Drake vs. Kendrick Lamar (with Fantano)
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Who will win the battle between Drake & Kendrick? We'll be speaking about the battle and reacting to your takes with Anthony Fantano
Fantano: every diss doesn't need a big reveal
NFR: you right, but this diss didn't have a big reveal smh
also how are the feature request and cease & desist not big enough reveals for round one
That’s what I’m not understanding with the NFR crew. They want Kendrick to immediately go for the knockout blow when its just jabs right now😂
Summed this podcast up perfectly.
Bro I hating hear them talk
Nfr - there no nuke
Nfr-the story of Adonis
Nfr- took to long
Nfr-I wonder what drake meat feels like
“With Ether and No Vaseline everyone knew who won right away”
Everyone except these Canadians: wooooooo 1-0 Kendrick easily.
Your concept of Kendrick reusing angles is absurd. If someone called me fat but this other dude comes up and says it looks like I just shut down a baskin Robbins it just hits different lol. If you can make a point other people have made but say it in a way no one else could, it's a W bro. Just is
The fat jokes are gonna get old after a while and will be low hanging fruit
@@Sinister1008fat jokes are different then you a deadbeat dad homie, he didn’t say talk about the same things he twisted them, instead of saying reveal yo son, he talks about HOW he raises his son
The Pusha t bar was better when budden did it but that’s about it . Joe is also a way better punchline rapper than Kendrick tho so I can’t hold that against him .
Yeah but think about it, Kendrick was threatening Drake at the end of the track... he made it clear this wasn't his kill shot and yet still... He skated on this track better than most anyone ever could. The man took all the shit that's out there already and because of his delivery, writing style and tone it becomes a dozen missiles. If I were Drake I wouldn't want to hear his red button and if he replies, which I think he will, that button is getting pressed. I ain't heard someone call someone a deadbeat dad in that type of way. It cuts through the music and sounds like a condemnation of his soul. It sounded like real hate and disgust, not just an insult
they act like tupac was the first person to realize biggie was fat 💀
Ant be like "Not only that but at the end of the day you know, he opened up this can of worms if I'm being completely honest with you'
😂
Also the trojan horse and the village shit, it gets so old so fast 😂
They like the term “can of worms” a ton
😂😂😂
"let's say"
You would think the beef is between Kendrick Lamar and Pusha T with the way NFR keeps comparing the two’s diss tracks. Its weird how Drake’s diss only needs to be better than Kendrick’s to win, but Kendrick’s needs to be better than Pusha T’s lmao. Wild
That’s a fire take
There it is
Crazy for sure lol
🎯
And what’s even weirder is once Dot dropped the Pusha style nuke these guys were so shook they were saying they wanted a break from the beef and were wishing for Carti to drop. I still can’t believe that whole live they did yesterday. I guess they meant what they said cuz I haven’t seen them react to the latest Kendrick drop
Nfr-why didn’t Kendrick drop the nuke ?
Fantano -because that would probably cost him the battle
Nfr- yea but Kendrick didn’t drop the nuke so this isn’t that great
Nfr- we didn’t see a nuke
Nfr-what do you think drake meat feels like
😂😂😂😂😂😂
competent summary
Funny how everyone is calling Kendrick a racist for saying that Drake is not black enough, but Drake literally slid into Anthony Fantano’s DMs to insult him and his wife for being a biracial couple.
You might hurt yourself reaching like this
@@KINGSOP2000reaching? This is a literal fact, do your research before making yourself look like a fool.
lmao false. He said the only good thing about u is your wife is black.
@@KINGSOP2000 The screenshot is still literally on, look at it before saying something stupid
@@KINGSOP2000it’s not a reach it’s a known fact 😂
Not the biggest Fantano fan, but he schooled you both here. You’re out of your depth analysing this so far.
They have the knowledge of the genre, they're just sticking too tightly to their angles and not adapting their perspectives.
Difference between a music critic and rap fans
I have to question whether this podcast truly understands Hip Hop history. Pusha T was never going to end Drake's career with Story of Addidon. That diss track was strong and bruised Drake, but it was never going to damage Drake's aura. What CAN damage Drake's aura is breaking down how he's perceived. Similar to what 50 cent did to Ja Rule. Painting Drake as a culture vulture who never grew up in the black community, suggesting his rap persona is acting, his apparent disdain for women like Rihanna, Megan the Stallion, etc. Kendrick's angle was to take down the very essence of how we see Drake. That is Hip Hop.
its too late for that my friend. genre is way too big for all of that, fans knew drake has a weird relationship with children and nothing happens??? i dont think words can hurt his aura atp
@@Daniel-oz6qu Drake will always be a star. But if his sales dip just a little, or more people in the industry change their view of him, that does affect him long term. Drake needs the culture to accept him in order to truly be crowned in Hip Hop and Kendrick might be in the way.
