The Best Martial Art for Self Defense On a Bus? | Ultimate Self Defense Championship Breakdown
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- Опубліковано 5 кві 2023
- Go watch Episode 1 of The Ultimate Self Defense Championship on @MartialArtsJourney here: • The Ultimate Self-Defe...
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Go watch the first episode here: ua-cam.com/video/JU3nOrEfN70/v-deo.html
Been waiting for these episodes! SO hyped! :D Best collab ever!!!
best collab I've ever seen. Props to all involved 👏👏👏
Yeah that front kick was pretty crisp
Basically train like a knight.
Actually i did notice that you were intentionally going upside down every time lol. I thought it was weird at first, but i figured since you were a smaller fighter compared to your opponents, you'd end up on your back anyway, so you were pre-emptivly doing it in a way that gave you more of an advantage.
Or you were just experimenting lol. Since you are a teacher and it is a rare opportunity to figure out what works and what doesnt in such a common public location.
The Ultimate Self Defense Challenge is such an amazing concept, and the first episode did not disappoint. Can't wait to see more!
I was disappointed: episode length needs to be 45min
@@thegreg9800 Yes.
For sure! I hope in the next episodes they will try other narrow places to fight like an elevator or a public toilet.
@@2xmachina36 I got a idea why don't you fly some people out to Sydney, host a intire competition, edit everything, pay for all of that and pay for the editors, then you can complain
No it's not? This is not new? This is how you should be training if you truly are training for real world self defense.
Mike you are an absolute beast! Not sure if I should have won our round as that up kick would have KO'd me in a real situation. Pleasure meeting you and hanging out with you!
You're too kind. Can't wait to upkick you again.
@@hard2hurt 😂🤣
Imagine renting that bus, & telling the guy what you want it for.
I would need my mom to call for me lol.
"Sir, would you like the extra insurance?"
"OH YEAH."
Cost me twice as much as normal but I’m sure you’d agree we’ll worth it!
Only in Australia mate!
😂
This whole show is epic. All the boring reality show crap is edited out. It’s all self defense drills, jokes, and ridiculous hijinks. Rokas has done a really good job on everything.
I'm pretty sure Rokas will be asked to cut a reality show video out of all the material of this event as well :D
Rokas also has really interesting content, his videos about adapting different martial arts styles are great.
Agreed
This is honestly better than the current edition of the Ultimate Fighter
I am a bus driver in my hometown, and due to the occupational hazards that come along with that, I have recently begun an intense program of MMA training. This is definitely the video I needed to see.
Lol if you thought "too bad there's not a video specifically for me..." you were wrong!
What was it like to face Jeff Chan? His sparring vids make him look like an absolute monster. Excellent range management, bottomless gas tank, high work rate.
He is very technically skilled. He and I sparred as well... he is releasing a video on it.
"You know Icy Mike?"
-"Who?"
"You know, the guy with the highest level of jiujutsu."
-"Ah, right, I know him"
Of course I know him...
@@hard2hurt "he's me" :-)
He is hard to hurt
I said this before on rokas's channel but i'll do it again, for the smaller guy in alot of these matches you did really well dude!
This is exactly the breakdown I was hoping to see. I think people forget how dangerous upkicks are too, your opponents all knew how to mitigate that danger because of they are all well trained but to someone not managing the distance and the danger, they could easily get taken out with one or 2 good up kicks
I wish they had a bunch of untrained guys to square off against you all too so we could see what difference training actually makes both in defending and attacking
That would be cool but also dangerous lol
A lot of BJJ schools when teaching guard passes do not emphasise on upkick defense.
@@PHIplaytesting yeah good point lol maybe just grab some military guys that are up for fun bus times and a cool story
@@anon2034 thats because they dont incorporate any kind of striking (even just touch contact) which is a major flaw with how its taught in my opinion
@@driver3899 I agree!
Saw this, great fun. Especially the upside down knees by some sneaky bastard!
Best martial art on a bus is upside down muay thai.
@@hard2hurt Genki Sudo would be proud.
At 4:31 Seth 'reluctantly' realised he had to use a cheap attack. At 4:32 Seth is speed-bagging Mike in the nuts 😂.
Glad to have you visit my country, Mike, can't wait to have a a guest again.
We promise not to punch you in the groin next time.
Well then why would I come back?
Greco/Muay Thai Clinching, Muay Thai Elbows and Knees, and BJJ guard were the main takeaways I got from watching the episode.
None of the Jiu Jitsu was high level sure but it proved to be very helpful. Plus Rear Naked Chokes are great for self defense in general. Even standing
Judo would of been great particularly throws.
@@mitchjames9350 no especially throws would not be good here.
@@PaladinJackal did you see Seth when grabbed use throws to beat his attackers.
