sing a test that. I was expecting vinegar for the rust...the sand blaster was cool.
Haha karaoke :-)))) Yep with my voice will be "nice" singing ... maybe if nobody 100km around.
@@RETROHardware 😆
Nice Case and well done Job Mate
I've never seen a unit like this. I want one! I like the upfront stereo look and sound, and especially that it has physical treb/bass/volume knobs.
done a really good job, does look like an hifi system but you done really well well worth the time restoring
wow, I've never seen a case like that before!
i had one back in old days
Very nice rebuild work. Enjoy watching your attention to detail. Please show us more of the same.
Will be video with P1 setup inside.
I dream of one day having multiple versions of these kind of console computers from retro to brand new bleeding edge tech. So cool.
that dual pentium board is an eyecatcher for sure
That looks cool but I absolutely love that CD changer :)
well done, bravo!
Outstanding sound system
Love it
I wish i have one
Excellent restore on the case bezel and audio circuits. Should make for a very unique retro system :)
So cool never seen one of these before
Cool computer case.
oye viejo, buen video otra vez. Debo decir que me gusto mucho lo que hiciste con esa maquina. Recuerdo que yo tuve en mi poder un 586 DX a 100Mhz... era una cosa tan hermosa sin embargo por falta de espacio la triture y ahora cuando veo tus videos y los de otro canal llamado TunerViejuner me siento como un tonto por lo que hice. pero en fin, fue bueno volver a recordar y admirar el trabajo que hiciste y lo hermosa que es esa pieza de hardware que restauraste.
Very nice case !
That's one awesome case. Looks more like audio equipment than a PC
I had such an AT desktop from 1996 to 2001. 486DX100 :)
That was brilliant. Thanks
truly epic
Very nice restoration 👍
What a magnificent case, I would love to have one. It is by far one of the most beautiful and functional, and it is very difficult to combine beauty with functionality. 👑
I`ve got this case new old stock, in box. Just a week ago=) But mine have only volume control. It is so cool to find this video. Great restoration!
Cool!
Amazing good job..!!!
Thats a beautiful old machine
Шикарный корпус для компьютера.
Que bonito era el disiño retro de este pc que padre que lo restaures
This one is great !
Surface rust can be removed with citric acid.
Easy and cheap.
That thing is cool as hell. I'd make it a sleeper build and throw a modern itx system in it
It's like the boombox of cases!!
This is your daily dose of Recommendation
Boombox PC
you have some really cool hardware, thanks for sharing it with us. I truly enjoy your channel even if it does cost me a bunch of money on ebay.
The 2 processors board is my favourite.
cool. I still have the same computer in the basement. has been there for more than 20 years ..
That Socket-5-Board with these "golden"-like PCI-slots looks cool. But i would also go for DUAL-Pentium. Maybe an V²-SLI-Setup (if available)...
Awesome AT-Case and great refurbish-skills btw.
Now i want to hear some good game soundtrack on this.
This remind me of my project back in college i use a creative cd~rom that came with a remote made by creativ so i can play music even its not connected to the computer
Круто, я и не знал, что такие были.
It`s fantastic. I had the same computer case in early 1996. It was my first PC with Pentium I 133MHz / 8mb RAM / 250MB HDD / CD / FDD.
and what?
@@sandow8411 I`ll sold it )
I would want one of those amplifier looking pc cases myself
Ohh man, I almost forgot about Winamp. Ahh memories... !!
If i am not mistaken it is no nothing inside,but audio electronics from the late seventies.The legendary "model 190".
I think the grille from the speakers would look better in black, and there would be less defects
and in general a cool multimedia case, in his childhood he dreamed of something like that
I love these old cases. One thing i noticed when you adjusted the balance from left to right was that you got more bass when only one speaker was playing then when both speakers played the bass died down. You may have to swap around the negative and positive speaker cables on one of the speakers to fix the issue. When i started installing car stereos i would always wire the wrong cable up to the terminal resulting in low bass when both speakers played and a pounding bass when i played the left or right speaker only. Sometimes the marking on the speaker or cable dont match up resulting in what i use to call a negative bass effect.
Thanks for notice. I allready got this by other guys and allready tried change +/- and nothing. Problem is with amp.
@noxxi knox Thanks for the correct technical term.
This design!!! THIS IS THE BEST COMPUTER EVER !!!
