theres this sick glitch where if both players are using mercenary base, if a unit from red and a unit from blue get into eachotheres range they start treating eachother like enemies, and its so fun to see the mercenary bases sabotage eachother by killing the other's units
@@hernanignacio6400Yeah. It's counterable if you know about it because it's about the same in effectiveness as w9 MAR. Unnless you're using a directly stronger variation with Warden,your other option is to just infinite wave 7 stall until you get 2k eco by wave 8. (And to add on to this:Randoms don't know how to use strategies properly. This was the case with most strategies piss has made.)
I found a good early start with a lvl 1 shotgunner then spam normals. You wont struggle with cash so much that you have to bring g cowboy. The biggest threats are the bolts and hidden bosses imo.
one thing that would fix the mode a bit (you should be familiar with this one): sending stronger enemies dont give much/decrease your eco. this was a thing in btd battles 1 and it made spamming the late game stuff really an offensive option instead of an eco option
Yeah, when I was against golden cowboy users, only time I send is when I know that they may be overwhelmed, if they are not, then I will stop, I use farm so my economy is not being hurt, that bad. Just has to balance farming and defending.
this pvp mode is looking good for a testing phase, sure it have some of its questionable things but it can be improved and im looking forward to this mode
existing (pvp) bugs: game ends at wave 25 and makes both teams lose breakers you spawn that break will create breaker2s on your side farm doesnt give money sometimes
The first thing they should change imo considering the very limited starting towers is lock spawning enemies for the first 2 or 3 waves because whoever just dumps normals on round start wins
i feel they can make there be chosen modifiers from both players which can decide together and then also certain versions of difficulty for normals wave but inturn the winner get more money same with modifiers
I hope they add alot more waves and remove all the bugs. Also make eco better than farming. Also its really easy to tie since stuff like pyro will just kill everything.
yo elite. i played tons of pvp and i've made a really good loadout Brawler, GPyro, GCrook, Commander. it uses only 4 towers but u leak minimally even while ecoing and ur able to defend 99% of rushes
Another good strat I found (I don't have golden cowboy) was g soldier. Somebody spent at least 3/4 of their money sending and 4 soldiers were able to completely decimate them and I ended up winning without sending a single thing lol
they are defenlitly adddign more maps, and fixing the red thing on your screen and might add an aut o send or an ability to turn off the red text that blocks ur screen when u spam it
If your gonna go with a good loadout, have a tower that can have HD early game since if all your towers don't have HD yet and the enemy sends a hidden rush, your basically dead
tbh the main problem is that the devs treated pvp mode like btd battles. but normal zombies are like 5x more threatning bc most towers have no pierce and normal zombies have 4 hp instead of 1
BTD battles does it well because almost all of their towers can pop multiple bloons with pierce, but TDS just copied the idea of sending enemies for eco and forgot that enemies don’t have 1 hp or any towers have piercing.
I summarized everything and my loadout is gladiator dj commander cowboy (normal) and dps tower (i use either executioner or mortar though) at wave 7 u will live even if they spam hiddens , the whole plan is to stall at wave 7 infinitely until u get 1k cash eco bonus. Also while getting lvl 2 cowboys to 3 while doing so. 2 gladiator lvl 2 and 2 lvl 3 cowboy is enough to deal with hidden spam. Just forever stall jntil u get everything maxed lvl if u have the patience.
Based on the 20ish games I had today, here's the big issues I have: 1. Splash/Pierce towers are too overpowered here - Especially gold Pyro and Gladiator are absolutely horrendously broken in this; it's a death sentence for whoever doesn't have either of them and goes against someone who does 2. Infinite timer at normal/slow boss introductions - The logical thing to do is eco stall out forever; this has to be changed 3. Ending at Wave 25 - A bit too early(we don't get to use tank); perhaps wave 40 or even 50 would be better 4. Bug: Breakers spawning weirdly - It is enough to end yourself due to the blue breakers spawning out of nowhere 5. Bug: sometimes, when you press a spawning button, the game tells you to 'wait for 1 second' even though the timer is already over TLDR: Badly balanced BTDB lol (To be fair, this is a pvp TEST and most probably by no means polished)
theres a weird bug where if you killed a necromancer or breaker, and the person you 1v1ing hasnt yet, wherever the breaker dies or necro spawns, it spawns on your side as well making it appear they are coming from thin air.
