HOW TO INCREASE THE RANGE OF A HANDHELD RADIO WITH AN EXTERNAL ANTENNA!!!

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  • @Superfandangoo
    @Superfandangoo 10 місяців тому +5

    Andy mate toss that coax out, 10 meters of that rg58 you've over a 3.5 db loss on vhf & uhf.
    Its ok for hf and very short runs vhf.
    if your ht tx is pushing 4.5w your tx is less than 2w at the antenna, rg8x isn't much better.
    Throw some LMR400 up it will noticeably increase tx & rx

  • @donbunson5031
    @donbunson5031 10 місяців тому +4

    My partner uses the smallest radio with the smallest antenna so she can just tuck it in a pocket and use a headset. She's on 5w with less than a inch antenna. She can range a mile or two in a built up area and even go into the supermarket and I can still chat to her from home on my diamond x50. I am using 5w also. The Diamond x50 makes so much difference.

  • @pauldutchamateurradio
    @pauldutchamateurradio 10 місяців тому +1

    Another great video Andy. Saturday I had a QSO on 70cm with my Baofeng UV5R with a portable Diamond RH771 antenna with a guy with a vertical home-base antenna quite high-up 12km (7.5 miles) away. The signal was good. He was in one town and I was in the middle of a small town.

    • @andykirby
      @andykirby  10 місяців тому

      That's brilliant, I love these sort of tests!👍🏼

  • @PEMFron
    @PEMFron 10 місяців тому

    Hi Andy. I'm have been subscribed to your channel for a while. I'm a Radio Ameture from South Derbyshire. I like your channel because you enjoy ebikes. I moved to a hilly place. I ordered an Eskuta sx250 series iii. I have been driving around my new area for three weeks. I'm 71 and look like I'm 51. Have been here for 2 years. But because every time you go down hill you have to go uphill. My mountain bike is not good enough for uphill. So I feel like it's Christmas when I go out on it. I have done about 80 miles in three weeks. Its great fun. I have kept my mountain bike because I want to turn it into a ebike to play about with. Thanks for your channel, always interesting, fun and informative . All the best Ron

  • @bulldogbrower6732
    @bulldogbrower6732 10 місяців тому +1

    Good testing, can’t wait till you test again at more distant locations. There wasn’t even a hiss in your transmissions, I’m sure you could go further. Thanks from across the pond.

  • @Dave64track
    @Dave64track 10 місяців тому +1

    Great video quite surprising what a difference that loop antenna makes even in the loft. 👍

  • @Dusty_Ham
    @Dusty_Ham 10 місяців тому

    That antenna worked quite well! Great video Andy, It's always great to see real world tests. 73

  • @stevenyemc
    @stevenyemc 10 місяців тому +1

    Great vidjao dude! I made a leftover plumbing pipe J-pole and stuck it in the loft. Get the blowtorch out as it seems to work great!

    • @stevenyemc
      @stevenyemc 10 місяців тому

      PS I asked Lewis to have a go. about two years ago.

  • @volkerking5932
    @volkerking5932 10 місяців тому

    Thank you Andy for this nice Video we're doing the range test with a Motorola MT5400 (Tetra) on the 33 Floor to a 25km hand held MT850 and it worked. The Slot range is there for the Tetra on the end! 73

    • @andykirby
      @andykirby  10 місяців тому

      That's good for tetra, are you planning on using the MT5400 as a repeater? That would be interesting.😁

  • @LWRC
    @LWRC 8 місяців тому

    You should have used a 7 element beam mounted on top of a 100ft tower with a rotor directing the antenna towards the other tranceiver!!!

