if you go my previous comment, i do not remove the cutting from the pot once the green leaves developing. the cutting starts in a sandy soil so it can take root easily. once the green leaves showing, it still needs time for the rooting to develop. this is why there is no way to check the root is strong enough. i use the thick pint size pot with bottom hole for water drainage. when the buds turn to green leaves, it still not rooting, the leaves will eventually allow the root spout at few months. what i did, not to disturb the rooting process is to make holes at the bottom half of the pot before transplant to the ground with the pot. the root will eventually develop to penetrate the paper pot. that's why i use sandy soil so the root can develop easily. also the root will maintain its sandy soil environment when transplant. after transplanting, use root hormone dilute with water per instruction. i hope this solve your mystery why the cutting leaves fall off
Hi I’m in Bowie, Maryland . The way you described about the persimmons, I really love to have couple of those tree if possible. I don’t mind to pay for them. Not sure if you’re close to me, but open to driving to your desired location and get them. So far I bought 4 of them from reputed local nurseries but they never gave me any persimmon fruit Thanks in advance.
Can they be rooted by trying it in the fall? I just found some amazing trees I'm gonna go ahead and try it and if it fails I'll try again next spring. I've successfully roots grapes and figs from a fall cutting. Granted only a few rooted but they're noce new plants now. I can't believe I never knew about persimmons in NJ
And when I take cuttings I soak them under water with a little H2O2 (peroxide) to sterilize it just in case there' was any mold hitching a ride on the bark of the branches
you can do different methods by air root propagation. on a mature tree. find a suitable Y-branch, prefer a new branch coming off the matured branch. cut around the branch outer layer 2" in length. use a round plastic water bottle, cut it in half, cut off the neck, fill the bottle with wetted compose, tie the bottle very tight. wrap alum foil around it to keep out light and heat. the main branch will supply the nutrient as the rooting propagation takes place. it will take at least 6-10 months to see the roots sprouting when removing the alum foil. check frequently for rooting progress and cover each time. when the roots get thicker, you cut the end off the main branch at the Y junction. apply water at all times since the root is very tender. create a large ball shape compose of potato sackcloth or any thick cloth that will hold moisture. find a good drainage area to transplant the new plant. add root hormone to prevent root shock. persimmon tree requires frequent water. hope this will help those newbies. you can do this on other fruit trees as well.
Hi there just wondering how is persimmon cutting doing? Iv done mine and they are wrap in plastic my buds are opening up inside the bag should i leave it like that for a month because I planted it 7 days ago when I recieved the scions, its only been 7 days no sign of root but leaves are opening up
Ours leafed out, then dropped those leaves, and the ones that I think are rooting have buds again, so we will see when we pot them up this fall for putting out next spring
So, per the comments here, persimmon cuttings will not form roots. One must use persimmon cuttings only for grafting them onto another persimmon tree. 😊
Consensus among the pros is to use "coconut coir" some say 100% some say 50/50 with perlite. Key with cuttings is NOT to have fertilizer in mix as they can't absorb anything because no roots yet!
Fuyu persimmons are the best. I had a huge tree in the backyard of my childhood home that my grandparents planted. Each season, the tree would yield at least 50 persimmons. Sadly, we had to move and we didn't think of cutting any of the branches to replant. :(
Well more than likely the one your grandparents planted was grafted and if you took a cutting probably would not have survived. But you could’ve gotten a wild one which grows all over the East Coast and use that for the root system
I don't know if its possible to air layer. We have some that seem to be rooting, I'd say about 60% of them. Will update this fall when we pot them up for putting out next spring.
@@HighlandHedgehogHomestead If you can grow them from cuttings then air layering would be an even more successful method as the plants are connected and there is time for roots to form into the medium!
@@HighlandHedgehogHomestead I just discovered the pleasures of air layering last year. Now I'm shaking my head going ... "where have you been all my life?" and "Why didn't I try this before??".. This stuff is the easiest way to get great clones from mother-plants with the most success! It's so easy!