wow, within 20mins I already got a like, It never happened to me. LOL Those built-in speakers , those volumes meters, all the audio settings in the bottom, the turbo button, the mhz display , the multi cd, i mean WOW !!!!! did I forget something ? NICE RESTORATION !!! I just recently ordered some nice pieces to assemble an at-pc running Windows 95 OSR2,a Fujitsu 10gig HDD ,ATC-1000 motherboard which can be set from 75mhz up to 200mhz, Intel pentium 1(166mhz) socket 7 with a heatsink + fan already installed with 32 mb Ram and a Gainward Dragon 4000 Voodoo Banshee Pci which has a heatsink+fan with a Soundblaster Vibra 16 (or maybe Ess1938) all in a very big tower with a 3 digit display ,turbo button and both floppy drives (3.5 and 5.25) I/O card for a Mouse in the printer port and some AT keyboard. I already have a power supply Enermax E200P-U along with a CD-Rom drive and a USRobotics 56.k pci modem. Yes !! I intend to use some Dial-up connection and try to download some file with the program called 'GetRight' which is one of the first program to Resume a download. You know ,that dark era when you would try to download whatever you wanted to download BUT someone in your family tried to use the phone and they got LOUD NOISES instead while your download just aborted !! You would have to restart that 1 hour download !! There was GetRight and later Download Accelerator, You could also create a queue list of downloads you want, something Internet Explorer or Netscape etc... didnt offer yet. Those programs would activate as soon as a download start ,it would start in let's say, GetRight and the best thing was a female voice saying things like : 'Starting to download ' or 'Your file is done' Recorded in .Wav at very low quality!! I must be insane right? I can't wait to receive all the pieces of the puzzle!! Meanwhile your video is like everything I would want in a PC . PERIOD
AYBABTU
Just the amount of Mhz displays or turbo button setups you have YOU ROCK SIR !!! I installed one in my Packard Bell Legend 125 and I'm waiting for an Intel overdrive to bring from Intel 486SX 25mhz to Intel Overdrive486dx2 66mhz with heatsink so I will have atleast 2 Ms-dos setups to fool around doing benchmarks and while my plan was to only upgrade the processor of the packard bell, look now, I really ordered a lot of stuff to assemble a 'brand new' tower that back then in 1992 I could not even ask my parents to buy it, my dad said it was too expensive and my friends had those nice computers with turbo buttons LUL !!!!! Just a mhz display is like how life is meant to be!!! When I had my first Pc , i was 15 , in 1998 and it was a celeron 333mhz(no turbo or mhz display) with a diamond viper v550 and FF7 was laggy :P but overall was satisfied with other games and emulators. I could play AvP but there was a bug just before the game load the mission. You would have to press SpaceBar really quick or else the loading would crash the game and for me IT WAS THE ONLY WAY TO PLAY AVP !! At that time I knew atleast 2 friends who had better PCs with Voodoo3 and man FF7 and AVP was SMOOTH on a Voodoo3 !!
Wow.... that's awesome ASI TBird
Good job!!! ;-)
wow i like it.
I can not believe what i am seeing in front of my eyes. This is a ultimate modding or even sleeper case with it's height, when i find one i jam a ryzen and a gtx in it.
Cool idea but it's AT which is a different layout to ATX so you're going to have problems.
That is a BEAUTIFUL AT case! Love it!! Not sure which mobo/CPU to vote for (I like them all) but I vote against installing the EWS64 module because I really like the front panel as it is now with both types of floppy drives and the CD changer. I see you've got both soundcards I have in my own retro PC's - the CT3670 in my Slot 1 rig and CT3780 in my Super Socket 7. I also vote for sandblasting and repainting the metal part of the case so it'll look really nice. It looks challenging to spot-repair well. I think I'm gonna go play with my desktop rig now! It's an AMD K6-2+ 550 setup built inside a new-old-stock beige desktop case. It's not as fancy looking as your case but everything is really nice and clean which is important to me.
Lol Quake 3 as usual is best sound card/bar benchmark ;)
With song by Ozzy ... video deleted in one hour because copyright :-)
WooooooW , mega !!!!!!!!!!!!!
I would stick either a RPi inside or a mITX to make a full gaming/media system out of that, and a 5 1/4" PC EQ
I had the same case years ago.... mine was a 486 DX4/100 AMD board.... 20 years or so ago *g*
dual pentium mate ! :)
I’am not sure with this because main problem is ... OS. With dual I can use NT only. This OS is crap.
@@RETROHardware because only NT supported dual processors. Try a stripped down linux. Windows 2000 wasn't awful either really.
@@RETROHardware Dual Pentium was a joke (the executable has to fit in the L1 cache). Dual Pentium Pro was not because each CPU had a dedicated L2 cache. I tried to run dual and learned this the hard way after spending way too much on a Tyan Tomcat IV D motherboard in 1998. Two years later I bought an Abit BP6 and ran dual overclocked Celeron 366 CPUs. That machine was a beast. I ran Windows 2000, then XP Pro. I could never get my graphics card to run under NT 4.0.
I wonder if there was a case like this for ATX form factor..
nice case :)
I wonder if you could hide an intel NUC install inside with a big fan in the case rear ?
Good old times😎
A part of me thinks such a kickass case needs a kickass dual cpu motherboard, but then again, that depends on your opinion on windows NT4, or of using odd and perhaps ancient unix/linux setups.
We need more titanium case's...))
Dual CPU would be the coolest! A bit like dual VU meters on the front :)
Oh, just read below about NT. Yes this is true, but I remember us trying to deal with it anyway even for gaming and such, because it felt so much more "professional" and reliable than Windows 95/98.
my first pc was a pentium 1, 100mhz (99.7) with 16mb of ram (later upgraded to 32mb) and it had some sort of 3d capability, i could play a few old 3D games on it
Try a non-Pentium 586, like Cyrix or K5, if you have any. Nice restoration so far. :)
I have all these brands, but Intel is ... Intel :-)
go with the dual pentium and turn that thing into a lovely NT workstation
I need a case like that sooooooo bad.