Bingo
@FredySwag123 very very true point. he hasnt came up against anyone like kendrick head to head. ive never been so excited abt this shit dawg 😭
But y'all are missing the point, these guys are saying those angles have been taken by other rappers already, Dot might have had some clever lines and ways of representing it but the core hip-hop do believe Drake to be a culture vulture and all his other antics.
Does fantano just stand all day?
This is the best comment🙌
did Fantano record this livestream on a potato?
No he is siting
@@markn7519that cannot be sitting
He sits in the reviews
Lu is way too emotionally invested in this beef. Dude looks like he’s on the verge of crying half the time, what’s up with that
There’s no way it’s just this beef dude is clearly going through something
Maybe because of what the chat was saying
Probably because y’all stressed him out.
@@hopegolden3442yep I feel that I personally thought when I subbed to the channel he was a fan of all three rappers but the fandom is starting to show.
@@intelligencecycle3523 then they say we are dick riding for picking this up. He should quit the lies and fully come out as an OVO. There is no shame in that.
The only way i think Kendrick could end Drake's career for good is if the cover of his next diss track is a photo of Drake getting backshots from Diddy
Ain't no coming back from that
😆😆😆😆
God damn bro how does your mind work
Drake is one of the most popular artists ever. His career isn’t “ending” no matter what
If you think the lgbtq won’t come out and embrace Drake you crazy. He’ll be more popular if the music is good. He’ll be the best gay rapper ever 😂
neither of their careers will end. they’re too big. maybe in 2011 something coulda been shut down
Fantano presented some excellent points and angles that I never thought about. You can tell he is a student of hiphop.
IDK man, “Euphoria” is actually really catchy…I’ve been listening to it every day and I really didn’t expect that…it bangs and might be a sleeper hit.
Its on repeat for me and i havent heard a single song off mr morale so to say i am no kendrick meat rider
its not a sleeper, NFR just low key Drake Meatriders
@@tcgggggdefinitely listen to that record
@@Pixelkip i dead was planning to now
@@jedidefence Kenny is literally ants favorite artist.
Everyone knows Drake is responding. Not a single person in that live chat said Drake was finished and couldn’t possibly come back. All the chat wanted was an unbiased review and an in-depth breakdown of the diss. I’m pretty sure the chat was upset because you all:
1. Rushed through lines and called parts "filler.”
2. Talked about how Kendrick didn’t meet your expectations while you’re only reviewing surface-level bars.
3. Down played the impact of the diss.
4. Then, Lu went out of his way to offend the chat by telling us to clip him, saying that Drake would win before he even did his due diligence as a critic and finished Kendrick’s track.
It feels like you’re trying to use your platform to influence the outcome of the battle and tilt it in Drake's favor.
(edit)
I removed the last part because I don’t aim to be mean, just critique.
They're cheesin', fam
@@MCRaw-qf4tu they’re just after the loonie and toonie fam
you’re spot on with this. When they reviewed push ups, they gassed it up and were talkign about how it is only jabs so they didn’t expect a knockout blow. But when they reviewed Euphoria, they rished and were expecting big things in round one.
They just love their corny little cupcake too much 😂
0:35 “Doors are open to all the OVhoes” bro welcoming himself and his brethren 💀💀💀💀
😂😂😂😂
Finally we have a non Drake stan on here
We need another stream with LosPollos 😅
DRAKE SMOKES KENDRICK 🚬
Why does NFR seem emotionally invested? Whereas Fantano is handling this all from a logical cerebral point of view? Just odd and makes them seem a bit biased for whatever reason.
Rabid emotional fans
Lu boldy predicted Drake to win on yesterday’s live stream before he fully listened to kdots diss. It’s been all out war since.
Labels make payments that’s why
Honestly, save for a few moments Fantano made some great points. You can tell the NFR guys are less experienced when it comes to this sort of discussion
Yeah but they became better
Only Lou. Fantano and Ant carried
Lu seemed off, I hope he’s okay
Prob leaving the show
@@hopegolden3442he doesn’t like hearing negative stuff about Aubrey
Love how Lu opened saying “all Kendrick meat riders” but doesn’t wanna admit he a Drake meat rider.