@@mitchjames9350 no he did not. That was a different video and challenge
@@PaMuShin Throws not great here. Being good at grappling in general is great
This reminded me of the bus fight scene from the movie 'Nobody'. And without a beard you would even look like Bob Odenkirk in the movie
Great movie!
I've heard that before.
@@Docinaplane Agreed 💯
I don't think I've seen anyone actually go this far to test martial arts in a real life situation before, that's some fascinating stuff.
Man it's almost a crime that Shane Fazen wasn't on this self defense Challenge
Let us pray to UA-cam that we get a bigger and badder Season 2 one day, but let us also be grateful for what we are getting now.
We traded shane for ramsey and I'm ok with that this time since we got shane in the last collab.
Yeah Mike Shane Fazen and Gabriel Varga should have been there
Rokas did invite him but he couldn't make it.
Would have had his ass kicked
The second episode seems to be crazy🔥🔥🔥
It was crazy.
Seat n beat 😂
I'm very proud... it came to me in the moment.
Gold
That bus fight was the most epic thing I've ever seen that wasn't on the big screen with sfx. You're all legends!
Kudos for participating Mike.
Icy Mike as always with spot on breakdowns. Yes, sir, it was you who showed more advanced techniques inverting guard and also the most ofensive in grappling, consistently. What the other masters in this competition showed was high-level low-risk manuevers. It's the front kick practiced 10,000 times. But you were the one with the """situational awareness""" and clear mind to risk the most while almost getting the huge reward. And so as they say that ofense may be the best defense, "ofensive stalling" it's perfect for dealing with an attacker in this context.
Offensively stalling lol that's deep
This is a dream becoming true, lot of the best guys I can watch and learn from, getting together and doing man stuff with fighting. You guys are my heros
The 5'5" guy does a lot of up kicks. You don't say.
It's kinda my jam.
My most anticipated scrap was Icy Mike vs Ramsey Dewey. I truly enjoyed everything about the First Episode! Loved the upside down showing mike did the most jujitsu!
It did seem that Ramsey essentially took the least damage. Maybe he doesn't walk away with all the Wins...but he's definitely walking away. Which is probably what most of us would care about if we were pulled into a fight on a bus (or train or airplane, or car, etc.)
@@sirbobulous ooooo good point! The guys with more focus on stand up for sure looked great but Ramsey may have been a more complete technician and they could’ve each been caught and finished at different points.
Also because Jeff and Seth looked so confident with their striking maybe the “judging” favored striking like a UFC match.
We're rooting for you Mike. Bring home that belt
This caught my attention because I have actually witnessed a pretty brutal fight in a bus here in Brazil.
A big,, strong, muscled dude was apparently on drugs, yelling, punching the seat in front of him and intimidating everyone. I was seating right behind. Eventually, the guy in front of him snapped, stood up and started punching and front-kicking him in the face (while holding on to the top bars). He was a regular looking but tall construction worker type. He did quite a lot of damage to the guy's face and I was amazed that the guy wasn't knocked out.
The big dude had practically no reaction and just got out of the bus when the driver stopped.
What i found most enlightening about the bus episode is how little punching/kicking technique mattered. Despite all of you guys being trained martial artists, it always degenerated into mostly basic grappling/wrestling techniques and brawl style punching/elbowing
Definitely a robbery on that point against Matt. That was a tactical, well-thought out, and well executed sequence.
Love the breakdown, can’t wait for the rest of the episodes!!
Icy Mike is such a dynamic Power Bottom.
Mike, try BPC-157 for your knee, YMMV, but I had ACL and torn Meniscus reconstruction surgery less than a month ago and it seems to speed healing and reduces pain w/o any real side effects besides being $40 a bottle. May help you heal w/o surgery.
Snicker.
This is what i was waiting for : hearing your takes about the experience :D Thanks Mike !
Edit : personnally i thought you were the most creative. I cant wait to see the hooligan storm in for the next episode.
I agree here, Muay Thai clinch seems most effective here. If you know what a guard is and how to defend some submission attempts. Great format by the way. I'm really impressed with what Rokas put up!
I commented under the original video that you won the fight with Matt. I love Matt, really funny guy who knows his shit (And a fellow Aussie), but you definitely won that.
Those headbutts and elbows plus that amazing front kick were really something
I thought he won too. I was surprised by the decision.
Yep, I 100% agree. Front kick, slammed him back followed by some nasty elbows- Mike won.
The LIMPING away definitely threw the judges.
@@handroids1981 If they didn't have head guards the elbows could have probably knocked them out what's worse I guy who can't walk or not guy who's knocked out
I feel like the show is tilted towards Matt having a "surprise come from behind" victory.
Seeing you kick the knife out of the guy's hand in episode 2 was so badass haha
What an awesome idea for a show! I was actually shouting armbar! armbar! as you were setting up that inverted armbar. Super fun to watch.
