You donated 5he clo5hs to women whom are fighting Breast Cancer Thank You being I just recently had surgery and had a long battle with Breast Cancer!!! 5hank You Both for helping thefight against it to!!!
I just love your videos…. I watching it all the way from South Africa 🇿🇦….sounds like you have a bad cold 🥶…hope you feel better by now…keep up the good work….I just love your laugh Stacy….
You guy's are awesome!!! Your taking your time to make sure that those items go to people that need them!! And you do so for all the right reasons, I'm so glad I found your channel... I'm up at 3:00 am because my pain won't let me sleep... Thanks for keeping me company, I was so happy to see all the dog food you found... What a waste that would have been.... Merry Christmas to your family...
It's comments like this that make us want to keep pushing produced these videos. You're watching, and commenting is what keeps us going. You are a part of it too! I'm sorry you are having trouble sleeping. I am glad you found some comfort and watching our videos. When I say it's comments like this that keep us going, I mean it! ❤❤❤❤❤
@@curbsidejunkies I really wish I could go diving. My body won't let me anymore. It's really sad how much good stuff gets thrown away. When there's people & their fur babies that would love & need this stuff.
Hi from New Zealand, I love what you do, I like the way you live. Please. Please don't listen to the haters, they are either jealous, or lazy to get off their asses to help make a difference. How many people have you helped feed, how much have you saved from the landfill. I am going to say tons🎉. People WILL start thinking and I thank you for that. Love that you get the free dog food 😊. Thanks
Next time you find something like the little chair and can’t get the marker stains off just try painting it! Yes you can paint fabric, just go online to see how to paint on fabric. It is cheap and beautiful.
❤ i love what you are doing. you are a sweet couple. and your children are sweet too. i am from the philippines but there is no dumpster diving here.❤ 7:05
Nail Polish Remover. ... White Vinegar and Liquid Dishwashing Detergent. ... Hairspray. ... Hand Sanitizer. ... Lemon Juice. ... Toothpaste. ... Baking Soda. Try these for removing sharpie
I wish up at being my my name is Patty I watch all people in the trashwhy people had food in the trash can people eat all the food in the trash can I hope you when I get sick eat food in
Always blows my mind how much food waste these stores casually throw away when there are hungry people everywhere! The Blessing Box is an incredible service to the community, your kids learn so much from you’re job, providing for others and your family.
Hi I'm carlitta I live in north Carolina and I all so have a utube channel but here we cant dumper dive but I love watching yall sometimes I stay up until 3 or 4am watching yall and thanks for sharing what yall do with us
I know this is an old video but I'm binge watching you guys lol. The different color see through paper and the roll thing that you didn't know what it was is the printer ink for the photos. We had them Walgreens when I worked there.
hi ann from the uk , thank you fot donating all those clothes somebody somewhere will be glad of them , you are both really nice and your children are lovely
When you find clothes that are clean and in bags please leave them in the bags it is so much easier for the workers to empty the bin that way, I know I have had to empty many of them
I think what you are doing is great, so many people can be helped with clothes, food and so many other things you do. Thank you so much and may God be with you and keep you safe.
If you ever find or have something that candle wax is on, lay paper towel on it and use a hair dryer or iron and when it melts the paper towel pulls it out. Works on carpet too.:)
Susan G. Koleman is wonderful charity for breast cancer. If you had ever had someone close to you or someone you knew that had gone through breast cancer you would know what a wonderful charity they are!!!!
Binge watching some of your older videos I haven't seen and always love your adventures! Great couple and family and so down to earth. Love your sense of humor and kind ways! Love to see how you have all stayed the same wonderful people throughout the years! Happy Holidays
Try baby wipes! It seems like something that’s for a baby would clean sharpie is wild but I use my grandson’s all the time and they clean a plethora of stains. Oxy clean is good as well.💕
Wow! Have 9 dogs would of loved to find that food!!! Dived at PetSmart yesterday and all the bags were ripped and manager and employee came out! Told them I was looking for boxes. Why do they cut the dry dog food bags always???
Susan B. Kommen center is a good thing to donate to. It's a woman's cancer center. Stacey you could go to Pinterest and type in how to get marker off of upholstery .Great video and great score. The yard is looking great. The are beautiful puppies. He can't help it he's a male. Good looking but not much upstairs. Lol. Yay buddy! Deep fried walleye.
