KDE Plasma is WASTING its POWER. Let's fix that!

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    00:00 Intro
    01:04 Sponsor: Extend the life of your PHP applications
    01:53 The Power of KDE
    02:43 Activities: split your use cases clearly
    04:01 Kwin Scripts: manage your window manager
    04:58 KDE Connect: the unsung hero of Phone integration
    05:53 Other "hidden" things you can do
    07:24 The Welcome App: good idea, but bad direction
    11:00 For more advanced features? Banner and callbacks
    12:57 KDE's power is wasted because no one knows it's there
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    Let's start with Activities, something KDE never really talks about or promotes in any way.
    An Activity is a group of virtual desktops. You can switch activities easily with a keyboard shortcut, and they have their own switcher tool. Each activity can have its own name, wallpaper, set of plasma widgets, and virtual desktops.
    WHich means you can create a work activity, with a certain set of widgets that let you work more easily, and a less distracting wallpaper, and a personal activity, where you can have all the anime characters you want as a background, different widgets, and even different apps running.
    Now let's talk Kwin, the window manager / compositor. You can extend it, thanks to custom Kwin scripts. It can force background blur on certain windows, have sticky window snapping, so you can resize 2 adjacent windows in one go, there's Krohnkite, a script that turns Kwin into a full blown tiling window manager, you can maximize new windows to a new virtual desktop, like on mac OS, or shake a window to minimize all others.
    By default, KDE Plasma also has KDE Connect, a wonderful tool that lets you basically replicate what apple does with their iOS and macOS devices: install the companion app on your Android phone, or iPhone, and pair the 2.
    And that's just a few things most KDE users probably never even knew existed. There are tons more, like Krunner. Press Alt + space, and you get a full on search box. You can have an application launcher as a right click on the desktop, instead of a context menu. You can apply a whole theme in just one click from the appearance tab. You can replace any plasma widget by another through the "show alternatives" menu item. You can replicate any desktop from any other operating system.
    Thing is, no one ever told KDE users they could do that, and that's the main problem with KDE.
    Fortunately, KDE devs seem to have understood that problem, because they're already working on a Welcome application: invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-...
    But that doesn't solve our power problem: it only addresses the basics everyone already knows they'll be able to do in any OS. It doesn't tell people about what they can do specifically on KDE.
    The welcome app should offer predefined layouts to let people know that this is a capability they have. Or, even better, have a "+" button to let someone create their own layout.
    The Welcome app should probably also be the entry point for themes. KDE has a few out of the box, just as a dark or light mode, or midnight mode, but you could also use that opportunity to tell people about the "Get new stuff" buttons that permeate all the customization throughout the desktop.
    DIsplay these default all in one themes, and a very visible "get more themes" button right from the start.
    The Welcome app is also the perfect entry point to talk about KDE Connect.
    For activities, there's a simple path as well. When a user enters the settings for Activities, or maybe uses virtual desktops for a while, you can just prompt them with a small notification, easily dismissed, or just a simple banner in the settings that might be related to virtual desktops.
    Same goes for all Kwin scripts and all extensions: instead of hiding the kwin scripts in their own settings page, you could also make them more visible in the default window options.
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  • @TheLinuxEXP
    @TheLinuxEXP  Рік тому +29

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    • @Logilype
      @Logilype Рік тому +3

      Hold on, you use Proxmox? Why don't you make a tour of what server you use and what you run on your server

    • @csehszlovakze
      @csehszlovakze Рік тому +1

      since you're already a pro video maker, you should make a full feature tour and contribute it to the project!

    • @nyxalexandra-io
      @nyxalexandra-io Рік тому +5

      no

    • @scsc9311
      @scsc9311 Рік тому +1

      How about an instructional video on every aspect of KDE? It could be a multi part series, like a video wiki.
      That would really help people that are visual learners.

    • @TheExileFox
      @TheExileFox Рік тому

      KDE lacks an easy way to access QT theming, leaving you stuck with a light QT theme while the rest is dark...

  • @QuestForTori
    @QuestForTori Рік тому +463

    Thank you for being one of the few Linux UA-camrs talking about the issue of UX shortcomings on Linux. As a fellow UX Designer, it's always frustrating to see others hand-wave these real problems away when they're likely the types who already just think programmer art and haphazardly-populated menus are good enough for everyone.

    • @JureRepinc
      @JureRepinc Рік тому +34

      Agree with this all. But unfortunately what I fell and see is that most UX/HCI people just talk/write a lot but very few actually progress from that and actually help people like KDE with actions that improve the software that programers craft. Hopefully we see more joining and helping in future.

    • @csehszlovakze
      @csehszlovakze Рік тому +19

      that's funny. the reason why I switched away from M$office to LibreOffice back in 2007 was that stupid ribbon interface, and I hate hamburger menus just the same. I'm glad there're still apps out there with the traditional paradigm (menu+toolbar)

