I found a 15’ long piece of 1/2” copper ground wire at the river last month. Now I’m wishing I didn’t leave it. Thinking I’m going to go throw on some waders and see if it’s still there. Thanks for the schooling!
Thanks for the vid. Its always nice to see what others are using to knapp out their killer points! I mentioned before I have been using solid copper rod under the knee. It works out good once you get used to its skinny diameter. It takes less striking force to flake pieces. The plastic seems to absorb some of the shock and a harder strike is usually needed while the solid rod the shock is more effective due to its lack of plastic shielding/holding structure.
Awesome videos! The copper grounding wire can be bought in any electrical supply house, but it's sold by a number, not a diameter. The tools you showed had #8, #6, and #4 bare copper, 8 being the smallest and 4 the largest. A foot of each size shouldn't cost more than a buck or so. I know this because I work in one of the big supply houses here in the Southeast. Keep the vids coming! Fascinating stuff. Thanks.
I couldn’t seem to find any of the plastic you use, so I got some 3/4” wooden dowel and 3/4” pvc pipe and hammered the dowel into the pipe, that was a tight fit, then I hammered a copper nail in the end and cut the head off the nail and it seems to work
1-1/4" diameter UHMW plastic. www.ebay.com/itm/224578394164?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=cHfvOieKSYm&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=1q_3LDvnSFK&var=524145172576&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY UHMW Black Plastic Mallet Zoro Select 1Yvk7 Black Uhmw-Pe Rod Stock 3 Ft. L, 1-1/4" Dia. www.ebay.com/itm/333994183040 1-1/2" x 12" long UHMW plastic rod, white www.ebay.com/itm/125109196934?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=DCyz93qFQV-&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=1q_3LDvnSFK&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
These tools are very interesting and I am fascinated by your knapping style! The secret to any knappers success is how well the knappers can utilize the tools he has available to him/her. Thanks for the up close look at your tool kit. I'll be watching for your hammerstone video! Hey if you have nothing to do August 23rd, 24th, and 25th, the Stone tool Craftsman show in Letchworth might be a fun time for you. -Paleoman52-
I seem to be getting mixed up on what size copper you have in each size plastic rod. is it 1/8 copper in the 3/4" plastic rod and 5/32 copper in the 1" plastic rod and 1/4 copper in the 1 1/4 plastic rod? thank you
OK, no wonder I couldn't find it. I was looking in the wrong part of the country. :-) It's a bit far away for me, so I won't be able to go this year. I love going to events, so I will keep in mind for the future.
Very good vid man, i have been using my antler for a pressure flaker. I cant seem to find copper ground wire. I didnt know you could use steel. I know you said on your notchers you use steel. Can you use it on your pressure flakers as well. or just too hard and wont grab the flint? thanks for the vid
So you drill the hole down the center, put some jb weld in there, then put the copper rod in there? What size copper rods do you use? How do you remove the copper rods?
@@seth6700 No. I was talking about fixing, re-drilling and re-fitting the set screw. You can drill out the knapping stick to whatever size copper rod you want. It's the set screw that holds it in place.
There are no videos, that I know of, that are only about abrading. The material I use is griding wheels that I break into chunks. You can see the abrading wheel I use as the end of this video: ua-cam.com/video/X5Jtc-no5yc/v-deo.html
Might sound like dumb question, but why copper must be used for knapping? Can`t steel do the same job? Steel is harder and cheaper and it should give advantage no?
I live in North Georgia. I like your vids. Especially your vid where you show how to tie a belt around the rod around your knee to hold it in place. Where can I buy the plastic rods from?
I need to find that video of how to tie the rod on. That’s been my greatest issue. Slows me down and really hard to get the damn thing to stay on the target when I get tired.
I have watched most of your vids many times and a few of them over and over...in preparation to attempt kidnapping .I have made all the abo. tools and have the plastic and copper for the modern tools. How deep do you drill the end of the rod for the copper tip.Thanks Vicki
Yes, I see what you mean about using the solid copper rod. I tried it when I first started using indirect but I kept bending the rod. What diameter of rod do you use?
Letchworth State Park is in Western New York State, 50 miles southeast of Buffalo and 50 miles south west of Rochester. If you google Letchworth Park you can get some info on the Park and see a map. Let me know if you are interested in coming to this event, and I'll get you more info.
Please remind me again in about a week. I'm going to buy some more material. I've got to see how much the material will cost first. I'll try to get back to you soon. :-)
Delrin is too soft and flexible. Some UHMW plastic is flexible too but most of the time it will be harder and tougher. To give you an idea how tough UHMW plastic is, I can knap with it in the same way as a soft antler billet.
