How to REMOVE and INSTALL Stronger DRIVESHAFTS?
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- Опубліковано 20 лип 2018
- So with a bigger lift, bigger tires and some harder wheeling in the future, it was time to upgrade my Jeep Wrangler JKU's driveshafts. I opted to install Adams Driveshafts 1350 Front and Rears. In this video I head over to my good friend Mike's shop (San Diego Off-Road and Custom) so we could use his lift and tap into his technical experience. #jeepmods #driveshaft
Adams Front Driveshaft: bit.ly/1350Front
Adams Rear Driveshaft: bit.ly/1350Rear
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Too bad he didn't mention what size socket to use for those yokes. I laughed at "don't overtighten the pinion yoke or you may damage the crush sleeve", then he attacks it with an impact gun and says "yep, that feels about right" lol
Very kind of Mike to share his knowledge on this driveshaft install. Lots of great information all around on this install! Thanks!
Very nice! I also went with Adams for my XJ and I love them. No issues at all, great upgrade!
I've really been wanting to see this video after all the discussion of needing to have a stronger driveshaft when you start lifting your jeep over 2" and getting 37" tires and bigger. I just watched your Teraflex break upgrade, so I'm really glad this one came up on suggested videos. Thanks again for all the informative videos on axle upgrades and suspension upgrades and finally seeing the driveshaft upgrade!
Another great video. Drive shafts have been covered many times before but it was really great to see a FULL video doing both front and rear, and a solid explanation of both. Well done guys
Thank you, I really appreciate that!
Got an idea, anytime you guys do an upgrade like this how about laying out all the tools you used and go through them. Talking sizes and techniques to use, like pullers n such. Just an idea so when someone doing it at home they can gather the tools before starting the project. Love your channel keep up the great content!!!!
Excellent upgrade. Your how-to videos are perfectly done, never leave any room for doubt. I like that angle of doing these type videos...you can't assume the viewer knows what he /she is doing. Have to come in as if they never seen a drive shaft in their lives, and you do. Well done. I'm out of the Phoenix area and Lakeside is not that far away. Thanks for the share.
I really try to keep the beginner in mind when filming, I know we are all learning as we go! Thank you!
This was extremely detailed for a driveshaft video. Very nicely done. Mike knows what he’s doing for sure. I get to do this to mine this weekend
I have Adams drive shafts, and have a majority of my build with Northridge 4x4... Both are awesome!!!!!!
Nice drive shaft upgrade👍good to see the local guys getting pub!
Awesome video and awesome upgrade. I also went with 1350 but from Tom Woods and piece of mind.
Really nice too see such a good step by step! Thanks guys!
Really glad you enjoyed it, thank you!
Great tutorial video Mike showed attention to detail work.
As usual awesome video and great attention to detail ☝️👍
Homework and research pay off! 1310 on my wrangler works great!
Great video!! Thanks for sharing! Very helpful hints when you upgrade your driveshafts.
Thanks! Mike offered some great information during this install, really appreciated his help.
I have Adams Driveshafts in my TJ excellent products and quick build time. I am rather rough on parts and they have held up perfectly!
Good video with great info and narration
nice upgrade and video. always looks easy when someone else does it
Wow look at the leverage physics @15:19 , so cool.
Although I wheel with an ‘86 Suzuki Samurai, I faithfully watch all of your Jeep-centric videos. ALWAYS informative. A couple years ago I broke u-joints on both ends of my rear shaft. Now running Spicer 1310s on custom shafts front and rear. Compared to the stock set-up, they are way beefier and plenty enough for the 31s which look huge on my scaled down rig and offer plenty of ground clearance with a 79” wheel base.
I love the Samurai's.... I've seen them go places a Jeep can't go! Great to hear the 1310's are working well for you.
The folks at Adam's driveshafts are good people. Been to their shop a couple of times.
I got to speak with them a few times on the phone, great small business owners!!
Big timely upgrade as the OEM driveshafts were just about done. My goal is to locate a shop similar to Mike's shop and high skill level or attempt the installation myself thanks to all of Mike's tips.
It's a great upgrade and I'll tell you every time Mike and I hang out in the garage I learn something new!
Great drive shafts good instructive video brad thx from the other coast like always
Thank you! Cheers from the Pacific!
I just ordered mine the other day!!