    • @TheJackiMonster
      @TheJackiMonster Рік тому +9

      @@JureRepinc Honestly the most contributors in FOSS are not UX designer. Most people are just into programming and since many projects are either developed by one person ahead or a bunch of people without any proper management, you just end up with a bad UX in most cases. That's just the flaw of decentralized development you have to take for its other advantages...
      The best bet is that you have one contributor/maintainer either developing most parts alone or merging every contribution properly together, so that you end up with a consistent UX. Then it's still a matter of question whether this one person actually knows how to design UX.
      It's kind of a miracle that FOSS has become so damn good in all this time. But it needed a lot of iterations in most cases. For example look at how often they completely reworked the UX for Blender. They recently refreshed Inkscape and Gimp a few years ago as well. Then these applications are even designed to be used by visual users. So it's more likely they have contributors interested in this topic, potentially caring about UX design.
      All of this struggle is a good reason for me to like GNOME a lot. Because their team of contributors contains multiple UX designer which give a direction how applications should work for most other contributors. So you end up with at something which is consistent. Sure, not everyone likes this design but that's not the point when it comes to usability.
      When it comes to KDE, I'm not sure whether there is actually a consistent design in the background or any plan. I know they patch/fix a lot recently but as a developer, I have still no idea where they are heading. I really hope they can get this more clear with Plasma 6 and it's not just an upgrade from Qt 5 to Qt 6. Because Qt itself doesn't provide any proper design guidelines.
      ...and that's the issue I see for UX designers "not joining and helping with KDE". How should they help if there's no preferred direction? Users can customize everything. So the typical KDE user will replace any adjusted UX anyway? There are a lot of reasons to keep you away from KDE as front-end developer in my opinion. ^^'

    • @guss77
      @guss77 Рік тому +1

      @@csehszlovakze then beware - the kHamburgerMenu is taking over KDE... At least if you're already using something with a menu it will stay like that, but for new users/new apps - it'll be hamburger by default.

    • @csehszlovakze
      @csehszlovakze Рік тому +7

      @@guss77 yes, I made my concerns about that known, and they don't plan on phasing out traditional UI any time soon. if they do, Trinity Desktop still exists 😂😂😂

  • @elcondor7627
    @elcondor7627 Рік тому +115

    User instruction is the most undervalued branch of software development. In one of the companies I worked for, we had one person on a team of 6 devs that did ONLY manual writing and customer instruction content creation. He had a full days work every day of the week. Tweaking, fine-tuning, getting everything exactly right and making sure it remained understandable.
    Really admired the guy for it.

    • @aryanmn1569
      @aryanmn1569 Рік тому

      In open-source software
      Because people who use it, are usually from a more technical stand point, because they do it for free, they do it for sb like them, and I think either companies or govs need to fund these more seriously, or dont nag about obfuscated cool stuff opensource community makes

    • @MrClassicmetal
      @MrClassicmetal Рік тому +6

      Those people are worth their weight in gold.

    • @colbyboucher6391
      @colbyboucher6391 Рік тому +1

      If only we could convince our bosses that documentation matters.

    • @friendlyfire7861
      @friendlyfire7861 Рік тому

      @@aryanmn1569 Why would "govs need to fund these more seriously"?

  • @AndyGait
    @AndyGait Рік тому +104

    The feature I love in KDE connect is that the audio pauses on my PC when my phone rings, and then starts again when the call is finished. So simple, but I love it.

    • @a1nosweat
      @a1nosweat Рік тому +1

      It doesn't for me - but that would be dreadful.

    • @anmol3457
      @anmol3457 Рік тому +2

      yep it's pretty good

    • @AndyGait
      @AndyGait Рік тому +1

      @@a1nosweat Each to their own. But why would you want audio playing if you're on a call?

    • @a1nosweat
      @a1nosweat Рік тому +5

      @@AndyGait I DJ

    • @AndyGait
      @AndyGait Рік тому +1

      @@a1nosweat Then turn it off 😂

  • @prettysheddy
    @prettysheddy Рік тому +314

    Can't wait to see what the KDE team has for plasma 6.

    • @ioneocla6577
      @ioneocla6577 Рік тому +58

      The biggest feature will probably be qt6 which could bring various performance improvement

    • @TheLinuxEXP
      @TheLinuxEXP  Рік тому +46

      Me too!!

    • @DistrosProjects
      @DistrosProjects Рік тому +48

      Probably a buggy mess for the first year, then an absolutely amazing experience beyond that. Don’t get me wrong I love KDE but it takes a while for it to stabilize

    • @act.13.41
      @act.13.41 Рік тому +19

      I expect 6.0 to be basically a switch over to the QT6 Tool Kit. This will bring big changes under the hood, but the parts we see will come with 6.1.
      If some things are ready for 6.0, they will get put in, so there may be a few.

    • @therealb888
      @therealb888 Рік тому +1

      @@act.13.41 but when can we expect this? Any official roadmap?

  • @godtable
    @godtable Рік тому +62

    I now know why activities exist in KDE thanks, maybe they should rename it to “rooms” as it is a level upwards from desktops. This way they can advertise it easier, you can have a gaming room, an Office/workroom, a dressing room and so on. It still feels like inspection, perhaps desktops you can save and restore are enough?

    • @samuelitooooo
      @samuelitooooo Рік тому +1

      I love this tbh

    • @U1TR4F0RCE
      @U1TR4F0RCE Рік тому +5

      I litterally was planning to try and learn how to make a Gnome Extension because I like Material Shell but really wanted a iOS style thing for focus modes and it was only just now that I found out KDE has that.

  • @HeathenHacks
    @HeathenHacks Рік тому +90

    6:00 in addition, KRunner can also do Unit conversions and calculator stuff.
    I think the devs have expected users to check on the KDE Userbase if ever they want to know more about things.

