Some mothers become single parents when doing everything in the right order. Some men abdicate their role of co parenting by leaving the home. And do not assume this is the black man who leaves his wife and kids. Many white men act the same way. I am one of those educated, married, women who were left to raise the children alone. With no child support, I might add. And then castigated by the Religious Right for 1) the failure of the marriage,2) the poverty that inevitability ensued. If I hear " You have a spirit of poverty," again, I'm going to throw something. This is why I believe that if we want to greatly reduce abortion rates, make it unnecessary, buy supporting a single woman in every way until she can stand on her own two feet. My five children and I had to rely on Public Assisrance for a few years until the youngest two of the five started school. Childcare was way out of the question financially. Meanwhile , our illustrious conservative Pesident, Ronald Reagan, called me and women like me "Welfare Queens." As did the conservative Christian community. So there is that. This issue is far more complicated than these reports indicate. Just saying for your consideration.
Biblically speaking, the goal is not to reduce abortion. It is to abolish abortion, with reclassification into the criminal code as felony murder, with arrest, conviction, and execution of anyone who is involved in performing one.
I wiirshipped for 14 years with a primarily conservative politically church fellowship. I knew of only two or three other progressive attendees. We all got along well, respected each other, and followed Jesus. Then the Tea Party ideology took off, Fox News viewing became fundamental to the faith, and anyone not embracing the Conservative viewpoints were seen as apostate at best. When it finally became necessary to reveal my political preference, I was seen as a traitor, a Marxist, someone to avoid. I sat with them weekly, and in small prayer circles. They were a tight club of Republicanism, and I was aware of that, but our common faith in Christ was more important to me. The commonality of our faith was not reciprocated as regards to fellowship with them. I have been going solo, loving the brethren firm a distance. And kudos to Kaitlin for reading Ezra Klein's book. Thanks again Holy Post for another excellent episode.
Yaaassss on the two smaller podcasts! There have been SO many times I wanted to share the guest interview but didn’t want to deal with them getting through the news segment.
I love the "news"segment. I would be so disappointed if that portion of the show were eliminated. Sometimes, it is the best part. I feel like I get to know the hosts by listening, and a sprinkle of humor during the day makes the rest of the day happier.
@@hapennysparrow Well they wouldn't get rid of it, they would just separate it into its own video/podcast. Though, pro-tip if you're sharing videos (and not podcasts), you can always share it with a timestamp, so they can click it and go straight to the interview (or wherever you want them to go).
In Cornwall, a typical hedge is considered to be an earth bank that may or may not be faced with stone. Frequently, these are topped with trees, shrubs and other plants which may be considered to be a hedgerow. Variations in style exist.
I really enjoyed the interview with Walter Kim! I agree--It's not too late to get this right. There's an opportunity here to change course. I think it means we acknowledge the harm done in the name of Christ (publicly confess and repent), then we articulate and live the good He wants us to do instead. Who wouldn't be attracted to a faithful witness (do justly, love mercy, walk humbly) filled with goodness, beauty, and truth? It's the ugly parts they (rightly) object to.
Another really, really great podcast. Thanks so much! I’m excited about the two episode format as I too have often wanted to share the guest interview portion by itself. I love the conversation portion but think some new listeners may not be willing to invest the larger amount of time to listen and I don’t want to lose them before the specific guest topic/discussion portion. I’m so thankful for each of you and your faithful, holistic witness.
Just don't think of eliminating "The News." It is often hilarious, sometimes serious, and allows the listener to get better acquainted with the hosts. It is essential to the whole. If the podcast is divided, then I hope for more " News."
@@hapennysparrow it is important in defining that the hosts are not some holy church elders dispensing immortal wisdom, but rather some people asking hard questions and wrestling with hard answers. Proclaiming humility never works. Displaying humility by talking about butt news is more effective.
The interview with Walter Kim was excellent! He's a leader with an outside perspective, which is what we need. The Gospel is all encompassing, more than what we make it today. Reminds me of what Kaitlyn said about the Catholic church some episodes ago of what they do for others.
I left church long ago. I grew up in a pentecostal church. The things I was taught seem to be abandoned today. From the outside I think one of the biggest cancers in the evangelical churches is this idea that all you need is to 'repent' or ask Jesus to forgive their sins and be baptized and that deeds are not just not needed but a bad, even sinful thing. Jesus called us to do deeds. In several places in scripture Jesus talks of specific deeds to be done and in others through parable. What we were not supposed to do is deeds for our glory. If you want to fix evangelicalism, I'm not sure that's a good thing, you need to reintroduce the importance of doing the works Jesus taught his followers to do. Not giving money and assuming the church will take care of it but actual hands on work in the space Jesus called his people to. Inviting Jesus in is supposed to change you. The Holy Spirit is supposed to work a transformation in your life so that you feel called to these deeds for God's glory. It's more than loving God, or fearing God. It's more than helping the poor. It's greater than writing a check. It's living a life of service in such a way that draws others to God through your lived example. Not one rhat pushes others away from God because you disagree with their life, identity, or politics.
So before the "Traditional Christian Values" crowd crows over this married mom story, they need equivalent studies on a bunch of different scenarios. Married moms who are in lesbian relationships, various forms of trans and non binary, in the marriage open or have poly elements. Then all of those studies need to not also show the same or better results for the non-traditional marriages. Also Skye's discussion regarding single women struggling economically ignores that they wouldn't be struggling economically if we had a functioning government that handled healthcare and higher education, instead of for profit parasites. I am also disappointed in Kaitlyn basically slut shaming women and blaming "the left" for women wanting to go it alone.
There is no such thing as a “lesbian marriage”, nor a sodomite marriage nor open marriage. There are people living in open sin, but not the marriages to which you speak. Any pastor who supports such is not a pastor. They are an individual wearing a year round Halloween costume. Government has no (NO) legal nor biblical role or jurisdiction in healthcare nor higher education. That role doesn’t exist. That isn’t political, that is factual.
