The position of the nock is going to determine the position of the vanes if you're using a fletching jig, just align the nock with the line and you're good to go. Why anyone would try to glue their vanes freehand is beyond me, but if you do, inconsistent spine alignment is going to be the least of your concerns.
@@dick-gs9tb Nocks move. It's inevitable. Ally's suggestion makes sense. Lots of people use the Bitzenburger with the Zenith adapter because the standard jig rotation apparatus has play in it and isn't well suited for doing micro diameter shafts. So you either pull the nock and use the adapter or you insert the nock pin bushing only into the jig. A reference line to the end makes good sense and would make lining up the spine much easier.
Great video Kudos to Victory Archery This is not talked about often enough...I've been an archer for 30 yrs and have my arrows built by someone else.. i know they never been indexed...Changing to Victory !! consistancy is name of Accuracy game.. I just started Bare shaft tuning last year and looked for rotation of Bare shaft Clockwise or counter clockwise to choose left or right Helical..Again not mentioned enough Maybe you can do Tech Tuesday discussing bare shaft rotation and proper selection of left or right helical
I've noticed red paint spots in the ends of your 3dhv arrows.. are those also marking the stiff side? (and the side opposite it or 180 deg to it is also a stiff side)
Ok great video and thanks for the info...I have one question though. If I fletch with 4 vanes would it be ok if I kept the the 6 o'clock and 12 o'clock as you were saying and basically 45 my vanes or do you recommend to keep 2 of the 4 vanes in line with the spine? The only reason I ask is to get more sight and cable clearance. Any input would be great thanks.
The spine align is referencing the seam of the arrow during construction, making a stiffer seam down 1 side. Example would be to take a sheet of paper, and form into a cylinder. Where the 2 edges meet is the seam or spine align side. Cutting the arrow will not change the seam or spine align. Cutting the arrow will change the effective spine stiffness though. Spine numbering is measuring the deflection @ 28" long. Example, a 300 spine arrow cut to 28" will flex X amount. That same arrow 300 spine cut to 26" will fleas less than X amount, thereby acting as a stiffer spines arrow for that shooter. Likewise if the same 300 spine arrow is left at 30" for a longer draw, it will act as a weaker spined arrow for that longer shooter.
So, I learned about this spine alignment after I fletched and removed decal from the arrow. Is there any way to find this spine alignment now that I’ve erased the marks?
What if the fletchings don’t match the spine, my bow shop fletched my arrows but the cock vane isn’t aligned and varies arrow to arrow, can I just make sure the nock is in the correct position?
You need to make the spine align,line longer to the end of the shaft so we can set the fletching on it.
Excellent suggestion!
Yea good point
The position of the nock is going to determine the position of the vanes if you're using a fletching jig, just align the nock with the line and you're good to go. Why anyone would try to glue their vanes freehand is beyond me, but if you do, inconsistent spine alignment is going to be the least of your concerns.
@@dick-gs9tb Nocks move. It's inevitable. Ally's suggestion makes sense. Lots of people use the Bitzenburger with the Zenith adapter because the standard jig rotation apparatus has play in it and isn't well suited for doing micro diameter shafts. So you either pull the nock and use the adapter or you insert the nock pin bushing only into the jig. A reference line to the end makes good sense and would make lining up the spine much easier.
Great video Kudos to Victory Archery
This is not talked about often enough...I've been an archer for 30 yrs and have my arrows built by someone else.. i know they never been indexed...Changing to Victory !! consistancy is name of Accuracy game.. I just started Bare shaft tuning last year and looked for rotation of Bare shaft Clockwise or counter clockwise
to choose left or right Helical..Again not mentioned enough
Maybe you can do Tech Tuesday discussing bare shaft rotation and proper selection of left or right helical
Should probably put the spine align arrow closer to where the fletching goes
If I buy factory fletched arrows from Victory, will they come with the cock vane indexed to the spine alignment?
Yes
Wouldn’t it be nice if the spine alignment mark was at the knock end of the arrow?
I've noticed red paint spots in the ends of your 3dhv arrows.. are those also marking the stiff side? (and the side opposite it or 180 deg to it is also a stiff side)
How to fletch them? You place the tri-liner along the spine align line?
For compound you want the cock vane. Top/ vertical vane fletched right in Center of the line he talking aboutin the first(compound) half
do you guys have somewhere that consumers can make suggestions
Ok great video and thanks for the info...I have one question though. If I fletch with 4 vanes would it be ok if I kept the the 6 o'clock and 12 o'clock as you were saying and basically 45 my vanes or do you recommend to keep 2 of the 4 vanes in line with the spine? The only reason I ask is to get more sight and cable clearance. Any input would be great thanks.
I wish companies would answer questions on youtube. That frustrates me when they don’t. Did you ever find an answer?
Look into method archery.. they 4 fletch and automatically offset to account for cable clearance as well as spine allign
very interesting, like another comment I was wondering if when you cut the arrow does the spine align change?
The spine align is referencing the seam of the arrow during construction, making a stiffer seam down 1 side. Example would be to take a sheet of paper, and form into a cylinder. Where the 2 edges meet is the seam or spine align side.
Cutting the arrow will not change the seam or spine align.
Cutting the arrow will change the effective spine stiffness though.
Spine numbering is measuring the deflection @ 28" long.
Example, a 300 spine arrow cut to 28" will flex X amount.
That same arrow 300 spine cut to 26" will fleas less than X amount, thereby acting as a stiffer spines arrow for that shooter.
Likewise if the same 300 spine arrow is left at 30" for a longer draw, it will act as a weaker spined arrow for that longer shooter.
So, I learned about this spine alignment after I fletched and removed decal from the arrow. Is there any way to find this spine alignment now that I’ve erased the marks?
What if the fletchings don’t match the spine, my bow shop fletched my arrows but the cock vane isn’t aligned and varies arrow to arrow, can I just make sure the nock is in the correct position?
Yes. So long as you're not getting fletching contact on your rest moving the nock to match up with the spine is the same thing.
I saw another video where if you cut your arrows, the spine indexing changes. Is this true for victory arrows?
I hate that they don’t answer question on here
I don't understand the difference between the point of highest spine and the stiff axis. Please enlighten me.
What is that background noise for? Time to go.
I just fletched all my tko and vap and I didn't use the spine alignment. Shit
Don’t feel bad, pros at bow shops don’t all the time. Had to get 24 redone because they didn’t
If you cut the arrow the spine is no longer aligned with the lable mark.
How so. I've never had the spine change when shortening an arrow?
Day six arrows don't have weak or stuff axius in their arrows