    • @TheLinuxEXP
      @TheLinuxEXP  Рік тому +11

      Yeah, maybe! They should present all of that more visibly, though

    • @ChonkyWantsACat
      @ChonkyWantsACat Рік тому +6

      Oh it can do so much other stuff. It has extensions too. It can do fancy stuff like fetch your passwords from your password manager of choice or play music on your favourite app through custom extensions

    • @HeathenHacks
      @HeathenHacks Рік тому +3

      @@ChonkyWantsACat I just cited a single example, but it can do a lot more, yes.

    • @d-air1
      @d-air1 Рік тому

      You don't need to check the user base. There is a question mark button next to the keep open button that explains what everything does. Of course it can't fit entire paragraphs in there.

    • @harshsrivastava9570
      @harshsrivastava9570 Рік тому +2

      frankly, as a daily user of krunner, i do think that it's a big problem; krunner is feature rich but i still don't know how to use most of the more advanced features

  • @vasya.sovari
    @vasya.sovari Рік тому +8

    This is the one advantage of distro-hopping: you notice features you really like but didn't know existed. And once you know those things exist, making them happen on your distro of choice is blissful.
    Terrific video

  • @mgrth
    @mgrth Рік тому +45

    Great video. KDE plasma is by far the best desktop I've ever used, because I spent some time to customize for fun, and now it just feels ... like home. Because it's customized exactly to my personality. The video tutorials are a great idea, but it's not fair to ask the coders to make those, the community should help out (like you are here). It can be overwhelming to spend a lot of time/effort to get a feature working, and then to also have to make a slick video explaining it. The community should lean in and help with that part. Like you did here, very helpful!

  • @rafaelpalmalima
    @rafaelpalmalima Рік тому +36

    I like Plasma Activities, but a major missing feature is the ability to have different panel configurations for each activity. Hope this gets fixed some day.

    • @TheLinuxEXP
      @TheLinuxEXP  Рік тому +16

      Yeah, I think they want to revamp them in Plasma 6

    • @ens5n1e07p
      @ens5n1e07p Рік тому +5

      @@TheLinuxEXP Revamp ≠ remove. Check the 35th issue on the Plasma Workspace repository in KDE's GitLab instance.

  • @gigalodon14
    @gigalodon14 Рік тому +25

    I think a general video about Tiling would help a lot of people. There are many Gnome users who would kill for tiling but don't know about Tiling Assistant. Also KWin's tiling capabilities are awesome

  • @cameronbosch1213
    @cameronbosch1213 Рік тому +28

    What would really help is a KDE Plasma layout chooser like ZorinOS or Ubuntu MATE has. I think it would really show off what KDE Plasma is capable of.

    • @TheLinuxEXP
      @TheLinuxEXP  Рік тому +7

      Yeah, it would be pretty great to onboard users

    • @cameronbosch1213
      @cameronbosch1213 Рік тому +3

      @The Linux Experiment I think that could be a great feature to fully debut alongside KDE Plasma 6 and let users know about it from the beginning. It would solve so many issues and that alone could be a HUGE factor in KDE Plasma 6's adoption. Heck, I love KDE Plasma 5, but I want more users to be able to use it!

    • @JTM75
      @JTM75 Рік тому +1

      I hope kde developers read your comment. Manjaro gnome distro had also a layout manager. I think it can't be that difficult to code. Even mate has one.

  • @df3yt
    @df3yt Рік тому +5

    Another cool thing about activities is that the menu remembers different "recent docs" and apps per activity. So it keeps things clean it's really like a different user profile at a click of a button.

  • @rudyleplane727
    @rudyleplane727 Рік тому +22

    Been using KDE Plasma Fedora as my daily driver for years. I discover new features constantly. This keeps the KDE experience exciting and new. Amazes me when 1st time users complain about options! Great video!

    • @ichbrauchmehrkaffee5785
      @ichbrauchmehrkaffee5785 Рік тому +1

      well, when I first dabled in KDE not too long ago, the sheer amount of customizability options was a bit much, honstely.
      It can get very overwhelming at first

    • @Sitwayen
      @Sitwayen Рік тому +2

      @@ichbrauchmehrkaffee5785 I honestly don't understand why the amount of choice is overwhelming. You don't have to try all of it, just what you are going to use. Unless you mean it was hard to find what to use.

    • @xynyde0
      @xynyde0 Рік тому

      @@Sitwayen look up "paradox of choice".
      This is a lot more common than you might think.

    • @bennypr0fane
      @bennypr0fane Рік тому +1

      I don't ever understand when people complain about "too many features", as Nick does once in a while ;-) More options is always more good, as long as you keep it organized and consistent - which KDE has really been working on hard, and been very successful at!

    • @xynyde0
      @xynyde0 Рік тому +2

      @@bennypr0fane no one said its a bad thing. Its just that people are little overwhelmed with all the setting options and possibilities and the fear of screwing up and not being able to reset your system back to the stable stage.
      I was a gnome user and kde had too many options for me. But once i made the switch, i took my time to explore every inch of what kde has to offer. Now i feel that they can always add new stuff! So people just need a little push that's all.

  • @AyushGupta-wn6zd
    @AyushGupta-wn6zd Рік тому +13

    I'm surprised you missed on my most used feature! You can select some text from browser (or anything else) and drag it onto your desktop and it will stick there like a note!. ... Sticky Note!
    I use it all the time when I'm completing my assignments or homework. I go to several websites and put relevant info on desktop, then I construct my answers or reports accordingly. Probably other people can find different applications to this. I think it's pretty cool and exclusive to KDE

    • @TheLinuxEXP
      @TheLinuxEXP  Рік тому +2

      Damn I didn’t know about this one!! That’s great!!