I'm almost 60 years old and my close family members now have a partisan, rather than Christian identity. They chose to reject ongoing theological literacy for titillating media of all kinds. They seem to have "gone out from us because they never were part of us." I wonder how common this fact is: the cultural moment has been a decades-long fact of life for many in their personal associations, which while on speaking terms, are superficial. I dont think more talking with the other team can work. We rely on superficiality, inanity, banality and addiction.
Are the emotional mature people just not allowed on this podcast. Sparky, unbelievable. "I did the opposite of a mission trip. . ." Aren't we always witnessing? Really.
I have never heard anyone on the left being anti marriage. It’s always been about being able to thrive whether you are single, married, or otherwise. Kids or not.
Russell - Evangelicals lie, deceive and slander their opponents and create straw man and Boogeyman to fear monger and hate Monger...this is simply a core ethos of the entire Evangelical community - it's Antichrist to the Core... talk about the whore of Babylon
@@greglogan7706 I would rather say that American evangelism and the leadership has those behavioral traits but I would not say everyone who goes to a evangelical church is that. I have a lot of in laws that are right wing evangelical and are more misinformed than vile bad faith actors. The psychological effects of the media has given a lot of people brain worms without them knowing it.
@@patrickc3419 probably had a lot to do with spousal abuse and lack of rights. And to call a large group of women who’s stories you know nothing about Jezebels, nice touch…
@@Epok17 Correct, they are Jezebels. Feminists are hate filled, anti life, pro sodomite, spiritual and moral bankrupts who need grace and who need Christ, as long as they still have a beating heart. They are not victims, and they certainly are not saved. Sin doesn’t excuse more sin.
The fellowship I've had in the body of Christ has been in groups that would be called evangelical (for about 35 years). But we've never used that word to describe ourselves. That's not because we were against the word but just because we used the word Christian instead. Does it matter whether we use the word? Can't we maintain relationships and cooperation in the Church (big C) just because we're Christians? What's the benefit of keeping any other word, evangelical or otherwise? Walter Kim was a great guest! But he mentioned that he didn't want to leave fellowship with churches that he's cooperated with historically (who are evangelical). Is fellowship with churches that are evangelical only open to folks who use the word? My backdrop here is that we didn't use the word even before the word became problematic.
The word is pretty vague. I read a bit about the EKD (Evangelische Kirche in Deutschland) as part of a meditation on the perils of being a “Good German” (those that simply looked the other way during… Germany’s problem years) and in that context Evangelische meant little more than “not Catholic.” Germany has a bit of a nasty history on sectarian violence. Ironically I learned about the Sack of Magdeburg from a fantasy novel in middle school. I’d assumed it was fictional from the context, but it was the first time I learned about Christians… not being nice to other Christians.
Looked a picture of Santas stuck. They say hedge. To me it looks like a field's wind break of trees and underbrush, but raised above the level of the road.
Observation: If American culture valued honesty more than wining and marketing -- we wouldn't expect the other 'side' to lie... American experience teaches us that our own side lies almost transparently... knowing that most people won't pay attention. Problem is... there are the lies we accept because they are 'expedient' lies... and there's not accepting the truth because in the political field we lie so freely. (One thing I hate is when the lies get into the church.)
When conservatives make the argument that they’re not racist; I think of the classic 1968 interview with Gov. George Wallace on Face the Nation “I think the biggest races in the world are the ones that caught other folks racist.” “I think the biggest bigots in the world are the ones who call other folks bigots.” It’s the same playbook; just digitally remastered.
So we are going to act like there are no married "single parents" generationally. We are just going to skip over the number of men who only contribute financially to their households but almost nothing to the raising of their children. Single mothers may mean not being married, but it does not mean the parents are not together, or that the father is not contributing to the household or in the life of the child.
I propose a third podcast, just for News of the Butt. Because that segment, I tend to listen to over and over!!! Even among secular podcasts, the butt news is second to none.
I am an elderly Black woman, who started off as I am an Independent in college. As a young adult I did not claim a political party. However, as life moved on I did not find a Republican candidate who had policy that promoted human flourishing of all. I said forget I am a Democrat and after 50 plus years to find such Republican candidate to even bother to investigate the views and policies of a Republican. Repeating the same thing over and over again and expecting to come out with a different conclusion is crazy. To say the Democrat have failed the Black race, with promise and not delivering. 1 it is a two party government. And 2 as I tell the younger people vote pick the lesser of 2 evils. That a saying the lesser of two eivls.
While I don’t know, and none of us know, the context to which he was speaking (it may not have even been political!), CH Spurgeon once said “Of two evils, choose neither”. With that being said, yes, both of the main political parties are wrong, but it is inaccurate to say they they are EQUALLY wrong. I am not a registered Republican, nor to do bear any illusions that Trump is saved, nor were individuals such as Bush, McCain, or Reagan. Clarifying that; It is not possible for a genuine, born again follower of Christ Jesus to support nor vote Democrat, in such by doing so, you are affirming what the official party platform stands for: abortion of unborn children, the sodomite movement, socialism, lawlessness, and government run schools. There really hasn’t been “factions” (conservatives, moderates, liberals) within both parties since perhaps the late 1990s. In local, state, and federal elections, be it for legislative or executive positions, you’re not voting for a pastor. You are voting for the person who will support and legislate for values that align with scripture.
