DRAKE vs KENDRICK: Our Experts Dissect The Rap Battle of The Century (Ep. 1)
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- Опубліковано 4 чер 2024
- Breaking down Drake vs. Kendrick, why they are beefing, how this battle started, why it got so messy and where it’s going to go in the near future. With our pannel Elliott Wilson, Jeremy Hecht & DJ Hed.
Topics:
Why are Kendrick and Drake beefing
What sparked this battle?
Why does everybody hate Drake right now?
Do you need receipts in rap battle
How did Kendrick Lamar’s control verse affect Drake
Can Drake win this battle?
What caused this rap beef to be so messy?
Is there a line in rap beef?
Timecodes:
0:00 - drake vs. kendrick battle
1:00 - how we got here
6:00 - why this battle got personal
10:00 - meeting your hero
11:00 - why Kendrick hasn’t dropped much music
13:00 - the impact of Kendrick’s Control verse
15:00 - Kendrick is so calculated
17:30 - To Pimp A Butterfly
20:00 - Drake - Family Matters
21:00 - First Person Shooter - Drake & J. Cole
30:00 - what does Pusha T think of Drake vs. Kendrick
40:00 - DJ Akademiks role in Drake vs. Kendrick
45:00 - Tupac and Snoop AI and West Coast offended
55:00 - Instagram antics
58:00 - we don’t trust you album 20 v 1
1:02:00 - Elliott’s beef with Drake
1:03:00 - Like That
1:09:00 - The Culture vs. Drake
1:20:00 - did drake and kendrick have to get personal?
Panel:
Elliott Wilson
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Jeremy Hecht
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DJ Hed
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Directed & Produced by Steve Vasquez Jr.
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Edited by Clifton “CT” Tate
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Camera Operators:
Jordan Saint-Pierre
Clifton “CT” Tate
Technical Assistant & Operations by Alex Vasallo
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Sound Engineered by Avery Kentis
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Production & Artist Relations by Elise Ricks
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Graphic Design by JR Martinez
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Produced by Steve Bramucci
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Executive Produced by Jarret Myer
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#kendricklamar #drake #thebiggerpicture
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Editor's note: This was recorded a few hours before Drake dropped The Heart Part 6.
Top 10
Kendrick
Wayne
J Cole
Biggie
Ludacris
Nas
Chris Webby
Futuristic
Joyner Lucas
Eminem
@@arkdakingJoyner over em is crazy
Man I just ain't a fan of em he's great and amazing with the craft which why he make my list at all I have to put him there@@FIGHT-R
@@FIGHT-Rhaving Biggie 4th with just 2 albums is crazy IMO, but you can't tell people what to think or how to feel, lol
@@WarrenF19I agree with you. I'm 30 so pac and biggie was gone already but I just like when biggie be banging. And pac is the master lyricist great writer I just don't relate as well
"Kendrick Kendrick Kendrick... How easily you have fallen into my trap. Now everybody thinks I'm a pedo and a deadbeat dad, just like I planned!"
This reads like a hip hop scooby doo episode 😂😂🙏🏿
😂😂😂😂
Shxt don’t make sense at all 😂 but real ones know Drake didn’t like that up he jus try to bounce back with that bullshxt which makes it even crazier
*laughs in canadian*
I know bro😂😂...he already admitted his clip is empty and waved the white flag..Dot abt to bleed him fr on the next joint
The industry doesn't want Kendrick to win. The Culture Knows He Won.
Who's We 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nice try.
Don't get it confused it's not the culture that doesn't want kendrick to win it's the industry that doesn't want him to win.
@@jacobl.s.9467it appears that you’re not like us😂
No the culture wants Kendrick to win!! Haven’t seen that many black people go against Kendrick!! Ni99as hate Drake frl
UMG don't want him to win
What no one mentions is that Aub mentioned Whitney first, but Dot showed mercy by warning him. Aubrey doubled down bc he lacks not only credible information but also the capacity for critical thought.