Do you have a preferred temper for the copper rod? I found 1/4" rod on Amazon with a H04 temper (Hard). I am very inexperienced but it would seem that a H02 (half hard) would make a better tool. Of course I could be over thinking the problem :-)
I've never paid any attention to temper and I've never tried to alter it (twisting the copper, etc), so I'm not much help there. My advice would be to try everything and see how you like it. It can get expensive, though. if you are strapped for cash, try making friends with an electrician. :-)
Thanks - After a quick trip down the Wikipedia rabbit hole it looks like copper quickly work hardens so it probably doesn't matter. I am really enjoying your videos especially the tools and beginners series!
Yes, you can make money knapping. Hunting season is coming up and you can make money on hunting points and knife blades as long as the price is right. You'll need to experiment but average points should sell for $15 each and average knife blades for twice that. You can get more money as your reputation gets better.
I bought a 6' piece of the UHMW-PE rod in 3/4" but it is really flexible. Is the stuff you are using flexible or rigid? It looks like what you have is rigid and maybe tougher than what they sent me from "Zoro". Help....Please
Tracy Rocha Six feet (72") is a long piece and will be very flexible compared to a piece one foot (12") long. The stuff I use is not completely rigid like steel pipe, for example. It is supposed to bend a little and be "springy". I also find that it will stiffen up over time. Plastic that comes straight from the factory will sometimes be a little more rubbery, especially in warm weather.
Allergic Hobbit That makes sense, I think I will go ahead and use what they sent me. Incidentally, it was very reasonable priced from Zoro and I was able to find it on E-bay with a simple search of what you listed in your video (UHMW-PE Rod). All of your videos are very helpful and informative. Thanks so much for the response.
How deep is the copper rod inset into the plastic rod? As the copper nub wears do you have a method to expose more or do you just replace the whole rod? Thx!
Stoyan Stoyanov About 1-1/4" deep (maximum). One inch should be enough for copper up to 1/4" in diameter. Maybe 1-1/2" deep for 3/8" rods. I don't use anything bigger than 3/8" diameter.
@@KnapperJackCrafty There were 2 belts you wore on this one, can you give the link of them? Nobody knows here, I will give your name when they ask me who taught you these here. JACK CRAFTY
Thank you Jack for this video.
You're very welcome
You can use mild steel and get similar results. The softer the steel the better. Most carpentry nails work fine, for example.
Yeah, I used to have lots of drill bits. Over the past few years I've broken quite a few. I need to resupply.
Very helpful, especially on where to buy the supplies.
Sweet man nice tools Gene Gorringe Mi 👍✌️🇺🇲🇬🇧
I found a 15’ long piece of 1/2” copper ground wire at the river last month. Now I’m wishing I didn’t leave it. Thinking I’m going to go throw on some waders and see if it’s still there. Thanks for the schooling!
This is excellent! Thank you!
you're welcome.
Thanks for the vid. Its always nice to see what others are using to knapp out their killer points! I mentioned before I have been using solid copper rod under the knee. It works out good once you get used to its skinny diameter. It takes less striking force to flake pieces. The plastic seems to absorb some of the shock and a harder strike is usually needed while the solid rod the shock is more effective due to its lack of plastic shielding/holding structure.
I like your technique of knapping it looks very effective for thinning I'm going to be trying it out soon
Sweet
Thank ya sir
Awesome videos! The copper grounding wire can be bought in any electrical supply house, but it's sold by a number, not a diameter. The tools you showed had #8, #6, and #4 bare copper, 8 being the smallest and 4 the largest. A foot of each size shouldn't cost more than a buck or so. I know this because I work in one of the big supply houses here in the Southeast. Keep the vids coming! Fascinating stuff. Thanks.
I couldn’t seem to find any of the plastic you use, so I got some 3/4” wooden dowel and 3/4” pvc pipe and hammered the dowel into the pipe, that was a tight fit, then I hammered a copper nail in the end and cut the head off the nail and it seems to work
1-1/4" diameter UHMW plastic.
www.ebay.com/itm/224578394164?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=cHfvOieKSYm&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=1q_3LDvnSFK&var=524145172576&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
UHMW Black Plastic Mallet
Zoro Select 1Yvk7 Black Uhmw-Pe Rod Stock 3 Ft. L, 1-1/4" Dia.
www.ebay.com/itm/333994183040
1-1/2" x 12" long UHMW plastic rod, white
www.ebay.com/itm/125109196934?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=DCyz93qFQV-&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=1q_3LDvnSFK&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
@@KnapperJackCrafty thanks man that’s great, 🙏🏻👍
I like your flat tipped notching tool! Very informative video! 👍🏻
#2) I've been using 1/4 inch copper rod. It does tend to bend but that its easily straightened using a hammer stone on a solid flat surface.
