Thank you for the input ( and the output thereof) and the information. Bought a UQ protector and top cover due to this. The UQ Protector is priceless and makes a whole difference. Have made myself a small elastic from the head ends continuous loop, and it serves a nice purpose.
A friend also added elastic to my UQP ends after I ripped it due to lack of strain relief. I may still mod the UQP to zip to itself over the top of the ridgeline to act as a "lazy slug tube" containing all quilts, sleep clothes, etc for fast cramming into pack and redeployment.
I decided to pack setup differently. DDhammock makes a "sleeve". This is a cca 10cm sleeve in diameter, which stays at one end of my hammock till I want to packit. Then I pull it from one end to another like a sock and all my setup is covered in it. It doesn't take underquilt and sleeping bag, however all the rest including underquilt protector is there. This "sock" then packed in seatosummit compression sack. Same sleeve I use to pack my tarp. Super easy and quick setup. Basically you tie to the tree just a thin tube (sock), just after that you strip the sleeve. Another point to Todd video. I was not happy with hiding stuff in the underquilt protector. I discovered a "hammock for stuff" - again from DDhammock. Small and simple piece of cloth tied to ends of my hammock, situated just below the underquilt. It takes 25kgs, so easily you fit there your shoes, even whole bag. You reach it easily from hammock if needed. Tested yesterday (winter, freezing).
Some great ideas here! Thanks for sharing them. I'm going to try the foot end higher like that next time I'm out - makes sense with what you said about it. How do you like the Trekking Treez? I've been eyeing them up. How's the fidget factor with them?
I make the Treez with my business partner, so am biased. Of the 3 stands we make, they are the most fiddly, and require practice. But I won't hike without them if there's any question of suitable trees and spacing: I have no go-to-ground option. I wrote up my PCT experience with them on the Tensa Outdoor blog in 3 articles.
Great tips! Thank you for sharing. I also think about the enhanchment request for the underquilt protector, so you can zip the whole setup in one package, great thinking. Warbonnet listen … smarter and the best, can be even smarter, something for Gen 3 ?
Check www.tensaoutdoor.com/tensa-trekking-treez-on-the-pacific-crest-trail/?v=7516fd43adaa. There’s instructional video on the product page, and print docs. I will revise docs with new insights gleaned on trip after hike.
Great on the trail info more people should do this because its the little things ye forget when your home. . I've been dreaming of this hammock 😅 one day..
Have you measured the temperature in the space between the UQP and the UQ? I’m having a hard time believing that space stays above freezing when the temperature is
I haven’t. You are correct that it’s not a foolproof way to keep above freezing, but does help some. I did note some crystals forming in water bottle kept there on a cold night (low unknown), while inch of water left outside in pot was frozen solid. Of course, putting between hammock and UQ would be more reliable, but I find that too much stashed there can lead to draftiness.
Hello, this night no wind, high humidity. Warbonnet XLC DD, bugnet, thermarest mattress with alu inside, tailor made UQ 14F, Warmpeace Wiking 600 sleeping bag. After 4hours (just to make heat flow stable), 33,6F at the botton of the UQP (not touching ground), 43,9F at the ridge line inside bugnet, 33,1F at the shockcord, 31,5F 6feet far from hammock same height as shockcord measurement had. Always cca 10min waiting to stabilize sensor temperature. Measured by Garmin Tempe sensor. So there is a difference between outer temperature and inside the UQP. However wind can wipe out any difference, on other side, my strong insulation below me could stop any heat radiation down. My idea behind purchasing warbonnet UQP was to stop wind flowing between hammock and UQ and hide my stuff in case I have to leave my place for a moment and enviroment is not "friendly". Small hammock for stuff just below UQ do the job to hide stuff and protect it against wind and rain, wet socks lay at the UQ to dry during night.