Wrong
@@Top3Cityyour mom is getting a train ran on her by OVO. whatever drake is paying you, i’ll double it, it’s not worth giving drake e-fellatio
FACTS
Exactly. And that “Hi Whitney” snippet song that leaked wasn’t no damn AI like Drake told Akademiks that it was.
Big facts. Drake was acting like a bully at first
Dj Hed needs to be a regular voice in hip hop media.
I agree
Yes. I agree, too.
Hed knows WAYYYYYYY more than he’s saying. Way more.
He’s trying to keep hip hop alive. In every sense of the term.
We'll ask him next time what we knew lol
Elliot is more cooked than I thought. I'm embarrassed for him. A hip hip discourse show while wearing a drake jacket is crazy work.
To be fair you need opposite sides for a good conversation it doesn’t make sense to have 2 people on the same side talking it would be boring its good to have a nice opinions on both sides
… and steadily giggling like a bitch 😂😂😂
It was over before it began. How do people not realize that Kendrick is on a whole different level from PDrizzy lyrically and intellectually? Toronto has love for Kendrick. Drizzy is a singer and an actor who reads lines really well, but KDot writes novels and spits fire🔥
Also, Common didn’t lose to PDrizzy! It was another L for Drake. He’s a Legend who can lyrically body Drizzle any day.
@@streamer6654Exactly, Elliott Wilson was smocking crack with that shit
Look at the calm of DJ hed and the talkativeness of Elliott Wilson 😂 one tryna convince, the other knows
This isn’t a battle of Kendrick vs drake. This is a battle of hip hop vs cultural appropriations. Drake is the face of cultural appropriation. This is what DJ Hed is saying. If you swimming in the shallow end of the pool, you won’t get that.
Completely disagree
@@TheKidwonda that’s cool.
🤝🏿
Facts
Silly take
Kdot called out Elliot's name cause everyone knows that he be glazing Drake. Calling a man that had ghostwriters the #1 rapper smh
DJ Hed knows something we don’t.
🤔
Yea he do..
@@lovelyla85just think
Nah, DJ Hed definitely shot at Ak with that “I’m a DJ in real life” line
This BATTLE IS LITERALLY HIP HOPS SOUL VS ITS POCKETS
That's a romantic way of looking at it. If only we could actually work together to actualize what you're saying.
You right🤝🏿
@@joshuacolon3893 it’s being actualized right in front of us. Drake progressively represents the invasive species in the ecosystem.
Great statement.
Dot has Drake by the ropes. Heart pt 6 was desperation. Which writer thought it was a good idea to put on wax that "I'm too famous..." or "I don't look at teenagers" when both can be proven false.
damn kdot fans are the flat earthers of rap ahahahahah because he is famous it will exposed one day or long time ago like pdiddy or rkelly and many victims speaking up years already. kdotstans are really something else :D the wifebeater should deny the allegations, but he cant because its a known fact.
Facts
I got the video of Drake kissing a 12 year old on stage, he rubbed her down like tiger on deer or Tyga on Kartrashian Jenner, or Drake on Kartrashian Jenner, weirdo 1LLUM1NAT1 gang gang
Broke his soul
Tbh I feel The Heart was his best comeback. He plays into the master manipulator angle claiming to manipulate Kendrick and his team. If Drake did actually put false information out I give him 2 Ws for the Heart 6…leaving the score at 4-2 with Kendrick in the lead 😅
The point about drakes lack of awareness and wherewithal is spot on
Kendricks is the embodiment of hip hop. He is the clear WINNER 🏆 Drake is just a better hit maker. Hip hop is not in Drake's blood, and you can clearly see it in this beef.
Exactly. When am in the club I need more Drake, when I need hip-hop it's Kenny on
We all hoping this is kendricks hit era. He always wanted to make meaningful shit. Anti pedo banger is insane.
He cleared his demons, cut the head off his enemies, certified boogeyman time.