How to win PVP mode without hurting each other: Step 1: Equip Regular Cowboy, Pyromancer, & DJ. You'll have to tank if you use golden cowboy, which means you lose. If both of you equip pyromancer, you can just spam normals & increase income without hurting each other. DJ just makes things easier. Step 2: Get down 4 level 2 regular cowboys. Step 3: Upgrade 2 cowboys to level 3. Step 4: Spam level 2 cowboys until you reach the placement limit. Step 5: Place a pyromancer at the start. Now start spamming normals for money. Step 6: Get a level 3 DJ. Step 7: Upgrade cowboys to level 3, then to level 4.
Hey, Elite, For The Loadout, Can I Use The Normal Versions Of Gold Cowboy And Gold Pyro? Does Gold Mini Also Work? (If Gold Mini Was In The Loadout), If Yes, Reply To Me Please.
Doesnt matter if you use golden or non golden pyro golden mini works but its not really good normal towers are better i won against someome using normal crook boss normal pyro militant and trapper
Elite you should try G pyro G mini Farm commander dj I crushed so many opponents since G pyro can melt hordes and G mini is just amazing for mid game no matter how many they send the pyro will melt them easily.
The thing is yes, gold cowboy and gold pyro are beyond busted in this. 2 gold pyros defend infinite breakers and slow bosses, and cowboy gives so much cash that you can buy the pyros early. But here's the thing, there's no reward for winning. You COULD use super op towers, but why not just CHOOSE to use towers with actual weaknesses? It isn't like you're missing out in anytkng for losing... I will say, if i was to balance them, i'd make pyro have a pierce limit, and cowboy get the bloon trap treatment. In battles 2, bloon trap was nerfed so that it can't make money off of bloons sent by your opponent, only the naturally spawned bloons. I think cowboy could get the same treatment.
The PTSD it’s all coming back because you said the word it pains me to say it but e..c..o ahhhh please don’t come back reeee anything but the ceramic Rush
Jester's really good defense Rather than using G cowboy for early, use it for mid game it will be a lot better, you won't leak that much if you use jester
Ive noticed a lot of people using gold cowboy as early defense and having no defense against hiddens, I usually bring gold pyro as early defense, get hidden detect, and then go ham on spamming hiddens on their side lool
Elite btw it does not matter if you put the zombie on one hp even tho if it has like 5hp it will still do 1 to your base just a quick reminder if you dont now
Economy in this pvp mode is a bit like investment. you put in money for something and that money could be a lot more than what you spent. btw same loadout when I did it first
shotgunner, regular crook boss, commander, i won 14 games in a row only using these three towers, i still havent lost a single game of pvp mode. Get 2 level 2 shotgunners by wave 7 (at the first 4 way path), then a level 2 crook (in the circle, making sure its far back enough so that it can see the entire roundabout and you can place down another shotgunner at the 4 way path), get two more level 2 shotgunners, get the crook to level 3, get a level 1 commander (this will be around wave 14ish), spam bolts on wave 15 if the survive up to that point. No matter what they send you, until wave 15 you will be able to defend it, ive been rushed by every single enemy at this point and survived with zero leakage, and the more things they send means the more time for you to get the economy money every 30 seconds. (this strat doesnt require ecoing yet i recommend it if they cant defend your eco zombies) just under half of my games ended before or on the round of the first boss via rushing hiddens or them not being able to defend my eco normal zombies. And im only level 36, you can probably improve this further with golden pyro instead of crook boss, or golden crook boss, or golden pyro for commander (being placed earlier than the crook boss)
The problems with new test run Eco is unbalanced Too little towers do to little splash to counted sending No point for late game towers as it ends to early Bugs(which is expected as it is a test run) Hiddens can be sent to early like w 7 the only tower that can reasonable deal with a hidden rush that early is pyro
youtube thinks this is bloons td battles lol
Yeah click on description
LOL
So many balloons
lol
it is frfr
The first round you played is literally what happened to me in the first time i played
uh, that may have been me who did that to you-
@@zombiecat264or maybe it can be me-
@@zombiecat264 or me
When I played I couldn’t upgrade or sell accelerator.
