2:52 - This is not true. It does have a web UI that you can log into if you wanted. 3:30 - This is also not true. It does have the built in AV packet inspection.
I'm in I.T. (Security, not Networking) and when he said that I was like "really?! I had no clue"..then he said he was joking..DOH! He definitely has a great poker face! lol
Wifi Signals do travel downwards better than upwards, so the higher the modem the better wifi signal/speed you can get on the same level where the router is located.
Ours is a two-story house and I followed your example and connected the 3 Decos via a backhaul. The wifi speed test results went from the 100s to the 500s. Thanks for the great tip.
7:24 Thank you!!! This is what I've been looking for in a review. Very technical overall, searched for TP-Link mesh system reviews and luckily you had one! Already a subscriber from your Plex related content.
I have gigabit broadband, and I have these plugged directly into the modem via ethernet (included cable) and I'm getting 40mbps down right next to the pod. Not good at all
Sorry to ask but how good is this? I own a 130mb fiber connection which by using a regular TP-Link AC750 Universal Dual Band Range Extender gets around 30-50 Mbps to the Living Room. The distance of the Living Room from the VM Router is roughly 9-13m. (On Ground Level while the Router is on Level 1) Do you think a system like this will give me at least 100mpb at that point or will i still have an issue with it?
I had a bad experience with these last week and they went back to the supplier after a few days. I upgraded the firmware immediately after setting them up and they looked fine at first. However despite the fact that I'd connected the second unit via Ethernet backhaul (after setting them all up wirelessly) they kept going from "Strong signal" to "Disconnected". The second unit (not the one furthest from the base) kept flashing a red light. They did this several times and, despite there being three of them, proved much less reliable than the two Google Wifi units they were to replace. I'm now back to Google Wifi. Yes, the Google units devices disconnect occasionally when I go to the limits of the wireless signal, but the units don't disconnect from each other, so they do fulfil the basic function of a mesh system.
Thanks for the review. This was incredibly helpful. Even with 3 nodes I would gain 16x the speed I currently have, so I'm happy with that. Walmart seems to have a 2 pack for less money if anyone is interested. Not everyone needs a 3rd unit, so for $90, I'd say its a great deal!
I bought this the other day and have it installed in a 3200sq/ft home with three levels plus basement. I have four kids plus me and a tenant on the mesh. The master deco is installed in the middle of the home 2nd flr and of course ethernet wired to my wifi router. The 2nd deco is ethernet attached to wifi router and installed on main floor near front of home. The third unit is installed in first flr dining room area near rear of home not ethernet attached so relies on the wifi uplink to the master deco on 2nd flr. Last scan shows nearly 40 devices including amazon sticks, 6 wyze cams, laptops, chromebooks, thermostats smartphones, xbox’s etc. My Internet is FIOS 100Mbps pkg. This appears to be a robust system even for the wifi clients connecting through the third non ethernet attached deco. I will know more once Kids return to remote learning and 3-5 zoom and webex sessions. I had previously been running 2 wifi routers on opposite ends of the house in bridge mode but the performance was perceptibly less than the new deco mesh. Most likely due to the MU-MIMO feature of the newer unit. Overall very happy so far.
8:00 - Over 100MBps, both ways, isn't bad. Lol. And it's doing all this with no wires. That is crazy good. Lol. This is also highly dependent with where you have each of the units placed. I set some up yesterday and they got near the same speeds they would get when wired up but, they were also probably placed better to keep that connection speed high.
How WiFi speed do you pay for and what are the speed you get and also what is your Internet provider I’m in the market I’m just looking at all my options
Mine have been working fantastic. I have MoCa 2.0 ethernet back haul. They added management capabilities with the last firmware / app updates. With fast roaming / 5 GHZ I'm getting 425 Mbps on my iPhone XS Max.
About your Complain with the low speed via Wifi mode: Its because they basically act like Wifi Repeaters when the connect to each other. Because of that Bandwith between each "Hop" is cut in half, like with a repeater, thats just the Nature of Wifi. Hope its understandable. So there is nothing you (or TPLink) can do about that, except for better Chipset with overall higher throughput which then also gets cut in half again. Thats just for clarification, not that i think u dont know that, but if thats the case, then now u do lol. Have a nice Day Jason and as always --> Nice Video :)
the major drop on the wifi backhaul is because the m4 deco's are only dual band, so instead of a third dedicated 5ghz backhaul like the m9 and orbi and google wifi and various other mesh wifi systems, it's sharing the 5ghz network with all the devices connected to it, which shows the issue
I have dead zones so I'm thinking about buying this (2 packs) as access points connected to my existing router through a lan cable. Even tho the third one drops to 120 ish, its incredibly fast. 100 mbps is very fast considering you only need like 7 to 10 mbps to stream 1080p comfortably
Yes using the wifi back haul slows things down obviously. But if you don't have an ehtenet cable in that corner of your house the choice would be: slow internet or no internet at all. Still an easy choice right? But if ultimate speed without ethernet is what you're after you probably would buy the Deco M9 anyway with its dedicated 5GHz back haul capabilities.
i have this same mesh system and plugged the second deco into the first one using an ethernet cable and i’m still getting the same speeds 100/20 and i subscribe to 400/20 i don’t understand how you got faster speeds? any help would be appreciated
@@tauntonlad do u think the mesh wifi can go pass through walls?my room and my sister room just side each....I'm planning to buy those but also considering of how strong TP-Link M4.The main question is,Can the mesh M4 go pass through the walls?or is it going to slow down the signal?
Bit confused, you said 126mbps was the maximum speed when connecting wireless to the 3rd device, then did a walkaround with sweetspot and averaged 300?
