I’m pretty sure the Kingmax GC0302 is not a Juki 1181N, rebadged. I’m pretty sure the 302 is rebadged from a Consew, and was probably a Seiko or something like before Consew. The body design looks descended from a Seiko, Mitsubishi, or Nakajima. The 1181 and 302 look quite different. I wish there was a brand and model family tree out there somewhere … it’s interesting and it likely matters in design and quality of parts.
this is the machine for the big girls! they play with REAL LEATHER! i'm not worthy yet!! lol!! *slink in the background with her measley Singer HD4411 and try to make a canvas tote bag* lol!
but on the serious side, this answers my question i was thinking about today, what are the machines with the most power in sewing? THESE ARE THE ONES! WOW! AMAZING! But, it reveals that there is a sewing machine built for every task that is needed which is great. i love sewing and i am so glad i got back into it. i am obsessed with it! i just like to get into research of this thing!
Hi Siah just wanted to say I have the Juki 1541 & use it for bag making & to make hair scrunchies. It can handle the thinner fabrics just use a smaller size needle. I use it for the lining for bags & haven't had any issues. So don't let that what they say about it not being good for bag making turn you away from the 1541. My juki 1541 is amazing I love it and wouldn't trade it for anything else. It's heavier duty but can do light duty as well. I have sewed satin hair scrunchies on this machine with no issues. Hope this helps..
I also use the Juki 1541s for bag making. Since my Juki 5550 is set up right next to the 1541 I use that for linings but the 1541 sews 8 oz canvas and lightweight cordura beautifully. Also, the 1541 is able to turn on a dime topstitching. I think it is a matter of what you become used to doing and not being fearful of trying everything. All these machines are amazing to work with.
Such a fabulous fabulous video! So needed. Really appreciate it and loved how he gave comparison to other brands and just not what he sold. Mark of a great company!!!!
Thank you Shiniah, for filming that. I sure wished I had seen it before I bought my Juki from Amazon. Now I am on my own when it comes to questions about anything. I hope the answer about the pressure on the walking foot is the same for my Juki. Going to check it now. I love your teaching.
Kassiah you definitely need a cylinder arm!!!! You will never regret it!!!!! I only have room for one industrial so I went with a cylinder arm with a flat bed table from Recent Relics Designs and is super easy to take off and put on
That was the best video ive seen in what machine is best for what you are making. I have watched so many videos and still left with so many questions. Thank you Siah, Jack and Vicki!You guys rock! I now know in confidence what machine to be looking at in next couple of years i will purchase and where from when my bags are selling enough to afford one. DId my first industrial on financing and wasnt the right machine for me, so i got a walking foot (mini) industrial to do my finishing work. ughhh but i now know what machine i need to avoid 2 off them and the sale of these 2 will help to afford my "Dream Machine". I love bag making but Kasiah you make it so much more helpful to learn and move forward. Thank you for all you do!
Thanks Kassiah, I’ve been really thinking about buying an industrial from Ralph’s as I live in Englewood, CO and love the idea of being able to take a machine in for service locally. It was very helpful to have Jack explain the different machines and all the “bells and whistles” on each machine! So informative - thanks for that!
I’m blessed to have both industrials, flatbed and cylinder they are a game changer in bag making. Thank you for a great tutorial and tour thru sewing machine heaven 🙏❤🙏❤
Best video ever!!! I live in Aurora, CO and bought the same Kingmax from Ralph's a little over a year ago. I love it and the people at Ralph's! I learned a lot, Kassiah, just from this short video and of course, from you and your videos!!! Thanks again and happy sewing to all!!! 😍
OMG! Loved this! So informative! I have been on the fence about purchasing an industrial machine for so so long! I've researched and delayed on the hefty investment. I think watching this segment has help me make up my mind. Thank you again....to both of you and don't forget the camera person! ❤
Brilliant video, wish I saw this before I bought a machine. I purchased a Seiko H-2BL-AE-1. I live in the country but I purchased it from the city which is a 5 hour drive. I was having a few issues and the technician from Elizabeth machines helped but it hasn't fixed the issues. It's hard when you have no idea what your doing and you have no one to help you if you have a problem. Thanks for the tips especially with oiling since the manual doesn't tell you where to oil it, and the marks left behind on the vinyl, and adjusting the nut. All these things that should be in your manual but aren't, cheers from Australia.
Oh,oh,oh, my daughter and son in law just moved to Denver last November. I live in Indiana. Close to Indianapolis. It's weird I been researching cylinder sewing machines. Mothers day is around the corner. Ok so is my daughter's birthday. Love your channel.