Wow elite, nice Bloons TD Battles gameplay!
Edit: the joke is the game tag is btd battles
Lmao.
in btd battles you can only have 4 max units
@axolatol_gaming the joke is yt thinks the gameplay is bloons td battles
@@axolatol_gaming the gameplay is basically the same still
@@EsbestgirlNot exactly, different towers = different strategy. All tower defense games is basically the same idea anyway.
Elite: I will stop at 12k eco
Also Elite at the end of the match: Over 20k eco 💀
theres this sick glitch where if both players are using mercenary base, if a unit from red and a unit from blue get into eachotheres range they start treating eachother like enemies, and its so fun to see the mercenary bases sabotage eachother by killing the other's units
Is it patched?
@@Basta192 nah but i think it might be intended ngl
“If youre not using some loadout like mine, youre gonna lose”
Shotgunner breaker meta (aka the backshot meta where you have no time to kill breakers):
My honest reaction with Shotty and GP in the same loadout:
I've seen people using it and they always lost
The towers that I use for pvp are:
Golden Cowboy
Golden Pyro
Enginner
Commander
Elf camp
level 3 gpyro demolishes breakers if you have atleast a bit of other dps, wich you should with gcowboy otherwise you will be poor as heck
@@hernanignacio6400Yeah. It's counterable if you know about it because it's about the same in effectiveness as w9 MAR. Unnless you're using a directly stronger variation with Warden,your other option is to just infinite wave 7 stall until you get 2k eco by wave 8.
(And to add on to this:Randoms don't know how to use strategies properly. This was the case with most strategies piss has made.)
I love how i'm the only one here using mortar and gladiator
the fact that the game at the bottom is "Bloons TD Battles" is crazy LOL
Ikr devs got lazy to the point of copying dead ninja kiwi game
@@ulgrineh1fr tho
@@ulgrineh1 can't have success without haters...
@@Orion-ey5jrspeak your mind 🗣️🔥
@@ulgrineh1not dead
dude this is the BEST bloons TD battles gameplay keep it up man!
To be honest, props to the last opponent, he somehow survived all of that spam till the end.
it's been a while since i've seen a btd battles video, thanks for breathing life back into this game
😂
You CAN send enemies on mobile.
I’m not sure, but I think it was like that on release.
Your opponent probably didn’t know how to change menus.
Yeah I also realized this when I tried to open the consumables it opened the enemy spawner thing instead
The pvp mode is actually kinda good and its also fun but it can be a lot better
the amount of times i’ve died to enemies randomly spawning very far along the track infuriates me
Breakers and necro summons are broken.
They should make it progress difficulties or be intermediate instead of easy mode
Well it’s public testing for a reason
@@pjalcon fr the enemy's breakers just start spawning on ur track
this was the best bloons td vid i ever seen!
W content can’t wait for the next video
Bro love the videos! I just got an Elite Accelerator skin today it's awesome! 😎
Nice Bloons TDS Battles gameplay. Glad to see someone remembers this game. Love you Elite!
This is the Best Bloons TD Battles video i ever seen!!!
Nice Vid elite love your channel and vids been subbed for 2 years great job
Literally any crowd control in pvp is must have. Haven't seen anyone who wasn't spamming zombies.