I like my feet up but I have bad circulation as I'm pretty lanky so just barely above my head is perfect... also just got my xlc in the mail I still don't have and underquilt and I know wind really sucks the heat out of me
You should be able to connect your protector zipper to your bug net zipper and sort of leave the hammock and Wookiee itself cocooned freely inside that “shell”
Also the UQP if connected to itself would be closer to a snug stuffable tube with quilts inside, while the UQP attached direct to bugnet remains a very loose package liable to tangling when stuffing.
Tip: Tie a loop on the the end of your continous loop so that you can easily pull the becket hitch out and save your hands.ua-cam.com/video/qnwqPPquPRs/v-deo.html
Thank you. I was vaguely aware of this tip, but insufficiently motivated. I just tied an overhand knot in the continuous loops themselves, shortening them for even more flexibility hanging in tight spots, and the knot against the Becket functions as advertised to make untying easy.
Acknowledged. I do not cook in camp, only for lunch underway. Also I avoid camping in established sites where critters are habituated. Finally, had bear canister. These absolutely savage mosquitoes would make you either eat in hammock or skip eating altogether.
I own snakeskins. I use a mesh one for my tarp only. As developed by Hennessy, a hammock snakeskin contains only the hammock, not quilts and bedclothes. There are products described as lazy slug tubes that contain all. I think Anaconda is a new trademark for same. I want my underquilt protector/gear sling to convert to a lazy slug tube. I don't want to carry a separate lazy slug tube when the UQP is so close to being redundant.
Excellent video! Thank you for pointing out the protective cover solution.
Great video! Lots of good info. Especially the use of the wind protector as storage. Or even the Underquilt as storage. Hadn’t thought of that.
Thank you for the input ( and the output thereof) and the information. Bought a UQ protector and top cover due to this. The UQ Protector is priceless and makes a whole difference. Have made myself a small elastic from the head ends continuous loop, and it serves a nice purpose.
A friend also added elastic to my UQP ends after I ripped it due to lack of strain relief. I may still mod the UQP to zip to itself over the top of the ridgeline to act as a "lazy slug tube" containing all quilts, sleep clothes, etc for fast cramming into pack and redeployment.
Some great ideas here! Love the layering with the quilt protector and the UQ and I definitely need to try that chair mode!
Great demo, beautiful area!
Wonderful tips here! Thank you for the great video
I like the idea of having the feet up. Its like kicking up a lazy chair and the circulation is a great benefit as well.
I decided to pack setup differently. DDhammock makes a "sleeve". This is a cca 10cm sleeve in diameter, which stays at one end of my hammock till I want to packit. Then I pull it from one end to another like a sock and all my setup is covered in it. It doesn't take underquilt and sleeping bag, however all the rest including underquilt protector is there. This "sock" then packed in seatosummit compression sack. Same sleeve I use to pack my tarp. Super easy and quick setup. Basically you tie to the tree just a thin tube (sock), just after that you strip the sleeve. Another point to Todd video. I was not happy with hiding stuff in the underquilt protector. I discovered a "hammock for stuff" - again from DDhammock. Small and simple piece of cloth tied to ends of my hammock, situated just below the underquilt. It takes 25kgs, so easily you fit there your shoes, even whole bag. You reach it easily from hammock if needed. Tested yesterday (winter, freezing).
Some great ideas here! Thanks for sharing them. I'm going to try the foot end higher like that next time I'm out - makes sense with what you said about it. How do you like the Trekking Treez? I've been eyeing them up. How's the fidget factor with them?
I make the Treez with my business partner, so am biased. Of the 3 stands we make, they are the most fiddly, and require practice. But I won't hike without them if there's any question of suitable trees and spacing: I have no go-to-ground option. I wrote up my PCT experience with them on the Tensa Outdoor blog in 3 articles.
Great tips! Thank you for sharing. I also think about the enhanchment request for the underquilt protector, so you can zip the whole setup in one package, great thinking. Warbonnet listen … smarter and the best, can be even smarter, something for Gen 3 ?
I'd be super interested to see a video about hangs (pitches?) using the poles when you don't have any trees.