Man yall ninjas crazy. Im neutral but drake came in the game on some str8 rap shit. He became a hit maker soon after but dont cap n say he aint of the culture. Thats just some biased subjective bs
@@ralphortiz8195I agree my G
@ralphortiz8195 He collecting rap artifacts like the British museum. He way too into little girls and it's crazy to defend that. Fuck him.
You wanna why he quiet and bitched out already? Because none of his writers got shit and told him it's over.
There's a difference between sales/skills
There's a difference between pop/hip-hop
There's levels to this.
Pop literally just means popular music so technically all the rappers that sell a lot are pop artists
@@AndrewB23True, BUT there's a difference between the intention coming into the record. Are you approaching it to make some real hip hop or are you trying go appeal to as most people as possible. The more personalized a song is the more it's going to be off putting to people who aren't ready to go there themselves. Like OP said, there's levels to it
@@SailorMidnone of these artist are TRYING to make hip hop music. They’re rap artist that makes songs and sell records
@@issdeonlilchannel this is such a bad take. Yes he raps and sells records, but It's a reason Dot got the Pulitzer. To pimp a Butterfly is a masterpiece. Good kiid maad city is a hood classic. And Damn is the big commercial success but still true hip hop. The heart 5, after we lost Nip, that was therapeutic for the culture. Drake is the performing artist thats selling an image and records
There’s a difference between metaphors and real rap
DJ Hed is menacing. His poise makes me scared for Drake and I don't even care for him 😅
LMAO
This is true. What he said on Ak’s stream at the end? All the lineage talk and more? Drake should never respond. It’s ok.
Elliott learn to let your guest speak. Stop distracting their takes. DJ Hed is a very interesting speaker. I wish you’d let him elaborate more his points.
How'd the white guy moderator have more understanding for why this beef escalated than Elliot Wilson?
"Do you listen to music or do you skim through it".
As a native New Yorker, born and raised: I gotta give DJ Hed all the props in the world for being so articulate and patient with his explanations to Elliot here and Akademiks in the other video. I’m surprised these two have such a platform without just getting it. Cuz it really is deeper than most seem to realize, from both a Cultural perspective and a pure Hip Hop perspective.
It’s always been difficult as someone who really loves this shit to see how many ppl consider drake “hip hop” after growing up on Tribe, Wu, Kweli, Big L, Pun, Pac, Cube, DMX, etc. so I’m glad Kendrick been airing him out. That Pac shit was so out of line and bringing family into it (like he always does) really took shit to a place it didn’t need to go.
Always had Nas, Big, Wayne and 3K as my personal GOATs but Kendrick definitely shot up to the top of that list this week. 💯💯
Kendrick Lamar 🙏🏾
DJ Hed is COOKING 🧑🍳
Excess giggling is pissing me off, OG is talking real shit and middle guy is just laughing
He a zesty outsider
It’s AWFUL. I was wondering if I was the only one
Because he D riding
They’re both silly and unserious
Seeing Kendrick deflate two of Drake’s song drops and then break a stream record. Seeing Drake songs get booed in the club, and women doing cookout line-dances to Not Like Us….. yeah, Drake got Meek Mill’d.
People try to make it seem like Drake is so much bigger than Kendrick, and this is all just a momentary support. Bro, Mr. Morale broke streaming records. First album in history to break that threshold. And the Mr. Morale tour is the most successful rap tour Ever. He is a massive cultural force. Drake underestimated that himself. Since the beginning. And it came back to bite him.
No it didn’t break any streaming record at all stop lying
Because people where waiting because he was Mia so duh he got the streams but sold less than a lot of other rapper and now his streams are song about drake so it’s because of drake I’m just glad we got to hear Kendrick again he finna dipp for five years again
@@minz9422 u fr just quoted drakes last song how does his meat taste crodie? 🤣
Drakes all a blur tour is the most successful go check
Drake tripled that in his north America tour he grossed over 300 mill,still yet to do Europe,there worlds apart and it's not even close
Elliots laugh is one of the worse sounds of human life… and he always has to laugh at the worst moments
Or any moment
Drake went from saying 'drop drop drop' to 'I don't wanna diss you anymore' ☠️
I was just thinking about this..hope he learned something about this
Dude DJ Hed is legit. He was there since back in the dayyyyyys before Q even joined TDE. I like his take - Kendrick won, and its still not over
How can yall respect a rapper who doesn’t write his own raps?