All I ask is give the same energy to both artists. When Euphoria was released they played it down saying he said nothing new. Yet we’re hyped and talking up Drake’s Push Ups when majority of the song rapped about Kendrick’s height, as if Kendrick being short is shocking and damaging.
Both tracks are good. Liked Push Ups, but really liked Euphoria. I have Kendrick winning but it’s close competitive battle. Hip hop fans are the true winners.
Lu is a bigger Kendrick fan than Drake fan.
i mean he did also say OV-Hoes
He also had so many disses that weren't reused at all, and every reused one he attacked from a different angle than Pusha T, Rick Ross, etc.
Lu is disappointed. He really expected a career destroyer. That's it. Don't invent things
@@alfredopernillacante9585 This isn't necessarily directed at you but, if Pusha T couldn't destroy Drake's career, nobody can. There's nothing that Kendrick could say to make Drake fans not like Drake. Jay-Z's well respected after Ether, Biggie's still respected after Hit Em Up. Those are some of the best diss tracks of all time and they didn't destroy anybody's career.
euphoria already has more streams than push ups, Dot is beating Drake on his own game.
Yeah I said this recently, Drake has the grasp of 80% of entry level rap fans, yet 80% of those rap fans are still siding with Kendrick. It’s a total blowout
So the streaming discussion is not argument for drake, but for kendrick is… ok
@@mattiacurto4863 tbh couldn't care less. quality > quantity. it's just funny to see how a 6 minute song outstreams the most streamed artist of all time.
Euphoria was available on steam services I’m pretty sure the day after it’s release while Push ups was available a few days and maybe even a week after it’s release so the numbers aren’t accurate because people mostly listened to Pushups on UA-cam.
that can certainly be the case, but we're talking two days versus a week.
I personally think it’s because euphoria has more replay value.
Fantano saved this pod today because a lot of us were close to unsubscribing because of the lack of fair commentary and analysis from these two especially Lou. It was becoming ridiculous
How was it a lack of fair commentary they both said that Kendrick was their favorite rapper and he was winning the battle they just didn’t think euphoria was a kill shot just because they have a different opinion than you doesn’t mean they are dick riding drake
Nah. You along with other Kendrick stans just want to glaze Kendrick for every single word he says. They were being unbiased. And still said Kendrick is in the lead. Y’all gotta stop it
@@Malik-lo6zd and no sensible Kendrick or neutral fan ever said it was a kill shot, and if any they shouldn’t be taken seriously because that’s just crazy. But the way they were going over bars as compared to when they were doing Push ups was notable, worse off when there wasn’t even much in it, and i can understand Canada being clowned and mentioned got them into their feels, it was showing on the last two updates especially the first one. And it was a let down for us who have supported them since for their consistent fair analysis overtime.
@@J.Garcia824 no one is glazing anything but they were notably going over bars dismissing a lot of things and Lou was emotional the whole time. And this is not about who wins, but any in-depth unbiased analysis like what Fantana was doing even if he admitted his slight bias towards Kendrick. He was dissecting things a bit further and thats what we are here for.
@@cheflee6362 I see what you’re saying. But they still overall are being as fair as they can. Certain bars just went over their head. But still have him props and the lead. Kendrick for sure is in the lead. But it’s not as big of a lead as his stans want to think. That’s what I think they really are getting at
The Whole Drake “making” Kendrick cause he took him on tour is the most annoying rhetoric I’m hearing in all of this. After section 80, the industry couldn’t stop talking about Kendrick, he had plenty of motion Before the tour and I’d argue had a bigger name than Cole although he hadn’t had a major label debut yet. Kendrick was doing fine. So was Rocky. Only people who weren’t paying attention to either of them don’t know they were already doing great for themselves. Does it not occur to them that Drake reached out to them BECAUSE they were making noise??
IF drake got Kendrick his record deal with DR. DRE then I would give it some merit but he had nothing to do with it at all.
Everytime I hear Lu talking in this video he sounds the more emotionally involved and I wonder why?
Well drake is his husband so Ofc he gotta defend him
@Mindonicon he is a bigger fan of Kendrick to be honest, but this is the most emotionally invested I have ever seen him
he looks like he's about to lose it, he can't handle this beef thing
Whew. So it wasn't just me then?? Lol
Yikes
@@okuhle1711
Homeboy hurting these days fr. Been catching Ls left and right
He's stuttering more than ever. I've watched and supported this channel for years. Brother is emotional
Also, NFR, theres plenty of new info. Drake cease and desist against Like that. Drake asked dot for a feature. Also, just drake straight lying about dots family issues and problems with TDE.