UHMW PE -- Ultra High Molecular Weight Poly Ethylene
These tools are very interesting and I am fascinated by your knapping style! The secret to any knappers success is how well the knappers can utilize the tools he has available to him/her. Thanks for the up close look at your tool kit. I'll be watching for your hammerstone video! Hey if you have nothing to do August 23rd, 24th, and 25th, the Stone tool Craftsman show in Letchworth might be a fun time for you.
-Paleoman52-
nice hand writting
Thanks.
The plastic does absorb some energy but I like it. My hands and wrists are not as sore after a day of knapping.
Your English sounds good to me! I fully understand! Thank you!
Do think 1"1/4 round plastic rod mallet heavy enough for smaking indirect I ordered the the same thing u got😁
1-1/4" round is ok for a mallet.
horse shoe nails works great too and concrete nails cause they are heat treated wont wear down .
Yup
Funny. You answered my question as I was writing it.
I seem to be getting mixed up on what size copper you have in each size plastic rod.
is it 1/8 copper in the 3/4" plastic rod
and 5/32 copper in the 1" plastic rod
and 1/4 copper in the 1 1/4 plastic rod?
thank you
Yes. Perfect
OK, no wonder I couldn't find it. I was looking in the wrong part of the country. :-)
It's a bit far away for me, so I won't be able to go this year. I love going to events, so I will keep in mind for the future.
Nice!
Thanks.
Very good vid man, i have been using my antler for a pressure flaker. I cant seem to find copper ground wire. I didnt know you could use steel. I know you said on your notchers you use steel. Can you use it on your pressure flakers as well. or just too hard and wont grab the flint? thanks for the vid
Your work is amazing bro!!!!
Thanks!
I used an apple branch- it lasted a few hours, but it was to thin and cracked. I found a fatter, 1 1/2" peach branch, I will try it out tommorow
I hope to find an antler.
Can you use tree limbs for the rods
ie indirect percussion?
Yep. But they wear out fast. They will crack if you're hitting the wood part.
I fill them w/ JB weld or epoxy and then re-drill when the sets start to wear or crack.
Nice.
So you drill the hole down the center, put some jb weld in there, then put the copper rod in there? What size copper rods do you use? How do you remove the copper rods?
@@seth6700 No. I was talking about fixing, re-drilling and re-fitting the set screw. You can drill out the knapping stick to whatever size copper rod you want. It's the set screw that holds it in place.
valuable knowage....thanks...saved this for later referance...
Also, can you direct me to some abrading instruction videos (how to abrade and what easy-to-find tools I can use to abrade with)?
There are no videos, that I know of, that are only about abrading. The material I use is griding wheels that I break into chunks. You can see the abrading wheel I use as the end of this video: ua-cam.com/video/X5Jtc-no5yc/v-deo.html
This has been so useful thanks for posting.
Just a question do you think they used indirect percussion to knapp in pre-history?
Yes. Indirect percussion was used. How do I know? Because they were probably smarter than I am.
Might sound like dumb question, but why copper must be used for knapping? Can`t steel do the same job? Steel is harder and cheaper and it should give advantage no?
Yes, steel works but it is more "slippery" than copper. Copper is better for the sides. Steel is better for the notches.
I live in North Georgia. I like your vids. Especially your vid where you show how to tie a belt around the rod around your knee to hold it in place. Where can I buy the plastic rods from?
I buy the plastic rods from eBay or grainger.com
Survivalnerd what part of Georgia do you live in? I'm looking for some Georgia flint, chert ??
I need to find that video of how to tie the rod on. That’s been my greatest issue. Slows me down and really hard to get the damn thing to stay on the target when I get tired.
Where is Letchworth? Sounds interesting.
I have watched most of your vids many times and a few of them over and over...in preparation to attempt kidnapping .I have made all the abo. tools and have the plastic and copper for the modern tools. How deep do you drill the end of the rod for the copper tip.Thanks Vicki
only one inch
Yes, I see what you mean about using the solid copper rod. I tried it when I first started using indirect but I kept bending the rod. What diameter of rod do you use?
if u use 5/16 copper rods and shape the tips to size u want it wont bend as much i use drill its for steel rods
@@FunHobbies225 sounds good.
