Loblaw, Sobeys accused of anticompetitive conduct | Canada's Competition Bureau

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  • Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
  • Canada's Competition Bureau has launched investigations into Loblaw and Sobeys parent companies. Sylvain Charlebois offers his take.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 176

  • @patberlinguette6808
    @patberlinguette6808 4 місяці тому +66

    Most grocery stores are scamming the consumers. They simply downsized the size of the container and charged the same....this is riduclous!

    • @Trackratz-zl9di
      @Trackratz-zl9di 4 місяці тому +7

      Welcome to Justin Economics .

    • @christopherblack4520
      @christopherblack4520 4 місяці тому +18

      It's called shrinkflation done by the manufacture. keep the size increase the price. One major cause of high prices in Canada no one talks about is the low Canadian dollar caused by government reckless spending.

    • @InstigatingInsulator
      @InstigatingInsulator 4 місяці тому +7

      I believe they squeeze their supplier’s too and to hear the price fixing is still going on enough CEO’s ridiculous salaries wile chincing the workers barely making a living

    • @Trackratz-zl9di
      @Trackratz-zl9di 4 місяці тому

      @@christopherblack4520 Yes we have all known about it for over a decade . It's only new to you and Joe Biden .

    • @Carolinapetroska
      @Carolinapetroska 4 місяці тому +7

      They just care about their managers and CEO.

  • @dogoftheg
    @dogoftheg 4 місяці тому +29

    Now do Telus, Rogers, and Bell!! 🎉

    • @ermagerd101
      @ermagerd101 4 місяці тому +1

      Then do the dairy industry.

    • @greg6500
      @greg6500 3 місяці тому +1

      Might remember they did say "The Rogers/Shaw merger harms the consumer" It still happened though.

  • @PhoenixMatrix8
    @PhoenixMatrix8 4 місяці тому +26

    How is it "unlawful" for the Competition Bureau to do what it was created to do...

  • @rpelletier2771
    @rpelletier2771 4 місяці тому +28

    This has been a thing for years!

  • @patientzero291
    @patientzero291 4 місяці тому +14

    Sylvain Charlebois just said that 9 year scandal for just bread imagine other staple Canadian food.

  • @walkmanutd19
    @walkmanutd19 4 місяці тому +30

    Competition in Canada is obviously joke after joke

    • @RichardHicks-sv9vk
      @RichardHicks-sv9vk 4 місяці тому

      Nothing against anyone already here but what is government doing about overwhelming immigration from countries like india. Immigration without diversity is a disaster

  • @B.D.F.
    @B.D.F. 4 місяці тому +15

    Might as well throw Metro Inc in there. A mall near me has a Metro, and Metro’s deal with the mall stipulates that they’re the only ones allowed to sell dairy or bread, to the point where even if any coffee shops attempt to open in the mall they aren’t allowed to add milk or cream to their coffee, aren’t allowed to offer bagels with cream cheese, etc. It’s absurd.

    • @stoneneils
      @stoneneils 4 місяці тому +3

      You're right..i totally forgot about that. That is 100% illegal in fact, just nobody knows..a few dollarama workers here and there..you..me..not many others.

  • @dongoggine
    @dongoggine 4 місяці тому +21

    No kidding and the government doesn't do anything to make it more competitive.

    • @Zebra_3
      @Zebra_3 4 місяці тому +1

      how many grocery stores would you like in a small town?

  • @MartenDykstra1
    @MartenDykstra1 4 місяці тому +59

    The Competition Bureau is a JOKE

    • @patientzero291
      @patientzero291 4 місяці тому +2

      They are just there collecting checks and are not doing their jobs or minimal at best.

    • @MrBuddy-r8w
      @MrBuddy-r8w 4 місяці тому

      The entire Canadian government is a joke.

    • @CtO-nj9uu
      @CtO-nj9uu 4 місяці тому +1

      They are excellent.