starting from seed takes forever. also you never know what type persimmon from the seed. once the cutting takes root, will take at least three years. following year will increase more, depends how you maintain it. do not allow water set in root area. should have proper drainage. use compose mixed with dirt 1 to 1. i uses cow manure already mixed with compose or chicken manure with 70% dirt 1% chicken manure. chicken manure can burn the root. i would not use chicken manure until matures 1 to 2 years old. i bought one that was just a a year old. takes another year for the plant to migrant to the new soil. the third year, few fruits. some years may get less bc the rain or lack of it. i did start many cutting from a mature tree. once the cutting is cut, keep it wet in a newspaper. i took a main branch and divide many cuttings that barely shown budding. cutting should be about 18" length. before insert into a sandy loom soil pot, use a stick to make hole to insert the cutting so the sand will not wipe off the aloe vera sap. smear the cutting 4-6" from the ground end with aloe vera. you can buy this plant leave in walmart garden/veggie section. do not disturb the cutting while waiting for the buds to develope with leaves. to avoid breaking the new rooting, best to start the cutting in a paper pot or pint size/qt styrofoam cup with holes at the bottom to allow water to drain off the pot.. when the green leaves showing, transplant the leaves cutting WITH the pot into the ground when the spring weather is warm. before putting the pot into the ground, make multiple holes around the pot side bottom half, this way you are not disturbing the rooting. the cutting rooting will work their ways into the outer pot as the plant gets more mature and taking hold to the outer surrounding. use root hormone with water once the cutting is transplanted. i live in northern calif great for persimmon growth. don't over water young plant and a good runoff. one extra precaution. persimmon roots running every which way, plant it away from the water pipe/sewage pipe. i would trim the top off branch to keep it manageable once reach maturative. persimmon can grow up to 10-15 feet. i will sell cutting once buds show on cutting. look for eBay under FIRESIDEVARIEITES if you interested in buying. not sure the price, depends on the competition.
This is very helpful. I have a fuyu tree and I'd like to root cutting it. Where do you place the container? Inside or outside home? Under shaded area or sunlight? Covered or uncovered? How do you keep them watered? Can I do the cutting now (late May in Florida)? Thanks
We placed these containers under a grow light in a heated basement until after last frost date. Since then they have been in a screened in southeast facing porch and receive some sunlight, but are covered. We water when soil feels dry. I would wait until dormancy for any cuttings, so winter.
i plant the cuttings with the pt/qt size paper pots inside the garage to keep it warm from cold weather at night. also wrapped in a plastic bag and tie with a string; after ten days, spray few drop water into the plastic wrap and close for another ten days. this is done when there are buds showing on the cutting. after a month, yellow leaves will develop. spray water into the bag and close it for ten more days. do not expose to sunlight or the leaves will break off. the root does not develop until the leaves spout from yellow to green. please read above comments so i won't have to repeat the detail on transplanting to the ground.
@@rtchow3000 Thanks for all the informations and suggestions. I appreciate it! Do you do what she does --- clean the bases of the cuttings with rubbing alcohol and sanitize all of your cutting tools? I'm just wondering if that is necessary.
@@grandwonder5858no and never heard this before. i cut 2"length around the outer layer of the branch, smear aloe or root hormone on the exposed area. uses a long screwdriver to make a large hole into the wetted compose, in a large quart-size container pot with holes for water drainage. large enough to insert the branch. you can try two branches per container, fill in the branch with wetted compose. place the plant into a garbage bag and tie the opening. this will keep the moisture within and keep warm. after ten-day, spray some water into the bag damping the compose but not drowning the plant. you can repeat every other day until the new leaves appear. do not transplant to the ground until large leaves grow. that's when the root begins to sprout. when the branch multiplies more leaves, and more water sprays into the bag. when the weather is warm, transplant to the ground that is well-drained. otherwise, it will cause root rot and die. The best time for root-cutting propagation is during Spring when the leaves grow. it takes at least ten months for the root propagation. i would leave it in the car garage next to the water heater during winter. i made a mistake transferring too early when the green leaves appeared, but the roots were barely showing. it's better just leave it in the pot for a good 1-2 years. remember to transplant where the sun is best and a lot of water on well drainage ground.
and make a Graft.! This is practically the best and only way to have this delicious fruit on your table soon. Also, my dear Lady, I also live on the East Coast in Connecticut and have several beautiful Persimmon trees which give me its Fruit every year without any problems!
They say there is a video showing it, but I don't see it anywhere. Unfortunately rooting persimmon cuttings is something people often claim, but don't show because it is not very (if ever) successful. Same with Pawpaws and a lot of nut trees...
If you are wondering how these cuttings faired the result was 0 success. The owner was unable to care for them and there was no rooting. Saved you 5 minutes
No surprise, since rooting persimmons is pretty close to impossible. People post these videos without showing results and talk about it as if it is a sure thing.