    • @harshsrivastava9570
      @harshsrivastava9570 Рік тому

      holy wow is that cool!

    • @fetB
      @fetB Рік тому

      i also love that selection is saved in a clipboard while kde has another separate cliboard with history. Makes it really easy to copy or find previous copied stuff. Took me ages and gogling to understand there are 2 clipboard

  • @mat_max
    @mat_max Рік тому +82

    I think one of the biggest issues KDE has with its settings is choice overload. The settings page has so many menus each with nested menus inside nested menus all with tons of checkboxes and options that you just feel overwhelmed by the amount of things you can screw up, so you just avoid touching anything there. i'm not saying that they have to reduce options and user choice, but to present it and structure it differently in a friendlier way

    • @MartyAckerman310
      @MartyAckerman310 Рік тому +16

      You're completely right about the overload. I've used KDE in the past but ended up overwhelmed by the configuration options. Now I'm using Fedora with the vanilla version of another DE precisely because I want to focus on my work and not on learning a DE.

    • @blbezcc
      @blbezcc Рік тому +5

      Yeah but some people (including me) absolutely love that.
      But I think there should be some "simplified settings"

    • @guss77
      @guss77 Рік тому +7

      @@blbezcc there is - when you open system settings, you get a welcome page with 5 things that you can change and then you can close that. Everything else that you want to change, you can do as part of the workflow - for example, want to change audio settings? Click the speaker icon on the tray, and if you want to customize more than what the widget offers, a "settings" button there will take you directly to the audio settings page in system settings.

    • @tonystorcke
      @tonystorcke Рік тому +2

      This has been the issue with KDE. Allow a minimalist install.

    • @billmiller4800
      @billmiller4800 Рік тому +2

      They need a good search function for settings, one that is better than what they have! Keep the options, just make them easier to find and maybe show a list of adjusted settings so you can copy a configuration between users or machines.

  • @hindigente
    @hindigente Рік тому +6

    XFCE should take note of your video as well, it's a lot more flexible than people give it credit for.

  • @ouiVEVO
    @ouiVEVO Рік тому +6

    I used KDE since almost 10 years now, and I genuinely never understood what an activity is.
    I always thought it was a weird replacement for virtual desktops.
    Thank you for explaining it.

  • @georgeindestructible
    @georgeindestructible Рік тому +4

    Most people who come from Windows to a KDE based distro are so used to not being able to customize their DE they think what they see is what they get and nothing more. Excellent video.

  • @renealbrechtsen9743
    @renealbrechtsen9743 Рік тому +4

    Would be cool if you did an in depth kde guide. :)

  • @dreflox
    @dreflox Рік тому +10

    I love KDE Plasma. I switched to Kubuntu like two weeks ago and I can't count the number of times I went "I wish I could do this... Oh wait there's a setting for it?!" in comparison to the lack of options/customizability I felt on other distros or Windows.
    I agree on the fact that there should be some sort of interactive guide for all the features because even I am confused/overwhelmed at some stuff, even though I'm very curious and I usually spend a lot of time tweaking settings based on my preferences or needs (that's why I prefer Vivaldi as a browser x) )

  • @fadsfgetal9222
    @fadsfgetal9222 Рік тому +8

    Not only the system, but also the official YT channel of KDE should put some cool desktops and explain how to do it step by step. Such as short video sharing, or a YT channel dedicated to sharing kde's customized desktops, to collect all kinds of desktops.

  • @jGRite
    @jGRite Рік тому +10

    With all those amazing things that KDE can do, I would really like to see an easy import export settings that can be used in the way where if I install KDE on a different system I can easily import my settings. Nothing is more frustrating than setting up everything perfectly, and then having to do that again and again and again.

    • @danielelaprova4119
      @danielelaprova4119 Рік тому +1

      There is

    • @xynyde0
      @xynyde0 Рік тому +1

      @@danielelaprova4119 what is?

    • @puspamadak
      @puspamadak Рік тому

      You can just copy the files in ~/.config folder. Nowadays all KDE tools store their settings in there.

  • @jimbojimberson9934
    @jimbojimberson9934 Рік тому +3

    Nice! Lets see if I can put some of this to work.

  • @galtthedestroyer
    @galtthedestroyer Рік тому +5

    I heartily agree. Especially with your proposed solution about theming. It would be a great idea if they had pre-cooked options for making it look even more like windows or exactly like Apple, maybe big screen / tablet, etc

  • @deathdoor
    @deathdoor Рік тому +2

    "KDE, HIRE THIS MAN!"
    But seriously, Nick could work as a "KDE Ambassador".

  • @xenajin6827
    @xenajin6827 Рік тому +3

    I wanted to switch to a mac but I hate the fact that it cannot be repaired or upgraded. Got a reasonably powerful windows laptop, installed linux with kde. Man, KDE and gnome are the two absolute best DEs out there

  • @kirillfilimonov8583
    @kirillfilimonov8583 Рік тому +9

    Thanks for bringing up this theme! As a long time (kinda) Plasma user, I really appreciate it 🙂
    Plasma is both functional and light. It really should have larger userbase. It has so many features, that even I, as a person that get used to Plasma, do not know about, probably, 70% of them.

    • @nighteule
      @nighteule Рік тому

      I hate how many apps are only designed for Gnome like that's the only DE. Discord's notification badges have been broken for a while for example

  • @trapspringer9891
    @trapspringer9891 Рік тому

    Thank you for this video. This was totally needed.