I know some people weren't happy when we donated to Goodwill. I can definitely see why. We have a couple of different places that we will take things too. We just try to do our part and give it a second chance.
Hi you all are awesome people. I sure would enjoy doing what you do. I am a crafter so I see there is alot of things in these dumpsters that can be recycled. I wish I could find yarn an things like you do. But I live here in Lancaster ,Ohio so I don't think it legal to do that here.
Try using a mr. Clean eraser sponge that should help .you could also try alcohol or nail polish remover with acetone. you can google how to get permanent marker off of fabric take care. Also try using white distilled vinegar with Dawn dish soap and a sponge.
Now the boob pillows were funny LOL. Good haul. Doing some more binging on your previouws videos. I think the candle burner was an scentsy burner if it is that is worth some money. Some of those books should sell the Stephen King & Danielle Steel. Fairly easy to remove the marker as you can see Nicky sent you suggestions. And shampoo it & if the marker doesn't come off make a coverlet for it & if you know someone crafty with a saw you can make the other rocker thing. Big dogs big appetite LOL But you have to love the fur babies no matter what a great find for the whole family to use, share, or sale. And you did donate bags of clean clothes & items to scrap. And I really liked the designs on the plates
There's a product called goof off, heard it works. Hand sanitizer or rubbing alcohol also. Or try a cleaning foam that's used on furniture. Good luck, it's very cute.
Watching old videos, so not sure you will see this. The roll of colored Mylar is for wrapping gift packages. Some are made to shrink with a hair dryer heat on them.
hey this is what I googled how to take a marker off the chair you dip a clean sponge or cloth in rubbing alcohol wring it out and dab the stain from the outside in this works on many surfaces including fabric leather wood and granite rubbing alcohol dissolves the alcohol in the ink allowing you to wipe it away try it on the chair ok
You found a lot of stuff,what you don't want ,donate it . I know another couple who does dumpster diving nearby,they use, donate and have yard sales. They make good money!
Rit dye in a darker shade sponged on will help. You can also use bleach wipes and yes there will be a lighter area but that way if you match the color it is and just do those areas it should work. Lastly go to a dry cleaners ask what you can use or what they use to get out sharpie.
Howdy yall! new subscriber here from Dallas but live in Oklahoma I'm hooked on yalls show! I love watching all the good finds, scores and ofc seeing your beautiful dogs.I just was wondering about that dumpster with all the dust or whatever it is, is that the "haunted dumpster". Because I remember that one episode where we heard that voice yall captured. Well there was another video where I swear I heard a growl when Adam was handing Staci that nice vase im pretty sure it was the same dumpster though. Well I can't help but wonder if some how someone's ashes ended up in there.
If you have a lot of blanks wash the and give them to ASPA the cut up for dogs and cats so they are not always on the wire floor cages and some are comfort snuggles Special for rescues they will nest if they they have been dumped and are scared
Google it many cleaner depending on the fabrics I cleaned marker off a pillow and arm of chair Just the fabrics on label I found a mixture on one of your comets
Is this where you guys live? Its very pretty there and lots of room to run and play! Love watching your dives! Love that you guys donate thoughtfully what people might need and can use!! Keep up the good work!! Your little guy is awsome!!
Rubbing alcohol, nail polish remover non acetate, peroxide, hair spray, hand sanitizer, WD-40, White Vinegar, regular toothpaste, Baking Soda, pencil eraser and enzyme stain remover are all good things to use. If you dab n not rub it won't spread. :) Sometimes Magic Eraser will work too.
sad but...sometimes trash is just trash. We will be very surprised if the markers come out of the chair. Plus, you will need to put four feet on it, so they match, before it will sell. Good luck!
I love your videos , one thing you need is a picker stick . I made mine from a 4 inch paint roller handle that I put on a Dollar Tree cheap broom handle . It cost me about $6.00 , am very cheap minded.
Glad you are enjoying the videos Man! I need to put one together. I also want to incorporate a neodymium magnet for picking up ferrous materials that are hard to reach too.
That different colored cellophane type stuff is special toner for prescription s and driver licenses. Makes things impossible to reproduce well enough to duplicate. Very good stuff.