    • @RichardHicks-sv9vk
      @RichardHicks-sv9vk 4 місяці тому

      Nothing against anyone already here but what is government doing about overwhelming immigration from countries like india. Immigration without diversity is a disaster

    • @rps1689
      @rps1689 4 місяці тому

      It is a joke. the five big grocers will not tolerate the government going back to the days of having structures that reduced the formation of monopolistic outfits and the tools to divest them if they arose. Lobbyists for these outfits have way too much influence on the tax regime.

  • @Michael-pg7rv
    @Michael-pg7rv 4 місяці тому +5

    Remember when Loblaws and Sobeys fixed the price of bread for like a decade and no one was criminally punished?

    • @rps1689
      @rps1689 3 місяці тому

      Same old same old. And they still have a great sense of entitlement from being spoiled over the years by a system that allows a big corporation to manufacture loses and failures that get socialized at the tax payers expense.

  • @harrisonthorburn7415
    @harrisonthorburn7415 4 місяці тому +8

    This is typical of business in Canada. Rather than allowing for real competition to bring prices down, grocer's attitudes seem to be "You consumers ought to be grateful you have a store at all, and you should know not to complain!" The Telecoms are the same way.

    • @ermagerd101
      @ermagerd101 4 місяці тому

      And dairy cartel.

    • @rps1689
      @rps1689 4 місяці тому

      The big five grocers have a great sense of entitlement that comes from being spoiled over the years by a corrupt tax system that allows them to manufacture loses and failures that get socialized at the tax payers expense, as taxpayers have to mitigate the cost of this socialization. No wonder we have an economy where the small guy and small businesses have to mitigate the lack of real capitalistic competition. Such is the realty when we see Canada having a distorted and pernicious form of competition because it has primarily an economy of monopolistic power that exploits a population, rather than serving it.

  • @Highaltitude45
    @Highaltitude45 4 місяці тому +10

    Really? They're just doing this now. So Canadians have been suffering for quite some time now from sky high food prices and the bureau has just figured this out now.....unbelievable

    • @stoneneils
      @stoneneils 4 місяці тому

      Government works slow but with remote workers it will now be getting even slower. On the other hand they are working while many gen-z find it too challenging to go full-time altogether.

  • @debbienichols9776
    @debbienichols9776 4 місяці тому +16

    Is anyone surprised?

  • @VarunSharma-km3wv
    @VarunSharma-km3wv 4 місяці тому +7

    We have a competition bureau? Maybe its in concept only, like free markets

    • @jumbome7420
      @jumbome7420 4 місяці тому

      Don’t understand free markets eh

  • @wallybartfay56
    @wallybartfay56 4 місяці тому +5

    Recall the price fixing for bread? History repeats itself

    • @rps1689
      @rps1689 4 місяці тому

      Brings to mind compounded markup, where a parent company, more so a monopolistic outfit, inflates and manufactures overhead by means of using too many of its subsidiaries unnecessarily in order to inflate the price several times; a form of hidden price gouging. The most effected products of this is bottled water, baking products, and brand name drugs. Compound markup in not only confined to subsidiaries; we see it also in transport that affects prices on the shelves. Just one of the ways to collectively disguise price gouging as “inflation”. This gimmick does create some jobs, but mostly low paying ones; and also indirectly over time devalues the earnings of the consumer.

  • @Sam-o3m3h
    @Sam-o3m3h 4 місяці тому +8

    Competition among corporations is pretty much dead in Canada. That is why we pay so much for everything. There is no competition to drive down prices. And no party is going to do a thing about it. pierre will avoid saying anything on it and trudeau will talk about it and do nothing. No point saying anything on NDP as we have never had the NDP win at the federal level. We just go from conservative to liberal and back repeat.

    • @BobBob-b5d
      @BobBob-b5d 4 місяці тому +2

      Pierre and the villainous Cons actually voted against bringing competition in to the Canadian market to lower grocery pricings. Trudeau called him out in the HoC at least 3x and he never denied it.