Fantastic video, Jack was very knowledgeable! Loved hearing about all the machines and their features. When I purchased my industrial I couldn’t walk over a zipper! Someone in the FB group told me about that adjustment on the back of the machine, and turns out that was exactly my problem, it was all the way down!! Now I keep it all the way up and it walks over things beautifully!
Funny I just found this video. I just bought the 1341 from Ralph's two days ago. People refuse to believe the fact that their all basically the same machines. Juki, Thor, Techsew, Tysew, Consew, Cobra, Kingmax and on and on. But, if want a service shop that'll service your machine, you better buy from the dealer that sells the machine. A local leather supply store told me I should buy a Cobra. I said "why? It's the same machine as the Kingmax, but who's going fix it if it's something I can't actually fix myself or even have the parts? I don't know of any Cobra repair shops around Denver." The only difference between a Cobra and the others is that they're painted brown. I actually like the brown and they're fine machines, but I'd never a Cobra unless I lived near Ontario, CA. Hint: if repair shop also sells vacuums, they most likely are not going to be able to service an industrial machine.
Wow, Kassiah, Fantastic video! Thank u, Jack, for all the great tips 👍🏻 I hv a juki 1541s & even though I love it, it does not like thin material like cotton or wpc. Thank u, Kassiah, for the great video
Such an informative video- I did not see what model the first machine is? Also wondering about the needle chart Jack mentioned? and maybe a thread chart too? Thanks so much
Thanks so much for this video! I’m in the market for an industrial and will be reaching out to this place soon! So excited to go from a semi-industrial to an industrial I can use for all types of materials and seam thicknesses.
Great video and SO informative!! I'd LOVE a cylinder arm and have been considering switching out my consew 206rb-5 for one! May go with a KingMax that you were looking at! Thanks for doing a video like this!!
I love listening to him talk. He says your machine is equivalent to my Juki Du1181n. I wish I knew what to do to my machine so i can sew bag linings. Your machine does it with ease. My juki will pull it together with it interfaced and waterproof canvas. I always say thinner fabric is breakfast for my juki. I move back and forth from my Bernina to my Juki. :0
Same problem when you live in Iowa and need help from them in Denver. ONLY drawback I have had so far. Also bought your model to sew leather was not told about the foot thing I may have bought the cylinder instead. I got no instructions except from Kassiah
Very informative video! I was assuming the Juki 1541s was the industrial that I would want to have but now I'm not sure about that one anymore. I definitely want something that can do linings too! How much does the arm one that you are considering cost?
I have a 1541S and can do linings that have interfacing, wpc easily. You just need to change needle, thread and possible tension. If you have a domestic you can use that for thin material. There’s pro/cons for both cylinder and flatbed. So much info out there lol.
This video was excellent! I would your personal opinion. I am considering the Juki that is equivalent to your machine, the 1181n. For all of the bags you make and maybe some light leather here and there, would you say 1181n or 1541s?
I'm looking for an industrial lockstitch and the fabrics i use range from denim to satin, i also make a lot of baby quilts in cotton. I never use leather or vinyl. Is there one high quality machine that could handle that range of fabrics? Sort of lightweight to medium but i would really need it to sew through three layers of denim because i repair and alter a lot of jeans.
Oh I’m not very familiar with all the machines, just really the one I own. I would say go into a store or call and ask some questions. They are usually very helpful!
started laughing when he mentioned a 57 chevy, that's what i call an old blue kenmore i have, 1st thought i had when i seen it in a thrift store was this is the same color as the 57 chevy that was around town years ago, the name just stuck when it came home with me lol
I'm working on a 1949 P3 Rover and want to make leather seat covers for it, seeing as I'm on a pension money is tight, & can't afford to get them made, not sure what machine to buy or rent one, Semco has a Jean's machine that they say will sew leather. Any ideas would be welcome.
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Kassiah!! This is the most amazing and informative video!!! Hopefully this helps dispell some rumours and helps people finally decide weather or not an industrial is right for them @craftwithbethany haha
I live in Austin Texas and we need more industrial sewing machine repair people
Send me industry sewing machine and I will repair myself.
This video is amazing. Thank you. I could listen to jack talk sewing machines forever. 😂
I’m pretty sure the Kingmax GC0302 is not a Juki 1181N, rebadged. I’m pretty sure the 302 is rebadged from a Consew, and was probably a Seiko or something like before Consew. The body design looks descended from a Seiko, Mitsubishi, or Nakajima. The 1181 and 302 look quite different. I wish there was a brand and model family tree out there somewhere … it’s interesting and it likely matters in design and quality of parts.