That was a good video killer scores especially on the dog food. I don't think you'll be able to get that off of the chair. The only thing that really gets off permanent marker is rubbing alcohol and I think it would just make it spread more. That stuff that you get at the dollar store that is yellow called LA awesome might work but like I said it will probably just spread because the color of the chair is light. I really enjoyed the video it was extra long and really fun to watch good job guys.m
That was kind of my thoughts on the chair too. But she wanted to give it a shot so we will see! If she can't get it off. I do have a friend whose wife is a master sewer LOL. I bet she could put together a cover for it. If not I guess back to the trash with it. Seems like such a shame though. Anyway thanks for watching the video man and thanks for the compliment, we appreciate it!
Please use rubbing alcohol it'll get it off or a tipod put it in the water let it dissolve and then use a brush to brush it on that fabric and it'll come out spotless
Try rubbing alcohol to get the ink off. It works on a lot of stuff. Great little chair, when people do that it makes me angry. Feet on it is no problem.
Walmart isn't taking back clothes that were bought the day before. Sure hope the world gets back to normal. A friend and went to BL and found the small chair, but it was in very good condition and I let him have it for his cats, the kitties love it.
A can of upholstery cleaner for fabric look in the sewing sections of their stores by the arts and craft supplies they should have it in Walmart, Michaels ,Jo-Ann Fabrics, AC Moore ,Hobby Lobby.
It’s a laptop lap table. The thing I don’t like about these videos is not that you don’t keep everything, it’s that I see things I would want and of course can’t have. Lol.
You donated 5he clo5hs to women whom are fighting Breast Cancer Thank You being I just recently had surgery and had a long battle with Breast Cancer!!! 5hank You Both for helping thefight against it to!!!
So Very Sweet. Love you guys 💓😇😘💓
I really do like your videos I watch them and I watch them and it gives me something to do
I just love your videos…. I watching it all the way from South Africa 🇿🇦….sounds like you have a bad cold 🥶…hope you feel better by now…keep up the good work….I just love your laugh Stacy….
You guy's are awesome!!! Your taking your time to make sure that those items go to people that need them!! And you do so for all the right reasons, I'm so glad I found your channel... I'm up at 3:00 am because my pain won't let me sleep... Thanks for keeping me company, I was so happy to see all the dog food you found... What a waste that would have been.... Merry Christmas to your family...
It's comments like this that make us want to keep pushing produced these videos. You're watching, and commenting is what keeps us going. You are a part of it too! I'm sorry you are having trouble sleeping. I am glad you found some comfort and watching our videos. When I say it's comments like this that keep us going, I mean it! ❤❤❤❤❤
Curbside Junkies 👍
@@curbsidejunkies I really wish I could go diving. My body won't let me anymore. It's really sad how much good stuff gets thrown away. When there's people & their fur babies that would love & need this stuff.
And the homeless. People that can use the new clothes. A d food😢
Hi from New Zealand, I love what you do, I like the way you live. Please. Please don't listen to the haters, they are either jealous, or lazy to get off their asses to help make a difference. How many people have you helped feed, how much have you saved from the landfill. I am going to say tons🎉. People WILL start thinking and I thank you for that. Love that you get the free dog food 😊. Thanks
Next time you find something like the little chair and can’t get the marker stains off just try painting it! Yes you can paint fabric, just go online to see how to paint on fabric. It is cheap and beautiful.
❤ i love what you are doing. you are a sweet couple. and your children are sweet too. i am from the philippines but there is no dumpster diving here.
Love your family and your videos! Your wife has the sweetest voice! Your son is adorable! Beautiful dogs! I’m binge watching your videos 😂🤣
I love your Stacey smile when she smiles you guys make me laugh a lot 😅😅😅
❤ i love what you are doing. you are a sweet couple. and your children are sweet too. i am from the philippines but there is no dumpster diving here.❤ 7:05
Nail Polish Remover. ...
White Vinegar and Liquid Dishwashing Detergent. ...
Hairspray. ...
Hand Sanitizer. ...
Lemon Juice. ...
Toothpaste. ...
Baking Soda.
Try these for removing sharpie
Rubbing alcohol will remove the permanent marker.
I wish up at being my my name is Patty I watch all people in the trashwhy people had food in the trash can people eat all the food in the trash can I hope you when I get sick eat food in
Always blows my mind how much food waste these stores casually throw away when there are hungry people everywhere! The Blessing Box is an incredible service to the community, your kids learn so much from you’re job, providing for others and your family.