The line was personal family shit.
Kendrick gave warning.
Drake stepped on it. Uncultured.
That's why he lost to Pusha T.
That's why he loses to Kendrick in Annihilation Mode.
K. Didn't say anything beside speculation nothing he said hold weight it was a therapy session
Man, let's be real. Dot knew it was up when he dropped Like That. We all did
@@oarabilemoloi2732why does Drizzy's THE HEART 6 sound tired?
Hed is a breath of fresh air man
Drake spoiled the beef by doing the Dexter ending. He ran out of steam. Dude needs to go to rehab then Oprah's sofa
waved that white flag for sure
all those writers he got and he give up smh 🤦🏾
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL exactly!!! drake was moving like the fed was listening in his latest
KENDRICK >>>>>>>>> drake
You’re clearly not paying attention then. It was a set up.
And Kendrick’s songs aren’t good at all. People are just hype on the beef
@@Top3City YOU’RE not paying attention. They didn’t feed Kendrick anything… of course they are going to say that. When you’re exposed, you’re going to do whatever you can to make people think whatever was said is not true. And lyrically, Kendrick is a better rapper. PERIOD.
DJ Hed’s patience was on full display. Round of applause for waiting on this much tardiness
“I dont think he has the ware withal to know how serious this is” couldn’t have said it better my man. Homie really thought
B-sharp was a real musical note.
That’s crazy. B-sharp is C natural
I took it literally and culturally.
Not to be that guy, but B# is a real musical note in the sense that in the context of keys like C# major, you would use B#(not c natural) to describe the 7th note in the major scale. Same with E#. Enharmonically, they’re the same as C and F though
West Coast perspectives are so different I fucking love it. It's amazing blunt honesty and Realness. It's what made me love pac 💯
We all like that. It’s the Pacific Ocean water lol
@@LBDRE it's so solid and respectable 💯
It's cause of how militant the street politics are out here.
The 20 v 1 is an excuse for Drake to not have to fight Kendrick 1 on 1 the rest are not opponents
Yep, that's why keeps addressing other people
Drake:"I'm no p-do, I'm too rich for that."
Rich child predators:"yeaaah, tell them Drake!"
I watched Silence of The Lambs right before Meet The Grahams dropped and it made me think of how Hannibal psychologically dissected Clarice and how that’s what Kendrick did to Drake on that song and used Alchemist to get that MOBB DEEP/Prodigy production sound,it made me see Kendrick like Hannibal,no matter how smart you may be you can’t match wits with him.
For me the difference between Kendrick and Drake is Kendrick lives the Culture,West Coast culture,black culture,hiphop culture and Drake appropriates culture just like he did to the artists in Toronto.
This whole time Kendrick has been hovering over the multiverse in his Death Star waiting to unleash the Empire and he did it.
He’s like Kylo,Sidious,Dooku,Griveous and Lord Vader all in one person.
Also i haven’t seen anyone else point this out but didn’t Kendrick challenge him to an on screen in person rap battle at the end of euphoria? When he said we can do this on camera? That would have truly shown what’s what right?
Salute DJ Hed he def represented himself well
WestCoast.
This was super fun to be a part of! Watching CRWN interviews growing up to think I would be on a stage with Elliott talking about Drake and Kendrick battling is surreal but here we are! Excited for more
I don’t see how Drake thinks that diss track was It… I don’t understand WT* he is talking bout. It’s more of a conversation with his attorney and ghost writers on damage control.
Like..
Right!!!
It was him arguing with the internet
ELLIOT WILSON LAUGHS LIKE A LITTLE GIRL FOR JAY-Z AND DRAKE
I had to stop listening to the podcast because of him.