@@GardeningwithZiggy I totally agree. Based on what I experienced, it works on grapes, mulberry, plum, etc but not on persimmons. Mulberry (dwarf) tree is the easiest one to propagate. I made a lot of them before and was quite successful. Gave most of them away to friends and my wife's co-workers. They were so happy because the tree produces a lot of fruits similar to blackberries. Fruits were smaller and sweet.
So it has been 3 years now did any of the cuttings take?
1. What kind of compost you used?
2. What’s needs to be done after you put them in pot? In terms of care, watering etc.
I’m curious did you do this before how long does it take to route what month did you do it in and you have any rooted cuttings to show
I would like to see how many rooted. A follow up video
There is an update video in the play list uploaded more than 1 year ago.
if you go my previous comment, i do not remove the cutting from the pot once the green leaves developing. the cutting starts in a sandy soil so it can take root easily. once the green leaves showing, it still needs time for the rooting to develop. this is why there is no way to check the root is strong enough. i use the thick pint size pot with bottom hole for water drainage. when the buds turn to green leaves, it still not rooting, the leaves will eventually allow the root spout at few months. what i did, not to disturb the rooting process is to make holes at the bottom half of the pot before transplant to the ground with the pot. the root will eventually develop to penetrate the paper pot. that's why i use sandy soil so the root can develop easily. also the root will maintain its sandy soil environment when transplant. after transplanting, use root hormone dilute with water per instruction. i hope this solve your mystery why the cutting leaves fall off
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I'm trying to find your next update but to no avail... How did these turn out? Did they root well?
There is an update video in the play list uploaded more than 1 year ago.
Propagation of most fruit trees (except figs) generally have to be done by seed or grafting.
Hi I’m in Bowie, Maryland . The way you described about the persimmons, I really love to have couple of those tree if possible. I don’t mind to pay for them. Not sure if you’re close to me, but open to driving to your desired location and get them. So far I bought 4 of them from reputed local nurseries but they never gave me any persimmon fruit Thanks in advance.
Can they be rooted by trying it in the fall? I just found some amazing trees I'm gonna go ahead and try it and if it fails I'll try again next spring. I've successfully roots grapes and figs from a fall cutting. Granted only a few rooted but they're noce new plants now. I can't believe I never knew about persimmons in NJ
And when I take cuttings I soak them under water with a little H2O2 (peroxide) to sterilize it just in case there' was any mold hitching a ride on the bark of the branches
I’m going to ask a friend of mine if I can take some cuttings off his tree so I don’t have to buy any persimmon trees lol.
you can do different methods by air root propagation. on a mature tree. find a suitable Y-branch, prefer a new branch coming off the matured branch. cut around the branch outer layer 2" in length. use a round plastic water bottle, cut it in half, cut off the neck, fill the bottle with wetted compose, tie the bottle very tight. wrap alum foil around it to keep out light and heat. the main branch will supply the nutrient as the rooting propagation takes place. it will take at least 6-10 months to see the roots sprouting when removing the alum foil. check frequently for rooting progress and cover each time. when the roots get thicker, you cut the end off the main branch at the Y junction. apply water at all times since the root is very tender. create a large ball shape compose of potato sackcloth or any thick cloth that will hold moisture. find a good drainage area to transplant the new plant. add root hormone to prevent root shock. persimmon tree requires frequent water. hope this will help those newbies. you can do this on other fruit trees as well.
How did the cutting do? would love to see update/
There is an update video in the play list uploaded more than 1 year ago.
Spoiler…I checked the video. They all died.
Did it work?
Extremely difficult to root persimmon cuttings ,generally impossible without laboratory
When is it the best to do this? In the autumn? Or spring?
Winter, when nodes are dormant.
@@dangfob spring or early fall
Hi there just wondering how is persimmon cutting doing? Iv done mine and they are wrap in plastic my buds are opening up inside the bag should i leave it like that for a month because I planted it 7 days ago when I recieved the scions, its only been 7 days no sign of root but leaves are opening up
Ours leafed out, then dropped those leaves, and the ones that I think are rooting have buds again, so we will see when we pot them up this fall for putting out next spring
how did this turn out, was there any success? would love an update video!
in the spring we will have an update on the trees we planted when they leaf out, spring 2020. Thanks for your interest.
in the spring we will have an update on the trees we planted when they leaf out, spring 2020. Thanks for your interest.
Update is posted!
@@HighlandHedgehogHomestead Where is it posted?