You all are awesome love watching you
Thank you so much for watching our videos and the compliments! We appreciate it!
The.chair is nice. Try a chair cover.
Great score!! Love watching you all, you're an awesome family. Thanks for sharing your videos. God bless and have a good night~
Hi I'm carlitta I live in north Carolina and I all so have a utube channel but here we cant dumper dive but I love watching yall sometimes I stay up until 3 or 4am watching yall and thanks for sharing what yall do with us
I know this is an old video but I'm binge watching you guys lol. The different color see through paper and the roll thing that you didn't know what it was is the printer ink for the photos. We had them Walgreens when I worked there.
Been binging some of your old videos. Y'all are a great team! Love your videos!
hi ann from the uk , thank you fot donating all those clothes somebody somewhere will be glad of them , you are both really nice and your children are lovely
When you find clothes that are clean and in bags please leave them in the bags it is so much easier for the workers to empty the bin that way, I know I have had to empty many of them
that is a awesome idea so proud of you guys God bless you and your family
I think what you are doing is great, so many people can be helped with clothes, food and so many other things you do. Thank you so much and may God be with you and keep you safe.
love you both I get up at 11am in the morning to watch you both in my wheelchair god bless you all tina UK
I love your vids. Yall picking on each other and joking around makes it fun.. Thanks for sharing. Yall make my day. Kiss your dogs for me💋😂😂
If you ever find or have something that candle wax is on, lay paper towel on it and use a hair dryer or iron and when it melts the paper towel pulls it out. Works on carpet too.:)
Susan G. Koleman is wonderful charity for breast cancer. If you had ever had someone close to you or someone you knew that had gone through breast cancer you would know what a wonderful charity they are!!!!
Love you guys and seeing your awesome finds, seeing your lovely loving relationship, your kiddo's and dogs too. G'day from Australia x
Love Love Love watching your family drive God Bless y'all
Binge watching some of your older videos I haven't seen and always love your adventures! Great couple and family and so down to earth. Love your sense of humor and kind ways! Love to see how you have all stayed the same wonderful people throughout the years! Happy Holidays
You guys are the best too watch
Try baby wipes! It seems like something that’s for a baby would clean sharpie is wild but I use my grandson’s all the time and they clean a plethora of stains. Oxy clean is good as well.💕
Omgosh, that cow thing was a cup at a restaurant for kids. I use to have one. Brought back some memories
Try baking soda or any cleanser, ie Ajax or Comet n use hard brush or Scotch brite use for dishes etc.🥰👏🥰👏
Wow! Have 9 dogs would of loved to find that food!!! Dived at PetSmart yesterday and all the bags were ripped and manager and employee came out! Told them I was looking for boxes. Why do they cut the dry dog food bags always???
The yard looks so much better good job.
Hey there CS Junkies have a great night hope you find some good stuff ..Good luck and be safe ..Coming from Ontario Canada
You guys are kool I love watching y’all
Sweet finds .. nice to see you had gloves on too! i nagged your bro about gloves ! ty for sharing.
I wear them when I have them! But then, I run out and let me tell you, I hear about it! It's nice to know people care though!
Susan B. Kommen center is a good thing to donate to. It's a woman's cancer center. Stacey you could go to Pinterest and type in how to get marker off of upholstery .Great video and great score. The yard is looking great. The are beautiful puppies. He can't help it he's a male. Good looking but not much upstairs. Lol. Yay buddy! Deep fried walleye.
I know some people weren't happy when we donated to Goodwill. I can definitely see why. We have a couple of different places that we will take things too. We just try to do our part and give it a second chance.
The point is you're trying. Those that are complaining well that's what they do. Thanks for trying
Why people eat food in the trashcan why make people sick or wide world be sick too
God bless you all ways keep you strong amen be safe
Looks like he is having as much fun as the dogs
Adam's voice sounds like Dr. Phil. I knew you sounded familiar! Good blessings to you & your family.
I love watching you guys dumpster dive! Adam sounds like he needs a big dose of medicine and then go to bed! Get well soon.
Still trying to catch up on old videos lol.. liking them as I go along hahaha. Love ya's
Hi you all are awesome people. I sure would enjoy doing what you do. I am a crafter so I see there is alot of things in these dumpsters that can be recycled. I wish I could find yarn an things like you do. But I live here in Lancaster ,Ohio so I don't think it legal to do that here.