@@imVuurzy it gets worse in his old JAY-Z interview, thats when i first noticed it, JAY-Z has a little girl laugh too now that i think about it
It’s so annoying
@@TJHatter in his old Drake and JAY-Z interviews, its even more cringe, he be beatn his meat to Drake singing and JAY-Z female high pitch voice
He’s a fan and wants to work with them.
Wondering why it's a shock that Drake isn't skilled enough to rap spar with Lamar?
The standards have fallen, mainstream rap isn’t about bars or skill and as far as I’m concerned, it’s the producers doing 80% of the work
Everything DJ Hed said was 100% true. Great show! West Coast!
Drake is Milli Vanilli and Kendrick is a real artist. This should not even be a battle because Drake has ghostwriters.
Dj Hed.....was cooking....😂🙌🏽🙌🏽💪🏽💪🏽🎯🎯🎯🎯💯
Elliot is showing he doesn’t understand WEST COAST culture with his questions about “salaciousness”. If you diss any person other than that direct person, consider yourself DOA. Lol
He a FAN, He a FAN, He a FAN 😂😂
Freaky Ass 🥷
That narrative around Common is crazy. Stay Schemin vs Sweet.. bruh…Common did his thing and then starred in a bunch of movies and TV series. Ain’t nobody run Common out of rapping lol. He was already in his 20th Year professionally. He battled Drake for Fun lol
Common is and has been washed for 15 years 🤣🤣🤣
@@jacobl.s.9467you a Drake groupie and that's Nast work if you not zesty 😂😂😂
He batted and crushed Drake
Common bodies PDrizzy lyrically any day. He’s a Legend who didn’t even need to respond to ghost written nonsense (but did, and smoked Drizzle).
Exactly! That's a crazy take by these guys. Common is a legend and easily took him out. No ghostwriter
Elliot Wilson is such a Drake Stan lol
He did not make common retire fuck outta here with your little girl laugh 😂 actually common working on an album with Pete rock
Common is lyrically dominant over P Drizzy any day!
He didn't write that shit man! This is crazy watching Elliot and dude cap like that after we all watch Aubrey get his head popped in a crowded room and throw in the white towel, all the whole not showing any of his work. The boy went out like a sucka
It's not over brother.... 9pm est - 6/6/24 ... Kendrick loves Numberology - 2+4= 6
6/6/6 ..... The perfect time to drop on the 69 god
Agreed. He got the nerve to wear a Dodgers hat with that stance. Damn shame
I don’t like how drizzler gets the last word. KDot should really put that nail in the coffin
KDot should finish him immediately.
Do you think he'll reply today? Also "drizzler" is wild lol
@@hiphopdx P. DRIZZY what they call HIM 😂😂😂😂😂
@drizzler 😂😂😂
Why does he need to respond. Drake sounded defeated. 4 tracks to drakes pretty much drake 2, but knowing Kdot hes not gonna let up 😂
If Drake could bar him up… he would have!!! Elliot on one
Too bad we never seen him do just that but wave the white flag I guess 🤷🏾♂️
I got mad respect for Drake for holding his own and that battle is the best ever to me; but Kendrick won. I don’t care about the daughter thing because the way Kendrick weaved the themes together from “Euphoria” through “Not Like Us”, and how he stepped on Drakes moment by dropping “Meet the Grahams” in TEN MINUTES of “Family Matters” release, was genius. Drake used to knock Kendrick for not dropping enough and conceded because Kendrick was droppin’ too much. Drake’s joints was all hard, he was floating with the bars, and he 100% stamped as a great, but he not on Kendrick level in terms of creativity.
Real question, if you find out Kendrick is lying about Drake being a pedo and having a daughter just for battle rap bars are you actually going to dismiss that just because it was masterfully put together? Not looking for an argument or a debate just a genuine question.
I got Kendrick winning as well, I just think considering the Diddy thing and all the serious allegations that were presented by Kendrick that this needs to be addressed accordingly, not even on some Hip Hop shit but some real life shit you know?
Bs. Drake is a pop star. Drake isn’t on Kendrick’s level as far as talent, skill, ability, critical thinking, and creativity.