@@patrickc3419 sorry if you ARE ANYONE READING MY COMMENT thought I was saying that both parties are equally wrong. I have never thought that I was answering to the the thought or what is said to Blacks; why do blacks vote for Democrats because they have not followed through on their promises to Black. I say if that is so, the Democrats policies are closer to those that benefit common Man. Jesus said Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and unto God that which is God's. Paul said Paul's injunction in Romans 13:1-“Let everyone submit to the governing authorities, since there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are instituted by God”. And since I'm not an anarchist and since many of my people gave up their life and blood for the vote. I will always recommend voting and choose the one that is best for you and society as a whole. And that for my race since the 1950's is the Democrat Party. And listening to my parents probably further back than that. My mother would always say and she came from Kentucky. The Republicans were the party of the handouts. I know that is probably hard for people of these times to believe. She was born in 1921. And the Democrats gave you an opportunity to try to make a life for yourself. You know one gave you the fish and the other one caught you how to fish. This is what I was told back in the fifties. But I was going to grow up and be an independent. And I had to learn the wisdom of my parents. Also there is another part of your comment that you misunderstood what I was trying to say. So I will have to send this and go back and see what it was.
@@patrickc3419 oh it was government formed schools. I am definitely and always will be for government formed schools. I have had younger children that my husband put in parochials elementary school,and two older children that graduated from a parochial High School. I believe in education of the masses. That's what made this country great. We need for our whole country to be educated so that they can make good decisions for the country. I I have had children in parochial Elementary, two older children that did High School, and one to graduate from a parochial College. And grandchildren to go to Lutheran elementary school.There have been a few good charter schools. But religious schools can be just as unfair, and show favoritism, and harmful as a Government run schools. I want an equal opportunity for all students. And not just a few. And once something is financially based, It becomes corrupt. I am a or was a substitute teacher. I have seen how government non-funding of government formed schools and the polices of the republican party weakened the whole educational system.
@@1992grandma it's a shame that even after all this time many conservatives still see the Republican party as the party of Lincoln. Maybe they would understand about the party switch if they hadn't spent decades fighting to keep all of us uneducated, including themselves.
Do you find it odd, to say the least, that a podcast that bills itself as “Christian” makes Ocasio Cortez look like Charles Spurgeon? Who says to watch Fox News (which has many sodomite hosts/guests/atheists), or be a Republican? They gave us Reagan (who legalized abortion and no fault divorce in California, gave amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants, was involved in the occult, and never attended church), cult member Romney, Bush (the worst post WW2 president who greatly expanded the size of the federal government, and supports instances of abortion) and socially liberal Ford, Rockefeller, Nixon, Graham, Dole, & Goldwater? 🤔
Please refrain from commenting on my comments. I do not appreciate it. If you are that critical of the podcast as to continually cast aspersions on it, why do you watch it?
@@hapennysparrow 1.) Don’t post unbiblical, and/or foolish statements that are based on feelings not facts. Ignore if you need to, block me, or file a civil rights complaint again me if you feel led. You obviously posted it to be read and get feedback; you’re going to have it be read and receive feedback. 2.) To counter the false statements/false social gospel espoused on this podcast by literally sharing verses of scripture as well as exegetically explaining what it means. The fact that you have a problem with that in and of itself speaks volumes of your salvation at worst and discernment at best.
@@patrickc3419 you’re really more helping the podcast by pushing engagement and amplifying it in the UA-cam algorithm, so… thank you for helping to share the message.
Our American housing design does not lend to life similar to that of what we read in the Bible. Even apartments are designed to minimize connection with neighbors so one can have “privacy”. Maybe a start could be rethinking what a neighborhood looks like both physically and financially to encourage more neighbor connection.
I assume that's the point. From some things they've said in the past, I don't think a lot of people do. This seems like an effort to get more people listen to that segment. I would guess it will have the opposite effect.
A massive amount of people (I suspect many of them were married moms) started Etsy shops during 2020. It increases your self esteem and satisfaction with life when people want to buy what you're making and selling. Even if we didn't actually add any wealth to the family, we still added more meaning to our Stay-at-Home lives.
I would prefer the spit episodes. 90 minutes takes too much time out of a busy persons life. This is why I don’t watch movies on TV during my down time but 30 minute sitcoms. I waist a lot of money on Netflix because all I watch is Seinfeld
17:29 So happy to hear News of the Butt back again. =3 And now we know why Daleks can’t go up stairs - they don’t have butts! They’ve just got big, cheese grater shaped bottoms with no legs and no butts. If only they had butts, they could have caught that rascally Doctor eons ago. Clearly, evolution does not favor the Daleks. Clearly. 😄
@@colleennikstenas4921, the Tom Baker Doctor's darleks could go up stairs too. As a kid in the 90s i certainly wanted to hide behind the sofa the first time they started hovering up stairs.
There was a massive amount of money given out by the federal government to families based on having kids and without that the stats in the Atlantic article likely would be different. It's also hard to say people should get their education and then get married but also wait till you are married to have sex. People are feeling like they have to wait longer and longer to get married but having children is as easy as it has always been.
Yea, I suspect this plays a big role. Money doesn't buy happiness, but it sure helps in stabilizing mood and staving off despair. Unclear if this is helped or hurt by the econmic gap (I think a little of both). But there are probably plenty of other factors too. They note in the article that these patterns existed before COVID too (and were flipped as recently as the early 2000s for the childless/with children stats). We also know the pandemic also exacerbated the epidemic of loneliness, which is also measurable. Companionship would, naturally, ease the burden of isolation and disconnection (and make it worse in other ways haha). And busy-ness can help distract from some of those feelings, even while it increases stress (as mentioned in the segment). Still, interesting findings. Not sure how to use it, though. The journey to marry and have kids, especially in a contemporary American Christian context, is a personal decision that still nevertheless feels driven by a whole lot of other external factors.
Flat worms crap out of their mouth. A one way digestive tract. And I learned that my daily walks do nothing to firm my behind. Running is out of the question, so I guess I gotta climb a lot of stairs. Rats.