I found a good early start with a lvl 1 shotgunner then spam normals. You wont struggle with cash so much that you have to bring g cowboy. The biggest threats are the bolts and hidden bosses imo.
one thing that would fix the mode a bit (you should be familiar with this one): sending stronger enemies dont give much/decrease your eco.
this was a thing in btd battles 1 and it made spamming the late game stuff really an offensive option instead of an eco option
Cool tip it’s better to not send zombies since they might have golden cowboy but if not spam zombies
Yeah, when I was against golden cowboy users, only time I send is when I know that they may be overwhelmed, if they are not, then I will stop, I use farm so my economy is not being hurt, that bad. Just has to balance farming and defending.
@@DemiCape try sending hiddens since most cowboys are only spamming level 2's and cant see them
this pvp mode is looking good for a testing phase, sure it have some of its questionable things but it can be improved and im looking forward to this mode
biggest tip ever: shotgunner also works on PvP to clean the enemy spam from ur opponent
W BTD6 video Elite
If you could look in chat, you can clearly tell the happiness that he is feeling to see a UA-camr lol
3:35
existing (pvp) bugs:
game ends at wave 25 and makes both teams lose
breakers you spawn that break will create breaker2s on your side
farm doesnt give money sometimes
Tip: spam shotgunners to prevent slow spammer. If they dont bring shotgunner, Just spam slow at wave 4.
The first thing they should change imo considering the very limited starting towers is lock spawning enemies for the first 2 or 3 waves because whoever just dumps normals on round start wins
i feel they can make there be chosen modifiers from both players which can decide together and then also certain versions of difficulty for normals wave but inturn the winner get more money same with modifiers
I always love sending a few zombies early, then that’ll bait them to send lots more. So my cowboy gets lots of shots
BTD Battles 3 is looking pretty cool
I hope they add alot more waves and remove all the bugs. Also make eco better than farming. Also its really easy to tie since stuff like pyro will just kill everything.
Why would they add more waves when they would make eco better than farming 💀
As an OG PVP player with 129 triumphs, I remember when the best tower was the sniper
Or was it?
yo elite. i played tons of pvp and i've made a really good loadout
Brawler, GPyro, GCrook, Commander. it uses only 4 towers but u leak minimally even while ecoing and ur able to defend 99% of rushes
That's me :D 3:15
Hey elite quick question do you have community mini gunner skin?
You should play the new TDX Update :
Endless mode
Golden towers
XWM Turret
never thought i'd see the day where it'd come back -me and my 34 wins from og pvp
funfact : u can give buffs with support towers (dj / commander) if u place it in the middle.
One thing is that when you kill the final breaker, they respawn out of nowhere in the path and just go into your base like trolls.
Another good strat I found (I don't have golden cowboy) was g soldier. Somebody spent at least 3/4 of their money sending and 4 soldiers were able to completely decimate them and I ended up winning without sending a single thing lol
they are defenlitly adddign more maps, and fixing the red thing on your screen and might add an aut o send or an ability to turn off the red text that blocks ur screen when u spam it
If your gonna go with a good loadout, have a tower that can have HD early game since if all your towers don't have HD yet and the enemy sends a hidden rush, your basically dead
gotta love Bloons TD Battles. A classic on the elite channel. Definitely not a misconception by youtube.
tbh the main problem is that the devs treated pvp mode like btd battles. but normal zombies are like 5x more threatning bc most towers have no pierce and normal zombies have 4 hp instead of 1
Most base towers in TDs do more damage than base towers in btd but yeah you are forced to use piercing towers or explosives
BTD battles does it well because almost all of their towers can pop multiple bloons with pierce, but TDS just copied the idea of sending enemies for eco and forgot that enemies don’t have 1 hp or any towers have piercing.
I summarized everything and my loadout is gladiator dj commander cowboy (normal) and dps tower (i use either executioner or mortar though) at wave 7 u will live even if they spam hiddens , the whole plan is to stall at wave 7 infinitely until u get 1k cash eco bonus. Also while getting lvl 2 cowboys to 3 while doing so. 2 gladiator lvl 2 and 2 lvl 3 cowboy is enough to deal with hidden spam. Just forever stall jntil u get everything maxed lvl if u have the patience.