  •  Рік тому +5

    I think you could have also shown the plasma-browser-integration package which adds stuff like media control for browser windows into the desktop environment (also works in Gnome I think).

  • @DavidEsotica
    @DavidEsotica Рік тому +6

    KDE is my favourite. I would like a bit more stability and UX polish

    • @obvious_giraffe8386
      @obvious_giraffe8386 Рік тому

      Its very stable if you dont touch any of the features he just talked about

    • @omecor314
      @omecor314 Рік тому

      ​@@obvious_giraffe8386 I use these features all the time and my desktop is very stable. I'm running Fedora KDE spin.

  • @moose43h
    @moose43h Рік тому +6

    I switched from popos to kde neon recently. I couldn’t before because it had many bugs but somehow they fixed most of the bugs. It’s has become sooo much stabler.

    • @TheLinuxEXP
      @TheLinuxEXP  Рік тому +4

      Yeah, they improved stability a lot!

    • @Sahil-cb6im
      @Sahil-cb6im Рік тому

      kubuntu Lts is rock solid

    • @moose43h
      @moose43h Рік тому

      @@Sahil-cb6im yes but i would like the stable 22.04 Ubuntu base and the latest kde version

    • @cameronbosch1213
      @cameronbosch1213 Рік тому

      I would like a stable distro with KDE Plasma, but that sadly doesn't exist without Snaps right now, so I use EndeavourOS, even though it's a rolling release distro because that's the only option I like (Debian is too old, Kubuntu, Ubuntu Studio, & KDE Neon all have Snaps, and Fedora doesn't even work for me, whether it be on Nvidia or AMD GPUs) that is usable for me.

    • @Fenrir2123
      @Fenrir2123 Рік тому

      @@moose43h That's just KDE-Neon distro, have you tried it? Its Ubuntu LTS and KDE desktop rolling release.

  • @zedsec
    @zedsec Рік тому

    Really good video mate, I appreciate this video so much

  • @Fenrir2123
    @Fenrir2123 Рік тому +3

    Hi, here a Plasma 5 user for a while now.
    You're absolutely right!! My first impression about KDE was that it was too complex and too broken for me (It was KDE 4). Too many options and didn't know what do most of them.
    Now, after I spent lot of hours digging and actually understanding most of his options (and improves), I found that it has been able to adapt to my workflow while it was changing across years without having to change my Desktop Environment because that. Just knowing what settings to touch and having lot of fun nitpicking my configurations.
    I absolutely agree that Plasma 5 has become a very powerful Desktop but quite unintuitive to Discover (pun intended). They made lot of improvements in that way tho, but still not enough yet for newcomers.

  • @treyquattro
    @treyquattro Рік тому +2

    wow, as a KDE user who didn't know these features existed - a few of which I've always wanted in a DE, and I have them! - I thank you for this description. Or should I say expose' (that's supposed to be an accented e but I haven't figured out how to do accented characters on Linux without copy and paste!)?
    ETA: Aha! I have figured it out: exposé! I was pressing the compositor key and the accent/single quote key simultaneously when I should have been pressing them sequentially! I never would have figured that out if it wasn't for The Linux Experiment!

  • @ArniesTech
    @ArniesTech Рік тому +3

    Yepp thats the Blessing and the curse of KDE. Limitless power and yet no idea how to use it for the user 🙏

  • @csehszlovakze
    @csehszlovakze Рік тому +3

    haven't heard of Khronkite yet, but I heard about Bismuth.

  • @rutepereira7628
    @rutepereira7628 Рік тому +1

    This video helped me so much! I wasn't too familiarized with KDE when I tried it and I found it so overwhelming. This made me consider giving it a new try.

  • @longview3k69
    @longview3k69 Рік тому +2

    Seeing as that I've been finding myself consistently on Desktop Mode on the Steam Deck, this is some extremely useful information and I'm glad they are starting up the welcome app. This is an amazing step forward for the Linux Desktop

  • @-aexc-
    @-aexc- Рік тому +3

    the predefined layouts is a really good idea imo

    • @cameronbosch1213
      @cameronbosch1213 Рік тому

      I 100% agree. Like with what ZorinOS & Ubuntu MATE do, but with KDE Plasma instead of GNOME or MATE.

  • @Sandeepan
    @Sandeepan Рік тому +2

    KDE features was well advertise back in 2010's

  • @francootaola9172
    @francootaola9172 Рік тому +1

    what would be great and almost solve this issue (but not sure how feasible would be technically speaking) would be to have a bottum in the configuration panel, something like 'configurate mode'. that once you click it. if you hover over something with the mouse example action button menu it colorize it, and then by clicking over it, it would exit this 'configurate mode' and it will show all the options that modify the action button menu in one place all together. I remember when i used for the first time kde, i was looking to attache the menu bar to the windows (instead of the mac style where the menu is unconnected to the window and it is in the upper edge). and as i did not know how it was called it was quiet difficult to know how to search for this even by googling it. like at the end I found it obviously, but neverthless this took way more time that it should have.

  • @digitalage2010
    @digitalage2010 Рік тому

    Great video. Thanks Nick. 🎉

  • @peterschmidt9942
    @peterschmidt9942 Рік тому

    Thanks for explaining the "Activities" feature. I'd seen it before and never understood why you would want to use it when you have a heap of virtual windows anyway? Now it makes more sense.
    I never use the alt-space KWin search as you can click anywhere on the desktop and it pops up as you start typing anyway. It's one feature I find most useful and a drag when I have to go back and use Windows on the occasion.
    I think when they release a new versions of KDE, an intro video or link to one would be a great option showing you how to use the new features.