    • @Sam-o3m3h
      @Sam-o3m3h 4 місяці тому

      They also sold off Petro Canada under mulroney to a foreign buyer. And then allowed them to take the money we got to use for exploration. It was the liberals who created the corporation and we the tax payer paid for it. Only for the conservatives to privatize our natural resources to foreigners.

    • @JackieBillyTom
      @JackieBillyTom 4 місяці тому +1

      politicians all have their hooks in this cookie jar too. Literally fascism

    • @rps1689
      @rps1689 4 місяці тому

      Unfortunately George Weston Ltd. to a great extent has a stranglehold on the country like some other monopolistic outfits do. Canada has a distorted and pernicious form of competition. This is because it has primarily an economy of monopolistic power that limits real capitalistic competition. Monopolistic competition, is what we are primarily seeing in Canada, which is when any product is being offered by a handful of sellers effecting a small competition between them hence very little control from the buyer front.

  • @mapleleaf8948
    @mapleleaf8948 4 місяці тому +7

    All the smaller independents get bought out or driven out of business with the major players undercutting prices until they close, then up go the prices.

    • @ermagerd101
      @ermagerd101 4 місяці тому

      Exactly what happened to me in Alberta.

  • @JackieBillyTom
    @JackieBillyTom 4 місяці тому +8

    another day, another fleecing

  • @nuxkamina
    @nuxkamina 4 місяці тому +3

    Now that we stopped shopping there...hmmm, we should look into these monopolies. Ticketmaster, go figure....20 years of monopolies = almost 0 advancement. It's the 90s with more cell phones.

  • @KevinSills
    @KevinSills 4 місяці тому +3

    That's hilarious when Loblaws calls an inquiry "unlawful".............you know they broke the law then!

  • @JoeE.
    @JoeE. 4 місяці тому +6

    This is the problem when only two companies are monopolizing the market. This doesn't happen in grocery food industry only. In telecommunications too, lack of competition is rampant particularly in Canada.

    • @francoisb5907
      @francoisb5907 4 місяці тому +1

      Don't forget Metro... I am sure they are part of it!

  • @dbmuir8683
    @dbmuir8683 4 місяці тому +12

    maybe the federal-Conservative party & Ontario PCs could ask their senior-advisor Jenni Byrne for some helpful insight, seeing as how she's a Loblaws-lobbyist

    • @Trackratz-zl9di
      @Trackratz-zl9di 4 місяці тому +8

      Maybe they could hire Jagmeets brother who works for Metro .

    • @christopherblack4520
      @christopherblack4520 4 місяці тому +1

      This is a Liberal mess caused by free money, over spending, a low Canadian dollar, out of control immigration which causes out of control inflation. Another note plastic keeps food fresh longer Liberals want to get rid of all single use plastic which will lead to waste and higher prices. Keep voting Liberal/NDP all the way to the poor house.

    • @BobBob-b5d
      @BobBob-b5d 4 місяці тому +8

      Cons love that sort of unscrupulous business practice.
      Pierre pOilievre voted against bringing more competition into the Canadian market to lower prices and not a single villainous Con chides him for this, but cry about the carbon tax of which they get rebates back.

    • @Trackratz-zl9di
      @Trackratz-zl9di 4 місяці тому +2

      @@BobBob-b5d Why would the conservatives or any political party love that ?

    • @Sam-o3m3h
      @Sam-o3m3h 4 місяці тому +2

      It was conservatives that sold off Petro-Canada. Petro-Canada was a corporation started by the Liberals. Ya, why do the conservatives sell off our industries to foreign buyers.

  • @l.m.2404
    @l.m.2404 3 місяці тому +2

    Here's why I have stopped shopping at Loblaw, Shopper's, SuperStore, and No Frills, unfair pricing amongst their own stores.
    Prices for the identical products between locations can vary between $1 up to $5 more .
    How can that be?
    Fraud is how I see it. Price gouging and corporate greed another.

  • @noseboop4354
    @noseboop4354 4 місяці тому +3

    Tomorrow they will discover water is wet.