I currently have the M5 and it's working very well but I plan to switch it from router mode to AP mode with ethernet backhaul. Reason is I miss my Ubiquiti Security Gateway and all its advanced features with usable reports like which device is visiting which websites and how much data was used by each individial device per day, week or month.
The thing that slows it down is its lack of a third band dedicated to backhaul. Thats why the Orbi is so fast. It has a dedicated wireless backhaul that works great.
Yes of course, because he said wifi is heavier than air, so you'll need to get humidifiers for the rooms to stabilize the pressure. Once you reach optimum humidity, the wireless connections perform ethernetic.
Thanks for doing this review. I will have to check out other affordable mesh system. I can only wire one of them and the other two would have to bunny hop to each other. My other thought is what other loss would happen when you run the cat5 20 - 30 feet from the main deco.
Wondering if someone who already has these, has some insight in regards to my question. My Router is downstairs, I would be using the main Deco here w/ ethernet (to establish the network), the next Deco would be going into my Office/main room and I'm wondering if I set-up the deco in my office, would I be able to use Ethernet to establish that connection? I tend to avoid using Wireless if I can.
Good Content! What if you connnect this to a fast TP-Link AC Router? Will that Router be part of the mesh assuming that you use the same AP name? Or will the Router act as a wifi range extender (different MAC id) and not part of the Mesh? TIA! 😊
@@SpicyBoyWithACherry I wish. My house predates the internet.... Although, now you mention it, I wonder would powerline connectors work in this case to provice the Ethernet backhole...
That's why this review is a joke. The M4's don't have a dedicated backhaul. So nodes are sharing bandwidth between each other. The M4's are great value for money but if you want speed without cables buy something a bit more expensive with dedicated backhaul.
I am sorry but I need to make something clear. Should I need to connect them to each other like from one to two and two to three via cable or all seperated cable to main modem or connect to same switch is fine to get a minimum lose? Thanks in advance
My C5400 wifi started going out (it will still broadcast my network but I cannot connect to the wifi; rebooting would temporarily solve the problem; this also happened to my previous router). I was going to buy a pair of Wireless Access Points but then I ran into these Deco M4s on a sale page in my e-mail. I checked them out and the 3-pack would be less expensive than the 2 WAPs I was going to buy. I liked the one SSID for both 2.4Ghz and 5.0Ghz albeit you cannot choose which one you are on (you could on the C5400). For my house, coverage seems great, through put is good (two of the Decos are ethernet backhauled, the 3rd is not), and I'm pretty happy with them thus far. Time will tell.
Thanks for the review. I'd like to have a question. I have a TP link Archer C2 router, and I'm struggling with the range (mainly the 5GHz one). can I just simply connect one of these Deco devices via cable to my router to extend the range and still work as a mesh so they make a single network with automatic switching? Thanks for the answer in advance.
Question I'm looking at the Orbi satellite, mesh wifi dual band 5g Vs. the Google Mesh AC1200 Whole-Home WiFi System 3-Pack which overall do you think would work better in a old double wide mobile home with 3 bedrooms looking for your reply, thanks for the great video as well,Kraigalso I can get the TP-link Deco S-4 3-pack for 114.00 on amazon to throw that into the mix as well.
does the system is build a wifi router, that means i can remove the router that came with the modem and substitute with the TP-link? or using the actual router will be better, can you please guide me with that?
sounds like it's a good choice for me I live in a two storey house, i have already got an Ethernet cable from main router on ground floor connected directly to my desktop on 1st floor. I have also got another ethernet cable from main router to living room, I can just get a 2 pack, setup deco#1 on ground floor living room, then 2nd deco next to my desktop, connect the ethernet cable from main router to deco #2 then a short ethernet cable from deco#2 to my desktop (since deco has 2 ports, for best connection)
Thinking about picking this up. But wondering what speeds I would get because my modem is on the second floor of my house right in the middle and thinking of having the other decos on the first floor but one on each side of the house so there would be no hopping from one to another to another, just one talks to the main one in the middle.
Just an FYI, they do allow you to connect via a web portal to get into settings. I have the Deco M5 and they are beyond awesome, Google WIFI sux ass. And pretty much all Mesh systems will have the drop in speed as you 'bunny hop'. The only ones that won't are setups with dedicated wireless backhauls.
Do we need to have a modem if the incoming ISP line is a cat6 RJ 45 line? Or any of the RJ45 terminals in these routers have a direct WLAN input capability built in where i can ditch the modem altogether?
YES you can do it, the way I did it !! In my 3 floors multihouse, I have a router and an Tp-link access point, for all over coverage, but it had a few coverage holes. So I bought yesterday 2 pairs (4pieces) of these Deco M4 (the m4's is gigabit transfer) and attach one of them at the router at center of building in 2nd floor and another piece of it at bedrooms area and synchronized succesfully. Then I put at below floor 1 at center area and another at bedrooms, who both were synchronized automatically to the above "intranet mesh" . DO NOT FORGET when the installation application asks for area coverage, to choose 1 OR 2 floors.. This probably changes the transmitting force !! Results ?? ... All the building is NOW fully covered conveniently !! As for the networks?? I NOW have 2 networks 2,4 and 5Ghz directly from the router, and one (1) network named by me transmitting by the 4 boxes of Deco M4... and finally another network, coming from the old Tp-link access point !! Thinking that the OLD system isn't necessary anymore, I removed that OLD access point and the networks remained 3 now and so if I then close the router Wi-Fi transmit of the router, I will then have only, the one network, that is made up by the TP-Link Deco M4 Whole Home Mesh WiFi System (4 pieces in total) and named by me. Finally am happy that I bought them, cause they proved they really work !! I hope I will work for you also...