LOL ...Cain "that kinda hurt me--a lot" made me laugh so hard! Poor guy! You all got some good stuff guys. Still watching videos for the second time ❤
I love Cain's comments! he's super cute!
Great job with donations
Awesome! Great job saving the stuff.
To get off marker try dawn powerwash. Believe it or not that stuff gets out just about everything. Good luck and God Bless!!
Try using a mr. Clean eraser sponge that should help .you could also try alcohol or nail polish remover with acetone. you can google how to get permanent marker off of fabric take care. Also try using white distilled vinegar with Dawn dish soap and a sponge.
Now the boob pillows were funny LOL. Good haul. Doing some more binging on your previouws videos. I think the candle burner was an scentsy burner if it is that is worth some money. Some of those books should sell the Stephen King & Danielle Steel. Fairly easy to remove the marker as you can see Nicky sent you suggestions. And shampoo it & if the marker doesn't come off make a coverlet for it & if you know someone crafty with a saw you can make the other rocker thing. Big dogs big appetite LOL But you have to love the fur babies no matter what a great find for the whole family to use, share, or sale. And you did donate bags of clean clothes & items to scrap. And I really liked the designs on the plates
There's a product called goof off, heard it works. Hand sanitizer or rubbing alcohol also. Or try a cleaning foam that's used on furniture. Good luck, it's very cute.
When my grandkids colored on my chair with magic marker I bought a can of tulip fabric spray paint. Saved a $400 recliner.
Maureena Lucas great idea! Just dye it a darker color!
Love the chair, through a cover over and use it.
Hi from CANADA ---> Love yah guys!! Great Channel . Keep it up .Take Care & Be Safe?
Watching old videos, so not sure you will see this. The roll of colored Mylar is for wrapping gift packages. Some are made to shrink with a hair dryer heat on them.
Try fabric paint and make it any color you like....I really enjoy your videos.
Love you two ❤️
hey this is what I googled how to take a marker off the chair you dip a clean sponge or cloth in rubbing alcohol wring it out and dab the stain from the outside in this works on many surfaces including fabric leather wood and granite rubbing alcohol dissolves the alcohol in the ink allowing you to wipe it away try it on the chair ok
You found a lot of stuff,what you don't want ,donate it . I know another couple who does dumpster diving nearby,they use, donate and have yard sales. They make good money!
Rit dye in a darker shade sponged on will help. You can also use bleach wipes and yes there will be a lighter area but that way if you match the color it is and just do those areas it should work. Lastly go to a dry cleaners ask what you can use or what they use to get out sharpie.
All of that will ruin that chair when something as simple as isopropyl alcohol will lift that sharpie ink right out. 😏
Howdy yall! new subscriber here from Dallas but live in Oklahoma I'm hooked on yalls show! I love watching all the good finds, scores and ofc seeing your beautiful dogs.I just was wondering about that dumpster with all the dust or whatever it is, is that the "haunted dumpster". Because I remember that one episode where we heard that voice yall captured. Well there was another video where I swear I heard a growl when Adam was handing Staci that nice vase im pretty sure it was the same dumpster though. Well I can't help but wonder if some how someone's ashes ended up in there.
So happy when you find dog food!!!❤😅
If you have a lot of blanks wash the and give them to ASPA the cut up for dogs and cats so they are not always on the wire floor cages and some are comfort snuggles Special for rescues they will nest if they they have been dumped and are scared
Try simple green on that marker,trace the marker with qtip , good luck
Loved this video Caine that was funny stuff,o hope you didn't get hurt.
Google it many cleaner depending on the fabrics I cleaned marker off a pillow and arm of chair Just the fabrics on label I found a mixture on one of your comets
Love your videos.. Hello from French Gulch, California!!
Hello!
Is this where you guys live? Its very pretty there and lots of room to run and play! Love watching your dives! Love that you guys donate thoughtfully what people might need and can use!! Keep up the good work!! Your little guy is awsome!!
Rubbing alcohol, nail polish remover non acetate, peroxide, hair spray, hand sanitizer, WD-40, White Vinegar, regular toothpaste, Baking Soda, pencil eraser and enzyme stain remover are all good things to use. If you dab n not rub it won't spread. :) Sometimes Magic Eraser will work too.