  • @jakeace2830
    @jakeace2830 4 місяці тому +9

    Make a law big corp cant buy out or absorb smaller companies

    • @colinjohnston5734
      @colinjohnston5734 4 місяці тому +3

      Your just gonna end up with a buncha small grocery owners who retire broke when they can’t sell off their business when they hit retirement. The thing is we are so anti entrepreneurial no one is getting in to the small grocery game. It’s basically old Italians and Portuguese, and some new Canadians such as Indians.

    • @jakeace2830
      @jakeace2830 4 місяці тому

      @@colinjohnston5734 So leave it the way it is that really seems to be working

    • @planesandbikes7353
      @planesandbikes7353 4 місяці тому

      well that would be wonderful .. with much much higher prices. All the little guy grocers in my region have their prices far higher than either Loblaws subsidiaries, Walmart or even Sobeys subsidiaries. Go to small villages and youre at the mercy of TruValue Foods or some local general store owner who charges 30-50% more than what Loblaws or Walmart charges - without exception. Same with the hobby farm stands around me: produce for double the price of the big grocers.

    • @shauncameron8390
      @shauncameron8390 4 місяці тому

      @@planesandbikes7353
      Economies of scale. And little guy grocers can't buy in bulk as they don't have the revenue or space to support it.

  • @judylaaper4849
    @judylaaper4849 4 місяці тому +3

    GREED

  • @jumbome7420
    @jumbome7420 4 місяці тому +6

    lol you don’t say.

    • @Zebra_3
      @Zebra_3 4 місяці тому

      how about that?

  • @PawsomePranksParade
    @PawsomePranksParade 4 місяці тому +2

    It’s because competition bureaucrats have invested in loblaws competitors.

  • @shelleyfortier3094
    @shelleyfortier3094 4 місяці тому +3

    Get rid of Lawblaws and independent! And metro! They have been screwing customers for years.

  • @jacobuszwanenburg1629
    @jacobuszwanenburg1629 4 місяці тому +2

    Competition ?
    In Canada there is little of that with protectionism

  • @Francois_Dupont
    @Francois_Dupont 4 місяці тому +5

    this guy 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

    • @rkp3909
      @rkp3909 4 місяці тому +3

      He is doing PR work for Loblaw 😅

  • @sharmaineonthestreet
    @sharmaineonthestreet 4 місяці тому +2

    The grocery monopoly in Canada is ridiculous, and Canadians are taking a stand

    • @rps1689
      @rps1689 4 місяці тому

      Unfortunately too many think monopolistic outfits are "normal" and a fact or way of life. That price gouging is somehow "capitalism" and necessary.

  • @susanb4816
    @susanb4816 4 місяці тому +9

    Make the essentials for life not-for-profit

    • @InstigatingInsulator
      @InstigatingInsulator 4 місяці тому

      Ha not for profit is just a way for tax breaks! Just look at any CEO’s salary! Volunteer still gets paid just doesn’t have to claim the income

    • @shauncameron8390
      @shauncameron8390 4 місяці тому

      And then run into chronic shortages.

  • @SharingAccount-lw9gw
    @SharingAccount-lw9gw 4 місяці тому +1

    Nothing will happen. Remember the phone companies and mergers. They merged to reduce rated 😂 according to the competition bureau

  • @lynb1022
    @lynb1022 4 місяці тому +1

    Go after all the real estate price-fixers and maybe I'll believe the Competition Bureau is even remotely fit for purpose.

  • @Bryan-dn1nx
    @Bryan-dn1nx 4 місяці тому +1

    lob laws has deep pockets for lawyers and have ruined many small companies with this practice

  • @johnukos
    @johnukos 4 місяці тому +6

    the self-proclaimed “Food Professor” who received a $60,000 research grant from the Weston Foundation in 2018, is, with rare exception, one of Loblaw's most fervent defenders in Canadian public discourse

  • @enriquemoran9094
    @enriquemoran9094 4 місяці тому +1

    Competition Bureau o Monopoly Facilitator. Any way you say it is the same.