Mike is cool cat very professional great info on install I'm thinking of doing it soon thanks
LOL. That was some super quick way to check pinion preload, done only with impact gun. The true master of impact gun from wild west!
He wasn’t kidding about those driveshafts being hard to remove. It took me about 3 months of busting through rusted bolts and hammering away at the front and rear drive shafts before I finally broke them off the vehicle.
Now I’m here, learning how to install the new driveshaft that I will now have to buy.
Good mechanic, takes the time to mention the torque spec's & other things making an unexperienced back yard mechanic a better chance of success of getting this job right the first & only time.
That is a sexy upgrade!
It's nice knowing I don't have to worry about the driveshaft anymore.
That looks like a solid upgrade indeed.
It's nothing flashy, but it's some good trail insurance.
New subscriber here. This was just awesome. I bet you were so giddy about getting this new and improved drive shaft. I am trying to learn about cars through playing Car mechanic simulator 2021. I know that probably won't teach me about how to install things but I am learning about the names of the car parts. Thanks for uploading this video. Hope to see more of your videos.
Nice video. I wouldn’t hesitate to have him work on my Jeep!!!
had first the 1310 and when I went to coilovers, went to 1350s and never worry as I have Adams under my Jeep
It's all about peace of mind!
I also hate when I get those gas tank scratches when I am jumping curbs at the local mall 😂 Great video
1350's are perfect for a rig that sees good action off road.
I've had 1350's with a Tom Woods shaft on the rear for 10 years and all I've had to do
is grease them a few times a year. Double cardan's will really smooth things out!
10 years on 1350's is the kind of life I'm looking for!
You know me as OROZŪK. (I guess I need another UA-cam login ID.) I’m in nearby Vista. Met you at the O’land Expo. Keep up the good work. We need to run Valley of the Moon when it cools off. Meanwhile their are always the mountains...
Great install and video. Q: Is it necessary/must to adjust driveshaft-pinion with the upper control arm?
Thank you.
Mike is a good guy... I grew up in Lakeside! Brad, former Master Chief?
Run some 1350 driveshafts on my JK. Nice not to have to worry about them.
Brad.. Relocate that EVAP canister above the rear axle!
Agree, the canister needs a new home soon!
@@TrailRecon metalcloak makes a nice bracket for the evap canister.
MC did you end up needing the exhaust spacers over the Y-pipes after installing these new drivehafts or no? Looks great!
Hey Brad, love your videos! I have a Metalcloak 3.5” lift and just put in the Adams 1310 front driveshaft. I’m running about 5* of caster and 1* pinion angle. What are you running and have you had any issues thus far?
Awesome thank you for this video. I learned a lot in anticipation of owning a jeep one day
Love the driveshafts! Brad, do you have any trail recon t shirts?
I've got a few t-shirts available here: shop.spreadshirt.com/trailrecon. Thanks!
Sorry to hear about the XJ!
I need a Mike in south Texas..
I need Mike in North Dakota
Do they make spods for a Cherokee like the one you put on your wrangler?
can't say thanks enough for this one! I get my Jeep this year, I will definitely go with the Teraflex lift kit and some 37" tires, so this was awesome! thanks so much for all the videos and off road trails and seeing how some of these Jeeps perform and all the great trails that are out there that I never even knew about a few weeks ago!
What attachment did he have on that RTV sealant, that have him a handle?
What kind of grease do I need Brad? Just got my 1350s in the mail today!
I just had Rebel Offroad replace mine. I do notice the Jeep seems to be a little more responsive when hitting the throttle.
Excellent video! I this upgrade in my future on the WJ im eyeballing a set of Tom Woods DS , Lets us know how they perform?
Thanks! Its actually been on for 2 weeks now and I don't even notice they are there, but knowing I've got a better angle and strength is one less thing to worry about on the trail.
These are bad ass, how much did both of these cost?
What size is the nut holding the flange on to the differential?
Now that you have had your Adams Drive shafts for three and a half years would you install them again? I am looking to upgrade the shafts in our 2014 JKU due to Rzeppa joint failers.
So I need to ask about the length for the rear drive shaft, what size is it ?? 42" ?? I have a 2015 jku Rubicon with a 4" lift and 37" tires and I need an upgrade
I just updated my drive shafts to Adams because of the stock one busting.