Based on the 20ish games I had today, here's the big issues I have:
1. Splash/Pierce towers are too overpowered here
- Especially gold Pyro and Gladiator are absolutely horrendously broken in this; it's a death sentence for whoever doesn't have either of them and goes against someone who does
2. Infinite timer at normal/slow boss introductions
- The logical thing to do is eco stall out forever; this has to be changed
3. Ending at Wave 25
- A bit too early(we don't get to use tank); perhaps wave 40 or even 50 would be better
4. Bug: Breakers spawning weirdly
- It is enough to end yourself due to the blue breakers spawning out of nowhere
5. Bug: sometimes, when you press a spawning button, the game tells you to 'wait for 1 second' even though the timer is already over
TLDR: Badly balanced BTDB lol
(To be fair, this is a pvp TEST and most probably by no means polished)
tip: don’t bring cowboy for pvp often, normally use engineer, golden soldier, pyromancer, shotgunner, and maybe gold scout.
Nice tower battles gameplay,
Wait... how do you play PVP gamemode? is it only accessible to testers?
This gamemode has a very prominent meta, get some aoe dmg like pyro, spam enemies, boom, your opponent has to defend.
This mode is exactly like bud battles, I understand why UA-cam would think that
theres a weird bug where if you killed a necromancer or breaker, and the person you 1v1ing hasnt yet, wherever the breaker dies or necro spawns, it spawns on your side as well making it appear they are coming from thin air.
I like PvP, If the test is so Fun, the real PvP relase Will be fire 🔥🔥🔥
UserEEE wit another banger
I hope the 1v1 fully comes out
How to win PVP mode without hurting each other:
Step 1: Equip Regular Cowboy, Pyromancer, & DJ. You'll have to tank if you use golden cowboy, which means you lose. If both of you equip pyromancer, you can just spam normals & increase income without hurting each other. DJ just makes things easier.
Step 2: Get down 4 level 2 regular cowboys.
Step 3: Upgrade 2 cowboys to level 3.
Step 4: Spam level 2 cowboys until you reach the placement limit.
Step 5: Place a pyromancer at the start. Now start spamming normals for money.
Step 6: Get a level 3 DJ.
Step 7: Upgrade cowboys to level 3, then to level 4.
Btw one thing u should only send if they don't use cowboy or don't have hidden by wave 7.
The BEST way to increse eco in early game is just to spam normals they are cheap and increase the eco by quite a lot
You can also send out a tank on wave 26. But the game ends with a grave digger on wave 25
the man behind the slaughter strategy
Wow this TD battles update looks fire
8:20 when you rejoin the game, the game bugs out and you’re not able to send zombies to your opponents
yes that's what happened to me
Either:
Give more starting money or make the spawns a little more expensive
Hey, Elite, For The Loadout, Can I Use The Normal Versions Of Gold Cowboy And Gold Pyro? Does Gold Mini Also Work? (If Gold Mini Was In The Loadout), If Yes, Reply To Me Please.
Doesnt matter if you use golden or non golden pyro golden mini works but its not really good normal towers are better i won against someome using normal crook boss normal pyro militant and trapper
Great Btdb content 👍
Elite you should try G pyro G mini Farm commander dj I crushed so many opponents since G pyro can melt hordes and G mini is just amazing for mid game no matter how many they send the pyro will melt them easily.
I cant wait for it to be solved like tower battles pvp.
whoa the new Bloons td battles update lets go!
sometimes 1 person has the chance to start the macth and when that happens you get an extra 100 starting cash
I played it with my friend, at the end of the wave i had more hp but we both won?? so uhh, good job tds!
