something to consider on high card steel runs is that hand size jokers are more powerful than normal. An additional red seal steel king would have been more than 11x more mult, two of them is almost 130x
@@LiamGamingPcs1an additional red seal king applies a 1.5x mult multiplier 6 times on this run, twice from the two barons, once from steel, then again two barons and steel from the red seal triggering them all again. 1.5 to the power of 6 = about 11.4 the math for two cards is just twice as many triggers, so 1.5 to the power of 12, which is about 129.75
A chat mod that collectivrly keeps track of the Wheel Odds per run would make my UA-cam viewing experience skyrocket. I live for chat emoting WheelNope!!😂😂
@@Franklin_JohanessanHe is incrementing his growth by (X+1)^2, (X+2)^2, etc which is polynomial growth. Exponential growth would be X^1, X^2, etc. If X were 2, 5 increments of polynomial growth would be 49, while 5 increments of exponential growth would be 32. However at 10 steps, polynomial would be 121 but exponential would be 1024.
@@Franklin_Johanessanhe's doing x^2, which is 2*2, then 3*3, then 4*4 etc. exponential would be 2^x, which is 2*2, then 2*2*2, then 2*2*2*2, which is much faster growth than polynomial and it's actually how the blinds scale in endless mode, which is why mult jokers can't keep up
@@Piokoxer The blinds in endless mode don't scale exponentially, they scale by x^x^x, even faster than exponentially, so even a Perkeo + Observatory build (which does scale score exponentially) would eventually fail to keep up if it wasn't for the ante 39 killscreen
for those wondering, the negative joker copying baron was better than if it copied canio. Assuming a hand of 6 kings where at least 4 were red sealed (which was pretty typical by the time he got to around ante 12), baron is 1.5x^(6+4) = 58x, which is better than his canios that were each 40x
Canio scales though. If you have 3 Canio's he can pivot into the tiki he gets later which is better later since five flush tiki w/baron on 2 kings + 3 Canios is more. (Primarily due to flush 5 just having way better base chips and mult)
When the run died I feel like instead you could've just played all your non red seal kings and hope to draw more red seals. Each trigger adds a ton of value
Did the same run with ghost deck instead, got a glass polychrome queen deck down to 7 cards. Ended up getting 60x mults from double polychrome canio, got a brainstorm, and got retirgger face cards joker. the run ended at ante 15 with 6.455e18 being the best hand.
Playing the red seal steel spade (2^2, 4x) and having the purple seal steel in hand (1.5^3, 3.375x) for 13.5x was worse than playing the purple seal (2x) and having the extra red in hand (1.5^6, 11.39x) for 22.78x but I don't think that would have saved the run.
i'm surprised nobody's brought it up here, but i heard you say canio and thought you mispronounced. turns out between the demo and launch they changed his name from caino to canio.
As far as i know with the blank voucher, you have to buy it during an unseeded run to be able to actually proc the unlock for the +1 Joker space voucher
I got a run similar to this yesterday Double Canio from skipped Arcana tag and Spectral tag and then I got Buskin and the joker that makes every card a face card, had both my Canio at x27 by the end of the game with Card Sharp and Bloodstone on a almost nothing but hearts deck Wish I had saved the seed it’s a super fun deck
Is there a reason you're always playing 5 cards? For example 14:32 - adding the two extra cards to the 3 of a kind does nothing except deprive you of their gold boost if they remained in hand no?
this whole run is predicated on destroying useless cards-- and then he skips EVERY SINGLE useless card in the shop. how did no one in chat mention this??
Great chip boosting in this game is about +200 chips for example from Bull. Other jokers give even less than that. So if he had 200 base chips another 200 is the 2x mult. In later anties it is nothing
But he's right. You can't get unlocks in a seeded run. It's probably a bug where it shows how many you bought including those in seeded runs, but probably just need to buy it in unseeded a few times
I think your blank unlock might be bugged cause you play alot of seeded runs. You probably bought blanks in those seeds so its "counting" but not actually unlocking it
The increase becomes quadratic, not exponential. Exponential would be if you got more and more canios. I know the word exponential is used loosely, but in this case I think a run that gets more and more canios is actually possible. (eternal + negative + Ankh, somehow? Maybe only with mods.) So the distinction isn't totally irrelevant.