Thanks Jack and Vicki (and Kassiah) for the very educational tour!
this is the machine for the big girls! they play with REAL LEATHER! i'm not worthy yet!! lol!! *slink in the background with her measley Singer HD4411 and try to make a canvas tote bag* lol!
but on the serious side, this answers my question i was thinking about today, what are the machines with the most power in sewing? THESE ARE THE ONES! WOW! AMAZING! But, it reveals that there is a sewing machine built for every task that is needed which is great. i love sewing and i am so glad i got back into it. i am obsessed with it! i just like to get into research of this thing!
This nice gentleman sounds like Dick Van Dyke
I’m literally in tears because I learned how to hopefully fix the pressure on the foot of my Kingmax. Thank you, thank you, thank you ❤
You're very welcome! So happy for you!!
Hi Siah just wanted to say I have the Juki 1541 & use it for bag making & to make hair scrunchies. It can handle the thinner fabrics just use a smaller size needle. I use it for the lining for bags & haven't had any issues. So don't let that what they say about it not being good for bag making turn you away from the 1541. My juki 1541 is amazing I love it and wouldn't trade it for anything else. It's heavier duty but can do light duty as well. I have sewed satin hair scrunchies on this machine with no issues. Hope this helps..
I have a 1541s 2 and I sew bags no problems
I also use the Juki 1541s for bag making. Since my Juki 5550 is set up right next to the 1541 I use that for linings but the 1541 sews 8 oz canvas and lightweight cordura beautifully. Also, the 1541 is able to turn on a dime topstitching. I think it is a matter of what you become used to doing and not being fearful of trying everything. All these machines are amazing to work with.
What size needle do you use when sewing thinner?
Makes me miss living in Denver. Jack took care of me when I bought my machine there in 2012.
Yeah! Tell it Jack! tell the truth sweetie!! buy it DIRECT!!!
Such a fabulous fabulous video! So needed. Really appreciate it and loved how he gave comparison to other brands and just not what he sold. Mark of a great company!!!!
Glad it was helpful!
Loved the tour. Thanks for doing this.
Thank you for this! You are the best!
Wow, such a ton of great information. Wonderful, thank you for sharing.
So Happy to hear this is in Denver! I moved from there but Moving back!! I’ll definitely be going in!! Thank you for this video!
I love a “Siah in the wild” video! This was amazing! One day I will have room!
Fab could listen to Jack all day well done Kassiah 👏👏👏Xx
I know, I spent 3 hours listening to him!!
Thank you Shiniah, for filming that. I sure wished I had seen it before I bought my Juki from Amazon. Now I am on my own when it comes to questions about anything. I hope the answer about the pressure on the walking foot is the same for my Juki. Going to check it now. I love your teaching.
Kassiah you definitely need a cylinder arm!!!! You will never regret it!!!!! I only have room for one industrial so I went with a cylinder arm with a flat bed table from Recent Relics Designs and is super easy to take off and put on
Seems to be a great place with great people!
Such a fun field trip. Thanks Jack and Siah.
Wouah great video ! I have a Juki 1181 N bought here in Switzerland and have loved to see other machines !👌👌👌👌😉
That was the best video ive seen in what machine is best for what you are making. I have watched so many videos and still left with so many questions. Thank you Siah, Jack and Vicki!You guys rock! I now know in confidence what machine to be looking at in next couple of years i will purchase and where from when my bags are selling enough to afford one. DId my first industrial on financing and wasnt the right machine for me, so i got a walking foot (mini) industrial to do my finishing work. ughhh but i now know what machine i need to avoid 2 off them and the sale of these 2 will help to afford my "Dream Machine". I love bag making but Kasiah you make it so much more helpful to learn and move forward. Thank you for all you do!
Oh, thank you for this video!! I live in Cheyenne, WY and plan to go to Ralphs this week!!!
Thanks Kassiah, I’ve been really thinking about buying an industrial from Ralph’s as I live in Englewood, CO and love the idea of being able to take a machine in for service locally. It was very helpful to have Jack explain the different machines and all the “bells and whistles” on each machine! So informative - thanks for that!
Glad it was helpful! Mention me when you go to buy your machine... :)
I’m blessed to have both industrials, flatbed and cylinder they are a game changer in bag making. Thank you for a great tutorial and tour thru sewing machine heaven 🙏❤🙏❤
Our pleasure!