DRAKE FOLDED, KENDRICK WON 🏆
He had no choice
DJ Hed hit it on the head about the Culture
The Alchemist production 🙌
Insane
I thought Meg was the first this year to do a public jab at Drake?
Kendrick. Gemini Gang ♊
Gemini gang going strong right now
♊ gang!!.....we feel the need to "even" the score
Y'all two headed weirdos!! Love y'all though 😂
We Never Lose
Dj Hed told no lies. I think he did a great job breaking it down. I think the only time Drake should’ve brought out actual rap was during a rap battle, he can’t say he has it just isn’t using it when he needs to be using it. I also agree on the culture aspect. It has nothing to do with him being mixed, it has to do with culture which I respect. Also saying just because you are from ny means you have to side with some Canadian is not it. 😭😭
Put them both in a booth drop a beat & have them freestyle live. No ghost writers, no blackberry, & no help.
People can memorize lines. How bout give them objects or things to rap about live.
Drake can't do a head to head. He's not built like that. He's a pop artist.
Lmao no blackberry, that freestyle was cringe af
@@keshawestmoreland5535 that’s where I had an issue with guys from the start you have pop guys/podcast trying to judge bars on if it’s an hit & not judging on bars.
The younger ones don't know about that blackberry tho haha
OG GOTTA Control his laughter. Red Lining the shit out of my ears.
otherwise great video
Somewhere on DJ Heds tombstone, the word “wherewithal” will show up.
First time watching Elliot’s show…his giggle when supporting his Drake arguments is a gross ‘pick me vibe’. First time hearing of the DJ dude…although he is clearly a Kendrick supporter, his arguments are well thought out and objective. Anybody still STRONGLY supporting Drake at this point is in such deep denial and delusion that they may need a therapist and meds. Kendrick has OUT classed Drake. Admit that and move on. Drake is a solid bopper. Kendrick is an undisputed rap culture artist. Stop it.
Thank you!
Drake is an entertainer that raps....kendrick is a rapper. He as an entertainer, got into a RAP beef with a RAPPER that ...can actually rap...and has a current fan base...unlike pusha t. He has to RAP...if he cant continue to entertain. The only way he can come out on top entertaining.. is if he drop a million dollar production a short film or something.
ELLIOT move the damn microphone away when you start laughing ! i gotta keep turning the volume down lol sheeeesh
Elliot bruh change that laugh.. u too grown for that dawg!
P. DRIZZY WHAT THEY CALL HIM 😂😂😂🥶🥶🥶
Wdym
@@sonoshee444 iykyk
Drake gets buddy buddy for his own purposes it’s never personal it’s only business for him to level up his agenda.
This was Kendrick's point on Not Like Us
I think the ghostwriters wrapped it up with Drake after Family Matters. Drake’s white flag record he released yesterday was so weak and contradictory. He didn’t even sound believable. He can still make records and people will listen, unless suddenly there’s a raid.
Kendrick at the top 🔝 😭🔥🔥🔥
Hip hop commodity (intrinsic) = Drake
Hip hop as an Art = (extrinsic) Kendrick
We all appreciate both. They can both exist at the same time. Airing all of these allegations in the public sphere really allowed me to see where people stand with their morals/values
Separate the wheat from the tares…
That giggling Elliot is doing so annoying 😡😡
This conversation/interview started off so well...
Elliot... top yapper. Let them speak bro.
Kendrick is a rapper. Drake is a wrapper. Huge difference...
Drake got murdered period you can’t have 20 writers and let this happen to you he’s done in the aspects of real art he’s a great performer and that’s it
drake has writers he shouldnt be in no competition with bars lol
I wish Dj Hed would be able to speak more without being interrupted by laughs
Djhed only conscious person here. Middle guy instigates, Elliot contradicts his questions…🤷🏽♂️
Kendrick needs to stay on his neck so there will be no debate 5-10 years from now.
Is this gonna be a permanent podcast? I sure hope so. The three of you together makes for great conversation and debate. This YN reinvention is a winner.