Very nice machine indeed. I wonder how hard would it be to manufacture this kind of retro case today new. I mean what would be the price of that if made in small to medium numbers.
If you haven't done it yet, go with the dual proc board and do indeed, sandblast and repaint the case.
I think it's cool you're still using Winamp. I love that shit.
I would say it has a cult following but cults are idiots. Winamp is still very relevant.
you can remove rust with : dough+salt+vinegar. you can make it thin or thick as you wish. easy and safe to work with. you can whiten plastic with hydrogen peroxide and sunlight - watch for over whitening if you do only partial. I would repaint the case - remove all paint and do antirust layer than beige. very unique case. love it !
Yep I used vinegar and for metal cover will do same way only localy and will see.
Nice computer.
Is the original hardware missing/broken?
In general, there was an unusual NexGen Nx586-P80 processor there.
(ASI TBird PC 586/80)
Nice case. U should go with Dual Pentium with awe32 or awe64 and matrox plus 3dfx voodoo card. And Windows NT4 or 2000 with at least 64mb of ram.
Interesing design of such pc case, very rare because of all the electronics inside and the controls. The sound comes comes from audigy LINE OUT correct? not audigy speaker out.
MY OPINION: This case is definately for home multimedia PC. On your desktop you have conventional hardware as well as workstation components. Matrox, S3 Vision comes from workstations, dual pentium comes from workstation/server. If you think to restore this pc as non-MMX home multimedia pc I recommend you go with single cpu socket5 or 7. Also voodoo cards my best bet to use them in MMX system to get them full potential in 3D. Either pentium 75-133 (socket5) + s3 trio64/tseng et6000 or MMX setup 166-233(socket7) + voodoo1. If you think of mmx I strongly recommend HX/TX chipsets. In one of my high-end Pentium 1 builds I am using: Shuttle HOT 569, MMX233, Matrox Millenium 1, Canopus Pure3D. 64MB (max cachable anyway). thanks for consideration
I like this alot. Do you have a Pentium 120mhz? It was an oddball frequency for budget systems. Your collection is amazing. Thank you for the videos.
I think that I have all freqs from socket 4 to 7.
man I want that dual pentium board!
Hi, great video. I'd urge you to look at a Socket 7 with a 430/439 HX Chipset. Gigabyte HX 2.0 was an excellent Socket 7board. I currently run a AMD K6-3+ on a Tyan S1590 for Super Socket 7 but if I was doing it again I'd go for the HX and maybe MMX 233.
Fastest at board/chip combo of course, 1 vote for pentium 133 since I had one way back when.
do a full repaint, man!
Hmm. maybe socket 5, s3 video, and sb16 with dream board. Or, socket 7, matrox millenium/mystique + Voodoo1, awe or EWS.
This case have big sucess in 90s! I have one man, but RED
Can I buy that off you?
Great video! :D I love this case :) It's also a bit difficult to know what type of hardware to put in. When looking at your case as it is built now, I can't immediately associate it to either a 386, 486 or early pentium. But the case is more cozy then high end to me. Or It's cozy to high end. I think I would try to make it into a 486 machine. Then the cd-rom changer, as awesome as it is, be to modern. Perhaps I would install a dx4 100mhz with awe32. Perhaps you can also install a soundblaster 16 along side the awe32? But you just got to look at the machine and let the design tell you what hardware it should have.
s7 P1 133-166 will be fine. Sound is big question but some SB + wavemodule mabye. I don’t have Gravis or other beast like this.
Awesome Case, i love the volume indicators. There are Socket 370 AT mainboards. Would use one of them along with a Tualatin PIII. Then you could run XP or Linux and use it as a music center :)
I have a Socket370 AT board but it can't cope with Tualatin PIII. Can you give me the model of the mainboard
@@TheotanyaSama Almost every Socket 370 board that supports Coppermine PIII will work, for example the PCCHIPS M755LMR.
To install a Tualatin, you will need a Tualatin Adapter that is basically a socket that connects to the socket build on the board. The tualatin then goes into the socket that makes it cope with non-tualatin chipsets. These adapters are hard to get, but you can also hack the build in socket as shown on these pictures:
www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?t=39993&p=534289#p534289
This is some work, but it might be worth it. It seems like all you have to do is open the socket, desolder a few pins and bridge other pins with wire. The shown part is a slotket but it works with mainboards as well. I have used a hacked board myself and it runs stable. It wasnt a Tualatin hack, but rather a Pentium III-S Server CPU to desktop socket 370 hack. It is done almost exactly the same.
Nice. A key question. Does the turbo button affect Pentium processors? Turbo botton slow down old processors but i dunno if can handle pentiums, and positive case, does turbo slow down pentium enought to play early ms-dos games?? I have a similar proyect in stand by, aprecciate yours anwers.