Thank You so much for all this great info
Oh wow. I have already learned two things I needed to know!
Best video ever!!! I live in Aurora, CO and bought the same Kingmax from Ralph's a little over a year ago. I love it and the people at Ralph's! I learned a lot, Kassiah, just from this short video and of course, from you and your videos!!! Thanks again and happy sewing to all!!! 😍
Thanks for sharing!
OMG! Loved this! So informative! I have been on the fence about purchasing an industrial machine for so so long! I've researched and delayed on the hefty investment. I think watching this segment has help me make up my mind. Thank you again....to both of you and don't forget the camera person! ❤
Wow, I'd love to have that cylinder arm! Thanks for the informative video!
Thank you for this! I really appreciate you asking helpful questions.
You are so welcome!
This was awesome! Learned so much!
Great video Kassiah and to you Jack…very educational AND that you do online training
Brilliant video, wish I saw this before I bought a machine. I purchased a Seiko H-2BL-AE-1. I live in the country but I purchased it from the city which is a 5 hour drive. I was having a few issues and the technician from Elizabeth machines helped but it hasn't fixed the issues. It's hard when you have no idea what your doing and you have no one to help you if you have a problem. Thanks for the tips especially with oiling since the manual doesn't tell you where to oil it, and the marks left behind on the vinyl, and adjusting the nut. All these things that should be in your manual but aren't, cheers from Australia.
Oh,oh,oh, my daughter and son in law just moved to Denver last November. I live in Indiana. Close to Indianapolis. It's weird I been researching cylinder sewing machines. Mothers day is around the corner. Ok so is my daughter's birthday. Love your channel.
Oh this is such a great video!!! Very helpful info. Wow……Thank you ☺️
Glad it was helpful!
Fantastic video, Jack was very knowledgeable! Loved hearing about all the machines and their features.
When I purchased my industrial I couldn’t walk over a zipper! Someone in the FB group told me about that adjustment on the back of the machine, and turns out that was exactly my problem, it was all the way down!!
Now I keep it all the way up and it walks over things beautifully!
I'm so excited to adjust mine!! LOL
This was a fantastic video!!!!
Love his mustache!
Thank you for doing this video!!!!! I love that he ships..... :)
Love those I wish I could afford one of those the best of the best thank you guys.
Our pleasure!
Funny I just found this video. I just bought the 1341 from Ralph's two days ago.
People refuse to believe the fact that their all basically the same machines. Juki, Thor, Techsew, Tysew, Consew, Cobra, Kingmax and on and on. But, if want a service shop that'll service your machine, you better buy from the dealer that sells the machine.
A local leather supply store told me I should buy a Cobra. I said "why? It's the same machine as the Kingmax, but who's going fix it if it's something I can't actually fix myself or even have the parts? I don't know of any Cobra repair shops around Denver." The only difference between a Cobra and the others is that they're painted brown. I actually like the brown and they're fine machines, but I'd never a Cobra unless I lived near Ontario, CA.
Hint: if repair shop also sells vacuums, they most likely are not going to be able to service an industrial machine.
I love him.
This really help . Thanks 👍
Wow, Kassiah, Fantastic video! Thank u, Jack, for all the great tips 👍🏻 I hv a juki 1541s & even though I love it, it does not like thin material like cotton or wpc. Thank u, Kassiah, for the great video
Glad you enjoyed it!
Take my money!
This was great, Kassiah! Very informative!
Glad it was helpful!
great place!! so many cool things!!!
Thank you 🤗
Such an informative video- I did not see what model the first machine is? Also wondering about the needle chart Jack mentioned? and maybe a thread chart too? Thanks so much
Following in your footsteps, I am at Ralph‘s today!!!
Make sure to mention me! 😊
I had to do a double take when you said "so if you're not in Denver" and was like :O I'm in Denver. I'm just seeing the waters about industrials tho.
Thanks so much for this video! I’m in the market for an industrial and will be reaching out to this place soon! So excited to go from a semi-industrial to an industrial I can use for all types of materials and seam thicknesses.
Glad it was helpful!
Great video and SO informative!! I'd LOVE a cylinder arm and have been considering switching out my consew 206rb-5 for one! May go with a KingMax that you were looking at! Thanks for doing a video like this!!
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for doing this! Have been thinking of getting an industrial machine!
You are so welcome!
I want the machine like yours. And/or maybe that cylinder machine too 😊😊
Great video thank you so much
You are so welcome!