@@owninggreendragsdude but only if he played a red seal card, which you would kinda want to keep in hand to get the double baron benefits, unless your whole hand consists only of red seal steels. So playing non red seals made steel joker a lot better.
i got an unseeded run with an early canio and a naturally spawning negative pareiadolia joker and that trader card, i got to ante 14 that run it was fun
Because the two multiply each other. If they are both x4 its not a times x8 bonus, the first one does x4 and the second one takes the new mult and does x4
Not 2x, because Canio multiplies itself. If X is the amount that Canio is multiplying by, when X is two, mult is x4, but when X is 3, mult is x9 (then x16, x25, etc). The graph is actually score*x^2 (I… Think? Someone correct me if that’s still wrong). That’s still technically not an exponential function because an exponential function a number to the power of x rather than x to the power of a constant.
@@mrinfinity5557 An exponential function is one of the form f(x)=a^x, with x ∈ ℝ, x>0 and x=/=1, y=x^2 is a polynomial function of degree 2 (ax^2+bx+c), also known as a quadratic
The increase from 2 canio's being triggered a round isn't exponential, it's a multiplicative factor of exactly (2x+2)/x (where x is it's current multiplier). for Canio to be exponential it'd require a joker with a rule like "when Canio, campfire etc. abilities to increase xN mult trigger, trigger these abilities X times instead where X is the multiplier rounded down to the closest whole number. this would start canio off as X1, it'd trigger once on the activation going to X2, then it'd trigger twice on the next round if you activate it, so it'd be X4, then X8, 16, 32 and so on.
It's quadratic, not multiplicative, because Canio is a multiplicative card. Edit: also, you cannot mathematically represent the increase from a second Canio with that function, as the limit of any function (ax)/x as x→+∞ is necessarily a, and the equation is inversely proportional; you are, in essence, saying that the value of scaling two Canios is not worth the effort that it takes, as the relative value of each increase decreases, which isn't true.
@@fyfrrez yes its squared in the sense of what it provides to the hand, i should've explained what i meant, the rate of which canio itself increases in respect to it's previous term is (x+1)/x, it starts at 1 goes to 2 (so (1+1)/1) then on the next trigger it goes to 3, and the change is once again (x+1)/x, if you double (x+1)/x due to having 2 canio's it becomes (2x+2)/x. the rate in which 2 canio's change from each proc is (2x+2)/x, though thinking about it, skoottie most likely intended what you meant, i just misinterpreted it.
Man that was fun 😂 I could have probably done some things differently instead but that poly queen with a red seal put on it and later on have half steel cards was amazing along with keeping dna
You butchered your own "If you like the video ... Like the video" slogan. I need you to step it up! (This comment is in good fun, loving all the videos!)
Hi, I like your content very much. But i think you could get a little bit more focused on your plays quality, taking your time here and explaining the choices could get you to put back the game speed at maximum. It can get really frustrating. Anyway keep going ;)
I think this'll be the last i watch this guy's videos No f-ing consistency Just functioning based on vague outline of what he should be doing Not talking about him not using certain mechanics in game I'm talking about the reasoning and decision making Its either non-exsistant or he goes against it on multiple occasions Very stressful to watch
SEED: HS5H5310
Is it different for console cause it's not working for me give me arcana pack instead
Oh I didn't know u post this I've been trying to pause frame perfect just to screenshot your seeds 😂
@@aksteamerbtw4489 check other seeds he's done
MWDTCVMD starts w a holo canio from skipping first small blind and you can encounter a anhk and 2 invisible jokers from the shop
@@aksteamerbtw4489consoles may be on different versions, not sure how that affects seeds
I feel like you should do an unseeded run or two off camera to make sure you have the antimatter voucher unlocked for later runs
Wait. What’s does that voucher do again. I forgor
@@Minionjedi1+1 jonker slot
@@Minionjedi1it *CONSUMES THE UNIVERSE*
(+1 joker slot)
@@lemonlemonlemonlemon7494 it allows you to have one more jonker...
@@lemonlemonlemonlemon7494 wait. Is that the one unlocked by buying blank vouchers or something
something to consider on high card steel runs is that hand size jokers are more powerful than normal. An additional red seal steel king would have been more than 11x more mult, two of them is almost 130x
Wow
What math did you do to find that?
@@LiamGamingPcs1an additional red seal king applies a 1.5x mult multiplier 6 times on this run, twice from the two barons, once from steel, then again two barons and steel from the red seal triggering them all again. 1.5 to the power of 6 = about 11.4 the math for two cards is just twice as many triggers, so 1.5 to the power of 12, which is about 129.75
33:30 Skoottie confirming the salsa order for his chips while waiting on his food still.
Don't ever stop.
Once mod support gets added to Balatro, I hope someone makes a mod that adds flipped tarot cards. Cuz I have plenty of ideas for them.
Ah, so something like a Reverse Tarot in Isaac.