I love how you explain it all and gave us a clearer insight on the video. Thank you for the lesson!
Amazing drill 👏 all of you were fighting with intention. Your series will definitely open everyone's eyes about self defense and what it takes to survive in reality.💪🙏
Thank you all once again for bringing this amazing series👍
It's crazy how very few do Greco but the clinch game you get from it makes you a man among boys. It is amazing how bad very good wrestlers can be at the clinch game. Most styles of grappling dont promote it and it's not fun to learn. I have kids not show up on Greco days. They just don't like being forced to clinch.
I gotta say. This did not disappoint. Lot's to unpack from multiple perspectives. Great job guys.
So, what I have learned is that Mike's elbows are the picture perfect definition of damage, according to the show/competition.
Edit: Also, he's comfortable fighting upside down as much as he is upright, which basically makes him Spider-Man.
thwip!
seth has yet to break out the sidekick. it will be #1!
Muay Thai is awesome for "street fighting". Some of the Thai instructors from around Oldham, where I used to live, worked on the doors at local clubs. They proved the effectiveness of what they taught in that environment.
Great fun! Glad no one blew out one of those giant windows and followed it down to road rash gulch.
2:30 Seat and Beat is now the official term for this self-defense scenario. Thank you, Mike.
Awesome stuff Mike! I've watched a lot of your videos but had no idea you were doing this until now, can't wait to see the episodes 👍
Those knees Ramsey threw looked mad painful. Given its such a tight, confined space. I'd say knees, elbows and stand up grappling control would win in that scenario.
One thing I've noticed in the video is that in many situations (in a normal bus ofc) it would be easier to deploy the emergency hammer on a window than to reach for a gun or other implement on your person. It was surprisingly educational, despite really awkward angles and footage not showing actual, like, attempted murder
I loved this breakdown and these episodes were so much fun to watch. The only thing I would say about what you said about BJJ is that for the most part improvement in it is just getting better and better at the stuff you learn as a white belt. A basic armbar is going to be dramatically different from a white belt and a black belt. That being said I do basically agree with you that the greco roman wrestling was so important
Most martial arts are about mastering the fundamentals than accumulating flashier techniques, especially Wing Chun. We agree.
Yup. That's why the white belts stop practicing scissor sweeps and basic armbars, because they "don't work," but then a purple or black belt hits them with it. There's a huge difference between knowing a technique, and being able to do it effectively in sparring, and that difference is years of practice.
I heard about the show just yesterday and loved both episodes. It helped that I follow most of the instructors and it was extremely inspiring to see all them finally meet.
It's worth pointing out that Seth, who is almost entirely a karateka, did SUPER well on the bus challenge.
I have to disagree on the "almost entirely a karateka" bit. 😄Not only has he dipped his toes in every martial art on the planet but he has years of muay thai experience and he just got second place at a national sumo competition, and probably some other stuff I don't know about. He probably has the most experience in different martial arts of anyone in the competition. Also he's huge lol.
I wonder if the sumo has helped him on the bus. Being explosive, strong. And balanced in that way.
He's also very very competitive. When points are available he has laser focus.
And he's huge.
The big kick on the get go!
Yes, with an immense size advantage
Rokas pulling off the RNC made me happy
Loved the first episode! Amazing concept and love how all you guys stepped up to the challenge. Respect to everyone involved.
I use to train Okinawan karate as a kid. We would practice fighting our way out of a porter can. Good times. Hadn't had the chance. For a bus tho. I've also trained fighting my way out of a car and into.
Careful, mike hates karate
@Slider X But he likes Jesse so it's a toss up.. 😊
@@peartree8338 thats a person. Jesse is too nice not to like. I would've loved to see them spar.
This is the type of content that would've glued me to the TV if it was on TV back in the days. Great stuff
I LOVE this series you all are doing.
the show was great and I want a icyMike Breakdown of each episode
It's been great seeing you in the USDC so far! Definitely looking forward to the upcoming episode
Growing up in South London I've had countless fights on busses. Try a double decker bus, the stairs add a whole new element.
The show is great- thank you so much for doing it.
I'm so thankfull for this video. I hope you do more on every single episode of the series!
That front kick will be remembered for generations, nice content!
Great idea.
Great execution.
Thanks for keeping it fresh.
The fight between you and Matt was gnarly. Loved it.
Amazing and thanks for producing quality.
Glad to see this video! I was thinking a lot about this when watching. Fighting techniques were all very simple stuff. Headbutts, elbows, knees, a few regular punches and a few front kicks, and standard wrestling.
Could relatively simply make a whole style out of it. Not a lot of moves to learn. Very interesting to watch.