Thanks for this amazing video. Please, share the chart with us too
i have a singer 320k free arm looks similar for a vintage machine has a nice stich
I love listening to him talk. He says your machine is equivalent to my Juki Du1181n. I wish I knew what to do to my machine so i can sew bag linings. Your machine does it with ease. My juki will pull it together with it interfaced and waterproof canvas. I always say thinner fabric is breakfast for my juki. I move back and forth from my Bernina to my Juki. :0
Same problem when you live in Iowa and need help from them in Denver. ONLY drawback I have had so far. Also bought your model to sew leather was not told about the foot thing I may have bought the cylinder instead. I got no instructions except from Kassiah
Do they have a Kingmax dealer in Southern CA? If I need my machines serviced, I prefer they are within driving distance.
No I don’t think so
good looking stache !
By any chance had you compared the sailrite fabricator to the machine you purchased? Trying to decide which machine to purchase.
No sorry I have not
Very informative video! I was assuming the Juki 1541s was the industrial that I would want to have but now I'm not sure about that one anymore. I definitely want something that can do linings too! How much does the arm one that you are considering cost?
Around $2200 I believe, give or take depending on customizationsl.
I have a 1541S and can do linings that have interfacing, wpc easily. You just need to change needle, thread and possible tension. If you have a domestic you can use that for thin material. There’s pro/cons for both cylinder and flatbed. So much info out there lol.
what thread do you recommend for kingmax GC and fabric bag making? Do you have a preference and who to buy from?
I recommend myself 😊. I sell bonded poly Tex 70 thread in lots of colors. Perfect for that machine . SiahSwagBags.com
This video was excellent! I would your personal opinion. I am considering the Juki that is equivalent to your machine, the 1181n. For all of the bags you make and maybe some light leather here and there, would you say 1181n or 1541s?
1181n would be my choice
I'm looking for an industrial lockstitch and the fabrics i use range from denim to satin, i also make a lot of baby quilts in cotton. I never use leather or vinyl. Is there one high quality machine that could handle that range of fabrics? Sort of lightweight to medium but i would really need it to sew through three layers of denim because i repair and alter a lot of jeans.
Oh I’m not very familiar with all the machines, just really the one I own. I would say go into a store or call and ask some questions. They are usually very helpful!
Why kind of camera mount is being used? Its noise is certainly annoying and distracting.
lol sorry just purchased a new one!! Next time will be so much better
Is that what you really got most from this video?
Can you tell me what kind of thread you are using with your machine to sew bags? Thank you.
I use bonded polyester Tex 70, I sell it on my website SiahSwagBags.com
How much is shipping to California? I’m interested in getting a cylinder arm too.
You would have to call the shop and ask.
Are there any cylinder arms that do heavy and light materials.
I am not sure
So did you get the cylinder arm, Kassiah?
Not YET.....
Did you get that cylinder arm?
Not yet, but I will be soon!!
started laughing when he mentioned a 57 chevy, that's what i call an old blue kenmore i have, 1st thought i had when i seen it in a thrift store was this is the same color as the 57 chevy that was around town years ago, the name just stuck when it came home with me lol
I have seen a cylinder arm that had a table made for it to convert it to a flat bed, and when the board is removed it is back to a cylinder arm
Yes that's what I have. I got mine from Recent Relic designs. She's amazing
The only question I have is How much does the 0302 cost? I cannot find a price anywhere. I can get a price on any other industrial but not a Kingmax.
I think it is priced around $1400
Hola . De donde eres?
Colorado
I'm working on a 1949 P3 Rover and want to make leather seat covers for it, seeing as I'm on a pension money is tight, & can't afford to get them made, not sure what machine to buy or rent one, Semco has a Jean's machine that they say will sew leather. Any ideas would be welcome.
I use a 19 my thread hardly ever breaks (bonded nylon Tex 70 thread)
Hi from Kiowa, CO! Sent email about machine info. Thanks
If this is the same as the Juki, why is your Kingmax so much quieter?? That has about sold me on Kingmax.
Lol I have no idea, but I think it sews way better than the Juki
Would they ship,to Canada?
You would have to call the shop and ask.
If you're in Canada, you may as well shop for a TechSew machine. Their cylinder arm model is the 4800 Pro.
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I am looking for help with this sewing machine and I will appreciate who can buy me this sewing machine.
You need a cylinder are machine. I have both
Oh I know it!!
Kassiah!! This is the most amazing and informative video!!! Hopefully this helps dispell some rumours and helps people finally decide weather or not an industrial is right for them @craftwithbethany haha
I know I learned so much going there too!!