Awesome dives. 👍👍
In some states you can buy stores liquidation and returns pallets for $100-$400 dollars you can even buy it like that from Amazon too
You know I've seen that. I really want to get into that. Think it would be a lot of fun. Soon as we figure things out, we may try to get one.
Gladly to join you 😊😍
sad but...sometimes trash is just trash. We will be very surprised if the markers come out of the chair. Plus, you will need to put four feet on it, so they match, before it will sell. Good luck!
I love your videos , one thing you need is a picker stick . I made mine from a 4 inch paint roller handle that I put on a Dollar Tree cheap broom handle . It cost me about $6.00 , am very cheap minded.
Glad you are enjoying the videos Man! I need to put one together. I also want to incorporate a neodymium magnet for picking up ferrous materials that are hard to reach too.
I didn't know Dollar Tree had broomsticks. That sounds like the best place to Source a broomstick from!
That different colored cellophane type stuff is special toner for prescription s and driver licenses. Makes things impossible to reproduce well enough to duplicate. Very good stuff.
Ya know you can make some pretty cool stuff with all those palates. Takes a bit of work but make it a fun day with your brothers!
You can use alcohol paper towels it says online to help remove sharpie from fabric
For future stains...home depot or Lowe's makes a cleaner called Purple Power! Check it out! Works great!
I think you guys are awessssssssome!!!!!!
Jealous that i cant dig as good as you guys in Australia!!!
Love to to all :) :) :) :)
That was a good video killer scores especially on the dog food. I don't think you'll be able to get that off of the chair. The only thing that really gets off permanent marker is rubbing alcohol and I think it would just make it spread more. That stuff that you get at the dollar store that is yellow called LA awesome might work but like I said it will probably just spread because the color of the chair is light. I really enjoyed the video it was extra long and really fun to watch good job guys.m
That was kind of my thoughts on the chair too. But she wanted to give it a shot so we will see! If she can't get it off. I do have a friend whose wife is a master sewer LOL. I bet she could put together a cover for it. If not I guess back to the trash with it. Seems like such a shame though. Anyway thanks for watching the video man and thanks for the compliment, we appreciate it!
Hi Guys..where do you get 1 of those sticks with the hook on it? Sure could use 1 for it's hard for me to get in the dumpsters..am a older gal!!!
I cant dumpster dive tonight, real cold here in Michigan. So decided to watch you all do in stead.. :)
I bet it is cold! I don't know how you guys do it. I'll be cursing Texas come summertime, but right now, it's okay.
I love your whole family. 2021. April.
Please use rubbing alcohol it'll get it off or a tipod put it in the water let it dissolve and then use a brush to brush it on that fabric and it'll come out spotless
Easy clean off marker
c'est bien que vous vous entendiez si bien tous les deux .on est de plus en plus à vous suivre .
Try rubbing alcohol to get the ink off. It works on a lot of stuff. Great little chair, when people do that it makes me angry. Feet on it is no problem.
Could always make a cover for the little chair. ☺️
Walmart isn't taking back clothes that were bought the day before. Sure hope the world gets back to normal. A friend and went to BL and found the small chair, but it was in very good condition and I let him have it for his cats, the kitties love it.
A can of upholstery cleaner for fabric look in the sewing sections of their stores by the arts and craft supplies they should have it in Walmart, Michaels ,Jo-Ann Fabrics, AC Moore ,Hobby Lobby.
To get magic marker out of fabric use non-acetone nail polish remover then you can try alcohol intake soap and water to clean it to
It’s a laptop lap table. The thing I don’t like about these videos is not that you don’t keep everything, it’s that I see things I would want and of course can’t have. Lol.
U could have sold that at a yard sale but it was sweet of u gave to the needed
What a hit on dog food. Awesome.
Yes! And we have a lot of dogs to feed!
Stanley steamer for the chair cleaning😊
You can paint or dye that wonderful chair
I'd be tempted to spray dye that chair or even spray paint!!
How many miles do you guys drive a night? I just trying to figure out how big my search should be. Thanks beginner diver!
Try white vinegar and baking powder mixed together in a spray bottle
you can get fabric paint or slip covers
Try some liquid Dawn dishwasher liquid. It might work. It takes food greese out of my loths. It won't hurt to try.