I mean it makes sense. When thrown into self defense situations most people resort to some kind of ugly boxing. I honestly think Randy Coutures old dirty boxing and wrestling is the ultimate street fighting combination, I think he’d fight like that in his sleep and most people could train some kind of competence in it.
This is entertainment and we're loving ❤️ it. Fresh content.
This was actually a really cool analysis, I appreciate it a lot.
The whole show is really well done and cant wait for episode 3
Would've been really cool to see someone with a judo background on that bus, and whether there was enough space to throw anyone. And also how Kevin, who's similar size to Mike, might've handled the size difference differently
I think he would have done better because he has all my skills, plus more.
perfect way to finish the day new hard2hurt!
PM uploads are a new thing for me!
@@hard2hurt I dig it!
10:30 "Good Ol' Rock. Nothing Beats That."
What a great idea and how cool of you to al make it materialize!
Kickboxer: I’m a standing fighter
BJJ: I’m a ground fighter
Me: I’m more of a school bus guy
This video was interesting to me, because I was assaulted when I was a taxi driver. He sucker punched me from the backseat with a hook shot and I elbowed him directly in the face. I was enraged, because the drivers seat and center console were in my way. I was too busy covering and striking to reach the back release on the drivers seat. I had to turn myself 180 and kneel on the drivers seat to be able to engage my assailant. I almost got my thumb in his eye socket, but the drivers seat limited my reach. He was able to get distance by going back to the opposite corner of the cab. It was a lot harder to deliver punches kneeling on the drivers seat also. For awhile the POS switched sides and got cover behind the drivers seat. I got out through the drivers door to come around to F him up and then he got out of the other side of the taxi. At that point I had to get control of myself and I jumped back in the drivers seat locked the doors and sped off. The police found him, because he was stupid enough to come back out from where he was hiding. The police told me I should get counseling, because I could become a really “bad person” and I shouldn’t want to take peoples eyes out. If the laws and courts were rational, I would have been able to just deploy my knife and start stabbing and cutting. However, I was able to beat him hard enough to leave him with stitches and knock an earring off his head. He’s lucky the police arrived when he came out, but he was near where he was staying, so maybe he had a weapon. Obviously, I’m done with taxi driving. 😂
Love this breakdown
Totally thought you beat Matt, too! That kick was the tidiest hit of the whole episode.
In the meanwhile episode 1 & 2 are out. It s so amazing. Please more content. Best wishes from germany
😍 can’t wait to see ep 2
"Seat and beat"! This is amazing. I hope you give commentary to every episode of the inaugural USDC.
Loved this breakdown
It was amazing to watch the championship. You are still my favorite
The end of the video was super interesting ! Thanks a lot :)
Icy Mike well done! “Food for thought”
Great analysis.
Great video Mike!
What a fantastic series
You guys should all be together and make a film. That'd be awesome. Keep rocking Icy
Rooting for you to get that belt icy!
Torn minuscus for sure. Got the same probleme for years. Hitting legs in de gym alots and knee over toe help me alot, give it a go!
Great conclusion, mauy Tai & wrestling!
Man.. fighting inside the bus sucks! No space to kick or punch. Everyone needs to have this kind of training if they want to LEARN to defend themselves(of course in advance stages of their training). Because of absolute resistance from the attacker, feeling of claustrophobia in close space and desperation to get up is very frustrating and stressful. Not everyone can train themselves in self defense like this. Hard truth!
Agreed 1000%
Oh man, i watched the first episode and i needed this video xD
That front kick was lovely. Everything about it
I LOVE THIS!! There isn't the "desperation" per sey as there might be with someone fighting for their life..but the idea of "maintaining a cool head", environmental tactical advantage, and idea of literal inverted concepts are displayed fairly well🤔😯 I appreciate the theology, and definitely the work!!💪Y'all are pioneers!! Keep it comin!!🤜🤛
It’s a pretty awesome concept, like the moving bus, stuff in the way and competitive aspect has to add to the adrenaline dump in a way that’s harder to replicate in any kind of sparring. I think Mike’s creativity and willingness to try odd techniques (even if wasn’t always effective) gives him opportunities to evolve in other competitions. Like dealing with someone larger like Seth bum rushing everyone because his style didn’t change much against each other combatant.
I am rooting for you Icy Mike!
I'm trying!
This entire collab is history in the making
Mike vs Jeff = 1 vs 1 cops 👮♂️.
It‘s an excellent idea - we do this once a year with a standard public transport bus at my Sensei‘s dojo here in Germany (we‘re not allowed drive it around though). Poles that you normally hold on to, become great weapons to drive heads into and lock arms around. And the limited distance is a huge factor - it is a real test of fighting ability.
Sensei Seth really suprised me in the first episode. Get 'em Man of a Thousand Martial Arts.
I will keep this in mind
The series is a must watch. Saw episodes 1 & 2; 3 is coming out April 16th.