For most people a strong consistent signal is more important than absolute speed. Most people want consistent web browsing and streaming on their remote devices. I absolutely never move gigantic files from one computer to and, and if I did want to do that a usb drive would be my method of choice. I use an Orbi mesh system and get at least 100 Mbps everywhere, and that is just fine. I have connected one computer directly with Ethernet and get 500 Mbps and can't tell the difference between 500 Mbps and 200 Mbps that I get over WiFi in that location
hi; thanks for the ellaborate review. I have a few questions with your permission regarding ethernet backhauling: if I understand currectly I can hook up all 3 decos with ehternet connection in order to improve covarage and avoid bunny hopping. what I am missing is the technique of how to achieve it. I noticed form the vid that there are 2 ethernet ports on each deco, I assume one is "in" and one is "out". in order to achieve the backhauling MUST I "chain" the 3 decos such that I create a single phycial continuation of the same "line" through out the 3 decos? or... can I put a 1gig port switch after the first main deco (connected to its "out" port) and use 2 seperate physical lines, from to different ports on the switch, to the 2 remaining decos? whould that still function as a complete backhaul you reffered to? thanks! (image of what I meant here: i.ibb.co/X5G1fTg/Untitled.jpg)
I’ve got the one that’s furthest away connected through a pair of mains adapters (power line). All three seem to be a big improvement on the past system.. the upstairs bathroom was always a dead zone issue.
No. Wireless is still significantly slower than the wired. The idea of the mesh is to be able to walk around with the devices and get wi-fi from the same SSID and basically from the same ID, it acts like a wireless version of a network switch.
Yes, the main idea of using mesh is to get rid of the wires, but, on the other hand, the throughput will be lower than using cables to connect each device.
@@LeonardLeon the protocol that handles this situation, where you can walk around without the need to change your wifi it's called roaming, it's almost the same technology used on the cellphone networks. you can have a mesh network without roaming, but you can't have a network with roaming without the mesh technology
Honestly just use used routers with ddwrt and pfsense. It's one of the situations where the DiY product is much better than commercial and enterprise product.
My house is 1,076 sq ft (100 m2) x 2 floors. Internet package from ISP = 30 mbps. Which one is suitable for me to buy, 2 x Deco E4 or 2 x Deco M4? Thank you 🙏
Since you're using them hardwired they're basically just acting as glorified access points. It is nice that you can use them as a mesh system as well too though
People mesh wifi is Just aps talking to each other. Always have a wired backbone..mesh Doest mean u dont need cables IT Just means u can Walk in between the aps without dropping connection
I am considering this system and I have a question. The configuration will be such that the main unit will be at one end of the house and the two satellites will be in a line towards the other end of the house. I can connect the two satellites together for ethernet backhaul, but I cannot connect either of them to the main unit. Would this configuration work and improve throughput at the far end of the house?
Excellent video! I didn't know this about the antivirus, since I want to install something like this for my parents and having an integrated antivirus software could be useful. Can you recommend any other cheaper system? They will be connected with ethernet. Another thing, is there a local webserver speedtest? For example, something I could install on my laptop, connect it through lan to the router and then use it as you did on my phone?
Very good. I'm just getting into this mesh system and my knowledge is limited. I just want to be able to have wifi within my house. One satellite upstairs (maybe 40 feet away from my main ISP) and another satellite in my TV room (maybe 50 feet away from my main ISP in my office) . All I run currently is our smart TV, a Nest outdoor camera, 2 iPhones and a laptop plus people who visit. Will this package work for us? Thanks for any reply
I don't know I am using this. I don't disagree about speed and range. But stability is big issue. What I meant is ip conflicts each and every time I get this. I need to reboot when am near second pack router to get ip address assigned to my machine which makes its quite frustrating. I had to this evertime when my system gets locked down or when I shut down my system or power goes off.
Hello, I have an internet connection of 2200Mbps, but with this TPlink deco E4, is capped to 100 Mbps, even if a use a LAN cable, do you have some recommendation?
I have these set up as access points and I use the Ethernet port to connect wired devices. Copying around 200GB of MP4 files between my desktop and server I am getting around 60MB/s data transfer rate. I was using a powerline set up before and I could only get around 6MB/s so a 10x transfer rate is great. It saves me having to run a LAN cable between the floors. It also fixed the poor Wi/Fi with the Virgin Media hub.
Hi, I followed your video and i bought the M4. set up was super easy. I have a question though: why the broadband from my internet provider (located in the garage) manages to reach peaks of 300-400 MBS and my Deco M4 (connected with wire) does only reach 70-90 mbs?
Does anybody knows, can You wire all Decos to router individually? Also, can You connect something like a TV or a console to the LAN port 2 of the Deco, if the router is connected to port 1?
so technically this is just like a wifi extender that cuts down your main wifi speed? I was going to upgrade from a tplink wifi extender and it cuts my 100mbps to 40-50mbps. so this would be the same if it wasn’t wired??
I have a problem with this product after its installation, the wifi after a short time is disconnected, this is tedious because it happens very often and I don't know how to fix it. Could you tell me where I am failing if the installation is correct?
if my internet speed in BFI is tops at 50 mgb speed, doing it without the cord will i even see a lower speed, will it stay maxed out for what i can do or possibly will it be lowered a similar % you had or since your lowest speed is still almost 3 times faster then i can get?
Hello BMB can you recommend a mesh system ...… I only have internet access point in my downstairs study ,,,,, but I want internet access by WiFi on the second floor on my property are there any mesh systems on the market that would work wirelessly upstairs
Do you ever use wifi devices? It extends your wifi range/strength, essentially. If you never utilize wifi, either for phones, tablets, laptops, smart house or otherwise, then no, you really don't need to worry about it.