So, per the comments here, persimmon cuttings will not form roots. One must use persimmon cuttings only for grafting them onto another persimmon tree. 😊
*please respond, Can you get there roots growing them in a Gro-Block?
Consensus among the pros is to use "coconut coir" some say 100% some say 50/50 with perlite. Key with cuttings is NOT to have fertilizer in mix as they can't absorb anything because no roots yet!
@@MrTea7 ohh ok thank you
Will this work with the hachiya astringent seedless varieties as well?
No. It doesn't work with these either.
Thank you.
You are pushing through the soil. That way your growth hormons will be superated from branch
Fuyu persimmons are the best. I had a huge tree in the backyard of my childhood home that my grandparents planted. Each season, the tree would yield at least 50 persimmons. Sadly, we had to move and we didn't think of cutting any of the branches to replant. :(
Well more than likely the one your grandparents planted was grafted and if you took a cutting probably would not have survived. But you could’ve gotten a wild one which grows all over the East Coast and use that for the root system
You can just buy a new fuyu tree for $50
Do you know if it's possible to air layer a persimmon? Did yours take?
I don't know if its possible to air layer. We have some that seem to be rooting, I'd say about 60% of them. Will update this fall when we pot them up for putting out next spring.
@@HighlandHedgehogHomestead If you can grow them from cuttings then air layering would be an even more successful method as the plants are connected and there is time for roots to form into the medium!
@@MasterKenfucius We will look into it for sure! We have a couple varieties we purchased for the orchard as bare root plants as well.
@@HighlandHedgehogHomestead I just discovered the pleasures of air layering last year. Now I'm shaking my head going ... "where have you been all my life?" and "Why didn't I try this before??".. This stuff is the easiest way to get great clones from mother-plants with the most success! It's so easy!
Air layering work on all fruit tree. Best on branches that are 1 plus year and do it spring.
Аre there any rooting results?
Update coming next week!
Nice old school Trader Joe’s sweater
Where can you buy the root tone? Great video
Here is a link for some powder form, you can find liquid as well. amzn.to/2uGxigB
I don't think she succeeded in rooting persimmons. They are very tough ones. I tried for 2 years and failed.
Hi, do you know how long does it take to fruit from the this rooting process?
starting from seed takes forever. also you never know what type persimmon from the seed. once the cutting takes root, will take at least three years. following year will increase more, depends how you maintain it. do not allow water set in root area. should have proper drainage. use compose mixed with dirt 1 to 1. i uses cow manure already mixed with compose or chicken manure with 70% dirt 1% chicken manure. chicken manure can burn the root. i would not use chicken manure until matures 1 to 2 years old. i bought one that was just a a year old. takes another year for the plant to migrant to the new soil. the third year, few fruits. some years may get less bc the rain or lack of it. i did start many cutting from a mature tree. once the cutting is cut, keep it wet in a newspaper. i took a main branch and divide many cuttings that barely shown budding. cutting should be about 18" length. before insert into a sandy loom soil pot, use a stick to make hole to insert the cutting so the sand will not wipe off the aloe vera sap. smear the cutting 4-6" from the ground end with aloe vera. you can buy this plant leave in walmart garden/veggie section. do not disturb the cutting while waiting for the buds to develope with leaves. to avoid breaking the new rooting, best to start the cutting in a paper pot or pint size/qt styrofoam cup with holes at the bottom to allow water to drain off the pot.. when the green leaves showing, transplant the leaves cutting WITH the pot into the ground when the spring weather is warm. before putting the pot into the ground, make multiple holes around the pot side bottom half, this way you are not disturbing the rooting. the cutting rooting will work their ways into the outer pot as the plant gets more mature and taking hold to the outer surrounding. use root hormone with water once the cutting is transplanted. i live in northern calif great for persimmon growth. don't over water young plant and a good runoff. one extra precaution. persimmon roots running every which way, plant it away from the water pipe/sewage pipe. i would trim the top off branch to keep it manageable once reach maturative. persimmon can grow up to 10-15 feet. i will sell cutting once buds show on cutting. look for eBay under FIRESIDEVARIEITES if you interested in buying. not sure the price, depends on the competition.
I forgot to mention the cutting is from the mature FUYU persimmon.
from seeds almost 8 years in Japan
Anyone have any success with air layering persimmons?
