How to remove a stuck oil filter on a car, truck, boat or airplane in minutes - Maintenance Tricks
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- Опубліковано 29 лют 2012
- OLD VERSION OF TALON SHOWN IN VIDEO
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Bogert Aviation (The Bogert Group) has been solving this problem for 15 years. Stuck oil filters don't have to ruin your whole day. Watch and see how simple it can be to remove a stuck oil filter if you have the right tool. This method is safe and will work on virtually any spin on filter, every time. Aircraft engines get hot and stuck filters do happen from time to time. Aviation technicians don't have the option to beat on things with a hammer and you wouldn't want them to. See how professionals save time and money.
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i never thought that a 10min oil change job which i done billions of time can ever turn into a nightmare like on saturday. so to you diy and even mechanics dont leave it to chance. its a good investment.
this tool saved my life. i gotta tell ya. i bought a 05 durango for my wife to drive and tried to perform a oil change on it. WELL . my luck the filter was on sooo tight the filter wrench i had destroyed the filter cutting it in half. i spent 9hrs last Saturday trying to get it off. watching me suffer and curse lol. the wife found this video on youtube and i didn't waste any time buying the tool. once i got the tool it only took 10mins to remove the broken pc still on the block. AWESOME.
First, I had already tried multiple methods to remove the oil filter, and in the process, I had damaged it beyond recognition. The "can" was crushed, and no conventional method would work... The Talon was my last hope so I ordered it on New Year's Eve 2015.
When I first opened the Talon oil filter tool, I thought "no way is this going to work." It's not going to fit the oil filter on my lawn tractor... so I put it away -- for 6 weeks.
Today, I gave it a try. Adjusted the tool to only use two prongs (screws). I had to use a drill to increase the size of the holes in the oil filter plate (used a Cobalt drill bit). Used a hammer to tap the Talon onto the filter, grabbed my trusty torque wrench, and I gave it a couple of pulls, and...
The thing worked! I cannot tell you how happy I am. It saved me time and money.
Great tool, and for me it was worth every penny.
Thanks!
Greg
If I had this much room to work it wouldn't be stuck!
NOT TRUE IVE GOT ONE THAT WILL NOT COME OFF AND I HAVE PLENTY OF ROOM
@@rickstancil737 fail
did i see the filter actually get tighter when the hole saw blade was cutting into it ?
Ray, as you might have guessed, this was a mock up for filming and yes, it got tighter when drilled. You know that sometimes it easier to break something loose if you tighten it slightly before you back it off.
+Richard Bogert That is true on rusted bolts and nuts as it loosen the rust in the threads. I oil filter however has the threads soaking in oil and to tighten it more collapse the rubber o ring more putting more stress on threads making harder to come off
For 1 year my 1965 El Camino underwent a body restoration. The body shop had the oil and filter changed before I picked it up.
The mechanic cranked the filter did not lube the ring and cranked it on too hard. I tried the old screw driver through the filter trick and the filter tore apart leaving only the filter base. After a couple of hours of hammer and chisel I gave up and went on line. I found Bogert Aviation's video and ordered the oil filter removal tool. It arrived 3 days later, it took awhile to get the 3 legs to fit the filter base holes. But it only took a minute or two to remove the filter base. Yeah it's fifty dollars, but how much to tow it to a shop and have them remove it? It's a great tool that saved me time and money. That is why I use the K & N filters with the 13/16 nut.
Joseph Cox you know what imma start using the kn filter now too so this wont happen to me again. and good to hear thimgs worked out for you. when this happened to me i thlugjt i was lost but thanks to rich and his bright idea lol. i am out of a big hole lol
This is a great idea, great design, and a great tool! Having tried all of my filter wrenches, the old screwdriver trick and the hammer/chisel combo, I ordered this tool since I had made a mess, destroyed the filter, and still couldn't get it off my truck. This was the only thing that allowed me to get enough torque on what remained of the filter at the correct angle and in the tight space to remove it. Many thanks to Bogert Aviation for a quality product that made my day!
I just used this tool today just like they did .Hole saw and tool. Saved me a lot of time.
Oh my you have made a simple to fix problem a huge problem with this method. You don't need to buy anything to remove a stuck on oil filter.