Can I assign different SSID for 2.4 and 5 ghz? I have a gaming laptop and I want it to connect on 5ghz so that all other devices in my home remain at 2.4 ghz
No surprises here when you connect them with a network cable. So you have cables all over the place anyway. What you want is NO cables and a descent backhaul communication between nodes. That would have been a good test and now this review is a joke.
Let me rephrase your remark, YOU want no cables and a descent backhaul communication between nodes. I want a good mesh system (for a small price) that makes use of my existing network cables, and for my situation this seems to be the right product. Thanks for the good video and nice testing, not depending on internet tests or speeds made it more accurate imo
@@hermanstokbrood please enlighten me Let me help you Deco M9 Plus -> wifi backhaul Deco P9 -> AV1000 Powerline backhaul Deco M4/S4 AC1200 -> Ethernet Backhaul Deco M5/M1300 AC1300-> Ethernet Backhaul ... pick your set wisely What is a Mesh set? -> www.tp-link.com/us/mesh-wifi/ I need 1 network that easily switches from one node to the other making use of my ethernet backhaul
depends on user, if u need wifi backhoul, u need put more money from your pocket, those who dont need it, can hapilly save some (well considering that they invested in hardwiring house,...)
This one has 128mb sdram, the M5 and M9 have 256mb sdram. Does this create any slowdowns when we have many devices connected? How does the latency compare between m4, m5, m9 plus? I'm not gonna be able to use the antivirus function because it's gonna be setup in access point mode, and there will be Ethernet backhaul between them, but if m4 is laggier because of the less ram (or a slower processor) then it's a problem for me. Also, what happens if I try to connect 101 devices?
The internet speedtest he's using ist just the speedtest.net app or the website. The internal speedtest via html5 in the browser, to test network performance is via an docker image, idk if there is an alternative to this, or an standalone installer. The other app he uses is called wifi sweetspot, but that's just for ios at least as I know, maybe I'm wrong with that. Hope I could help.
The reason why 2nd M4 got 261 Mbps as speed when it is connected wirelessly to the main unit is that it is in bridge mode "repeater" so it lost 50% of the main speed from the main unit, and the 3rd one connected to the 2nd unit also wirelessly so again in bridge mode "repeater" so you lose 50% of your speed from the 2nd unit and you end up with the 126Mbps.
Yeah how to solve that. I’m looking to buying one but im concerned that I can’t wire all of them with an Eithernet cable to the modem , I have to use them wirelessly, with the exception of the first one of course.
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2:52 - This is not true. It does have a web UI that you can log into if you wanted.
3:30 - This is also not true. It does have the built in AV packet inspection.
"wifi is heavier than air" .... You actually got me. It made me immediately think about all my extenders' locations.
I'm in I.T. (Security, not Networking) and when he said that I was like "really?! I had no clue"..then he said he was joking..DOH! He definitely has a great poker face! lol
Wifi Signals do travel downwards better than upwards, so the higher the modem the better wifi signal/speed you can get on the same level where the router is located.
Gravity pull the WiFi signals down, that’s why malls and Starbucks install their WiFi on the ceiling
Jon Ting actually no, it’s more for direct signal without passing through walls or other interference
Ours is a two-story house and I followed your example and connected the 3 Decos via a backhaul. The wifi speed test results went from the 100s to the 500s. Thanks for the great tip.
7:24 Thank you!!! This is what I've been looking for in a review. Very technical overall, searched for TP-Link mesh system reviews and luckily you had one! Already a subscriber from your Plex related content.
I have gigabit broadband, and I have these plugged directly into the modem via ethernet (included cable) and I'm getting 40mbps down right next to the pod. Not good at all
Sorry to ask but how good is this? I own a 130mb fiber connection which by using a regular TP-Link AC750 Universal Dual Band Range Extender gets around 30-50 Mbps to the Living Room. The distance of the Living Room from the VM Router is roughly 9-13m. (On Ground Level while the Router is on Level 1) Do you think a system like this will give me at least 100mpb at that point or will i still have an issue with it?
I had a bad experience with these last week and they went back to the supplier after a few days. I upgraded the firmware immediately after setting them up and they looked fine at first. However despite the fact that I'd connected the second unit via Ethernet backhaul (after setting them all up wirelessly) they kept going from "Strong signal" to "Disconnected". The second unit (not the one furthest from the base) kept flashing a red light. They did this several times and, despite there being three of them, proved much less reliable than the two Google Wifi units they were to replace. I'm now back to Google Wifi. Yes, the Google units devices disconnect occasionally when I go to the limits of the wireless signal, but the units don't disconnect from each other, so they do fulfil the basic function of a mesh system.
Thanks for the review. This was incredibly helpful. Even with 3 nodes I would gain 16x the speed I currently have, so I'm happy with that. Walmart seems to have a 2 pack for less money if anyone is interested. Not everyone needs a 3rd unit, so for $90, I'd say its a great deal!
I bought this the other day and have it installed in a 3200sq/ft home with three levels plus basement. I have four kids plus me and a tenant on the mesh. The master deco is installed in the middle of the home 2nd flr and of course ethernet wired to my wifi router. The 2nd deco is ethernet attached to wifi router and installed on main floor near front of home. The third unit is installed in first flr dining room area near rear of home not ethernet attached so relies on the wifi uplink to the master deco on 2nd flr. Last scan shows nearly 40 devices including amazon sticks, 6 wyze cams, laptops, chromebooks, thermostats smartphones, xbox’s etc. My Internet is FIOS 100Mbps pkg. This appears to be a robust system even for the wifi clients connecting through the third non ethernet attached deco. I will know more once Kids return to remote learning and 3-5 zoom and webex sessions. I had previously been running 2 wifi routers on opposite ends of the house in bridge mode but the performance was perceptibly less than the new deco mesh. Most likely due to the MU-MIMO feature of the newer unit. Overall very happy so far.