Also New Angle: Drake being a canadian culture vulture, taking african american music and experiences for profit. I know you are canadian but talk about that.
Euphoria WAS NEVER meant to be a killshot, you dont allow people dealing in extremes to dictate narratives.
Euphoria was enough to beat Pushups and Taylor Made. Round 1 dot cleared TWO DISSES.
Round 2- drake HAS to focus on dot and if it's not a BOMB or better than Euphoria then dot can either just ignore it or drop something that can clear that. And then it's dot up 2-0.
Aubrey is in a bad position rn bc itll seem like it's over for Dot BUT the round isnt over until after dot goes again. And dots second round will rebuttal everything AGAIN lol
These are the advantages of winning the coin toss.
Honestly great conversation between you three. People thought Fantano would rip into you for not messing with Euphoria like that (pun not intended) but I'm glad that the conversation was more philosophical... Incredible time to be a fan of hip-hop!
It is indeed an incredible time to be a hip-hop fan... much love for the kind words.
@@NFRPodcastwhy are you holding back tears Lu it’s okay you can talk to me, its gonna be okay don’t worry drake is gonna be okay.
@@NFRPodcasthey just some words of affirmation. i promise drake will be okay!!! sleep well and eat good you will get better
@@mrb-btwat least we all know it’s all jokes
@@mrb-btwBro stop 😭😭
NFR glazing drake so hard. They'd kill someone for a drake Louis belt smh
ironic, glazing is thrown around without context, since technically fantano would be also “glazing” kendrick… just learn to view both sides lol
@@javiqn Anthony is clearly unbiased and objective as seen throughout the video. You're buggin fam
Goddamn it! What the hell does everyone have against Drake? What is it? What did Drake do that was so bad?!
@@Vazo999 you are crazy if you think he is unbiased, go check out abt drake or kanye review with fantano in it… anyways im talking about using the word glaze wrong, just saying it makes it seem ironic because yall technically doing the same as them, just defending your favorite artist
@@Vazo999he literally has the same opinion that NFR was flamed for: it is not the killing shot
Nfr are clearly being biased then covering it up with the "Kendrick is our favorite artist" or "He is in the lead FOR NOW"
Not listening to anything Lu has to say about this beef from now on.
You are the problem
This. This right here. This is the reason why this community is such a toxic environment. Lu says ONE thing you don’t agree with and then a bunch of people like you attack him for it. You’re part of the problem.
Lowkey yeah man he’s just biased fr
@@anthonycollins2383^^^^
@@tewstronge9173it’s ok for people do be biased to Kendrick but not Drake? Let’s Stop the motherfucking dick eating and just enjoy it for what it is
Honestly, just the fact that every conversation about drakes writing has to include the disclaimer 'or his ghostwriters' is wild. Like drake can win this over kendrick, but it doesn't change that he can never be THE guy in hip hop because his pen is invalidated.
The narrative that Kendrick Lamar ducked Big K.R.I.T. is a bit disingenuous. In his quote on quote diss song he literally says Kendrick didn’t diss him and he wasn’t bothered by Control just the conversations that spurred from it. So why would Kendrick even respond to that 💀
As a big Big B.R.I.T. fan this shit is crazy to me lol.
"WHY DIDN"T KENDRICK RESPOND TO THE GUY HE SAID HE WASN'T EVEN DISSED ON"
These people are more interested in this beef looking like a TMZ segment rather than who has the better pen… when your frame of reference for rap beef is Pusha T’s song it just shows how ignorant these people are about the wider culture. Nothing new has been said is the biggest criticism they have but Kendrick didn’t have to bring up anything new he placed Drake in the context he moves in and called him out for it while responding to Drake’s diss. Drake doesn’t respond to the disses that have been said by others so Kendrick is putting the ball in his court. If someone calls you a shitty dad it won’t feel any better the next time someone does again.
Lastly, Kendrick mentions him getting robbed, slapped by Puff, that Drake asked him for a feature that he turned down, and that he tried to cease and desist Like That. Trying to cease and desist a diss record is plenty new info and if that shit happened in the 90s this beef would’ve been over.
This is facts. I’ve been saying I don’t know everything about Drake, while some of the information might be out there, there is some of the stuff mentioned that as a listener myself I didn’t already know. That puts him in the scope for Kendrick moving with the fake/phony angle.