@lordpumpkinhead265 yeah something like that.
Evil wheel of fortune be like: Yep!
@@chris2476 +2
@@chris2476real
A chat mod that collectivrly keeps track of the Wheel Odds per run would make my UA-cam viewing experience skyrocket. I live for chat emoting WheelNope!!😂😂
Actually, 2 scaling multipliers is polynomial growth not exponential 🤓
Shiet, I wanted to make this exact comment.
Can you explain how? Like, using equations or something?
@@Franklin_JohanessanHe is incrementing his growth by (X+1)^2, (X+2)^2, etc which is polynomial growth. Exponential growth would be X^1, X^2, etc. If X were 2, 5 increments of polynomial growth would be 49, while 5 increments of exponential growth would be 32. However at 10 steps, polynomial would be 121 but exponential would be 1024.
@@Franklin_Johanessanhe's doing x^2, which is 2*2, then 3*3, then 4*4 etc.
exponential would be 2^x, which is 2*2, then 2*2*2, then 2*2*2*2, which is much faster growth than polynomial and it's actually how the blinds scale in endless mode, which is why mult jokers can't keep up
@@Piokoxer The blinds in endless mode don't scale exponentially, they scale by x^x^x, even faster than exponentially, so even a Perkeo + Observatory build (which does scale score exponentially) would eventually fail to keep up if it wasn't for the ante 39 killscreen
The amount of times i've heard on this channel how you're waiting for death, I just wanna make sure you're doing okay
exactly what i needed, thank you skoottie
thank you :)
for those wondering, the negative joker copying baron was better than if it copied canio.
Assuming a hand of 6 kings where at least 4 were red sealed (which was pretty typical by the time he got to around ante 12), baron is 1.5x^(6+4) = 58x, which is better than his canios that were each 40x
Canio scales though. If you have 3 Canio's he can pivot into the tiki he gets later which is better later since five flush tiki w/baron on 2 kings + 3 Canios is more. (Primarily due to flush 5 just having way better base chips and mult)
When the run died I feel like instead you could've just played all your non red seal kings and hope to draw more red seals. Each trigger adds a ton of value
I did this seed with the spectral deck. You’re given a Hex card so you start with 2 Polychrome Canios.
I miss good ol unseeded runs
Skoottie proving that it’s not about the size of your deck, but how you use it
*long sigh*
Did the same run with ghost deck instead, got a glass polychrome queen deck down to 7 cards. Ended up getting 60x mults from double polychrome canio, got a brainstorm, and got retirgger face cards joker. the run ended at ante 15 with 6.455e18 being the best hand.
I had Mr. bones save me against violet vessel
Playing the red seal steel spade (2^2, 4x) and having the purple seal steel in hand (1.5^3, 3.375x) for 13.5x was worse than playing the purple seal (2x) and having the extra red in hand (1.5^6, 11.39x) for 22.78x but I don't think that would have saved the run.
I think that the king of spades play would be better if smiling face was the first joker
Ah yes, the seed where you become Robespierre.
"The longer the Canio is on earth the stronger it becomes." - Samuel Hayden
Ah Kamino, the birthplace of the clones
isn't that that guy with the shades from that anime about drills or something
i should have saved my seed for a good hologram joker/stone joker combo that just went to the moon
Seeded runs of Balatro seem to be so popular on UA-cam. Were seeded runs of other roguelikes this popular and I just never noticed?
Thats the one joker im missing to have every joker found/unlocked
i'm surprised nobody's brought it up here, but i heard you say canio and thought you mispronounced. turns out between the demo and launch they changed his name from caino to canio.
yeah idk why, maybe the IRL one was canio and local typed it wrong
It's so weird that people in chat are asking what the seed is when he clearly says he's going to list it in the description in the intro
the funny thing is my stream has an overlay that clearly shows the seed as well
Man I forgot that ace could be used for a 5432A straight
As far as i know with the blank voucher, you have to buy it during an unseeded run to be able to actually proc the unlock for the +1 Joker space voucher
Skoottie : it doesn't unlock it because it has to be in non challenge / seeded runs
Iyltvltvetrotv is the king opening. You cannot deny! 🤣 preciate you Skoottie haha
Imagine an eternal Mr. Bones
I got a run similar to this yesterday
Double Canio from skipped Arcana tag and Spectral tag and then I got Buskin and the joker that makes every card a face card, had both my Canio at x27 by the end of the game with Card Sharp and Bloodstone on a almost nothing but hearts deck
Wish I had saved the seed it’s a super fun deck
Wish I got Trading Card in it as early as you did though LOL
Is there a reason you're always playing 5 cards? For example 14:32 - adding the two extra cards to the 3 of a kind does nothing except deprive you of their gold boost if they remained in hand no?