  • @jiriwichern
    @jiriwichern 8 місяців тому

    As you seem to be using DMR in this example, it is an all or nothing proposition. If the signal reception is good enough, you'll get full modulation through and there is a bit of error correction in the protocol so a few missing bits isn't a real problem... but the drop off point is very sudden. One bit too much not being discerned means unable to decode means lost signal. It would be interesting how analog holds up at that distance, as noise taking over, over distance, on analog usually is a gradual process. Such a small loop antenna is also interesting. Currently I'm experimenting with a ~15cm diameter circular bent piece of aluminum layered plastic water pipe and a small variable capacitor to see if I can make a proper 2 meter antenna out of that. If I can tin the clean filed aluminum spots where the pipe ends meet, that is (I should have some caustic soda soon to make a solution that can break the oxide layer, hopefully that will make the tin stick). Anyway, greetings from the Netherlands, PG8W, 73.

  • @juliodefreitas157
    @juliodefreitas157 10 місяців тому

    10 /4 big buddy, modulation is wall to wall, copy ..Absolutely awesome ❤❤❤❤

  • @MrLasersound
    @MrLasersound 10 місяців тому

    Love the presentation and impressed with that music track, just Brilliant 😁😁🎶🎶🎹🎹

  • @unixbehr
    @unixbehr 26 днів тому

    its all about the power you have for output...

  • @toby000000
    @toby000000 10 місяців тому

    Great test, worth noting the loop will be bi-directional when vertical. The signal will be firing through the loop opening (if that makes sense). There will be very little signal radiated off the ends

    • @andykirby
      @andykirby  10 місяців тому

      Yeah, basically like a dipole as I understand it, you'll have two lobes front and back.

  • @adamgrundy9709
    @adamgrundy9709 10 місяців тому

    Spot on Andy as always. I’ve actually just got a diamond x50 in the loft which isn’t configured ideally. This little thing tweaks my interest a bit for accessing local repeaters if it’s any good!

    • @Superfandangoo
      @Superfandangoo 10 місяців тому +1

      Stay with your Diamond x50 your collinear antenna is far better
      2E0IKJ 73

    • @andykirby
      @andykirby  10 місяців тому +1

      Yes the diamond will be better, however these are pretty good as extra antennas for accessing local repeaters as he said.

  • @CosmologDiraEinstformula
    @CosmologDiraEinstformula 10 місяців тому

    Satellite dish in focus add cantenna with cable at quater radio wavelength

  • @StreakyP
    @StreakyP 10 місяців тому

    One suggestion.... DON'T use the solid straight "Christmas tree" PL259 to SMA adaptor to go between the co-ax & the tiny little connector on the top of the radio. Although it does work the small rig-top sma connector is very fragile & an accidental tug on the co-ax combined with the solid "lever length" of a long adaptor can easily rip the connector out. Instead you can get simple little flexible co-ax "flying tails" with a SMA on one end & the big so239 on the other. Being flexible this way there is no big long lever to pull the rig socket out & you are less likely to damage things.

  • @attilarivera
    @attilarivera 4 місяці тому

    Sir. 5w + external antenna = signal goes around 7km.
    👍

  • @hamshackleton
    @hamshackleton 10 місяців тому

    The other way is to stand on the top of a nearby hill, etc. (and I am licensed M0- - ) VHF/UHF is line of sight, so the higher either end of the link is, the further away it can be 'seen', domestic and industrial noise permitting. So VHF can talk to the moon, but not Australia, while HF is reflected by the Van Allen belts, so can talk to Australia, but not the moon.

    • @andykirby
      @andykirby  10 місяців тому

      Correct!👍🏼

    • @cottonfoo
      @cottonfoo 10 місяців тому +1

      HF is reflected by the ionosphere.

    • @hamshackleton
      @hamshackleton 10 місяців тому

      @@cottonfoo And where do you think the ionosphere is?

  • @Ploggy.
    @Ploggy. 10 місяців тому

    Great vid Andy and thanks for the link 👍

  • @new_fone_who_dis
    @new_fone_who_dis 10 місяців тому

    I think we had the same power cut over here in Hatfield!

  • @Dougsterxplor
    @Dougsterxplor 10 місяців тому

    Nice one. I was up the local hills in Glasgow today with my Quansheng!! MM7DCD

    • @andykirby
      @andykirby  10 місяців тому +1

      Nice! Any good contacts?