“tmz segment” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. foreal though, they lame af ngl.
You need to remember that April 30th is children’s day… “euphoria”, “pacifying”, “not real women”, does it ring a bell? It was part of the plan, adding another layer to all these references. The date on its own is part of the message.
“The drake meat rider podcast”
58:29 Bro STOP with the “Kendrick took too long to respond” nonsense, Drake took ages to respond to the original shots from Like That. And like Kendrick said, he has kids to raise and doesn’t have ghost writers to lean on lmao
So y would he even say something like he said on like that???
Has kids to raise 😂😂 Tier 1 Kenny glazers, Drake got a kid too. He even was on tour as like that released lol
bUt hE waS oN toUr 😂
Drake waited for the second album to drop and it was a day or 2 after and a week later till it was official on Spotify. Then Kendrick waited to drop after Taylor swift 💀
@@andrewojeda250and drake said he waited to drop cuz of T Swift too? like how you gonna call out K Dot, when you a bitch too?
The Live chat went wild on this one 😭💀
DRAKE SMOKES KENDRICK
@@iteal6484 bro thinks this is the live chat
@@iteal6484bro the live ended
@@Mindonicon my bad
How so?
I think Melon’s maybe missed the take when it comes to the Joel Hale Osteen bar. The problem with reading crowdsourced lyrics off Genius is that they aren’t always 100, and as I write this they still haven’t been corrected to “Joel Hale Osteen” which is clearly the lyric. It’s on UA-cam, if you don’t catch it put it on 0.5x if you have to. It seems unlikely that a guy who Drake himself was making fun of for quintuple entendres, who likely spent the last two weeks putting together this track where half the bars have multiple meanings, would goof and unintentionally portmanteau “Joel Osteen” and “Haley Joel Osment”. I’m not saying it’s impossible, but highly unlikely. I’m also not saying that it’s a god-level lyric, but it makes very little sense that it would be an unintentional goof.
I think Melon’s a bit chapped since he’s catching flak after baking his take into his vid on the subject.
Whatever the case, I hope Drake comes back like fire so that this game keeps going. It’d be sad if euphoria was the end of it. I wanna hear what round 3 will sound like.
Damn, a LOT of Drake meat riders in the comments.... it's 1-0 Kendrick rn boys, accept it.
You’re meat riding Kendrick
Man ngl everyone is shitting on drake 😢
Push ups was 50 percent about Kendrick ... Euphoria was 100 percent about Drake tho is that a fair round
@DjVtheJESUSsouja Taylor made freestyle was 100% about Kendrick, so for me Push Ups + that competes with Euphoria for round 1.
@@antoniosvasilellisneto379Taylor made was ass cheeks
Drake absolutely will respond and then we will get one more Kendrick track and it will be attached to a full project calling it now.
Update: I was wrong 🤣
Agreed
I pray for this
I would be disappointed by this. Not saying it's not going to happen, but I just want to see the battle flesh out without an album being attached
Still praying we get The Heart Part 6 as a diss
This would be so corny. Using a beef to promote an album would be so out of character for Kendrick. This is for the sport, not for vanity. Kendrick just a W hater.
NFR literally said at one point early on in this beef that they want Kendrick to lose, because “they’re tired of him wearing the crown.” That’s such bad reasoning
No way that’s crazy. Could you possibly remember the video?
@@LushesBlushes it’s definitely one of the earlier videos covering the beef. If you’re patient and wanna look through them you’ll find it. It could possibly be the one where they ask about when/if Kendrick will respond to Push Ups, but I’m not 100% sure. I have a weird memory bank where I can remember perfectly when something was said, but not the context surrounding it. You know how some people have a photographic memory? I have an auditory memory where I never forget what something was spoken, but not necessarily the context surrounding it. It’s weird, I know 😂
@@HappyAccidentVideos hmm, I’ve never heard it put like that but it kinda resonates lol I’ll clip it if I find it
How they saying he took too long to respond when he took less days than Drake took to respond to like that (?)
Neeks
Regarding the length of time Kendrick took...
Drake took almost a month to respond to Kendrick and Kendrick took 17 days to come back.... so C'mon now.
During the Nas & Jay beef,
Nas released Ether in December after Jay had released in September.
Drake took 22 days, Kendrick took 17. And Drake was on tour at that time. Kendrick the one who ignited it, it should follow that he’s more prepped for a response than Drake.