  • @chaosSpectre370
    @chaosSpectre370 Рік тому +3

    Installed Arch a few days ago, chose KDE cause I liked it on the steam deck and heard it has tons of options, so more control for me.
    This video exposed a lot of things I didn't even brush in KDE, so yeah a better explanation of it would go so so far in improving its usage. I also do think the UX of the settings and whatnot could be improved a ton. The quick settings home page really isn't enough to let users know what they can do, and there isn't anything leading people to truly check out the user made options for themes and stuff out there. Its been fun to dig in, but it feels like something is missing between the existence of KDE and the knowledge of usability of it. Hopefully a robust welcome app can fix that.

  • @johnstath9666
    @johnstath9666 Рік тому +6

    Finally someone actually says out loud what users quietly sit and wonder about. Thank you Nick!!

  • @JM-tj5qm
    @JM-tj5qm Рік тому

    I completely agree with you, I was just writing a comment saying KDE needs a welcome app and a layout switcher when you mentioned it

  • @mtpolak
    @mtpolak Рік тому

    Wow Dude! Great video! It just inspired me to wonder of KDE based distro which could present such things during install - for example imagine such scenario:
    -user boots live environment,
    -clicks install OS,
    -installation continues in background completely,
    -interactive tutorial app teaches user how to use KDE.
    -when user decides to reboot after installation, he is asked if wants customisation be moved to just installed OS or fresh start

  • @muddyexport5639
    @muddyexport5639 Рік тому

    Thanks! Good info!

  • @vishalkumar040393
    @vishalkumar040393 Рік тому

    This is just amazing. I didn't know about most of the features that you explained. Now I am confused which one to try, KDE plasma or POPOS.

  • @qedqubit
    @qedqubit Рік тому +1

    best thing they got so far is Niccolo Ve and you, to inform us about the capabilities

  • @badwolf6690
    @badwolf6690 Рік тому

    Thx man, i didn't know a lot of that

  • @20quid
    @20quid Рік тому +2

    What if there were a way to package different settings into a "behaviour pack". A bit like a theme but instead of changing how the desktop looks it changes how the desktop works. They could even be packaged with themes to give a complete ecosystem change in one click.

  • @neotwenty-nineBzH
    @neotwenty-nineBzH Рік тому

    Excellent video. Tks.

  • @wildmanjeff42
    @wildmanjeff42 Рік тому

    Thanks for the video Nick !

  • @chrisbenn
    @chrisbenn Рік тому

    OMG! Thank you! I did not know so many of the things you mentioned in the video! :-D

  • @averagemamil4523
    @averagemamil4523 Рік тому

    Great video - agree with all your comments 👏

  • @spsf64
    @spsf64 Рік тому

    Great video! Is it possible to enable sound effects like, windows open/close/minimize/maximize/restore, etc... like the old Kde 4.x series used to have?

  • @kingsway1019
    @kingsway1019 Рік тому

    I totally agree with the tutorial point!

  • @thebyzocker
    @thebyzocker Рік тому +1

    the funny thing with kde connect is that i discovered it through a gnome extension and NOT through kde itself lol

  • @VeitLehmann
    @VeitLehmann 6 місяців тому

    I totally agree. Just played around with KDE a bit. All the bits and pieces are there, but the defaults are far from well-designed. For example, the default animations are too long and make the whole desktop feel sluggish, and the default layout is basically a Windows copy. It's possible to create an awesome environment, but it's so easy to mess everything up. Some things that should be easy are hard instead. For example, I have to visit many different places to change the overall look and feel of the desktop. There are global themes, but I can't save my own changes there. I can download complete themes, but there's no obvious way of removing them again.
    All this makes me tinker with different things, trying to craft my optimal UX, but only getting 90% there. But then I also don't want to start over because I have already put so much effort in configuring things. This leaves me back as an unhappy user, thinking "I bet it could do what I want, I just don't know how".
    I still think KDE has a lot of potential, and I'd love to see more adoption and success for the project. But it's not for me just yet. Let's see what Plasma 6 will bring to the table, I'll give it a try for sure!

  • @zparihar
    @zparihar Рік тому

    Great Video!

  • @7th_project
    @7th_project Рік тому

    the activity desktop wallpapers is something I've always wanted for KDE, I wish Activities looked like the Gnome Overview, will start using the Activities though Thanks!!!

  • @lala-jy4kz
    @lala-jy4kz Рік тому

    I used KDE for a while, although there are a lot of functionalities, I still could not find some good solutions to these two things. Overall experience, a lot of things to play with, but a little annoying in some small places.
    1. If I turn KDE in (any) dark mode, the text in the UI of the foxit reader turns white, but the background of the UI is still white, so I can not see the text in the UI of the foxit reader.
    2. Hover window in the task bar. When there are multiple(4 or 5) hover windows for one icon in the task bar, I hover my mouse to that icon, and try to move my mouse to the right most (or left most) hover window with a straight trace, then all the hover windows disappear too quickly, I could not move my mouse to the right place. In the default task bar of KDE, I could not adjust the time that the hover window could stay. I know in Latte(a third-party task bar), this staying time can be adjusted. However, in Latte, the UI of hover window is ugly, and I can not tolerate and can not change it.
    Based on these two reasons, I switched to Gnome, because gnome does not have such kind of unavoidable annoying things. But I could not adjust too much in Gnome settings. When I need to adjust some details in the settings, I always swich back to KDE, use the settings in KDE, and then switch back to Gnome.
    But I have to say, the global application menu in KDE is wonderful. In gnome, "Gnome Global Application Menu(HUD for Gnome)", this extension overlaps with anaconda, what a pity.