Dieselworld, We wouldn't have bothered making a tool no one needed. Based on the calls we get, I'd say that it is a problem. Now I agree that it shouldn't be a problem but it still is. I built my first tool 30 years ago when I was working on aircraft. I had a stuck filter and absolutely no way to get at it other than through it's bottom.
dieselworld imost of the time you would not run into situations like this but when you do you gonna wish you had a tool like such as this one. i thought i was invincible until the filter broke on me.
Obviously you don't change your own oil....
We have been hearing a lot of stories from people about filters on new vehicles having the filters on so tight they can't turn them off without going to extreme measures. I'm glad you got it off.
Even the shops have problems with stuck filters from time to time. I spent 30 years working as an aircraft mechanic and I can tell you that we were very careful to torque filters to the low end of the spec. and even then, we would occasionally get a stuck filter. Having a tool like this one was a real time saver.
I just spent two days on my back under a 40 foot Winnebago trying everything available from 3 auto supply stores and Harbour freight.
Finally ordered this and it worked.
From now on I'll be the only person to replace that filter.
Your right! I've been an aircraft mechanic for more than 30 years and you would not dare do some of the things people do to remove stuck filters. This tool gets the job done without risking damage to expensive engine components. I have used it myself although my tool is almost 20 years old and does not look exactly the same but works the same way.
Thank You for posting that tool just saved me a lot of time and money...
THIS TOOL SAVED ME BIG TIME!!!!!! THANKS!! stuck oil filter on a yamaha f150 outboard.
My coworkers had a very hard time taking a big one off from a truck. They made a big hole in it and stuck a pipe through it. According to the customer, it was a mechanic that had changed it last. He was was getting pissed off, not at us though. He said he was going to have a long chat with that mechanic. He felt a huge relief when we finally got it off and put the new one on. We even showed the customer that it was hand tied and not super tight.
I used this product today after many failed attempts to remove my filter from my 2013 Camaro. Going into today my filter was mangled beyond recognition. Thanks to this tool I was able to remove this filter. I literally had no other option. Even more impressive was the fact that Richard took my car the entire day and helped me due to a crappy design by AC delco that forced me to drill even more holes. I am so releved!!
I just improvised using the tool for a grinder and it worked!
I'm glad that it worked. I never thought of using it as a spanner wrench for grinders or other applications.
Richard Bogert
I tried many methods to remove the crushed filter and was ready to pull the engine on my sons Dodge Dart when I found Bogert Aviation. The upgraded tool worked great and saved me hours of engine remove and replace time.
Pretty cool. Looks so easy:) Talk about a time saver!
Your so right! Some filters really fight back. This tool has been improved from the one shown in the video. It works the same way but is quite a bit stronger than those from just a short time ago.In fact it's twice as strong. They have also come out with a new TALON oil filter tool that will take 150% of the torque that this tool can handle. That's more than 1500 lbs. inches of torque. Just take care that the links are in a trailing position.
Looks like an effective method as long as you have access. My old Corolla and my jet skis do not have that kind of access. A screwdriver and hammered all the way through the filter worked well for me.
I got one one these 10 years ago. I have had to use it a few times and all I can say is that it works. The one I have looks a little different but still the same tool, This is the first time I've seen a hole saw used. I might try it next time.
Purchased this last week and just got it and used it....THE BEST! I have triedall of the tricks...Screwdriver, strap wrench, end cap wrench. I literally removed the old filter in 10 seconds with little effort.
You must be the Roy Rogers of the drill world!
Brybo86, I agree that this is a messy way to remove a filter and it isn't anyone's first choice. This is the tool that gets the job done when the other tools have crushed the filter can or the screw driver has torn the can open. The wrench you suggest is probably a good tool most of the time. When it isn't, use this one to get the job done.
I own a 1989 Honda Civic FWD. The oil filter is located underneath the intake manifold so you must reach it from the underside (talk about lack of clearance). My dad told Bogert over the phone that the holes on oil filters differ. Bogert Aviation was willing to butcher a fram oil filter just to machine special removal studs for us. We received the tool the very next day, and with a little muscle, IT CAME OFF! I would recommend stronger fittings that grip the holes as these became a bit bent.