Please cut the music off so we can hear you
This is very helpful. I have a fuyu tree and I'd like to root cutting it. Where do you place the container? Inside or outside home? Under shaded area or sunlight? Covered or uncovered? How do you keep them watered? Can I do the cutting now (late May in Florida)? Thanks
We placed these containers under a grow light in a heated basement until after last frost date. Since then they have been in a screened in southeast facing porch and receive some sunlight, but are covered. We water when soil feels dry. I would wait until dormancy for any cuttings, so winter.
@@HighlandHedgehogHomestead Thank you. I will wait until winter then. Please keep us updated on how yours grow over the summer.
i plant the cuttings with the pt/qt size paper pots inside the garage to keep it warm from cold weather at night. also wrapped in a plastic bag and tie with a string; after ten days, spray few drop water into the plastic wrap and close for another ten days. this is done when there are buds showing on the cutting. after a month, yellow leaves will develop. spray water into the bag and close it for ten more days. do not expose to sunlight or the leaves will break off. the root does not develop until the leaves spout from yellow to green. please read above comments so i won't have to repeat the detail on transplanting to the ground.
@@rtchow3000 Thanks for all the informations and suggestions. I appreciate it! Do you do what she does --- clean the bases of the cuttings with rubbing alcohol and sanitize all of your cutting tools? I'm just wondering if that is necessary.
@@grandwonder5858no and never heard this before. i cut 2"length around the outer layer of the branch, smear aloe or root hormone on the exposed area. uses a long screwdriver to make a large hole into the wetted compose, in a large quart-size container pot with holes for water drainage. large enough to insert the branch. you can try two branches per container, fill in the branch with wetted compose. place the plant into a garbage bag and tie the opening. this will keep the moisture within and keep warm. after ten-day, spray some water into the bag damping the compose but not drowning the plant. you can repeat every other day until the new leaves appear. do not transplant to the ground until large leaves grow. that's when the root begins to sprout. when the branch multiplies more leaves, and more water sprays into the bag. when the weather is warm, transplant to the ground that is well-drained. otherwise, it will cause root rot and die. The best time for root-cutting propagation is during Spring when the leaves grow. it takes at least ten months for the root propagation. i would leave it in the car garage next to the water heater during winter. i made a mistake transferring too early when the green leaves appeared, but the roots were barely showing. it's better just leave it in the pot for a good 1-2 years. remember to transplant where the sun is best and a lot of water on well drainage ground.
and make a Graft.! This is practically the best and only way to have this delicious fruit on your table soon. Also, my dear Lady, I also live on the East Coast in Connecticut and have several beautiful Persimmon trees which give me its Fruit every year without any problems!
What was the result ?
Could you show us the roots coming out.
what is the success rate? I am sure not so good.
There is an update video in the play list uploaded more than 1 year ago.
Update please
We have some that seem to be rooting, I'd say about 60% of them. Will update this fall when we pot them up for putting out next spring.
What a load of it, they all failed didn't they.
Where is the result ?
They say there is a video showing it, but I don't see it anywhere. Unfortunately rooting persimmon cuttings is something people often claim, but don't show because it is not very (if ever) successful. Same with Pawpaws and a lot of nut trees...
Hi, update please. Where do you live? Do you make it inside the house? Don't you cover it with pastic bag? Thank you.
Update coming next week!
I'd say this lady lives in the Washington metropolitan area.
If you are wondering how these cuttings faired the result was 0 success. The owner was unable to care for them and there was no rooting.
Saved you 5 minutes
wheres the next one mashin likes
Update is posted!
they never show the root
There is an update video in the play list uploaded more than 1 year ago.
It all failed mate that is why she doesn't have one.
would you be so amazing and share 4 cuttings so i can try growing some trees...thanks
I tried it and it didn't work. I tried it on Tane Nashi and Fuyu persimmons.
No surprise, since rooting persimmons is pretty close to impossible. People post these videos without showing results and talk about it as if it is a sure thing.
@@GardeningwithZiggy I totally agree. Based on what I experienced, it works on grapes, mulberry, plum, etc but not on persimmons. Mulberry (dwarf) tree is the easiest one to propagate. I made a lot of them before and was quite successful. Gave most of them away to friends and my wife's co-workers. They were so happy because the tree produces a lot of fruits similar to blackberries. Fruits were smaller and sweet.
I will pay for shipping thanks
Did you get any root on any cuttings? Just tell us the truth, don't be embarrass dear!
check out the follow up video to see
Had to skip a lot to get to the point, but the results are not here
Tried to watch, the annoying music ( noise) drove me off !
Аre there any rooting results?
There is an update video in the play list uploaded more than 1 year ago.
@@HighlandHedgehogHomestead +