  • @WheredidCanadago.
    @WheredidCanadago. 4 місяці тому +1

    And their just figuring this out now...Corruption at its finest !!!!

  • @kyleleblanc3488
    @kyleleblanc3488 4 місяці тому +1

    Sobeys sucks. Everything costs more there.

  • @TheKoopatroopa31
    @TheKoopatroopa31 4 місяці тому +2

    "lmao starve you peasants." -Galen Weston

  • @danboden9873
    @danboden9873 4 місяці тому +1

    Same rules apply to Jim pattison ?

  • @RC-the-OG
    @RC-the-OG 4 місяці тому +2

    how much you want to bet nothing is going to happen? We all know they are price gouging for max profit., We are not stupid. Eat the rich

  • @blakesmith9844
    @blakesmith9844 4 місяці тому +1

    I just love how they keep classifying these little companies “the big three” these a low volume grocers.

  • @Stonesour1
    @Stonesour1 4 місяці тому +1

    Loblaw Blah Blah

  • @Fuhnance
    @Fuhnance 4 місяці тому +1

    No way the Competition Bureau is actually doing something.

  • @jody-ne7xs
    @jody-ne7xs 4 місяці тому +1

    Big city grocerie stores should have a higher tax rate same for professionals like doctors and dentists to lower food costs. We need a new government department to study the matter. Put a cap on chain saleries.

    • @shauncameron8390
      @shauncameron8390 4 місяці тому

      LOL.

    • @ridinreiners
      @ridinreiners 3 місяці тому

      What do doctors and dentists have to do with the price of food.? I am a nurse and do not begrudge the wages physicians make. You should follow a general surgeon or cardiologist or emergency room physician around for a few days.

  • @aleayawijaya2519
    @aleayawijaya2519 4 місяці тому

    We shop at the big stores because it is TOO EXPENSIVE to buy at smaller chains. This is how it started. The big box stores swallowed up the small guys.

  • @ronstephen72
    @ronstephen72 4 місяці тому

    FYI: This might surprise you but... gasoline prices do NOT randomly change all by the same amounts, all in the same hour, in gas stations of every company, all over each zone, on a regular basis. ;)

  • @BrokenSoul79x
    @BrokenSoul79x 4 місяці тому

    It's about bloody time.. more like 10-20 years too fkn late.

  • @blainclatworthy5423
    @blainclatworthy5423 4 місяці тому

    trudeau's Carbon tax is responsible for the price of Groceries!

  • @Joesmith-dt9sy
    @Joesmith-dt9sy 4 місяці тому

    Maybe Jughead could get his brother to tell metro foods to cut prices.

  • @davidblight3567
    @davidblight3567 2 місяці тому

    Now go after gas companies. Utilities

  • @derek89273
    @derek89273 4 місяці тому +1

    I shop around and don’t see much of a difference anywhere.

  • @chrislim7976
    @chrislim7976 4 місяці тому

    Stay classy, Weston family...😂

  • @brenly7054
    @brenly7054 4 місяці тому

    You will eat nothing and be happy

  • @Ryan-yi5ro
    @Ryan-yi5ro 4 місяці тому +1

    In other news...water is wet. 🤦🏻

  • @SirThomas1212
    @SirThomas1212 4 місяці тому +1

    The Incompetence Bureau

  • @thomasgordon6048
    @thomasgordon6048 4 місяці тому

    Attention: Grocery stores can increase profits by raising sale prices! We're fortunate that they didn't figure this out 50 yrs ago, we'd be out even more money. They waited until the carbon tax was introduced.

  • @acuteawareness
    @acuteawareness 4 місяці тому

    Excellent

  • @jumbome7420
    @jumbome7420 4 місяці тому

    lol funny he’s talking about it only after the boycott. I guess Singhs brother must be losing money

  • @alelectric2767
    @alelectric2767 4 місяці тому

    Well when Trudeau let them amalgamate then what do you expect.

    • @zachweyrauch2988
      @zachweyrauch2988 4 місяці тому +1

      We expect weak and childish populists to make things up like you just did. I'm glad you're uncomfortable reality is the thing doing it to you.