I know that we are not supposed to need a tool like this if the filter was install correctly in the first place, but the truth is, it does happen and when it does a tool like this can really save your bacon.
Your right in the respect that that method has worked many times but when people find themselves searching you-tube for answers, it's usually gone way past that point. Sometimes, all the usual tricks just don't work and you need the tool of last resort. This is it.
fifty dollars is a little expensive for my blood for ( even if it's pretty cool ) a single purpose tool.
Thanks for the perfect solution for my stuck filter though. Great video!
Never saw an oil filter stuck that bad before. I think think my van filter was stuck pretty good one time and I just stabbed a screw driver in the side to get it started. A little messy but got the job done.
I was prepared to point out the you moved the filter while turning clockwise with hole saw but you seem like nice guy and this tool is kind of clever. I have torn filter cans with sockets and giant channel-locks .dont over tighten folks.
Socket size is 19mm I used this tool to get the oil filter off my boat wasn't much room but got it off and I was working blind just by feel on Mercruiser 5.0LX
I would never drill a hole or otherwise render a filter totally unusable thereby turning a troublesome situation into a possible calamity if the removal fails. While the filter is intact, the motor can operate. What's interesting in the video, is the filter actually tightens @.42. So the device is shown to work on a filter which is not solidly jammed. This raises the question of whether the device could remove the filter base if it were solidly jammed.
You would if you wanted it off and everything else failed. Or just leave the filter on forever. You think maybe what you noted about the filter not being solidly jammed might be because this was a demonstration? Lots of reviews claim it got them out of a jam. I know, they're all made up reviews.
Again I will say it. Use a cup style oil filter wrench, drill 6 to 7 3/16ths holes in the cup itself. Mine is aluminum. Install on stuck filter and sheet rock screws to the holes and turn off. Works every time
I like your idea. I can see that working provided you go to that method before you have already crushed the filter can. Once the can it crushed you need a different method. This video is rather old. The newest filter tool is much better and we call it the TALON.
@@richardbogert7675 ha ha ha ha I had to wreck a lot of filters to get where I am today
I broke this tool removing a really stuck oil filter on my 2nd Gen Camaro. The small machine screws that fit into the holes of the filter snapped off and I had to fabricate replacements. I had to use a massive breaker bar with an extension to loosen the thing. No other tool would have worked.
oh yea. pretty nice. to bad we, don't all have that kinda space to work with.
The way the filter can is opened isn't that important. The hole saw is just one method and perhaps not the most practical way for most people. Once the filter is opened, space should not be an issue.
816rob1, Yes a screw driver punched through the filter can does work sometimes. This tool is for all those times that it doesn't work or when( as in this example) there isn't room to make that approach work. I have worked on aircraft for over 30 years and I can tell you that there are lots of places where it would be impossible or unwise to try the screw driver approach.
Hey man where can I buy this tool I really need it and if I can get it here by tomorrow that would be great and If I have to pay a little extra it's ok but please help
Beautiful -If you have the room.
Tried it myself. Butchered the oil filter. I don't think an aviation mechanic would wanna risk damaging a $40,000 engine block :O
No doubt about it! A screw driver will work some of the time. This tool is for the really stubborn filters where the only thing the screw driver does is tear the can loose.
im going to make one.
I have done that to and it often works, but when it doesn't, when all you do is tear the can loose, this tool is the way to do.
There are lots of times that a pair of channel locks can not be used because there is no room at the base of the filter. You can see in this example that there would be no way to get pliers around the base of the filter. This method works. You may not always have room to use the hole saw like they show but if you can get the filter cartridge out, you can remove the filter. You might watch "Difficult Oil Filter Removal"
@ronhollenbeck True, if you have access. In this video you can see that there is not room to drive a screw driver through from the side. It was a situation similar to this working on aircraft that prompted me to build the tool in the first place.
I wish I had this tool right now! I've been trying the old hammer and chisel on and off for a week now with no luck...but do I want to pay fifty bucks for a single use tool? probably not.
How much is your time worth? How much to have a shop remove it for you? Can you make your own tool? I thought $50.00 was a better deal. See my other comment and good luck.