The thing is yes, gold cowboy and gold pyro are beyond busted in this. 2 gold pyros defend infinite breakers and slow bosses, and cowboy gives so much cash that you can buy the pyros early. But here's the thing, there's no reward for winning. You COULD use super op towers, but why not just CHOOSE to use towers with actual weaknesses? It isn't like you're missing out in anytkng for losing...
I will say, if i was to balance them, i'd make pyro have a pierce limit, and cowboy get the bloon trap treatment. In battles 2, bloon trap was nerfed so that it can't make money off of bloons sent by your opponent, only the naturally spawned bloons. I think cowboy could get the same treatment.
So far, the pvp is good but needs some tweaking and better balancing
Oh I remember your old vid of pvp mode lol the one with noob and admins
the new pvp mode on bloon td battles is crazy
epic vid!
good btd battles vid
The PTSD it’s all coming back because you said the word it pains me to say it but e..c..o ahhhh please don’t come back reeee anything but the ceramic Rush
BOO! REGEN CAMO RAINBOWS
Jester's really good defense Rather than using G cowboy for early, use it for mid game it will be a lot better, you won't leak that much if you use jester
the breakers spawning stuff on your side is intentional (i think)
its supposed to add a risk/reward gameplay style
keyword **supposed**
Bloons Td battles gameplay was so cool!
hope yk units can kill units (like the tank can kill elfs on the other presons side)
Pyro now has time to shine
Ive noticed a lot of people using gold cowboy as early defense and having no defense against hiddens, I usually bring gold pyro as early defense, get hidden detect, and then go ham on spamming hiddens on their side lool
There's so much bugs in it lol
Any enemy summoned from enemies spawns on both sides, some waves can be made infinite, etc
elite, you should check out the engineer buff
Elite i got an interesing interacion. If rifleman lvl 2 is close to the enemy path, he can shot enemy units like crook boss goons
Its true, test it while open testing
Shotgunned is low key OP for this mode atleast until like the breaker wave bc it leaks like 1 speedy breaker
Idk if it’s just me but when ever I try to play when the enemy sees cowboy they just instantly leave it’s like they fear me
there's also infinite duration waves which you can just eco forever on
Hold up How did you place 4 commanders if it has a limit of 3 now???
Btw on rounds with infinite wave length you can get infinite eco (idk if he explained this)
Elite btw it does not matter if you put the zombie on one hp even tho if it has like 5hp it will still do 1 to your base
just a quick reminder if you dont now
The only pvp round I played I've overwhelmed my enemy with infinite necros 😭💀
Economy in this pvp mode is a bit like investment. you put in money for something and that money could be a lot more than what you spent. btw same loadout when I did it first
the second guy said "AM STILL STANDING"
also i wonder why there is tank 26 at waves to spawn them when there is only 25?
shotgunner, regular crook boss, commander, i won 14 games in a row only using these three towers, i still havent lost a single game of pvp mode.
Get 2 level 2 shotgunners by wave 7 (at the first 4 way path), then a level 2 crook (in the circle, making sure its far back enough so that it can see the entire roundabout and you can place down another shotgunner at the 4 way path), get two more level 2 shotgunners, get the crook to level 3, get a level 1 commander (this will be around wave 14ish), spam bolts on wave 15 if the survive up to that point. No matter what they send you, until wave 15 you will be able to defend it, ive been rushed by every single enemy at this point and survived with zero leakage, and the more things they send means the more time for you to get the economy money every 30 seconds. (this strat doesnt require ecoing yet i recommend it if they cant defend your eco zombies)
just under half of my games ended before or on the round of the first boss via rushing hiddens or them not being able to defend my eco normal zombies.
And im only level 36, you can probably improve this further with golden pyro instead of crook boss, or golden crook boss, or golden pyro for commander (being placed earlier than the crook boss)
The problems with new test run
Eco is unbalanced
Too little towers do to little splash to counted sending
No point for late game towers as it ends to early
Bugs(which is expected as it is a test run)
Hiddens can be sent to early like w 7 the only tower that can reasonable deal with a hidden rush that early is pyro