Good Video, I was hoping you showed more of the actual connection. Eg. from your modem/router to the first TP link.
First Ethernet backhaul review I saw one this unit you should advertise this on title more people will come here thanks for the video!
Agree...curious if they can all be connected through a switch
+1 for mentioning the need for a web-based setup and not just a mobile setup. same for google home. its needed.
8:00 - Over 100MBps, both ways, isn't bad. Lol. And it's doing all this with no wires. That is crazy good. Lol. This is also highly dependent with where you have each of the units placed.
I set some up yesterday and they got near the same speeds they would get when wired up but, they were also probably placed better to keep that connection speed high.
How WiFi speed do you pay for and what are the speed you get and also what is your Internet provider I’m in the market I’m just looking at all my options
Mine have been working fantastic. I have MoCa 2.0 ethernet back haul. They added management capabilities with the last firmware / app updates. With fast roaming / 5 GHZ I'm getting 425 Mbps on my iPhone XS Max.
About your Complain with the low speed via Wifi mode: Its because they basically act like Wifi Repeaters when the connect to each other. Because of that Bandwith between each "Hop" is cut in half, like with a repeater, thats just the Nature of Wifi. Hope its understandable. So there is nothing you (or TPLink) can do about that, except for better Chipset with overall higher throughput which then also gets cut in half again. Thats just for clarification, not that i think u dont know that, but if thats the case, then now u do lol. Have a nice Day Jason and as always --> Nice Video :)
the major drop on the wifi backhaul is because the m4 deco's are only dual band, so instead of a third dedicated 5ghz backhaul like the m9 and orbi and google wifi and various other mesh wifi systems, it's sharing the 5ghz network with all the devices connected to it, which shows the issue
Hello,im planning to buy S4 or x20 or x55,but my internet speed is only 50mbps,which one do i need? Will be S4 enough to get my maximum speed 50mbps?
I have dead zones so I'm thinking about buying this (2 packs) as access points connected to my existing router through a lan cable. Even tho the third one drops to 120 ish, its incredibly fast. 100 mbps is very fast considering you only need like 7 to 10 mbps to stream 1080p comfortably
This is the first video I seen talking about it was no good without it being connected to the Ethernets.
Yeah...Everyother reviewer just ignores it.
I'm so glad i watched this before spending almost 200 dollars on it
Yes using the wifi back haul slows things down obviously.
But if you don't have an ehtenet cable in that corner of your house the choice would be: slow internet or no internet at all. Still an easy choice right? But if ultimate speed without ethernet is what you're after you probably would buy the Deco M9 anyway with its dedicated 5GHz back haul capabilities.
i have this same mesh system and plugged the second deco into the first one using an ethernet cable and i’m still getting the same speeds 100/20 and i subscribe to 400/20 i don’t understand how you got faster speeds? any help would be appreciated
Might be the modem which can't support the speed
did you figure this out?
@@tauntonlad its not increasing your internet speed. It just extends your wifi signal without disconnecting.
@@tauntonlad oh lol, they must be dumb then.
@@tauntonlad do u think the mesh wifi can go pass through walls?my room and my sister room just side each....I'm planning to buy those but also considering of how strong TP-Link M4.The main question is,Can the mesh M4 go pass through the walls?or is it going to slow down the signal?
got 3 m4 in my house all connected wired and its runs full speed i love them!
Do u have each deco connected to each other or are they individually connect to to the router or thru a switch.
@@josephlopano3631 I have 3 M4 deco connected each of them to my modem. It is so fast!!
We have 3 of those in our home and use them as accespoint. They are really great!!!
Bit confused, you said 126mbps was the maximum speed when connecting wireless to the 3rd device, then did a walkaround with sweetspot and averaged 300?
I currently have the M5 and it's working very well but I plan to switch it from router mode to AP mode with ethernet backhaul. Reason is I miss my Ubiquiti Security Gateway and all its advanced features with usable reports like which device is visiting which websites and how much data was used by each individial device per day, week or month.
The thing that slows it down is its lack of a third band dedicated to backhaul. Thats why the Orbi is so fast. It has a dedicated wireless backhaul that works great.
also price is double
What’s another mesh brand/model that doesn’t drop speed when on bunny hope mode? (I dont have ethernet throughout the house)
Interesting review! If you connect the second and third units wirelessly is there a huge increase in ping (latency)?
Yes of course, because he said wifi is heavier than air, so you'll need to get humidifiers for the rooms to stabilize the pressure. Once you reach optimum humidity, the wireless connections perform ethernetic.
Thanks for doing this review. I will have to check out other affordable mesh system. I can only wire one of them and the other two would have to bunny hop to each other. My other thought is what other loss would happen when you run the cat5 20 - 30 feet from the main deco.
I currently just using one since last week, it works like a charm.
Wondering if someone who already has these, has some insight in regards to my question.
My Router is downstairs, I would be using the main Deco here w/ ethernet (to establish the network), the next Deco would be going into my Office/main room and I'm wondering if I set-up the deco in my office, would I be able to use Ethernet to establish that connection? I tend to avoid using Wireless if I can.
I'm a few years late but have you noticed whether speed on the 5 ghz band drops considerably when pods are connected with Ethernet cable?
I have 5 of these around the house, speed is just as good as it is from the router.