@@wait_in_gold_ON_SPOTIFY Not the brightest bulb in the bunch I take it? Lol
That sheit that Drake already had on standby? It has already been discussed that he had that AND ANOTHER ONE that goes super below the belt, that others have heard. Surely your nut-hugging hasn't made you fact adverse?? ;)
And Kendrick didn't start it.
Check again.
@@wait_in_gold_ON_SPOTIFY
Nah, spending time with your family is a way more valid excuse than being on tour
@@supereero9it wouldn’t matter cause people would still be like “he scared to respond” even if he wasn’t on tour and actually spending time with his fam.
@@supereero9not to mention drake uses ghost writers AND ai.
Lu so high on copium I hope he gets his life together
It took Drake 22 days to respond and Kendrick did it in 17 but people grew more concerned Kendrick who did it quicker , probably because Drake keeps engaged on social media while Kendrick goes radio silent
Lol you a bit slow if you think that wasn't a strategic move... someone who was really struggling to respond was Kendrick...and to prove my point you will witness Drake responding faster than 17 days...and then witness Kendrick take his time AGAIN...
@@MightyBajanice prediction but the kendrick song will still be better
@@MightyBajamaybe drake should take time!!!
So nice of you to get the input of smaller music enthusiasts
Stop being a fukin baby
Everytime Lu looks directly at the camera i feel second hand embarrassment
Whew..... mayun!
Felt embarrassment practically evey time these dudes spoke.
The Drake stan in him is becoming more and more hard to hide 😂
“I feel like if drake drops a bombshell in his response, Kendrick can’t respond” what a nothing burger of a statement
Loooved to hear your, especially Fantanos thoughts on this. Istg the conversation and strategy around it all is my favourite part of this so far. Good shit, thanks guys 💯❤
It's interesting. They bring up this point of Kendrick portraying himself as some sort of moral leader or as holier than thou, but wasn't his whole last album refuting that exact sentiment? "I'm not your savior"? He doesn't want us to see him that way, so I don't know how that could be an angle for Drake to take.
Also, the thought that Kendrick started this...Drake himself said this started a long time ago. Doesn't help when Drake is on stage taunting Kendrick as well.
Excited to see what Drake says regardless tho
Y’all say he didn’t reveal anything new so what? Dismissal of a fact doesn’t negate the fact it’s a fact. Everybody who disses Ross says he’s a CO and he’s fat. Y’all eat that up EVERYTIME even tho we already know that. So why it’s different when Kendrick and Ross do the same to drake 🤔
So many of their takes were so Supremely off-base that it was beyOnd ridiculous to the point of Embarrassment.
Could say the same thing if you replaced Ross with Kanye (Kanye crazy) for more affect
It’s the most obvious grasping-at-straws reach of an argument. They really couldn’t realistically disavow or attack anything Kendrick did with a pretty near perfect diss track so they’re embarrassingly resulting to the most bad faith argument possible bc the same things they are complaining about with Kdot they are drastically overlooking with Drizzy. Like no one knew Kendrick was short before Drake said it? It’s the dumbest argument ever and is really unbecoming of a channel I used to actually like. They are so clearly letting their Canadian pride blind them to an unbiased approach and it’s so deep rooted that I don’t even think they realize it. They’ve convinced themselves that their stance is reasonable. Clown shit. Kendrick mocking Canadians really got under their skin and you can tell.
Drake was the first one to say that he had some things to reveal, so why didn't HE?? He decided to "tease" some secrets first but somehow this is all turned onto Kendrick? Lol
And who made these Tools Hio Hops aficionados?? These are The Worst types.
49:20 you have to realize Kendrick responded to 3 different tracks with Euphoria.
Even if Cole pulled out, 7 Minute Drill was still pushed out.
Push Ups was not directly aimed at Kendrick but was primarily attacks on Kendrick while taking jabs at others.
Taylor Made Freestyle was the Kendrick Diss in my opinion. I think people undermine the disrespect Drake threw at Kendrick. Taylor Made uses an AI Tupac and Snoop who are making fun of Kendrick and the west coast.
Euphoria was Kendrick’s response to all three.
great point
One advantage Drake has, after the beef is done, is that we never needed to buy into Drake’s persona. We’ve been saying the same shit about him for the past ten years, longer even. From the minute he popped up in the mainstream, we’ve questioned his authenticity, his masculinity, his racial identity, his soft image and sensitivity. As a fan myself, I’ve always felt a ton of his raps are cap, in Push Ups as well. But if he speaks his speech well enough, we keep listening.