At 43:00 Sky hit it out of the park. God NEVER created Democrats or Republicans so Why do we as Christians identify as anything other. If we belong to God and walk in the likeness of Jesus the Christ, then Why do we adorn secular ways? As Paul said, God forbid!
Being able to repair American evangelism is a big assumption. In Matt. 7:21-23, Jesus said "many" that He doesn't know, are falsely using His name in their evangelical activities.....
@@greglogan7706 I don’t think they are saying that the Europeans didn’t colonise in Africa. But yes, they are obviously liberal. Kaitlyn being all like, “its so surprising that there are so many Christians in Rwanda, after our Christian colonising forefathers helped colonise the country.” That is a liberal mindset. Believing that the current state of affairs must will alway be because of centuries old oppression, regardless of anything that may have happened since. I know this is how they think, because I’ve listened to their podcast for years.
@@thebishopoftherailway4719 Why is that liberal? Why is simply describing reality as "liberal"? Fascists? Antichrists? Deceivers? So you're saying there's no current negative impacts on Rwanda because of European colonization? And your choice of calling them "my" forefathers - isn't that really part of the woke left ideology...🤔 So I'm assuming you must be someone who's woke left... according to the fascist stereotype...🙂
It's frankly really sad that those of us who were Republican Evangelicals for 50 years experience "liberal" name calling freakouts when we talk about anything real. The whole point of this broadcast is ppl putting their outrageporn talking points as their identity in politics ABOVE their identity in Christ.
@Greg Logan according to the article the extreme right sees anyone on the left as liberal ie wrong. I'm assuming they disagree with what's being said by Kaitlyn so instead of engaging In a discussion which would require a minimum of being open to potentially being wrong, it's a lot easier to label her a liberal because that gives me the option of just saying no, she's wrong, I don't have to change. But I'm just assuming which means asses you and me which means... more news of the butt :😀
1.) Proclaim the Gospel (the doctrines of grace), both the lost as well as to yourself and your family. Not the Gospel plus works, not the Gospel plus social justice, not the Gospel plus “yeah but”, not Billy Graham’s “just say the sinner’s prayer”!, not “preach the Gospel every day and when necessary use words”. These are unbiblical, and not the Gospel. These are false gospels, and a false doctrine(s). 2.) Stop emasculating men. There are biblical expectations of what a man of God, and what a woman of God looks like. This is not sexism but biblically ordained roles. 3.) Call out false teachers by name, but specifically why; (i.e. Copeland, Osteen, Hinn, Dollar with the prosperity gospel…Vischer, Chandler, Keller, Platt with wokeness and CRT…Meyer, White, Moore with “preaching” to men….Robertson and Shirer with claiming to “hear God’s audible voice”….anyone in the emergent church movement (Bell, McLaren, Campolo) 4.) Have daily family worship with a reliable Bible translation (ESV, Legacy, NASB, NKJ,), do catechisms, worship in music with doctrinally sound hymns. Memorize scripture. 5.) Build up a doctrinally sound personal family library that includes the Puritans, the periodicals Banner of Truth, Table Talk, Answers, & Expositor, and works by Spurgeon, Lloyd-Jones, Luther, Ryle, Tozer, Flavel, Owen, MacArthur, Sproul, Baucham, Washer, Lawson, Mbewe, Begg, & Ferguson. Buy a copy of the 1689 London Baptist Confession, or the Westminster Confession. Spurgeon once said “Visit many good books, but live in the Bible”. 6.) Apply the Gospel to everything: Public Policy, how you vote, what you expose your children to, what you expose yourself to, whom you yoke fellowship with.
@@Justanotherconsumer If that is what you got out of what I shared, you are in some sad, sad spiritual shape, my friend. 1.) Tithing is not commanded in the Bible 2 Corinthians 9:6-7. 2 Corinthians 8:12. 2.) The purpose of the Gospel is not “justice” nor to eliminate poverty. Matthew 26:11. It is to proclaim the urgency of lost man to turn from living in sin, to Christ, the Imago Dei, repent and believe the Gospel. Anything else are fruits of genuine salvation; nor a means to it.
@@patrickc3419 why would Jesus have said that if he didn’t care about justice or think believers should care about it? I am in a bit of a sad place, I’ll be honest. Ran across one of Kent Hovind’s unhinged rants. The best argument against Christianity is the behavior of people like him.
@@JustanotherconsumerOh I have always disavowed Hovind; nor do I know any genuine born again follower of Christ who takes him seriously. He is a conspiracy theorist, a convicted criminal, and someone who is biblically unqualified to be in any pastoral role in any way shape or form.
Some mothers become single parents when doing everything in the right order. Some men abdicate their role of co parenting by leaving the home. And do not assume this is the black man who leaves his wife and kids. Many white men act the same way. I am one of those educated, married, women who were left to raise the children alone. With no child support, I might add. And then castigated by the Religious Right for 1) the failure of the marriage,2) the poverty that inevitability ensued. If I hear " You have a spirit of poverty," again, I'm going to throw something. This is why I believe that if we want to greatly reduce abortion rates, make it unnecessary, buy supporting a single woman in every way until she can stand on her own two feet. My five children and I had to rely on Public Assisrance for a few years until the youngest two of the five started school. Childcare was way out of the question financially. Meanwhile , our illustrious conservative Pesident, Ronald Reagan, called me and women like me "Welfare Queens." As did the conservative Christian community. So there is that. This issue is far more complicated than these reports indicate. Just saying for your consideration.
Biblically speaking, the goal is not to reduce abortion. It is to abolish abortion, with reclassification into the criminal code as felony murder, with arrest, conviction, and execution of anyone who is involved in performing one.
You just echoed all of my sentiments in this write up.
Thank you so so much.