27:44 did you get distracted and forget about strength for the 2 Queens or was there reasoning behind it
Someone got 4 canios on an unseeded anyglyph deck and you need anaglyph cause the double tag that gives you more spectral if you take the spectral tag
Pareidoilia is such a cool Joker
34:39 trying to get more kings,
34:52 no more kings,
34:56 ROLLS THE FUCKING KING
this whole run is predicated on destroying useless cards-- and then he skips EVERY SINGLE useless card in the shop. how did no one in chat mention this??
I WAS ABOUT TO SAY THIS EXACT THING
The fact he still doesn't have antimatter unlocked is sending me lmao
i went and unlocked it, played a couple unseeded runs lol
I have Canio unlocked but my soul turns into a Perkeo?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't some chip boosting helped a lot? You had an INSANE mult, but a chip value of less than 200
Great chip boosting in this game is about +200 chips for example from Bull. Other jokers give even less than that. So if he had 200 base chips another 200 is the 2x mult. In later anties it is nothing
I don't think the blank buys count on seeded runs? I could be wrong
i think its a bug, it counts for the total count that it shows, but it doesnt actually unlock it lol
But he's right. You can't get unlocks in a seeded run. It's probably a bug where it shows how many you bought including those in seeded runs, but probably just need to buy it in unseeded a few times
Should def have bought erosion joker no?
no
I think your blank unlock might be bugged cause you play alot of seeded runs. You probably bought blanks in those seeds so its "counting" but not actually unlocking it
The increase becomes quadratic, not exponential. Exponential would be if you got more and more canios. I know the word exponential is used loosely, but in this case I think a run that gets more and more canios is actually possible. (eternal + negative + Ankh, somehow? Maybe only with mods.) So the distinction isn't totally irrelevant.
The bgm in the intro sounds really familiar. What's it from?
49:40 can somebody explain why idol was better than the steel joker? Steel joker had x3.75 and idol had x2.
2x for each or 3,75x total
@@owninggreendragsdude but only if he played a red seal card, which you would kinda want to keep in hand to get the double baron benefits, unless your whole hand consists only of red seal steels. So playing non red seals made steel joker a lot better.
This really is an old people game
I did a spectral deck run on this seed and got them both polychrome from hex, got to like e15
i played the seed and its bonkers! Love your vids :)!!!
thanks!
15:54 ken carson reference??????!!!!?
On my first run on the abandoned deck I got a double Perkeo but I botched it against violet vessel 😭
thank you skoottie :)
Whats the first background song?
Can someone explain to me how tiki is better than steel card when he’s only playing high card?
Wake up honey, new like the video like the video inflection dropped
Showman just comes and goes doesnt he.
showman the goat, there for a good time not a long time
Yeah the game won't let you progress with seeded runs, I fumbled a great run, restarted and won but didn't unlock the next stake.
I was so mad the first time I got this joker I did not get a way to destroy cards no tarrot cards and died before I could use it
My first gold was a bloodstone run with checkered deck
1:50 how is that a straight?
Ace can count as low or high
Why are you playing the kings when they give you xmult in hand?
And why tf weren't you buying the kings in shop??? You skipped several!
If you did this seed with Ghost deck: Two POLYCHROME Canio's fam. I had a fun, FUN run.
20:52 a king card 👁️👄👁️
i got an unseeded run with an early canio and a naturally spawning negative pareiadolia joker and that trader card, i got to ante 14 that run it was fun
how does it become exponential if you have 2? wouldn't that just be a graph of 2x instead of just a graph of x?
It isn't exponential, it's a quadratic graph because the Canio's functionally multiply their multipliers together, so it's x^2
Because its the squares. So, you go from 2*2 to 3*3 to 4*4. 4 to 9 to 16. Another way to write it is (x)^2, which is exponential
Because the two multiply each other. If they are both x4 its not a times x8 bonus, the first one does x4 and the second one takes the new mult and does x4
Not 2x, because Canio multiplies itself. If X is the amount that Canio is multiplying by, when X is two, mult is x4, but when X is 3, mult is x9 (then x16, x25, etc). The graph is actually score*x^2 (I… Think? Someone correct me if that’s still wrong). That’s still technically not an exponential function because an exponential function a number to the power of x rather than x to the power of a constant.