I’m more worried about J. Cole tbh. My GOAT can’t go out this way. His own fans making diss tracks against him now 😢
Like That > FPS
Euphoria > Pushups & Taylor Made
It’s 2-0 Kendrick
Nahhhhh
Glazing
@@slimeslimeslime can you explain your option in a rational way with intelligence or you are just a meat rider?
@@Jiiggy-dn8fd now it is
@@Jiiggy-dn8fd s m d
Realistically, the outcome doesnt matter. Drake is still going to make hits for the masses, making millions, while not being respected by the Hip-hop community and Kendrick is going to make great albums with actual legacy.
Drake is in the Michael Jackson, Beyonce, Taylor swift conversation. A popstar.
Kendrick in the Nas, Jayz, Biggie, Pac conversation. GOAT talk.
Kendrick performed at the super bowl first, Drake has nothing on him other than making fun of his height
The career destroy thing never was in the conversation. Ppl still don't understand this. Even if you'll be destroyed by your oponent this only will be pr for you. Nothing much than that.
@@omribrahimli1510exactly. New heads always think something is a “War” when it’s a “Battle”. Big difference
Implies that Michael ain’t the GOAT
What a dumb comment Jesus christ
Smh love fantano, appreciate someone for being honest and non biased for both sides.
I love to see my fav UA-camrs coming together. Fun time for Hip Hop.
These NFR dudes dont know anything about rap before Drake. Rap beefs been happening forever and yeah its not TMZ
Drake is canadian lol
Two of the biggest trolling fanbases collide
HIVEMIND better
I NEED a Fantano, NFR and LosPollosTV conversation about Drake.
1:01:35 wasn't the whole point of Mr Morale and the crown of thorns pointing out the fact that he's not perfect? "I am not your savior"
Can drake respond so we get the heart part 6 ft. Millie bobby brown and Child Protective Services
The thing that Push revealed and Kendrick has the opportunity to fully drive home is that Drake is not a hip-hop star. He's a pop star who does some rap and features rappers, but he's not hip-hop. Kendrick and Push can't possibly ruin Drake's career unless Drake does something so monumentally stupid that somehow loses his pop audience, but Kendrick can finally kill this idea that Drake belongs anywhere near the "top x rappers" discussion. You can be a pop country singer, or you can be a pop rock band, or you can do pop electronica. But you cannot be a pop star who does hip-hop, because hip-hop requires you to reject pop to some degree. Em may be the largest selling rapper of all time, but at no point can you ever say that he sacrificed his hip-hop authenticity in order to achieve his fame
Actually you can . Relapse “flopped” and he came back with pop beats and pop stars , sappy hooks all in hopes of maintaining some relevancy . Em is a prime example of someone sacrificing authenticity for fame and success .
@@Manuel_Chinaski I mean, maybe a little bit? I think that's more to do with him just being in a weird place in his personal life more than anything. I don't get the impression that Eminem even pays attention enough to know what's popping at any given time cause he seems permanently stuck in 2001
Yeah but relapse is considered one of his best albums within the eminem fanbase. Bad analogy. I wouldnt even say it flopped considering numerous songs on the project where on billboard.@@Manuel_Chinaski
34:10 what new angles? He said in the song he doesn’t have time to try and find dirt on rappers. Also ether didn’t have any ground breaking info on jay z but it’s still considered a classic diss song .
Something a lot of people don’t seem to remember is that the only reason story of Adidon was an automatic W is because Drake bowed out the very next day. Had he responded we would’ve viewed that exchange differently
What people are failing to realize is that euphoria is literally a warning shot or “friendly fade”
DAMN! Kung fu Kenny have just dropped another bang. He is in his dragon motion.
These dudes definitely biased towards drake. Anthony can at least keep it unbiased.
i think one diss drake should leave alone is the restaurant bar, kendrick’s saying he’s hanging out where drake got robbed at and he’s chillin in canada with no problems
Kendrick will win this if he releases an AI track with Drakes mom hyping him up
Bro 😭
There was no “big reveal” in “hit ‘em up” by Pac. The Faith thing was known. It’s how you handle the battle.
This was a great philosophical discussion that covered so many angles to this beef. Can't say enough kind things. You three guys are kings at this shit.
“Kendrick is our favourite rapper of all time” 🧢🧢
I find no reason to do the whole boxing/round analogy for this beef, especially since there’s no consensus on what a round even is. My view is that the first one to drop a track that doesn’t one up the last in some way loses
This was a great watch. I think all 3 of you did a good job breaking this topic down and giving your input.