What size is that Posi Lock puller? Looks like maybe a 104?
Hi. Just noticed some people put the sealant on the spline. Is there a disadvantage doing so? Cheers
Punch holes in the back where it meets the dif
Does the drive shaft I buy depend on the axel housing or gearing that my Jeep currently has? For instance, I have a Dana 30 front Axel housing on my JKU with like 3.56 gearing. If I upgrade to a Dana 44 with 4.88 gearing will I need to buy a new drive shaft for that?
Hey Brad.. It's probably been mentioned already but although your technician means well, It's never a good idea to install a pinion nut with an impact. Transfer case side as well. Who knows how much torque is on the transfer case side. He set his torque wrench to 160ft lbs and the nut never moved before it clicked.. I can bet money he changed the preload on the pinion bearing as well.. Please do yourself a favor and take it into a driveline shop and have them change your crush sleeve and reset your preload accordingly. It'll save you aggravation and money in the future. You're way too good of a guy to have a shop burn you accidentally... How's the stock steering off road with the 37's? I can bet you're looking at a PSC system.. Keep the shiny side up bud.. Happy wheeling...
Also, for the extra $4
why not change the seal as well? you already had it apart.
What is the bolt size for the rear axle
Brad did you upgrade your camera as well as the Jeep? The new videos look really good.
Nope, I've been using a Canon 80d for almost a year now, it's a great camera. Thanks!
Hi - great video, thank you for posting. Listen, I'm trying to get the driveshaft off an old volvo of mine and I can't seem to get it out of the rear diff. I noticed Mike used a hammer to simply pound it out...just wondering what surface he was pounding away at - was it on the shaft itself or on the female end of the rear diff, do you remember? Whatever he was doing seemed very efficient and I'm hoping to replicate his technique. Great looking Jeep you got there!
Changed mine last year, had the same issue getting the old CV bs off. If you watch closely when he's lowering the old DS down (6:22-6:29) you can see where the diff end is like a psuedo female adapter(that really shiny part is the male part to the psuedo female adapter), it slides over the male DS side about a quarter of an inch. Tap on the male side, anywhere in front of that. I have a massive set of slip joint pliers, I grabbed the shaft and hit the pliers at the bite point, alternating sides, and it will come undone. If you're doing a replacement in kind, just be certain you don't damage the female side of that diff joint
No ujoint on factory driveshaft?
If the new has a smaller diameter than the stock, why was there a conflict with the transfer case cable mount with the new when there wasn't with the old?
I think I overtightened the pinion nut that he is saying to to overtighten cause it will change the preload. Now I get a clicking noise when decelerating. Could it be it? can I loosen the nut and tight it again ?
If you do a search for "San Diego Off-Road and Custom" a Yelp listing says it's permanently closed. :( Is Mike working at or have another shop now?
Brad, it’s been a while since you had these installed, how often are you re-greasing your drive shafts? Are you doing it every oil change? Any challenges you’ve run into?
They have been holding up great and honestly I have been trying to keep up with greasing at every oil change. No challenges.
My drive shaft is done for I've been looking at this one but I'm too broke to get it
The hammer banging method is not working out for me, am I doing something wrong? The rear shaft just won't come off
Have a 08 3.8 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited 6 inch lift where do I order
I have a 09 jku with a 2.5 rk lift with oem control arms. Do I need adjistable control arms for a drive shaft like this?
Manuel Castillo I was told “only over 3 inches do you need to change the control arms and drive shafts”
Brad do these work with the NON-RUBICON T-Case? I looked on the link everything pretty much just only says Rubicon compatible.
I have a JK and mine looks identical ( at the flanges) to the work done here
So how’s the driveshaft been holding up???
Noticed the Adams driveshaft yokes don’t use a dust cover for the pinion seal. Is there or reason for this or is the factory dust cover considered an overkill? Wondering if it is likely for a spec of sand to get trapped between other pinion and the seal and create unwanted grove without the dust cover.
I wondered the same thing but noticed there's some type of rubber material there sticking out. I also wondered about the gap where the OEM Style front flange mates with the Adams OEM Style. There's a gap being there where it seems like crud could get behind it....I'm sure they've thought about this though...
Brad, do you have any concern of the 1350 exceeding the strength of your other components putting your axle at risk of failure. Adam's website states that 1350 is recommended for running tires beyond 37s on D60s.