    • @rps1689
      @rps1689 4 місяці тому

      The change of economic structures that created and grew monopolistic outfits, and made price gouging legal were created long before Trudeau.

  • @forgetmilk2818
    @forgetmilk2818 4 місяці тому

    If they even see any fines it'll be pennies for them. Wont change anything.

  • @ronbelanger4113
    @ronbelanger4113 4 місяці тому

    Quarterly profit statements will tell the truth.

  • @Anitas-peaceful-universe
    @Anitas-peaceful-universe 4 місяці тому

    You all take the big chains. What about the smaller grocery stores?

    • @stoneneils
      @stoneneils 4 місяці тому

      They are cheap as hell in comparison. What world are you iiving in.

  • @1952EL
    @1952EL 4 місяці тому

    😡

  • @devinmcmanus
    @devinmcmanus 4 місяці тому

    It's about time.

  • @SpaTelliteAM
    @SpaTelliteAM 4 місяці тому +1

    In Nova Scotia, Cineplex rules everything but a small Annapolis valley movie theatre, you need an email just to talk to them - they may ignore you. Will someone reestablish the NS made Empire Theatres?

  • @Anonymous_Whisper
    @Anonymous_Whisper 4 місяці тому

    Anyone else afraid the government will starve them

    • @ermagerd101
      @ermagerd101 4 місяці тому

      No. I'm outta here.

    • @Anonymous_Whisper
      @Anonymous_Whisper 4 місяці тому +1

      @@ermagerd101 leave Canada while you still can

    • @ermagerd101
      @ermagerd101 4 місяці тому +1

      @@Anonymous_Whisper Sure am! 👍

    • @Anonymous_Whisper
      @Anonymous_Whisper 4 місяці тому +1

      @@ermagerd101 glad I'm not alone 🥲😁✊

    • @Anonymous_Whisper
      @Anonymous_Whisper 4 місяці тому

      @@ermagerd101 I'll eat either way. But I feel bad for others who can't afford food currently. Watching almost everyone I know drop weight. Not by choice. We are on the Venezuela diet.... They eat from garbages now down there

  • @whitepanther7041
    @whitepanther7041 4 місяці тому +3

    I love these large grocery stores...they provide a much needed service...Canadian citizens sure do complain a lot.

    • @danhule
      @danhule 4 місяці тому +3

      how much do you like being abused by corporate overlords? like... from a scale from 1-10?

  • @criticalmass613
    @criticalmass613 4 місяці тому +1

    Would like to see Sylvain Charlebois as an MP someday

  • @UnderratedDemocracy
    @UnderratedDemocracy 4 місяці тому

    Metro has some of the highest cost for groceries and not a word about them, they just attack our cheapest grocery stores.

    • @jumbome7420
      @jumbome7420 4 місяці тому +1

      lol you think la blaws is a cheap store lol

    • @UnderratedDemocracy
      @UnderratedDemocracy 4 місяці тому

      @@jumbome7420 nofrills is a cheap store

    • @stoneneils
      @stoneneils 4 місяці тому

      @@jumbome7420 They have many brand stores..Maxis is very cheap..Provigo is very expensive. Both Loblaws lol..make sense of that.

  • @marcusmossuto
    @marcusmossuto 4 місяці тому +2

    Food inflation is caused by central banks and government...not retailers in the private economy.

    • @BobBob-b5d
      @BobBob-b5d 4 місяці тому +4

      Mr Stewpeed Apologist, the private economy has an effect on inflation as well. Listen to the story for some details.

    • @stoneneils
      @stoneneils 4 місяці тому +1

      How stupid does one have to be to say that!??! That is so funny marcus...please..to got college..don't listen to peterson.

  • @markbrady711
    @markbrady711 4 місяці тому

    What a pantload. Govt deflecting.

  • @Lickymaballs
    @Lickymaballs 4 місяці тому +1

    I wonder if his nack name is "Silly" because everytime he is on here his explanations certainly seem to be!