Kendrick goes years without dropping.. yes.. but so does Adele.. and Lauryn Hill.. and Jaszmine Sullivan.. etc.. etc.. and we LOVE THEM.. the dopest artists take the longest breaks
I enjoyed DJHED perspective.
Yep he is very smart…. Thinks before he speaks.. WESTCOAST!!!
DJ Hed: “… I was talking about groceries” is SENDING me rn 😂
DJ Hed says he’s not a mouthpiece for Kendrick’s camp. But he’s excellent at doing so.
I don’t have that time stamp, but when he’s talking about Drake not having the wherewithal he says, “I talk to a lot of people… women”. He don’t finish that point, but we know where he was going with it
With Drake being the number one artist in hip hop and representing the genre, he has permanently changed the landscape of hip hop. Most casual HIP HOP fans, and no longer just solely fans of popular music, don’t care about lyricism and the intricacies which hip hop is founded on. Stuff like, sampling, homages to legacy hip hop acts and incorporating sounds of Soul, Funk, Jazz, R&B and at times Rock & Roll, which are further homages to genres that have contributed to the creation of hip hop. It’s harder for an artist like Kendrick to exist. So I think this in large part is where Kendrick’s beef lies. Drake is capitalizing off of the status he’s built in hip and his pop appeal to receive mass critical acclaim. He’s made himself bigger at the expense of the genre. Hip Hop has always been centered around dance and made for a younger demographic, but it’s turned solely into that since the 2010s with the exception of underground artists. I’m a big Drake fan and I think it’s cool that fans across the globe know about Hip Hop way more because of an artist like him. But the issue, which Kendrick’s mentioned too many times, is that the genre has lost respect as a legitimate art form over years because of it being reduced to just l club records over a good beat.
So well said
Casual HipHop fans are Pop Fans. HipHop has been commercial long before Drake. HipHop was global way before Drake Family. DMX EM JA 50 JAY Nelly Luda PAC etc etc were global with their records. Not to mention a guy named KANYE. Drake has been manufactured successful run. It’s not that he’s not talented but it’s been clear for a decade that THE MACHINE WANTS HIM TO SUCCEED. Dot has existed and will always exist. His control verse was just competitive 🔥and Drake responded in his feelings. That’s where it all started. Every other rapper took it as a competitive challenge but Aubrey acted like a chump with it. That’s where this beef really formulated.
@@thejuniors5345 TLDR: I hear you but you may be misunderstanding me fully. Especially regarding the causal hip hop fan and average pop fan distinction. There has always been a rift in how an artist goes about selling hip hop records especially since it’s predicated largely on Black Culture and the idea of the societal outcast - making something out of nothing. And you’re right to point out that Jay & Em are some of first artists to capitalize on selling Black Cultural experience or its perception (wanting to be like a hip hop artist. The aesthetic.) As opposed to selling their art in manner that allows for the art form to retain its integrity. Artists like Kendrick, Nas, Pac, Naughty By Nature, Biggie, Snoop, and even Andre 3000, in my opinion, manage to retain the integrity of HipHop and be successful without focusing strictly on commodifying the culture by emphasizing certain aspects of the genre that are more “fun” for fans. What I’m saying is that Drake has been the first hip hop artist to completely merge hip hop into pop in terms of its usage. The big difference is that pop largely depends on marketability. Side note: This is where race politics can start to play a part in an artist’s success in gaining mass appeal. Though I don’t think you should get hung up on someone being of a different cultural background. So long as they are respecting the tenants of the art form and are not exploiting it for financial gain. You obviously have to have the talent as well. Here’s the big distinction. Future is not pop. Xxxtentacion was not pop. JuiceWrld was not pop. Lil Uzi, is not pop. But an artist like Drake being the representative of Hip Hop has amplified the genre’s ability to be less defined. It’s more about mood and sensationalism as opposed to more grounded principles like it was prior. It makes it easier to disregard the genre and in general for it to dissipate especially if artists are making music with the intent of just making a quick buck. Or for the sake of…euphoria. Which is momentary. And for this to be a legitimate art form it has to last and be based on more than just the fleeting feelings of the moment. Edit: And to be clear, I think that works from artists like Future or Tyler the Creator are examples of expansions of traditional hip hop that are more legitimate because they’re honest expression of experience. Though their success is impart due to perceptions about hip hop and moreover perceptions about Blackness and "coolness".