Check www.tensaoutdoor.com/tensa-trekking-treez-on-the-pacific-crest-trail/?v=7516fd43adaa. There’s instructional video on the product page, and print docs. I will revise docs with new insights gleaned on trip after hike.
Great on the trail info more people should do this because its the little things ye forget when your home. . I've been dreaming of this hammock 😅 one day..
Have you measured the temperature in the space between the UQP and the UQ? I’m having a hard time believing that space stays above freezing when the temperature is
I haven’t. You are correct that it’s not a foolproof way to keep above freezing, but does help some. I did note some crystals forming in water bottle kept there on a cold night (low unknown), while inch of water left outside in pot was frozen solid. Of course, putting between hammock and UQ would be more reliable, but I find that too much stashed there can lead to draftiness.
@@cleverchimp just testing my setup, luckily I have garmin tempe sensor. I will try.
Hello, this night no wind, high humidity. Warbonnet XLC DD, bugnet, thermarest mattress with alu inside, tailor made UQ 14F, Warmpeace Wiking 600 sleeping bag. After 4hours (just to make heat flow stable), 33,6F at the botton of the UQP (not touching ground), 43,9F at the ridge line inside bugnet, 33,1F at the shockcord, 31,5F 6feet far from hammock same height as shockcord measurement had. Always cca 10min waiting to stabilize sensor temperature. Measured by Garmin Tempe sensor. So there is a difference between outer temperature and inside the UQP. However wind can wipe out any difference, on other side, my strong insulation below me could stop any heat radiation down. My idea behind purchasing warbonnet UQP was to stop wind flowing between hammock and UQ and hide my stuff in case I have to leave my place for a moment and enviroment is not "friendly". Small hammock for stuff just below UQ do the job to hide stuff and protect it against wind and rain, wet socks lay at the UQ to dry during night.
Nice tips😊
I like my feet up but I have bad circulation as I'm pretty lanky so just barely above my head is perfect... also just got my xlc in the mail I still don't have and underquilt and I know wind really sucks the heat out of me
I prefer my hammock foot end to be a lot higher too. I find it way more comfortable for me.
My feet fall asleep if my feet are too high even with a diagonal lay
Love the video
You should be able to connect your protector zipper to your bug net zipper and sort of leave the hammock and Wookiee itself cocooned freely inside that “shell”
Tried that. Kind of hated it. I think i like the subtle ways the bugnet attached to hammock affects the lay.
Also the UQP if connected to itself would be closer to a snug stuffable tube with quilts inside, while the UQP attached direct to bugnet remains a very loose package liable to tangling when stuffing.
@@cleverchimp I prefer UQP to be connected to the bugnet. It gives me feeling that the wind blows around me, not inside the setup. Just a feeling 🙂
Tip: Tie a loop on the the end of your continous loop so that you can easily pull the becket hitch out and save your hands.ua-cam.com/video/qnwqPPquPRs/v-deo.html
Thank you. I was vaguely aware of this tip, but insufficiently motivated. I just tied an overhand knot in the continuous loops themselves, shortening them for even more flexibility hanging in tight spots, and the knot against the Becket functions as advertised to make untying easy.
Great tips, BUT be VERY careful about eating in your sleeping area. Any food smells you leave there can attract bears and other critters.
Acknowledged. I do not cook in camp, only for lunch underway. Also I avoid camping in established sites where critters are habituated. Finally, had bear canister. These absolutely savage mosquitoes would make you either eat in hammock or skip eating altogether.
Get A SNAKE SKIN
I own snakeskins. I use a mesh one for my tarp only. As developed by Hennessy, a hammock snakeskin contains only the hammock, not quilts and bedclothes. There are products described as lazy slug tubes that contain all. I think Anaconda is a new trademark for same. I want my underquilt protector/gear sling to convert to a lazy slug tube. I don't want to carry a separate lazy slug tube when the UQP is so close to being redundant.