Na nfr was just saying the same thing over and over
There wasn't a lot of new angles on Euphoria? Not everyone knew about drake EPing euphoria, the 300k sa payoff, the connection to takeoff situation, the name of drakes cat... so many little details that drake and hiphop heads will pick up on even if casuals dont.
Just drake fans trying to rationalize another L
Live chat was crazy😂
I swear some of y'all got spoiled by that the Pusha T situation. You don't have to always unpack new information or go at different angles all the time. It's an effective method for sure don't get me wrong, but it's not required. In any form of battle rap, what's most important is using the content that you can collect and how you utilise it to make creative and hard hitting bars. That's what Kendrick did. Sure, he used common talking points surrounding Drake but was able to still craft and great, effective and hard hitting response that gets the job done. Same could be said about a lot of great diss tracks over the years and even battle rap in general. (even Push Ups which I also think was a solid track)
Dude’s questioning story of adidon for being just a tmz song but a minute earlier talked about defamation of character which is what that track did.
Now they need a new video again
Someone said Joyner writting a response in Addonis' perception😂😂
LMAO
Fantano dropped alot of gems as far as insights musically.
He had to make up for his terrible vultures review
@@CrashGeorgeacootfor not wanting to review Kanye’s music because Kanye is objectively a horrible person? I don’t think that’s completely unfair
@rohanbaste-bania6227 wouldn't you say x is an objectively horrible person? He still reviewed his albums did he not.
To me kendrick is an artist that cares about puttingv out a quality product. Drake is a pop star that only cares about sales and his status on Spotify.
Great convo 💯
I mean if we’re being honest this battle isn’t even going to come down to who is a better lyricist bar for bar it’s going to come down to who has the most impactful dirt on one another which is kind of lame 🤣🤷🏻♂️
Ever since pusha completely bodied Drake now it’s about who has more tea to spill. 🤌🏾🤌🏾🤦🏽♂️
I like nfr but i hear hints of bias. Kendrick went hard. I think kendrick got this round my opinion.
Big ups fantano for those perspectives!
There's no way this stream couldn't go 24 hours without Kendrick dropping a second diss 😂😂
Just wanna say in battlerap, they reuse angles, angles get old and angles get refurbished frfr, asking him to take new angles isnt fair because that is showing his hand... And if the atom bomb ties to everything Kendrick touched on then it's just a set up for the killshot
NFR say they like Kendrick more but 95% of their points are in favour of Drake and are underselling Kendrick. They also deflecting heaps, they seem a bit entrenched.
I've seen this a lot i think its a propaganda technique. I'm a Lib but I hate the democrats kind of thing
The haircut is working for NFR Anthony
Love your show and I enjoy all your videos. You should check out the Euphoria breakdown that Quake from Diverse Mentality did though, amazing dive in and analysis - so many things that most people did not pick up from that song 🤯 Much love ❤️🙏🏼
Kendrick literally says I’m not your savior 😂😂😂 the crown piece while being flashy but that was the point….
THIS IS ART
maybe pusha T gave kendrick the next few layers of surgical summer lol
If people watch battle rap and url battles, their has been plenty years of reusing angles but it's about how you flip or execute the angle
Brought Fantano in, made yall boys act right. 🤣
You can kind of tell what kind of person each individual is through this conversation
What’s your opinion of each person
yes, judge a person's whole character based off a hip hop analysis video, take a break from the internet lil bro and interact with live humans.
@@CookiemonroJoinTheCookieright this dude is a lost sheep
@@CookiemonroJoinTheCookieits not that deep
@@Daniel-oz6qu idk it irks me when people precast judgement on internet personalities like they know em like that. It ain't deep at all I'm just calling bro out for saying some stupid ass shit.
At the end of the day, these are still two white Canadians regardless how many times they say Kendrick is their favorite rapper
These guys show that anybody can start their own music podcast. They have basic taste, and basic takes. Fantano is still the best when it comes to reviewing and whatnot
I do not understand the argument about kendrick having this image of being a fanastic morally perfect person with a clean plate. He has never tried to be that. He has always showed himself as a flawed and conflicted person. Listen to these walls. Listen to the art of peer presure, maad city, whole me morale album, u, how much a dollar cost, for sale and Way more songs.
1:48 "You like your girls 11, not 10, that's some stranger things" 😶