No concerns. I talk with Adams about that very issues and they still recommended 1350s.
Correction.....a driveshaft transfers power to the axles from the "transmission"......🚙💜💕
My driveshaft is just fine, buddy!
What size posi lock did you guys use!?
this answer won't really help you with a specific size, but keep it small. There's not a lot of space on the front size of the transfer case. Think puller arms 3-4" long max.
Driveshaft is popular shaft is it?
Anyone know of a good shop in or around Monterey California?
What year is your Jeep??!? Would be helpful.
2015
How much does this type of labor usually cost? I just ordered my and was wondering if it’s worth it taking it to a shop rather than doing it myself? How much in labor fees?
2023 - I was quoted $240 by the local Jeep dealer to install a front drive shaft if I supplied it. It took me close to 4 hours and I still need to revisit the bracket (see 14:30-14:50). I would say I was working slow for multiple reasons including having to beg, borrow tools from neighbors and shuffle around tools when the rain came. So the $240 would have been well spent but I learned a ton as well. I will write up a summer below too. FWIW, another '4x4' local shop said they would install their own custom shaft for $1400. Yikes!
Why did you go with 1350? What’s wrong with 1310?
1310's would be fine with 37's tires, but they are at their limit. I like to hit a challenging trail from time to time and who know what tire size may be in my future.... with 1350's I'm good for the long haul.
If you could do wheeling and UA-cam fulltime and move anywhere in the US where would it be? And y?
Doing UA-cam full-time would be a ton of fun! I think living somewhere centralized between CA, AZ, UT and CO would be perfect.... unlimited trails in the the Southwest region.
TrailRecon If we could combine UT and CO trails with Centarial CA weather nobody would want to leave ;)
TrailRecon Hi from Sicily, Italy btw!! Can't wait for our tour to be over and head back to the States!! Hopefully JL desiel will be ironed out and one waiting on us in 2021 :)
Shit I didn't put rtv on my nut 🤦🏻♂️
Brad, do you have lockers and have beefed up your gears for your 37” tires? I know you up graded your breaks. Thanks
I have the Rubicon, so yes, front and rear lockers. I'm still running the stock 4:10 gears for now.
Thanks
How is a u-joint strong than what the factory had
The factory joint is a constant velocity style joint with small ball bearings and bearing cages. A u-joint is a large chunk of steel with a channel for grease, the joint caps use small needle bearings, but they don't take the torque shock and load that the cv joint does.
An Impact gun she’ll never ever be used to torque the pinion nut. There is a high chance of bearing scoring.
There is a tool called “Torque Multiplier” that’s what he needs to torque and pinion nut.
A torque multiplier would be a great tool to have. No mention of it in Adams instruction though: With the Impact gun tighten down the pinion nut until the socket comes to a stop. NOTE: DO NOT KEEP TIGHTENING THE PINION NUT AFTER THE SOCKET HAS STOP. If you keep tightening the nut you will over crush the crush sleeve and the pinion bearings will burn up.
That is per “Dana Spicer manual”. Loosing or tightening any pinion nut. I had no clue till my buddy built me a Dana 60 rear axle for my Fj cruiser and that’s how I found out about the sensitivity of the pinion nut/bearing scoring.
A lot of shop don’t know or knowingly take the shortcut which can be disasters. In which they are shorting the life of the bearings.
I have a question. Why did he torque the front but bot the rear? He torqued to the front to 160 ft/lbs but just used an air gun to put the rear on.
Pinion gear has a preload setting based off the torque required to turn the driveshaft. The idea behind his work on the diff side was to NOT screw with the preload setting. I've heard a lot of DIY guys say it's easy to do and I've heard a lot say, never do this without checking preload with a dial torque wrench.... Basically if you screw up you'll eat your rear diff up in a few months
But I did mine following a similar method a year ago and...so far so good
Retorque??? All the bolts have lock tight.
What happened I thought you DIY for your own jeep 😑🤨
Sometimes it's nice to have a friend lend a hand so I can focus on the filming side of things. I love DIY, but I won't ever turn away a little help!
How many people will ruin their pinion bearings from this video
Is this guy getting paid by loctite?
really bro u just got done beating it up with a 3lb sledge and now you say dont hit. cmon pretty sure trail rocks hit harder than you. keep yer day job !
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