And may God bless you richly🙏🏽
I wiirshipped for 14 years with a primarily conservative politically church fellowship. I knew of only two or three other progressive attendees. We all got along well, respected each other, and followed Jesus. Then the Tea Party ideology took off, Fox News viewing became fundamental to the faith, and anyone not embracing the Conservative viewpoints were seen as apostate at best. When it finally became necessary to reveal my political preference, I was seen as a traitor, a Marxist, someone to avoid. I sat with them weekly, and in small prayer circles. They were a tight club of Republicanism, and I was aware of that, but our common faith in Christ was more important to me. The commonality of our faith was not reciprocated as regards to fellowship with them. I have been going solo, loving the brethren firm a distance. And kudos to Kaitlin for reading Ezra Klein's book. Thanks again Holy Post for another excellent episode.
Yaaassss on the two smaller podcasts! There have been SO many times I wanted to share the guest interview but didn’t want to deal with them getting through the news segment.
I love the "news"segment. I would be so disappointed if that portion of the show were eliminated. Sometimes, it is the best part. I feel like I get to know the hosts by listening, and a sprinkle of humor during the day makes the rest of the day happier.
@@hapennysparrow Well they wouldn't get rid of it, they would just separate it into its own video/podcast.
Though, pro-tip if you're sharing videos (and not podcasts), you can always share it with a timestamp, so they can click it and go straight to the interview (or wherever you want them to go).
Same
In Cornwall, a typical hedge is considered to be an earth bank that may or may not be faced with stone. Frequently, these are topped with trees, shrubs and other plants which may be considered to be a hedgerow. Variations in style exist.
Ohh.. this makes sense. Thanks!
Though, now having watched the video... This might be giving the hedge too much credit haha
Walter Kim's message that Christians need to lead from the margins is 10000% true, loved this interview!
Adding my amen!
I really enjoyed the interview with Walter Kim! I agree--It's not too late to get this right. There's an opportunity here to change course. I think it means we acknowledge the harm done in the name of Christ (publicly confess and repent), then we articulate and live the good He wants us to do instead. Who wouldn't be attracted to a faithful witness (do justly, love mercy, walk humbly) filled with goodness, beauty, and truth? It's the ugly parts they (rightly) object to.
The hedge probably belonged to the Knights who say Nee
I'm sure it was a nice one too.
Ikki Ikki Ikki Ikki Ptang Zoop Boing olwo (Nee)
😂😂
Weren't the wars fought over shrubbery? Thus the knights defending them who said Nee.
" Tis but a hedge wound
Thanks Kaitlyn for the explanation you are doing here regarding the history in Rwanda!
Maybe I’ve missed it in the past, but I’m loving the “News of the Butt” logo during that special segment
Another really, really great podcast. Thanks so much!
I’m excited about the two episode format as I too have often wanted to share the guest interview portion by itself. I love the conversation portion but think some new listeners may not be willing to invest the larger amount of time to listen and I don’t want to lose them before the specific guest topic/discussion portion.
I’m so thankful for each of you and your faithful, holistic witness.
Just don't think of eliminating "The News." It is often hilarious, sometimes serious, and allows the listener to get better acquainted with the hosts. It is essential to the whole. If the podcast is divided, then I hope for more " News."
@@hapennysparrow it is important in defining that the hosts are not some holy church elders dispensing immortal wisdom, but rather some people asking hard questions and wrestling with hard answers.
Proclaiming humility never works. Displaying humility by talking about butt news is more effective.
Walter Kim is the most articulate person I have heard on the value of Evangelicalism. A perfect fit for his job.
Great interview with Walter Kim. Thank you. Much appreciate his insights.
The interview with Walter Kim was excellent! He's a leader with an outside perspective, which is what we need. The Gospel is all encompassing, more than what we make it today. Reminds me of what Kaitlyn said about the Catholic church some episodes ago of what they do for others.
I really appreciated this talk with Rev. Walter Kim. It truly encouraged me.
I left church long ago. I grew up in a pentecostal church. The things I was taught seem to be abandoned today. From the outside I think one of the biggest cancers in the evangelical churches is this idea that all you need is to 'repent' or ask Jesus to forgive their sins and be baptized and that deeds are not just not needed but a bad, even sinful thing.
Jesus called us to do deeds. In several places in scripture Jesus talks of specific deeds to be done and in others through parable. What we were not supposed to do is deeds for our glory.
If you want to fix evangelicalism, I'm not sure that's a good thing, you need to reintroduce the importance of doing the works Jesus taught his followers to do. Not giving money and assuming the church will take care of it but actual hands on work in the space Jesus called his people to.
Inviting Jesus in is supposed to change you. The Holy Spirit is supposed to work a transformation in your life so that you feel called to these deeds for God's glory. It's more than loving God, or fearing God. It's more than helping the poor. It's greater than writing a check. It's living a life of service in such a way that draws others to God through your lived example. Not one rhat pushes others away from God because you disagree with their life, identity, or politics.
So before the "Traditional Christian Values" crowd crows over this married mom story, they need equivalent studies on a bunch of different scenarios. Married moms who are in lesbian relationships, various forms of trans and non binary, in the marriage open or have poly elements. Then all of those studies need to not also show the same or better results for the non-traditional marriages. Also Skye's discussion regarding single women struggling economically ignores that they wouldn't be struggling economically if we had a functioning government that handled healthcare and higher education, instead of for profit parasites. I am also disappointed in Kaitlyn basically slut shaming women and blaming "the left" for women wanting to go it alone.
There is no such thing as a “lesbian marriage”, nor a sodomite marriage nor open marriage. There are people living in open sin, but not the marriages to which you speak.
Any pastor who supports such is not a pastor. They are an individual wearing a year round Halloween costume.
Government has no (NO) legal nor biblical role or jurisdiction in healthcare nor higher education. That role doesn’t exist. That isn’t political, that is factual.