Grassroot, The hole saw is only one way of getting to the filter cartridge. Most people try stabbing the filter first in an effort to pry the filter off. With a little ripping you should be able to tear the bottom of the filter can off. You don't have to be gentle about it. You just need to get the cartridge out. Once the guts of the filter are out of the way, the filter tool can be inserted to remove the filter.
How do you order this tool I called the 1800 number and it was disconnected??
seems that after you drain your oil cant you drill 2 holes to fit the tool as well
What were you working on?
A MUST HAVE IF YOU MESSED UP!
I broke and shredded my hands for over two days trying to remove the overtightened oil filter on my Ram 1500. I drove over 200KM to pick one up to free my truck from its oil-less state. It took more time to calibrate the tool to fit my Fram (crap) oil filter than I spent finally removing the oil filter from the deep crevasses of the truck. 20ish minutes later (and cutting open a brand new Fram oil filter to perfectly fit from the inside of the filter) I snagged the tool on to the mangled oil filter and VOILA, it came off.
You CAN make your own jig to remove the filter. BUT WHY?
BTW...the tool is VERY different that the one in this video. Much better!
Don't understand why you cut open the new filter.....why didn't you just align the tool with the exposed holes of the new filter from outside the filter, like they show in their instructional videos?
Rubber expands a lot with heat, especially compared to metal, so first step is to let the engine cool if it is giving you trouble.
This is why I use sand paper to remove mine. No slip
I cant install your oil filter tool in to the holes on my oil filter because there is a piece of metal with smaller holes in it blocking it and it doesnt seem to come off. any suggestions????
Vic, I'm hoping that you called in to get your question answered. We are so busy that we don't get to check the comments on all the You-tube videos that Bogert Aviation has. We have great people that are very knowledgeable and eager to help. In any case like yours, a photo emailed to us would be a big help so we can see just what your are seeing. (509)736-1513
the product link takes me to the main website but I cannot find this particular tool. what is the name of it?
10M-ETALON, Thank you for the inquiry.
Bogert Aviation has made some changes in this tool that makes it twice as strong and they came out with a new tool they call the TALON. There is a new video for the Talon. The Talon is 150% as strong as the improved version of this tool. I see they posted a video response.
Are you crazy. There's never enough room for these methods
was thinking that same.
Did this pliers and a big flathead in between
Mistakenly posted on this site because I ordered the Talon version with 3 prongs. I've also posted my view on that site.
The tool I received is not the same as on the website. The pins on the tool are two zinc screws which screwed on with nuts. The pins on the website are welded on the tool and look like the same metal as the body of the tool. The problem with the screws as the pin is that the screws are too soft to do the job. They are bended at the very first try. I have to get the replacement of the screw with stronger screw. The screws are 10-32 1”. After replace the screws; the tool works fine.
Yeah, I know the main issue is removing the filter,
but getting the bottom off would be the hard part as
no tool are small enough to fit in to do it. I always try
to avoid piercing it as then you can't run the engine.
Main thing is not to tighten so that it is a problem.
This is why I prefer to do my own changing. Some
shops tighten things so much I begin to think it's a
trick they do.
The tool could be used that way I suppose except that by the time you would like to try it, the filter can is already screwed up. I wouldn't what to punch holes in the filter can and make the mess unless I had to.
Like they say in the video, the hole saw is just one method. The important thing is to open the end of the filter and get the cartridge out.
This tool has undergone a metamorphosis in the last few months because of some of the great feedback from our customers. The tool is now the best it's ever been.Updated pictures of the tool are available on the web site.
Man this would be really useful if they put the oil filter in a spot you can do this
Half the time reaching it is the hardest part! Luckily we made our tool adjustable for those tight spaces.
Ideally, you would also be using left-hand drill bits and a left-hand hole saw.
I'm almost sorry that we showed a hole saw being used. Most of the time people have tried using various tools, punches, screw drivers and the such and the filter can is already destroyed before using our tool. The important thing is to gain access.
Only works when a filter is in a position where you have clearance to its rear, not on the back of a transverse mount engine.
Great idea but there is no space under my truck to work with this method. No go
My husband was trying to get a stuck oil filter off of our lawn mower and the threads that hold the oil filter on broke! He couldn't get it to loosen or tighten so he kept trying to loosen it and the threads snapped off. Now my 2 yr old riding mower is useless. I have searched and searched but can't find info on this happening to anybody else or how to fix it. What do you recommend?