  • @azaharia10
    @azaharia10 Рік тому +1

    You could do a Concise in-depth tutorial about the KDE Plasma

  • @unixviking
    @unixviking Рік тому +8

    Many, many thanks for this video! I just switched from a long-term hardcore GNOME user to KDE Plasma two days ago and I'm completely blown away by the fine visuals and possibilities - and also a bit overwhelmed. So your video comes just at the right time for me. I haven't had a look at KDE in over 10 or more years, and my memories were not good ones. But now KDE is a stunningly beautiful, fluffy desktop - and much more elegant than the chunky, clunky GNOME. I think I'll stay.

  • @ebsolas
    @ebsolas Рік тому +2

    I’ve actually used all the features mentioned in this video. And I only started using Linux 2 years ago. Though I chose KDE specifically because I wanted to tinker with and customize it so I’m not the average user.
    Also there’s one feature that I hate that KDE is missing. The ability to disable the edit mode. Once I’ve dialed things in I don’t want to have to deal with the edit mode any more. Accidentally deleting my main task panel has happened to me multiple times now. Let me “lock” it

    • @YounesLayachi
      @YounesLayachi Рік тому

      i think Xfce has a lock feature ? or was it LXQt ?

  • @theodoros_1234
    @theodoros_1234 Рік тому +2

    As a seasoned KDE user, I completely agree with you! I've at least tried most of the features that KDE has, but that's after using the damn thing since 2018. KDE is so powerful, and beginners should be aware of what possibilities are lying ahead of them.

  • @Dargaard
    @Dargaard Рік тому

    Thank you for this, there was so much I didn't know about, I feel like this just opened a door.

  • @harshal259
    @harshal259 Рік тому

    Loved the video! All the UX shortcomings were very nicely explained, in a constructive way.
    The anime wallpaper on personal activity - was it a reference to babywogue? 😅😁

  • @mml1357
    @mml1357 Рік тому +3

    To me, Activities is one of the more powerful tools Plasma has. I used it a lot.

  • @ArisPLteles
    @ArisPLteles Рік тому +1

    The funny thing with activities from my experience- after so many years using it I once found that you can pause activity and its apps to preserve resources and switch from work setup to leisure.
    And next day unpause it and got it in the same stage as left.
    I learned that by accident. They make it on purpose like dark souls hidden lore?

  • @RobbieHatley
    @RobbieHatley Рік тому

    Fascinating. I had no idea that an "activity" could have its only desktop background (unlike "virtual desktops", which cannot). Ok, I just made two very-different looking "activities". Thanks for the tip!

  • @snoobab_86
    @snoobab_86 Рік тому

    KDE connect, I have known about it and used it, but I am still lost. Your video shed more light on that. Will experiment more. :)
    Only major gripe I have is that the connection is lost once my phone locks. I really do not want to keep my phone unblocked the whole time. Maybe I am being stupid. Lol

  • @n1vz3r
    @n1vz3r Рік тому

    Also, KDE has a nice thing called Baloo. When it works, it works. When it doesn't - RUN!!! (and you won't notice it untill it's too late and your journal is flooded with coredumps while you're out of swap space while your processor melts through your motherboard)

  • @thebusinessfirm9862
    @thebusinessfirm9862 Рік тому

    Grazie per questo video. Molto bravo Nic.

  • @idanikamal4789
    @idanikamal4789 Рік тому +16

    your timing is perfect, I legit just moved from buggy gnome env ( fedora ) to KDE env ( EndeavorOS ) and im loving so far, the amount of simply working components on my arch distro is insane and the customization is limitless with KDE

    • @Samy-sx6kn
      @Samy-sx6kn Рік тому +2

      I used Fedora for many years with KDE. Works great. An desktop environment is no reason to change the distro.

    • @ezra1369
      @ezra1369 Рік тому +1

      @@Samy-sx6kn exactly fedora offers a KDE version as well so idk why they didn’t use that

    • @xenajin6827
      @xenajin6827 Рік тому +1

      @@ezra1369 it's probably due to the fact it is at the bottom of their website unlike their fedora with gnome

    • @AndyGait
      @AndyGait Рік тому +3

      I recently moved to EndeavourOS myself. Loving it.

    • @cameronbosch1213
      @cameronbosch1213 Рік тому +3

      @Samy Fedora isn't great though. I've had much worse experiences with Fedora compared to EndeavourOS, both with KDE Plasma. Sadly, EndeavourOS is the best option for me as a KDE Plasma user.

  • @Naeidea
    @Naeidea Рік тому

    I loved using the Activities during lockdown, I was on KDE Neon and using Windows as a VM for work and had it and Teams and whatever web apps I needed on an Activity I called "Work" just like this video.
    As soon as I done with work I would switch to my one called "Personal" and carry on with my own stuff as if nothing happened, super fluid, super easy and so good I sometimes forgot about it and thought "Oh crap I need to load all my work stuff again" - No I don't. Switch back and I'm back in everything I need.