For Elliot being from the 70's and from NYC the way he doesn't understand the culture as much as Jeremy much less DJ Hed , makes him come off as a clown. It's dude like him why hip-hop is in decline.
Like for real, if Drake dissed you, why are you wearing his jacket? If anything, as a hip hop reporter, you should be neutral.
to say Pusha dont care about receipts when he the receipt king
He the tea man
Damn. Hell froze over
Elliot needed to get out of this discussion
Because he wasn’t flowing or adding to it
Besides that laugh
It was written and to pimp a butterfly were classic 2 albums.
What you like about pimp a butterfly?
Facts
@@Freesmoke-uz5tk everything that album was great it was a mixture of funk jazz hip hop it had anthems (Aight),it was like OutKast’s Aquemini a incredible whole album,like a rap version of Stevie wonder songs in the key of life.
@@Freesmoke-uz5tkgreatest album I’ve ever listened to. It’s a perfect work of art. The beats, the lyrics, the pac interview, the timing ugh it’s just perfect
@@Freesmoke-uz5tkthe production, creativity, concept, the bars. He’s just a great musician
This was hands-down the best interview/podcast about the battle I’ve heard thus far. Thank you DJ Hed.
DJ Hed has the analysis on lock. To butcher that metaphor, Drizzy bringin' knives to this fight, knowing he has a 9 he can reach for - meanwhile Kendrick firin' shots, with a finger on the red nuke button.
Bruv, I know I am biased toward Kenny--but this whole idea that Drake refuses to look at Kendrick as a worthy opponent blows me. Is it cause he came out first? Is it his physical height over Dot? Is it the numbers??? He refuses to bar him up cause he simply CANNOT. We've seen the cyphers, and we heard the records especially in two beefs (three counting Ye) that he more so ONLY WON ONEEEEE
off melodic structure and witty bars. He jokingly challenged him of the multiplex entendres, cause he knows there's a level of complexity that Kendrick has in his raps and creative approach that DOES NOT have. Stop caping for that man.
This was good. Keep them coming
This is dope. Great conversation
“I honestly think Drake calling this last track “the heart part 6” is a huge mistake. The heart series is all about Kendrick immortalizing himself in hip hop history through this intimate,evolving autobiography,detailing his problems,triumphs,and aspirations etc.
This current chapter is Kendrick trying to axe the biggest name in the game in Drake and he managed to get so far insides drake head in a desperate attempt to get one up on Kendrick,Drake himself has immortalized his biggest failure of this beef as just the next/current part f Kendrick’s story 🤯🤯🤯
A chapter where Drake uses to expose himself as an idiot,a nastier piece of work then he pretends to be and a hypocrite. It’s the inverse of a usual “the heart”entry- as opposed too introspection and honesty it’s denial and obscufation. It’s proof that Drake is nothing like Kendrick at all-not like us
Admitting he’s a liar and a manipulator but in the same breath lies about things that are atleast to a degree demonstrably true about him.(proof him kissing a 17 year old)
In response to Kendrick relentless onslaught in this incoherent,contradictory,nasty,victim-blaming ramble of n which he verbally concedes(whether he means it or not) all while sounding physically exhausted.
It’s a breakdown in song format. This chapter of Kendrick’s story was destruction of Drake-the biggest problem in hip hop(from Kendrick’s perspective)
Drake co-authored his own demise”
Via flyingfrogofdeath9616
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It's crazy that when Drake asks "How does that verse start?" I immediately though:
TELL FLEX TO DROP A BOMB ON THIS ISH!
Ion smoke crack mf i sell it 🔥