I'm almost 60 years old and my close family members now have a partisan, rather than Christian identity. They chose to reject ongoing theological literacy for titillating media of all kinds. They seem to have "gone out from us because they never were part of us." I wonder how common this fact is: the cultural moment has been a decades-long fact of life for many in their personal associations, which while on speaking terms, are superficial. I dont think more talking with the other team can work. We rely on superficiality, inanity, banality and addiction.
Phil's Cornish accent is giving Dick van Dyke's cockney one a run for its money.
Are the emotional mature people just not allowed on this podcast. Sparky, unbelievable. "I did the opposite of a mission trip. . ." Aren't we always witnessing? Really.
I have never heard anyone on the left being anti marriage. It’s always been about being able to thrive whether you are single, married, or otherwise. Kids or not.
Russell - Evangelicals lie, deceive and slander their opponents and create straw man and Boogeyman to fear monger and hate Monger...this is simply a core ethos of the entire Evangelical community - it's Antichrist to the Core... talk about the whore of Babylon
@@greglogan7706 I would rather say that American evangelism and the leadership has those behavioral traits but I would not say everyone who goes to a evangelical church is that. I have a lot of in laws that are right wing evangelical and are more misinformed than vile bad faith actors. The psychological effects of the media has given a lot of people brain worms without them knowing it.
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Feminists, who are the Jezebels of the Left, have always been rapidly anti marriage (and anti family. And anti male. And anti children).
@@patrickc3419 probably had a lot to do with spousal abuse and lack of rights. And to call a large group of women who’s stories you know nothing about Jezebels, nice touch…
@@Epok17 Correct, they are Jezebels. Feminists are hate filled, anti life, pro sodomite, spiritual and moral bankrupts who need grace and who need Christ, as long as they still have a beating heart.
They are not victims, and they certainly are not saved. Sin doesn’t excuse more sin.
The fellowship I've had in the body of Christ has been in groups that would be called evangelical (for about 35 years). But we've never used that word to describe ourselves. That's not because we were against the word but just because we used the word Christian instead.
Does it matter whether we use the word? Can't we maintain relationships and cooperation in the Church (big C) just because we're Christians? What's the benefit of keeping any other word, evangelical or otherwise?
Walter Kim was a great guest! But he mentioned that he didn't want to leave fellowship with churches that he's cooperated with historically (who are evangelical). Is fellowship with churches that are evangelical only open to folks who use the word? My backdrop here is that we didn't use the word even before the word became problematic.
The word is pretty vague.
I read a bit about the EKD (Evangelische Kirche in Deutschland) as part of a meditation on the perils of being a “Good German” (those that simply looked the other way during… Germany’s problem years) and in that context Evangelische meant little more than “not Catholic.”
Germany has a bit of a nasty history on sectarian violence. Ironically I learned about the Sack of Magdeburg from a fantasy novel in middle school. I’d assumed it was fictional from the context, but it was the first time I learned about Christians… not being nice to other Christians.
“Sir mix-a-lotus” - i died.😂😂❤❤
Love you guys
Looked a picture of Santas stuck. They say hedge. To me it looks like a field's wind break of trees and underbrush, but raised above the level of the road.
Observation: If American culture valued honesty more than wining and marketing -- we wouldn't expect the other 'side' to lie... American experience teaches us that our own side lies almost transparently... knowing that most people won't pay attention.
Problem is... there are the lies we accept because they are 'expedient' lies... and there's not accepting the truth because in the political field we lie so freely. (One thing I hate is when the lies get into the church.)
Loved the interview
When conservatives make the argument that they’re not racist; I think of the classic 1968 interview with Gov. George Wallace on Face the Nation “I think the biggest races in the world are the ones that caught other folks racist.” “I think the biggest bigots in the world are the ones who call other folks bigots.” It’s the same playbook; just digitally remastered.
So we are going to act like there are no married "single parents" generationally. We are just going to skip over the number of men who only contribute financially to their households but almost nothing to the raising of their children. Single mothers may mean not being married, but it does not mean the parents are not together, or that the father is not contributing to the household or in the life of the child.
I propose a third podcast, just for News of the Butt.
Because that segment, I tend to listen to over and over!!!
Even among secular podcasts, the butt news is second to none.
I am an elderly Black woman, who started off as I am an Independent in college. As a young adult I did not claim a political party. However, as life moved on I did not find a Republican candidate who had policy that promoted human flourishing of all. I said forget I am a Democrat and after 50 plus years to find such Republican candidate to even bother to investigate the views and policies of a Republican. Repeating the same thing over and over again and expecting to come out with a different conclusion is crazy. To say the Democrat have failed the Black race, with promise and not delivering. 1 it is a two party government. And 2 as I tell the younger people vote pick the lesser of 2 evils. That a saying the lesser of two eivls.
While I don’t know, and none of us know, the context to which he was speaking (it may not have even been political!), CH Spurgeon once said “Of two evils, choose neither”.
With that being said, yes, both of the main political parties are wrong, but it is inaccurate to say they they are EQUALLY wrong.
I am not a registered Republican, nor to do bear any illusions that Trump is saved, nor were individuals such as Bush, McCain, or Reagan. Clarifying that; It is not possible for a genuine, born again follower of Christ Jesus to support nor vote Democrat, in such by doing so, you are affirming what the official party platform stands for: abortion of unborn children, the sodomite movement, socialism, lawlessness, and government run schools. There really hasn’t been “factions” (conservatives, moderates, liberals) within both parties since perhaps the late 1990s.
In local, state, and federal elections, be it for legislative or executive positions, you’re not voting for a pastor. You are voting for the person who will support and legislate for values that align with scripture.