  • @hrstwn
    @hrstwn Рік тому

    Fantastic Features and Where to Find Them

  • @bicicogito989
    @bicicogito989 Рік тому +1

    Been using the KDE spin of Fedora for several years. I love-love-LOVE Activities in KDE. Powerful thing about Activities is that they can contain multiple Virtual Desktops logically organized with Activities as well. And yes... not too much information on this out there. PLUS, I can navigate the Activities and Virtual Desktops quickly and efficiently via keystrokes alone.
    KDE though, has REALLY been hurting me with the buginess of multiple monitors. It pains me, sometimes quite acutely, but I LOVE KDE spin of Fedora SO MUCH I will remain a dedicated user!!!
    Say NO TO FLYING CARS!!! What a monstrously terrible ideal/concept!! Cars should be relegated to underground tunnels!

  • @brandon_wallace
    @brandon_wallace Рік тому

    Nice video. Are you going to make a video on other desktops and window managers?

  • @davidm7640
    @davidm7640 Рік тому

    Please make a review of XFCE 4.18 and show us how notifications work. Also I would like to know about pop ups when increasing and decreasing sound volume.

  • @ricardoi.3275
    @ricardoi.3275 Рік тому

    I was amazed at trying Kubuntu! KDE has so many settings and customizations! I feel like I'm in a candy shop! But I have my reservations about indicating it for newbies or work. You do need so much time to understand what you can do and what you can't. Some frugal things like "send to desktop" are less intuitive than doing that on Gnome, for example. I miss the block button with a pin or password to prevent accidental customization. KDE has so many good things that it's a shame that not many people know about some good stuff.
    Ps: Maybe I didn't find that button, but who knows? So many options to explore.

  • @enkiimuto1041
    @enkiimuto1041 Рік тому +2

    I wish Zorin came with KDE out of the box because of that.
    I'll see if next time i'll switch to Kubuntu or MX.

  • @RaZerGamiing1
    @RaZerGamiing1 Рік тому

    I used kde for a few months recently, and it was super easy to customize. my monitors and desktops kept breaking or not being enabled though, so I had to switch back to xfce.

  • @electroexperience_electronique

    KDEConnect was the 1st mindblowing thing I saw when I installed KDE for my 1st time. Doing virtualy anything at distance with my phone.... Just amazing, little bit bugged for SMS, but everything else is soooo great

  • @JPinto-sx8yx
    @JPinto-sx8yx Рік тому

    Totally agree. And I say this as a full time KDE user. I have never understood the use of spaces 🙋🏻‍♂️

  • @estebanpa7923
    @estebanpa7923 Рік тому

    Big thanks

  • @baozhongimperial3851
    @baozhongimperial3851 Рік тому

    Really interesting, makes a lot of sense! Hope KDE community will hear you

  • @undersiege3402
    @undersiege3402 Рік тому

    from messing with it a lot lately id say is a rabbit hole to get into, some stuff still need some customization tho also im quite surprised i still didnt break my os yet

  • @gullijons9135
    @gullijons9135 Рік тому

    Thanks for this! I've used KDE for more than 10 years and I had no idea about Activities. I'm starting to use that already tonight!

  • @javaman2883
    @javaman2883 Рік тому

    I've been using the activities for a coupe years now. I previously used the virtual desktops, and they met most needs. But the activities are more powerful giving me more options to customise each. Switching between activies and virtual desktops are almost the same speed for me.

  • @linuxstreamer8910
    @linuxstreamer8910 Рік тому

    i made my kde look like gnome 38 with the dash to dock extension thanks to latte dock & a kde panel on top

  • @kamilkasprzak4319
    @kamilkasprzak4319 Рік тому

    Hi, you have nice wallpaper on your desktop :). Can you share information where them can be found?

  • @ConchobharMag
    @ConchobharMag Рік тому +5

    I still have my Ubuntu Studio KDE drive, and what really baffles me is how the Linux community is always stereotyped with the dreaded Terminal criticism, while KDE is right there not advertising that KDE Plasma allows anyone who cares to be Indiana Jones or Lara Croft, to change anything into something else without ever opening Konsole.
    GUI settings buried away where only developers or preexisting users would find them. And KDE could really do with a Settings Bookmarking system so we can find commonly used features and options again.

    • @omecor314
      @omecor314 Рік тому

      It has that (kind of): when you open KDE settings, on the bottom of the right panel you will see all the most used settings.

  • @MartyAckerman310
    @MartyAckerman310 Рік тому +1

    OK, you talked me into it. I'm a Gnome user but I'll give KDE another try.
    But to me, KDE always seemed like a shopping cart full of groceries. Yeah, someone with the time and skill can probably make a great meal, but a lot of people just want to eat a default dinner and get back to work.

  • @andreluiz9726
    @andreluiz9726 4 місяці тому +1

    Great video

  • @ramjetriddick5985
    @ramjetriddick5985 6 місяців тому

    So true ......... That's why I am here trying to find the tiling

  • @thiagoprando2872
    @thiagoprando2872 Рік тому +1

    I always used gnome and it’s good but 4 years ago I ran into KDE and I figured out that with a few customization it becomes much more productive because it does and fits exactly your needs. I think that’s the goal of a DE, right!?
    Nice video, I’m pretty sure KDE community appreciated it and it will help a lot of people to start using KDE and of course also the community to improve it.

  • @johnjohnny1076
    @johnjohnny1076 Рік тому

    Thanks for this video. 20 page setup isn't an issue once people can skip it. Garuda has a good example for what kde can do. An optional setup assistant is what it needs. People can setup once then delete or use it when you want to make more changes or create custom themes.