@@mrinfinity5557 An exponential function is one of the form f(x)=a^x, with x ∈ ℝ, x>0 and x=/=1, y=x^2 is a polynomial function of degree 2 (ax^2+bx+c), also known as a quadratic
God damn get antimatter unseeded. Lol😅
Missing out on an extra joker each run
What’s the opening music from
Run a fresh account seedless
She like ain't you Ken Carson ain't you 15:54
The increase from 2 canio's being triggered a round isn't exponential, it's a multiplicative factor of exactly (2x+2)/x (where x is it's current multiplier). for Canio to be exponential it'd require a joker with a rule like "when Canio, campfire etc. abilities to increase xN mult trigger, trigger these abilities X times instead where X is the multiplier rounded down to the closest whole number. this would start canio off as X1, it'd trigger once on the activation going to X2, then it'd trigger twice on the next round if you activate it, so it'd be X4, then X8, 16, 32 and so on.
It's quadratic, not multiplicative, because Canio is a multiplicative card.
Edit: also, you cannot mathematically represent the increase from a second Canio with that function, as the limit of any function (ax)/x as x→+∞ is necessarily a, and the equation is inversely proportional; you are, in essence, saying that the value of scaling two Canios is not worth the effort that it takes, as the relative value of each increase decreases, which isn't true.
It's just x^2, what are you talking about? Not exponential, sure, but not whatever you wrote either
@@fyfrrez yes its squared in the sense of what it provides to the hand, i should've explained what i meant, the rate of which canio itself increases in respect to it's previous term is (x+1)/x, it starts at 1 goes to 2 (so (1+1)/1) then on the next trigger it goes to 3, and the change is once again (x+1)/x, if you double (x+1)/x due to having 2 canio's it becomes (2x+2)/x.
the rate in which 2 canio's change from each proc is (2x+2)/x,
though thinking about it, skoottie most likely intended what you meant, i just misinterpreted it.
it is literally an exponent, just x^2
Nerd 🤓
lol this is so weird I just uploaded a canio video today 😂 didnt start with two though!
well you only get mime once up to ante 16 sadly
Camino...wait for it...a dairy!
im losing my mind, is canio now how to say it
Nah, I just typed comment on mobile and it auto corrected it.
*Double Camino?!?*
SAP doesn't exist
I still dont know why he sold that fool at the start of the run
To buy the joker
@@jesscastles7120missed that
He didn't need to though, he also didn't read the chat saying he has 3 slots 😂
Give 'em a break I say, he's memeing it up 👌
@@CocoTheTortieme when you learn that things cost money (will never happen)
2 canios make the growth quadratic not exponential
Grim reaper be like 36:57
Played the seed before watching the video. I'm through Ante 12 with 5 aces in my deck all Golden and playing only high card. 3x Canio's at x46 mult.
Burning Joker + Destroy single discard was amazing.
9:00 never punished
when will skootie put the seed in the description i cant find these seeds in the discord
its been 7 min since upload just wait
Edit: also its in the first 16 sec
HS5H5310
I found out in one of rhe standar packs u can get a poly queen 😂 so im gonna be rushing to do single hands
Man that was fun 😂 I could have probably done some things differently instead but that poly queen with a red seal put on it and later on have half steel cards was amazing along with keeping dna
I LOVE BALATRO!!!!!
I love you skoot
Just played this seed managed to get DNA and brainstorm as well got canio to like x86 was using polychrome red seal steel queens for flush five
W UA-camr
W commenter
You butchered your own "If you like the video ... Like the video" slogan. I need you to step it up! (This comment is in good fun, loving all the videos!)
Can you please put your game speed to 4x ????
What does the red guy do (legendary)
Disables all boss blind abilities
His name is chicot, he disables all boss blinds
What does the deck do?
Idk
Magic Deck, Start with the crystal ball voucher (+1 consumable slot), and 2 copies of the fool.
@@maytegonzalez1778thank you :)
Hi, I like your content very much. But i think you could get a little bit more focused on your plays quality, taking your time here and explaining the choices could get you to put back the game speed at maximum. It can get really frustrating. Anyway keep going ;)
Should have early on been playing hands instead of discarding to get as many cards gold in the deck as fast as possible.
42:42 Don't tell conservatives they'll call the game woke 😄
I mean, not very convincing acting. If you're going to practice this off camera.. at least work on the delivery.
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Seed
HS5H5310
firstttt
I think this'll be the last i watch this guy's videos
No f-ing consistency
Just functioning based on
vague outline of what he should be doing
Not talking about him not using certain mechanics in game
I'm talking about the reasoning and decision making
Its either non-exsistant or he goes against it on multiple occasions
Very stressful to watch
boowomp
Second
fake
seeded runs are lame
Agree