Good Content! What if you connnect this to a fast TP-Link AC Router? Will that Router be part of the mesh assuming that you use the same AP name?
Or will the Router act as a wifi range extender (different MAC id) and not part of the Mesh? TIA! 😊
Yes... lets connect them all by running cables lmao.
99% of people want to avoid this
you dont have cables running through your walls?
AyoMa no lol 😂 do you
@@SpicyBoyWithACherry I wish. My house predates the internet.... Although, now you mention it, I wonder would powerline connectors work in this case to provice the Ethernet backhole...
That's why this review is a joke. The M4's don't have a dedicated backhaul. So nodes are sharing bandwidth between each other. The M4's are great value for money but if you want speed without cables buy something a bit more expensive with dedicated backhaul.
@@supereliptic Powerline has limitations.
I am sorry but I need to make something clear. Should I need to connect them to each other like from one to two and two to three via cable or all seperated cable to main modem or connect to same switch is fine to get a minimum lose?
Thanks in advance
Can i use the Deco M4 mesh system to make the signal better for the TP-Link Tapo C420S2 WLAN cameras?
My C5400 wifi started going out (it will still broadcast my network but I cannot connect to the wifi; rebooting would temporarily solve the problem; this also happened to my previous router). I was going to buy a pair of Wireless Access Points but then I ran into these Deco M4s on a sale page in my e-mail. I checked them out and the 3-pack would be less expensive than the 2 WAPs I was going to buy. I liked the one SSID for both 2.4Ghz and 5.0Ghz albeit you cannot choose which one you are on (you could on the C5400). For my house, coverage seems great, through put is good (two of the Decos are ethernet backhauled, the 3rd is not), and I'm pretty happy with them thus far. Time will tell.
So this will work with an existing modem/router unit, right? Cause I plan to use them only as access points, not routers themselves. Thanks!
Thanks for the review. I'd like to have a question. I have a TP link Archer C2 router, and I'm struggling with the range (mainly the 5GHz one). can I just simply connect one of these Deco devices via cable to my router to extend the range and still work as a mesh so they make a single network with automatic switching? Thanks for the answer in advance.
No, you can't do that. You can add APs and give them the same SSID but switching between them will be the issue. The roaming features are really nice.
Question I'm looking at the Orbi satellite, mesh wifi dual band 5g Vs.
the Google Mesh AC1200 Whole-Home WiFi System 3-Pack which overall do
you think would work better in a old double wide mobile home with 3
bedrooms looking for your reply, thanks for the great video as
well,Kraigalso I can get the TP-link Deco S-4 3-pack for 114.00 on amazon to throw that into the mix as well.
does the system is build a wifi router, that means i can remove the router that came with the modem and substitute with the TP-link?
or using the actual router will be better, can you please guide me with that?
Between Deco M4 and Deco S4(new version), which one do you recommend? price difference is $10 (M4 being lesser).
sounds like it's a good choice for me
I live in a two storey house, i have already got an Ethernet cable from main router on ground floor connected directly to my desktop on 1st floor.
I have also got another ethernet cable from main router to living room, I can just get a 2 pack, setup deco#1 on ground floor living room, then 2nd deco next to my desktop, connect the ethernet cable from main router to deco #2 then a short ethernet cable from deco#2 to my desktop (since deco has 2 ports, for best connection)
Thanks for mentioning whether or not there was Ethernet backhaul
ghiagoo - War Robots I k man... It took me hours to find out that the Orbi has it... not many reviewers mention it.
Thinking about picking this up. But wondering what speeds I would get because my modem is on the second floor of my house right in the middle and thinking of having the other decos on the first floor but one on each side of the house so there would be no hopping from one to another to another, just one talks to the main one in the middle.
Thx for the vid mate, very insightful
Does the speed gets reduced to half of the original speed provided by ISP
Just an FYI, they do allow you to connect via a web portal to get into settings. I have the Deco M5 and they are beyond awesome, Google WIFI sux ass. And pretty much all Mesh systems will have the drop in speed as you 'bunny hop'. The only ones that won't are setups with dedicated wireless backhauls.
Will the ethernet backhaul work if you connect each of them via ethernet on a switch ?
It's so irritating that some people think that when they have speeds of 400+ mbps that its not enough.
yeah. my internet speed is 25 mbps is ok for me. from philippines.
Its not when you are paying for certain speeds.
If you're paying for 1 gbps internet and you're only getting 400mbps then it's clearly not enough
Do we need to have a modem if the incoming ISP line is a cat6 RJ 45 line? Or any of the RJ45 terminals in these routers have a direct WLAN input capability built in where i can ditch the modem altogether?
Great devices. They really work well at my house.
Good review - what's the HTML5 speedtest app you used? Can't find it on the Appstore. Thx
YES you can do it, the way I did it !! In my 3 floors multihouse, I have a router and an Tp-link access point, for all over coverage, but it had a few coverage holes. So I bought yesterday 2 pairs (4pieces) of these Deco M4 (the m4's is gigabit transfer) and attach one of them at the router at center of building in 2nd floor and another piece of it at bedrooms area and synchronized succesfully. Then I put at below floor 1 at center area and another at bedrooms, who both were synchronized automatically to the above "intranet mesh" . DO NOT FORGET when the installation application asks for area coverage, to choose 1 OR 2 floors.. This probably changes the transmitting force !! Results ?? ... All the building is NOW fully covered conveniently !! As for the networks?? I NOW have 2 networks 2,4 and 5Ghz directly from the router, and one (1) network named by me transmitting by the 4 boxes of Deco M4... and finally another network, coming from the old Tp-link access point !! Thinking that the OLD system isn't necessary anymore, I removed that OLD access point and the networks remained 3 now and so if I then close the router Wi-Fi transmit of the router, I will then have only, the one network, that is made up by the TP-Link Deco M4 Whole Home Mesh WiFi System (4 pieces in total) and named by me. Finally am happy that I bought them, cause they proved they really work !! I hope I will work for you also...