@@patrickc3419 sorry if you ARE ANYONE READING MY COMMENT thought I was saying that both parties are equally wrong. I have never thought that I was answering to the the thought or what is said to Blacks; why do blacks vote for Democrats because they have not followed through on their promises to Black. I say if that is so, the Democrats policies are closer to those that benefit common Man. Jesus said Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and unto God that which is God's. Paul said
Paul's injunction in Romans 13:1-“Let everyone submit to the governing authorities, since there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are instituted by God”. And since I'm not an anarchist and since many of my people gave up their life and blood for the vote. I will always recommend voting and choose the one that is best for you and society as a whole. And that for my race since the 1950's is the Democrat Party. And listening to my parents probably further back than that. My mother would always say and she came from Kentucky. The Republicans were the party of the handouts. I know that is probably hard for people of these times to believe. She was born in 1921. And the Democrats gave you an opportunity to try to make a life for yourself. You know one gave you the fish and the other one caught you how to fish. This is what I was told back in the fifties. But I was going to grow up and be an independent. And I had to learn the wisdom of my parents. Also there is another part of your comment that you misunderstood what I was trying to say. So I will have to send this and go back and see what it was.
@@patrickc3419 oh it was government formed schools. I am definitely and always will be for government formed schools. I have had younger children that my husband put in parochials elementary school,and two older children that graduated from a parochial High School. I believe in education of the masses. That's what made this country great. We need for our whole country to be educated so that they can make good decisions for the country. I I have had children in parochial Elementary, two older children that did High School, and one to graduate from a parochial College. And grandchildren to go to Lutheran elementary school.There have been a few good charter schools. But religious schools can be just as unfair, and show favoritism, and harmful as a Government run schools.
I want an equal opportunity for all students. And not just a few. And once something is financially based, It becomes corrupt. I am a or was a substitute teacher. I have seen how government non-funding of government formed schools and the polices of the republican party weakened the whole educational system.
@@1992grandma it's a shame that even after all this time many conservatives still see the Republican party as the party of Lincoln. Maybe they would understand about the party switch if they hadn't spent decades fighting to keep all of us uneducated, including themselves.
Evangelicals are too busy condemning anyone who doesn't vote Republican or watch Fox Noise.
Do you find it odd, to say the least, that a podcast that bills itself as “Christian” makes Ocasio Cortez look like Charles Spurgeon?
Who says to watch Fox News (which has many sodomite hosts/guests/atheists), or be a Republican? They gave us Reagan (who legalized abortion and no fault divorce in California, gave amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants, was involved in the occult, and never attended church), cult member Romney, Bush (the worst post WW2 president who greatly expanded the size of the federal government, and supports instances of abortion) and socially liberal Ford, Rockefeller, Nixon, Graham, Dole, & Goldwater?
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And your too busy sending your kids to the drag queen hour at the library
Please refrain from commenting on my comments. I do not appreciate it. If you are that critical of the podcast as to continually cast aspersions on it, why do you watch it?
@@hapennysparrow 1.) Don’t post unbiblical, and/or foolish statements that are based on feelings not facts. Ignore if you need to, block me, or file a civil rights complaint again me if you feel led. You obviously posted it to be read and get feedback; you’re going to have it be read and receive feedback.
2.) To counter the false statements/false social gospel espoused on this podcast by literally sharing verses of scripture as well as exegetically explaining what it means. The fact that you have a problem with that in and of itself speaks volumes of your salvation at worst and discernment at best.
@@patrickc3419 you’re really more helping the podcast by pushing engagement and amplifying it in the UA-cam algorithm, so… thank you for helping to share the message.
Our American housing design does not lend to life similar to that of what we read in the Bible. Even apartments are designed to minimize connection with neighbors so one can have “privacy”. Maybe a start could be rethinking what a neighborhood looks like both physically and financially to encourage more neighbor connection.
if it helps I dont listen to majority of interviews
I assume that's the point. From some things they've said in the past, I don't think a lot of people do. This seems like an effort to get more people listen to that segment. I would guess it will have the opposite effect.
A massive amount of people (I suspect many of them were married moms) started Etsy shops during 2020. It increases your self esteem and satisfaction with life when people want to buy what you're making and selling. Even if we didn't actually add any wealth to the family, we still added more meaning to our Stay-at-Home lives.
The News of the butt logo... is that new? It is fantastic! "Sir Mix-a-lotus" lol
I would prefer the spit episodes. 90 minutes takes too much time out of a busy persons life. This is why I don’t watch movies on TV during my down time but 30 minute sitcoms. I waist a lot of money on Netflix because all I watch is Seinfeld
No more news of the butt, please or move it to the end
17:29 So happy to hear News of the Butt back again. =3 And now we know why Daleks can’t go up stairs - they don’t have butts! They’ve just got big, cheese grater shaped bottoms with no legs and no butts. If only they had butts, they could have caught that rascally Doctor eons ago. Clearly, evolution does not favor the Daleks. Clearly. 😄
Dude they can now. Since NuWho. And of course they announce it before doing it just like before so kids can scramble for hidey spots.
And May I say I love seeing DW in this forum! made my day.
@@colleennikstenas4921, the Tom Baker Doctor's darleks could go up stairs too. As a kid in the 90s i certainly wanted to hide behind the sofa the first time they started hovering up stairs.
I like the split podcast idea!
Meh.
There was a massive amount of money given out by the federal government to families based on having kids and without that the stats in the Atlantic article likely would be different. It's also hard to say people should get their education and then get married but also wait till you are married to have sex. People are feeling like they have to wait longer and longer to get married but having children is as easy as it has always been.
And cripling educational debt is easier than ever.
Yea, I suspect this plays a big role. Money doesn't buy happiness, but it sure helps in stabilizing mood and staving off despair. Unclear if this is helped or hurt by the econmic gap (I think a little of both). But there are probably plenty of other factors too. They note in the article that these patterns existed before COVID too (and were flipped as recently as the early 2000s for the childless/with children stats). We also know the pandemic also exacerbated the epidemic of loneliness, which is also measurable. Companionship would, naturally, ease the burden of isolation and disconnection (and make it worse in other ways haha). And busy-ness can help distract from some of those feelings, even while it increases stress (as mentioned in the segment).