This is very unusual. You didn't say that he had been using our tool? The first thing that comes to mind is that the filter may have been cross threaded when installed but that is just a guess. could you send photos? I may be able to help if I can see the situation. email them to. richard.bogert@bogertgroup.com
gatorftbllvr just an FYI. u can buy a replacement oil filter adapter for motors. they are attachments made for the block and can be replaced.
We had to order the entire top plate with not so much as a "We're sorry" from the manufacturer. Just a "oh well, you need to buy a whole new motor." So with no help from them we found a website with replacement parts and saw we could buy just the top plate. It runs like brand new. Thx!
I recommend finding a new husband
I simply stick a screwdrivers sideways and spin it on confined spaces quicker then this
How the hell would I be able to drill holes etc... before using this too in a small space ? I barely have enough room to get a conventional oil filter wrench on.
Why don't you just drill holes in the filter casing to fit the tool into?
Blacktiger, The filter can material is so flimsy that the small pins just tear the can apart. If the filter is truly stuck, it will take more torque than the can material can handle.
because the FILTER will just twist and it still won't come off
Obviously the saw will loosen the filter while cutting, thanks,
I've yet to see a filter that couldn't be removed by a chain & spray oil.
No doubt a brass punch would work in some cases where you had room to get an angle on it. The best solution is to properly lube the gasket and not to over tighten the filter in the first place but when a stuck filter does happen, The Bogert Tool will be one solution with a good track record.
Is that 2nd piece still available to buy?
Eddie, This tool has been upgraded a couple of times the newest version of the tool is called the Talon bogertaviation.com/products/talon-oil-filter-tool-up-to-1500-in-lbs It is far stronger than this original version.
Richard Bogert is this item returnable if it isn't able to remove it?
It might work if you started out that way in the beginning but no one wants to make that kind of mess on a regular basis. Once the can is crushed, it looses a lot of strength and I doubt it would work.
Just gotta hijack a jumbo jet, they are bound to have on of those tools on board. Aw heck, i'll just buy an oil filter socket.
Working way too to damn hard there son
where can I get this tool?
Eugenio, The tool is available direct from Bogert Aviation or from a number of aviation parts companies. I would suggest you check out the TALON oil filter tool. It's a three prong design and also a Bogert Aviation product.
That is Fuckin Genius!!!!!!!
The heck of it is it all depends on being able to cut off the bottom of the
can. Don't see how this can be done on my cars. No way to get a saw in to do it.
OMG...Buy a K&N Oil Filter with the built in Nut. Otherwise use a oil filter wrench or wrap a leather belt around it and give it a firm tug. Always put a film of oil on the rubber gasket before putting on a new filter.
Martin, Usually, your solutions do the trick. This tool is what you use when the other methods have destroyed the filter can or mashed it so bad that it's hard to get a hold of. This tool is not for the normal oil change. In addition, this video is of the first version of this tool and the TALON is much better but does the same job.
I was ready to make fun of this but it actually is a good solution. I have used channel locks on the worst ones and they work with some effort but this method would let me get my breaker bar into the action and you get a purchase on solid metal. The problem is often one of access due to flanges and other things - especially on motorcycles. Accessing from the end like this defeats those problems. But the real question is: Why do people insist on over-tightening oil filters???? STOP DOING THAT PLEASE.
santacruzer, we have improved the tool a number of times since we made this first video on the OFT. The NEW TALON tool is much stronger. I made my first one more than 30 years ago while working as an aircraft mechanic. The filter was stuck. There was no access except from the top in this case. I realize that we shouldn't have to do this but it happens pretty often even on new vehicles at their first oil change.
Thier is a tool that I made that is way faster it gos on the emd and has 3 pins that lock in to the case
this wudnt help me at all lol my exhaust headers are too close to the filter
It will work most places but if not, take care to lube your gasket and don't over tighten in the first place.
I don't ever over tighten it at all.
ShaDoWhUnTeR ellis That's good! We get calls all the time from people that are at their whits end. They have already crushed the filter can with Channel Locks or driven screw drivers through it to twist it off to no avail. The tool that is seen in the video has undergone many changes and the two prong tool isn't available any longer. There were too many times when the torque required to break a filter loose was enough to shear the screws. We couldn't go to bigger screws because they need to fit the internal holes in the filter. By going to three prongs, we were able to dramatically increase the amount of torque we could place on the tool.