For most people a strong consistent signal is more important than absolute speed. Most people want consistent web browsing and streaming on their remote devices. I absolutely never move gigantic files from one computer to and, and if I did want to do that a usb drive would be my method of choice. I use an Orbi mesh system and get at least 100 Mbps everywhere, and that is just fine. I have connected one computer directly with Ethernet and get 500 Mbps and can't tell the difference between 500 Mbps and 200 Mbps that I get over WiFi in that location
hi; thanks for the ellaborate review. I have a few questions with your permission regarding ethernet backhauling:
if I understand currectly I can hook up all 3 decos with ehternet connection in order to improve covarage and avoid bunny hopping. what I am missing is the technique of how to achieve it. I noticed form the vid that there are 2 ethernet ports on each deco, I assume one is "in" and one is "out". in order to achieve the backhauling MUST I "chain" the 3 decos such that I create a single phycial continuation of the same "line" through out the 3 decos? or...
can I put a 1gig port switch after the first main deco (connected to its "out" port) and use 2 seperate physical lines, from to different ports on the switch, to the 2 remaining decos? whould that still function as a complete backhaul you reffered to? thanks! (image of what I meant here: i.ibb.co/X5G1fTg/Untitled.jpg)
Guy Katz I have the same question
I daisy chained mine. Seems to be working well.
I’ve got the one that’s furthest away connected through a pair of mains adapters (power line). All three seem to be a big improvement on the past system.. the upstairs bathroom was always a dead zone issue.
Good question
Isnt the main idea of mesh is the use of wireless instead of wired without dropping speed
No. Wireless is still significantly slower than the wired. The idea of the mesh is to be able to walk around with the devices and get wi-fi from the same SSID and basically from the same ID, it acts like a wireless version of a network switch.
Yes, the main idea of using mesh is to get rid of the wires, but, on the other hand, the throughput will be lower than using cables to connect each device.
@@LeonardLeon the protocol that handles this situation, where you can walk around without the need to change your wifi it's called roaming, it's almost the same technology used on the cellphone networks. you can have a mesh network without roaming, but you can't have a network with roaming without the mesh technology
You can, buy a Tri-band mesh network, that has a dedicated band to talk to the other nodes, but it will cost you at least 300+
Honestly just use used routers with ddwrt and pfsense. It's one of the situations where the DiY product is much better than commercial and enterprise product.
Got any recommendations?
My house is 1,076 sq ft (100 m2) x 2 floors. Internet package from ISP = 30 mbps. Which one is suitable for me to buy, 2 x Deco E4 or 2 x Deco M4?
Thank you 🙏
Since you're using them hardwired they're basically just acting as glorified access points. It is nice that you can use them as a mesh system as well too though
Yea it seems pointless and mesh system are just glorified repeaters.
People mesh wifi is Just aps talking to each other. Always have a wired backbone..mesh Doest mean u dont need cables IT Just means u can Walk in between the aps without dropping connection
I am considering this system and I have a question. The configuration will be such that the main unit will be at one end of the house and the two satellites will be in a line towards the other end of the house. I can connect the two satellites together for ethernet backhaul, but I cannot connect either of them to the main unit. Would this configuration work and improve throughput at the far end of the house?
Excellent video! I didn't know this about the antivirus, since I want to install something like this for my parents and having an integrated antivirus software could be useful. Can you recommend any other cheaper system? They will be connected with ethernet.
Another thing, is there a local webserver speedtest? For example, something I could install on my laptop, connect it through lan to the router and then use it as you did on my phone?
I'd suggest iperf for computers.
Very good. I'm just getting into this mesh system and my knowledge is limited. I just want to be able to have wifi within my house. One satellite upstairs (maybe 40 feet away from my main ISP) and another satellite in my TV room (maybe 50 feet away from my main ISP in my office) . All I run currently is our smart TV, a Nest outdoor camera, 2 iPhones and a laptop plus people who visit. Will this package work for us? Thanks for any reply
Bought it and installed it. Works great throughout the 4500 sq ft house. Runs a Nest outdoor camera very well. And my smart tv runs so much better.
I don't know I am using this. I don't disagree about speed and range. But stability is big issue. What I meant is ip conflicts each and every time I get this. I need to reboot when am near second pack router to get ip address assigned to my machine which makes its quite frustrating. I had to this evertime when my system gets locked down or when I shut down my system or power goes off.
Great video. How do you compare the roaming vs non 802.11k/v/r mesh systems?
Hello, I have an internet connection of 2200Mbps, but with this TPlink deco E4, is capped to 100 Mbps, even if a use a LAN cable, do you have some recommendation?
perfect video, just what I wanted to know, thank you!
I have the m4 set. They're pretty okay.
Always wire your Hotspots.
can you please share which docker you used? I like to test my new m5.
Did you find the answer?
I have a 1 gigabit line. Will the wired speed be enough for that? Can’t really find the troughput speed but I assume it’s fine.
I have these set up as access points and I use the Ethernet port to connect wired devices.
Copying around 200GB of MP4 files between my desktop and server I am getting around 60MB/s data transfer rate.
I was using a powerline set up before and I could only get around 6MB/s so a 10x transfer rate is great.
It saves me having to run a LAN cable between the floors.
It also fixed the poor Wi/Fi with the Virgin Media hub.