    • @Dougsterxplor
      @Dougsterxplor 10 місяців тому

      @@andykirby so much for 145 Alive but got some pals on local repeater and 2m.

  • @LWRC
    @LWRC 8 місяців тому

    It would be interesting to test the range both on analog and digital!!!

  • @Jim-oh2ip
    @Jim-oh2ip 10 місяців тому

    It appears they don't sell Sharman HLP-270 in the U.S.

  • @howardcowan2093
    @howardcowan2093 10 місяців тому

    Thanks Andy another great video. 73

  • @brian.7966
    @brian.7966 10 місяців тому +1

    all you have to do is send in 3 cornflake packet tops and you have cracked it.

  • @stephendonkin5497
    @stephendonkin5497 10 місяців тому

    Really good watch Andy, please can you do the night glasses what you had on earlier in the year

    • @andykirby
      @andykirby  10 місяців тому +1

      Yeah I'll try and do another vid on those. Also have some range finders 😁

  • @stevenyemc
    @stevenyemc 10 місяців тому

    Could ya do a vidjao on how to get the foundation online? Cant seem to get myself organized.

  • @wheelersecuritygroup
    @wheelersecuritygroup 4 місяці тому

    I live in the USA. Can you recommend and GMRS external antenna to put in my loft to do the same? I have a Wouxun KG935-G & KG-UV9G.

  • @paulkay1893
    @paulkay1893 10 місяців тому

    Well done Andy, have you recently got your intermediate,

  • @redeyegooner
    @redeyegooner 10 місяців тому

    Have you seen the ERMAK sdr transceiver kit? Would love to know your thoughts on that 🧠

  • @TonyLing
    @TonyLing 10 місяців тому +1

    Isn't a halo vertically polarised even when orientated flat?

    • @andykirby
      @andykirby  10 місяців тому +3

      It's basically a half wave dipole bent into a loop so if you mount it vertically it will be vertically polarised.

  • @johnorrells3797
    @johnorrells3797 10 місяців тому

    Loop antenna used vertical polarisation is not omni directional

    • @andykirby
      @andykirby  10 місяців тому

      I didn't say it was, it's basically a dipole.

  • @Mike-H_UK
    @Mike-H_UK 10 місяців тому

    I'm assuming that this was 70cm as opposed to 2m?

    • @andykirby
      @andykirby  10 місяців тому +2

      Correct 👍🏼

  • @rivit90
    @rivit90 8 місяців тому

    hey andy foundation licences to get upgraded to 25 watts fill your boots :)

  • @cskeise
    @cskeise 10 місяців тому

    💙👊😎

  • @Tschubritza
    @Tschubritza 10 місяців тому

    What Radio is this and where did you get the CPS?

    • @andykirby
      @andykirby  10 місяців тому +2

      Motorola R7, I'm a dealer, let me know if you need anything: andy@cloudsto.com

  • @chargeriderepeat7024
    @chargeriderepeat7024 10 місяців тому

    I read somewhere its 10w equivalent for every 10m height...that might be rubbish 😂

    • @andykirby
      @andykirby  10 місяців тому

      It could be, height makes a huge difference!

    • @brutonstreettailor4570
      @brutonstreettailor4570 10 місяців тому +2

      Minus the loss in the coax ! But yes “ height is might ! “

  • @ipwnxdemonzz4223
    @ipwnxdemonzz4223 9 місяців тому

    People can scan and listen to u

    • @andykirby
      @andykirby  9 місяців тому

      Yeah its kinda the idea.

  • @nivid01
    @nivid01 10 місяців тому +1

    You should have verbally numbered each test so you and we know which test u were doing! Next test: “I am in the town now so let’s do a test”. Where the fuck is the town in reference to the receive radio! Also mate, you need to put your mouth much closer to the Motorola’s microphone and you will have a much stronger audio level on the receive radio.