Drill bits! Thanks
Letchworth State Park is in Western New York State, 50 miles southeast of Buffalo and 50 miles south west of Rochester. If you google Letchworth Park you can get some info on the Park and see a map. Let me know if you are interested in coming to this event, and I'll get you more info.
What would you charge to make me a set like the one at 6:52? The three indirect percussion flakers and the mallet.
Please remind me again in about a week. I'm going to buy some more material. I've got to see how much the material will cost first. I'll try to get back to you soon. :-)
Patrick love the
videos of question for you why do you use ultra high molecular weight polyethylene over Delrin I
Delrin is too soft and flexible. Some UHMW plastic is flexible too but most of the time it will be harder and tougher. To give you an idea how tough UHMW plastic is, I can knap with it in the same way as a soft antler billet.
Do you have a preferred temper for the copper rod? I found 1/4" rod on Amazon with a H04 temper (Hard). I am very inexperienced but it would seem that a H02 (half hard) would make a better tool. Of course I could be over thinking the problem :-)
I've never paid any attention to temper and I've never tried to alter it (twisting the copper, etc), so I'm not much help there. My advice would be to try everything and see how you like it. It can get expensive, though. if you are strapped for cash, try making friends with an electrician. :-)
Thanks - After a quick trip down the Wikipedia rabbit hole it looks like copper quickly work hardens so it probably doesn't matter. I am really enjoying your videos especially the tools and beginners series!
#8 bare cu wire #10 bare cu wire is the smaller one.
Awesome
I can get all that stuff from work. And just have the cost taken from my check. Anyway can you make money knapping?
Yes, you can make money knapping. Hunting season is coming up and you can make money on hunting points and knife blades as long as the price is right. You'll need to experiment but average points should sell for $15 each and average knife blades for twice that. You can get more money as your reputation gets better.
@@KnapperJackCrafty thank you
Looks like 10 AWG FOR THE 1/8th in and maybe 8 AWG for the 5/32 in. AWG=american wire gauge.
I bought a 6' piece of the UHMW-PE rod in 3/4" but it is really flexible. Is the stuff you are using flexible or rigid? It looks like what you have is rigid and maybe tougher than what they sent me from "Zoro". Help....Please
Tracy Rocha Six feet (72") is a long piece and will be very flexible compared to a piece one foot (12") long. The stuff I use is not completely rigid like steel pipe, for example. It is supposed to bend a little and be "springy". I also find that it will stiffen up over time. Plastic that comes straight from the factory will sometimes be a little more rubbery, especially in warm weather.
Allergic Hobbit That makes sense, I think I will go ahead and use what they sent me. Incidentally, it was very reasonable priced from Zoro and I was able to find it on E-bay with a simple search of what you listed in your video (UHMW-PE Rod). All of your videos are very helpful and informative. Thanks so much for the response.
Tracy Rocha Cool. I'm glad to see the price is still cheap. I need to get more myself. I'll check on Zoro... :-)
Nice tools :-)
Bugin One Thanks!
can you use nails insted of coper wire
Yes.
+JackCrafty thankd
How deep is the copper rod inset into the plastic rod? As the copper nub wears do you have a method to expose more or do you just replace the whole rod? Thx!
It's about 1-1/2" deep and I add pieces of rod into the bottom to make it stick out more.
@@KnapperJackCrafty so you have a hole drilled through the center of the whole length of the plastic?
@@seth6700 no, just an inch or so.
@@KnapperJackCrafty so you go in an inch or so and keep it secure with a piece of fabric that you stuff in there with it?
@@seth6700 yep
How deep the copper rod goes into the plastic?
Stoyan Stoyanov About 1-1/4" deep (maximum). One inch should be enough for copper up to 1/4" in diameter. Maybe 1-1/2" deep for 3/8" rods. I don't use anything bigger than 3/8" diameter.
Could I make the handle from wood dowel?
Wood is too weak. It will split.
Would brass rod work also?
No. Brass is too "bouncy" and slick. It will not grip onto the stone.
What site did you get it from?
I get most of my materials from Ebay or grainger.com
@@KnapperJackCrafty There were 2 belts you wore on this one, can you give the link of them? Nobody knows here, I will give your name when they ask me who taught you these here. JACK CRAFTY
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@@KnapperJackCrafty Thank you
Ultra High Molecular Weight Poly Ethylene = UHMW - PE
Yes
He sounds like Nicholas cage hahaha