Still, interesting findings. Not sure how to use it, though. The journey to marry and have kids, especially in a contemporary American Christian context, is a personal decision that still nevertheless feels driven by a whole lot of other external factors.
Flat worms crap out of their mouth. A one way digestive tract. And I learned that my daily walks do nothing to firm my behind. Running is out of the question, so I guess I gotta climb a lot of stairs. Rats.
At 43:00 Sky hit it out of the park. God NEVER created Democrats or Republicans so Why do we as Christians identify as anything other. If we belong to God and walk in the likeness of Jesus the Christ, then Why do we adorn secular ways? As Paul said, God forbid!
What about kangaroos. They run on 2 legs
Phil has this rearward fixation which could be taken to his therapy sessions for reflection.
Being able to repair American evangelism is a big assumption. In Matt. 7:21-23, Jesus said "many" that He doesn't know, are falsely using His name in their evangelical activities.....
Dickensian - not Dickenish😂😂
A little more intellectual spark and a whole lot less snark. Woke much? Why am I listening to this. Talk about privilege, trips on Safari, really?
Mentions colonizer in the first 5 minute. Tell me you are a liberal without telling me you are a liberal.🙄🙄
So you're saying there's no such thing as a colonizer?
Just trying to get clarification as to the world you're living in
@@greglogan7706 I don’t think they are saying that the Europeans didn’t colonise in Africa. But yes, they are obviously liberal. Kaitlyn being all like, “its so surprising that there are so many Christians in Rwanda, after our Christian colonising forefathers helped colonise the country.” That is a liberal mindset. Believing that the current state of affairs must will alway be because of centuries old oppression, regardless of anything that may have happened since.
I know this is how they think, because I’ve listened to their podcast for years.
@@thebishopoftherailway4719
Why is that liberal?
Why is simply describing reality as "liberal"?
Fascists? Antichrists? Deceivers?
So you're saying there's no current negative impacts on Rwanda because of European colonization?
And your choice of calling them "my" forefathers - isn't that really part of the woke left ideology...🤔 So I'm assuming you must be someone who's woke left... according to the fascist stereotype...🙂
It's frankly really sad that those of us who were Republican Evangelicals for 50 years experience "liberal" name calling freakouts when we talk about anything real. The whole point of this broadcast is ppl putting their outrageporn talking points as their identity in politics ABOVE their identity in Christ.
@Greg Logan according to the article the extreme right sees anyone on the left as liberal ie wrong. I'm assuming they disagree with what's being said by Kaitlyn so instead of engaging In a discussion which would require a minimum of being open to potentially being wrong, it's a lot easier to label her a liberal because that gives me the option of just saying no, she's wrong, I don't have to change. But I'm just assuming which means asses you and me which means... more news of the butt :😀
1.) Proclaim the Gospel (the doctrines of grace), both the lost as well as to yourself and your family. Not the Gospel plus works, not the Gospel plus social justice, not the Gospel plus “yeah but”, not Billy Graham’s “just say the sinner’s prayer”!, not “preach the Gospel every day and when necessary use words”. These are unbiblical, and not the Gospel. These are false gospels, and a false doctrine(s).
2.) Stop emasculating men. There are biblical expectations of what a man of God, and what a woman of God looks like. This is not sexism but biblically ordained roles.
3.) Call out false teachers by name, but specifically why; (i.e. Copeland, Osteen, Hinn, Dollar with the prosperity gospel…Vischer, Chandler, Keller, Platt with wokeness and CRT…Meyer, White, Moore with “preaching” to men….Robertson and Shirer with claiming to “hear God’s audible voice”….anyone in the emergent church movement (Bell, McLaren, Campolo)
4.) Have daily family worship with a reliable Bible translation (ESV, Legacy, NASB, NKJ,), do catechisms, worship in music with doctrinally sound hymns. Memorize scripture.
5.) Build up a doctrinally sound personal family library that includes the Puritans, the periodicals Banner of Truth, Table Talk, Answers, & Expositor, and works by Spurgeon, Lloyd-Jones, Luther, Ryle, Tozer, Flavel, Owen, MacArthur, Sproul, Baucham, Washer, Lawson, Mbewe, Begg, & Ferguson. Buy a copy of the 1689 London Baptist Confession, or the Westminster Confession. Spurgeon once said “Visit many good books, but live in the Bible”.
6.) Apply the Gospel to everything: Public Policy, how you vote, what you expose your children to, what you expose yourself to, whom you yoke fellowship with.
So tithe your mint and dill and gummy bears but neglect justice?
Hmm. Guy I know has opinions about that. You might have heard of him.
@@Justanotherconsumer
If that is what you got out of what I shared, you are in some sad, sad spiritual shape, my friend.
1.) Tithing is not commanded in the Bible 2 Corinthians 9:6-7. 2 Corinthians 8:12.
2.) The purpose of the Gospel is not “justice” nor to eliminate poverty. Matthew 26:11. It is to proclaim the urgency of lost man to turn from living in sin, to Christ, the Imago Dei, repent and believe the Gospel.
Anything else are fruits of genuine salvation; nor a means to it.
@@patrickc3419 why would Jesus have said that if he didn’t care about justice or think believers should care about it?
I am in a bit of a sad place, I’ll be honest. Ran across one of Kent Hovind’s unhinged rants. The best argument against Christianity is the behavior of people like him.
How on earth can you find a doctrinal excuse for being racially aware as anti-biblical? Aka CRT...
@@JustanotherconsumerOh I have always disavowed Hovind; nor do I know any genuine born again follower of Christ who takes him seriously. He is a conspiracy theorist, a convicted criminal, and someone who is biblically unqualified to be in any pastoral role in any way shape or form.