Only feasible if you have the space to get a drill in.
The drill is only one method. Ant way you can open the can and remove the cartridge works.
Use a K&N filter with the built in 1" nut on the bottom, you'll never have another stuck filter. 👍
Dustin,
When I was working on aircraft, we had filters that had the nut on the bottom. This was to allow a person to torque the filter to a specified torque and then safety wire. Even so, I have run across filters that we not coming off that way and even tore the nut off the bottom of the filter. Most of the time, the nut is a good feature and the filter would come off. Our tool is for the times when normal doesn't work.
+Dustin Cochran Wrong. I have one of those K&N filters with the nut and there's a reason I'm watching this video. That sucker is STUCK despite having only been hand tightened by me.
Cap wrench or clench wheel.
hammer a fat chisel into the top of the oil filter. grab the handle of the chisel with vice grips if needed.
Whats the socket size?
I know they can do it. I know friends in Australia have gotten them. Send them an email to their sales staff. The email address is on their web site under contact us.
I’ve had to remove some oil filters from some shops that had to have been installed with a impact with blue loctite 🤣🤣.. never once have I had to resort to cutting a filter off.. I’ve always managed with oil filter pliers and not being weak 🤷🏼♂️
Look at the oil that came out of the filter, it still had several Hrs/Miles left on it. If you gave some of the room you had there to remove that filter to half the people in the comment section the world would be a better place lolz, just joking, cool tool does it come with the whole saw because I don't have that either. :) you know I could weld the same thing up with a piece of flat steel 2/3 pins and a 3/4 nut right ? :)
It's a demo filter. It is obviously a mockup for demonstration purposes. The saw tightens the damn thing when it's being cut open.
Note that I do not support this ridiculous piece of metal. There's a number of ways to remove a filter that don't involve a special tool, power drill, or metal-cutting hole saw blades. If you have an engine designed by a mental case, and the filter is surrounded by a pointless metal fairing like the video? wipe the excess oil off the thing and use some thin leather like you're opening a jar. It's actually stuck? try a screwdriver through the side.
This thing is garbage, purpose-built clutter that has no place clogging up a toolkit. if you can't turn a stuck filter, maybe get someone who doesn't have dainty ladylike hands to do it for you. If you can tighten it you can damn well find the leverage to remove it.
At first I thought this should be another fake tool. however after a little thought I've decided that this is actually a very clever tool, and a last case scenario. But, metal shavings like this are fatal to an engine, I wouldn't use a hole saw, but a special oil filter sheer tool to remove the end without all the shavings. Just one shaving reintroduced into system is total devastation, bogartaviation should include a tool to remove the end like a can opener. Excellent worst case tool
Just let the drill turn to the other side and it is done...
Meroh, the filter in this video was a prop for the video and not an actual stuck filter. I can tell you that if the filter was actually stuck like so many of our customers have, the drill by itself would not do it. The video is the first one we did and the tool has improved as we got better ways to build them and make them stronger.
Some of you must not understand how "STUCK" an oil filter can get. Suggersting a simple "cap, socket, strap wrench" or other obvious tools to use is not good advice to give to someone who has to resort to watching this video. The rubber seals on most filters are about 1 centimeter thick, which turns into a very strong glue due to engine heat if no lube is applied prior to the installation of the new filter.
The idea seems effective but 50 bucks? Lol I’ll make that tool with 3 bolts, a nut and 1 minute of welding.
Title should read, "Most messy, dirty and longest way to remove a stubborn oil filter." How about a gripping tool that squeezes the outside of the filter? Google "Universal Oil Filter Wrench" looks like 3 jaws that ratchet and grip the edges tightly.
i buy this tool and make like the video shows!!
WHAT A MESS!! never stuck oil filter again!!! no more tools use hands only
and this is iron... not steel!! i bend it...
Nobody said this was going to be clean but if you drain the filter and let it drip for a while, it's a lot less of a mess. The method of opening the filter isn't an important part of this. The hole saw is just one method and not always the best. It depends on your situation. That is spelled out in the instructions.