Can the Ethernet backhaul be connected to a network switch?
is it possible to use more then 3 devices?
Hi, I followed your video and i bought the M4. set up was super easy. I have a question though: why the broadband from my internet provider (located in the garage) manages to reach peaks of 300-400 MBS and my Deco M4 (connected with wire) does only reach 70-90 mbs?
Hello. I have the same problem. Can´t find any info about that ....
@@pmfadri i am told the cable in my house was split up into multiple sockets hence the slower speed.
@@SalvatoreVassallo1977 I have the E4, not the M4. But i yhink you should get more mbs
@@pmfadri i know but its the cable in the walls that have been split...
Does anybody knows, can You wire all Decos to router individually? Also, can You connect something like a TV or a console to the LAN port 2 of the Deco, if the router is connected to port 1?
If the main connected unit is in between the two wirelessly connected units, does this eliminate the double hop and the additional speed cut?
How is it conpared to your main router?
Can you buy additional extenders?
so technically this is just like a wifi extender that cuts down your main wifi speed? I was going to upgrade from a tplink wifi extender and it cuts my 100mbps to 40-50mbps. so this would be the same if it wasn’t wired??
Do you recommend it over the Tenda Nova MW6?
I have a problem with this product after its installation, the wifi after a short time is disconnected, this is tedious because it happens very often and I don't know how to fix it. Could you tell me where I am failing if the installation is correct?
if my internet speed in BFI is tops at 50 mgb speed, doing it without the cord will i even see a lower speed, will it stay maxed out for what i can do or possibly will it be lowered a similar % you had or since your lowest speed is still almost 3 times faster then i can get?
Huawei WI-FI Mesh WS5800, or TP-Link Deco M4? Technical parameters in favor of Huawei ...
do ihave to use all of them i just want to use 1
Can you use a VPN on this router, and does the VPN also work on the guest network?
Who made it for 360p club? #oops
me me me! #FIRST!
Bin ebenfalls hier, grüße aus Deutschland (greetings from Germany)
Meee!!!
lol
did you get demonetized?
Hello BMB can you recommend a mesh system ...… I only have internet access point in my downstairs study ,,,,, but I want internet access by WiFi on the second floor on my property
are there any mesh systems on the market that would work wirelessly upstairs
What's your plan?
is blue iris any good ?
If I can wire the whole of my house, why would I need a mesh system?
Do you ever use wifi devices? It extends your wifi range/strength, essentially. If you never utilize wifi, either for phones, tablets, laptops, smart house or otherwise, then no, you really don't need to worry about it.
Because we HATE cables !!! :))) no really ... big pet peeve
Good luck plugging it in your phone
Can I assign different SSID for 2.4 and 5 ghz? I have a gaming laptop and I want it to connect on 5ghz so that all other devices in my home remain at 2.4 ghz
Can the back haul go through a switch?
For the size. Was it a big banana or small banana? 🍌 😂👍
Hi , is this linux based html5 server and can you give more info about it ? Thank you.
No surprises here when you connect them with a network cable. So you have cables all over the place anyway.
What you want is NO cables and a descent backhaul communication between nodes. That would have been a good test and now this review is a joke.
Let me rephrase your remark, YOU want no cables and a descent backhaul communication between nodes.
I want a good mesh system (for a small price) that makes use of my existing network cables, and for my situation this seems to be the right product. Thanks for the good video and nice testing, not depending on internet tests or speeds made it more accurate imo
@@bram1831 I think you don't get why people purchase a meshset in general. If you already have cables there are cheaper and better solutions.
@@hermanstokbrood please enlighten me
Let me help you
Deco M9 Plus -> wifi backhaul
Deco P9 -> AV1000
Powerline backhaul
Deco M4/S4 AC1200 -> Ethernet Backhaul
Deco M5/M1300 AC1300-> Ethernet Backhaul
...
pick your set wisely
What is a Mesh set? -> www.tp-link.com/us/mesh-wifi/
I need 1 network that easily switches from one node to the other making use of my ethernet backhaul
depends on user, if u need wifi backhoul, u need put more money from your pocket, those who dont need it, can hapilly save some (well considering that they invested in hardwiring house,...)
This one has 128mb sdram, the M5 and M9 have 256mb sdram. Does this create any slowdowns when we have many devices connected? How does the latency compare between m4, m5, m9 plus? I'm not gonna be able to use the antivirus function because it's gonna be setup in access point mode, and there will be Ethernet backhaul between them, but if m4 is laggier because of the less ram (or a slower processor) then it's a problem for me. Also, what happens if I try to connect 101 devices?
Do I need an extra modem to use mesh system?
Will you be doing a review on the Deco P9 model anytime?
What's the name of that speed test you were using? Does it come in a pkg install?
The internet speedtest he's using ist just the speedtest.net app or the website. The internal speedtest via html5 in the browser, to test network performance is via an docker image, idk if there is an alternative to this, or an standalone installer. The other app he uses is called wifi sweetspot, but that's just for ios at least as I know, maybe I'm wrong with that. Hope I could help.
Should I get the m4 or m5?
The reason why 2nd M4 got 261 Mbps as speed when it is connected wirelessly to the main unit is that it is in bridge mode "repeater" so it lost 50% of the main speed from the main unit, and the 3rd one connected to the 2nd unit also wirelessly so again in bridge mode "repeater" so you lose 50% of your speed from the 2nd unit and you end up with the 126Mbps.
Hi, what mode should you use for wireless to NOT lose download speed? Thanks
Yeah how to solve that.
I’m looking to buying one but im concerned that I can’t wire all of them with an Eithernet cable to the modem , I have to use them wirelessly, with the exception of the first one of course.