Storytelling CLICHÉS #2: Examples Suggested by My Viewers!

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  • @Vale-tg1og
    @Vale-tg1og 5 років тому +132

    (In anime) When the main character gets this newfound strength cause they remembered they have friends

    • @dindapriska
      @dindapriska 5 років тому +10

      Fairy Tail

    • @floatingpyro2050
      @floatingpyro2050 5 років тому +2

      Yugioh

    • @PsychoMagnet
      @PsychoMagnet 5 років тому +5

      @@floatingpyro2050 They basically just asspull the card they need at the last moment.

  • @CreativaArtly
    @CreativaArtly 5 років тому +163

    CLiche: tripping over something at the last minute possible in front of the love interest

  • @DreamTravelerZenddrex
    @DreamTravelerZenddrex 5 років тому +59

    One of my least favorite clichés is this conversation:
    Friend 1: (conflicted) Hey, [Friend 2]...
    Friend 2: What?
    Friend 1: (three second pause, followed by shaking their head) Nevermind. It’s nothing.
    If I was Friend 2, the conversation would continue like this:
    Friend 2: (grabs Friend 1’s shoulders and shakes them violently) If it was nothing you wouldn’t have brought it up in the first place so spit it out already!!

  • @JutsuStealer91
    @JutsuStealer91 5 років тому +145

    Cliche1: The child hating his parent or parents(for most of the story) for being away or working hard, but the kid doesn't understand that its been to protect them the whole time.
    Cliche 2: The main character who is typically a loner, seems to always be romantically compatible with the first person he or she meets on their journey.

    • @theberrby6836
      @theberrby6836 5 років тому +12

      Ah I hate number 2! With a burning passion..

    • @averge3041
      @averge3041 5 років тому

      I find cliche 2 in animes most of the time

    • @HTMangaka
      @HTMangaka 5 років тому

      Cliche 2: Does Miki Falls count on this cliche? No spoilers, but I feel this one was in there somewhere near the end of the first book. Of course, it works in that case.

    • @TheGoldenPS1
      @TheGoldenPS1 4 роки тому +2

      Cliche 2 is always find in manga/anime and JRPGs. Japan seems to love that but I also found it in Xuan-Yuan Sword EX Gate of Firmament. Once he lost his family and the village he becomes a loner and becomes increasingly attached to a girl from a different world with powers. That falls well under cliche 2.

    • @DragonGateDesign
      @DragonGateDesign 4 роки тому

      Number 1 is real life lol

  • @SalamanderMagic
    @SalamanderMagic 5 років тому +49

    I’m sure this has already been mentioned but I feel like it happens SO often: A person trips or stumbles and gets into a compromising position with their love interest.

  • @Nuzzling
    @Nuzzling 5 років тому +215

    "We're not so different, we have a lot in common, the same earth, the same air, the same sky. Maybe if we started looking at what's the same instead of always looking at what's different... Well, who knows?"
    - Meowth, from the pokemon anime

    • @Dawnshade1
      @Dawnshade1 5 років тому +29

      It's used in a different way than the typical "we're not so different you and I" speech. The villain is usually trying to convince the hero to join their side or to break them mentally but in that instance it was used to stop the fighting so everyone could live in peace. Fascinating. Thank you for bringing that up.

    • @mushroomdude123
      @mushroomdude123 5 років тому +1

      I think I know what episode you mean. It involved Ash’s Chimchar right?

    • @KahiraAmi
      @KahiraAmi 5 років тому +10

      @@mushroomdude123 It's from the first Pokémon Movie. I like that scene, it's kinda cute.

    • @theberrby6836
      @theberrby6836 5 років тому

      @@Dawnshade1 I agree

    • @GKOALA7
      @GKOALA7 5 років тому

      Meowth is my favorite Pokemon!

  • @mandymckk
    @mandymckk 5 років тому +215

    Character: “I wouldn’t EVER do that thing you want me to do!”
    -cut to the character doing that thing -

    • @ClulesslLobster
      @ClulesslLobster 5 років тому +8

      I wouldn't post a comment...

    • @Octoboobs
      @Octoboobs 5 років тому +7

      @@ClulesslLobster I wouldn't respond to you

    • @novaff3796
      @novaff3796 5 років тому +2

      @@Octoboobs I wouldn't say a thing...

    • @The_OG_Twilight_Princess
      @The_OG_Twilight_Princess 4 роки тому +5

      Loki (To Thor): "We're not doing get help."
      2 seconds later, Thor runs through the door holding Loki
      Thor: "Get help! My brother's dying"!
      That was my favorite.

  • @themagicloki3169
    @themagicloki3169 5 років тому +89

    I saw this one mentioned on Twitter a while ago.
    The useless/forced romance subplot which ignores that it is entirely possible for a man and a woman to just be friends.

  • @JohnnyJP7
    @JohnnyJP7 5 років тому +83

    Avatar: We are not so different, you and I.
    Anime: I know.

  • @pokepawchannel
    @pokepawchannel 5 років тому +55

    In the horror genre, when the main character is walking on a dark place some sort of noise can be heard in close proximity. After a moment of tension it is reveal that the source is a cat, or some rats, or anything to that extend. And when you relax, HERE COMES THE JUMPSCARE!

    • @LuckySketches
      @LuckySketches 4 роки тому

      Get the shields down.
      Tension, relea-TENSION!

  • @idlydog1232
    @idlydog1232 5 років тому +63

    Oh one of the funniest cliches that I always love seeing is when a character goes "I am NOT doing this" or "I do NOT want to go there" and next thing you know the scene cuts to them doing that exact thing, or being in that exact place, and not being thrilled about it in the slightest.

  • @dylanhale7300
    @dylanhale7300 5 років тому +39

    I've got 3 for you
    1 Firearms never run out of ammo or jam until they're about to be used on a main/named character.
    2. Cars have unlimited gears, and you can always show a increase in speed with a gear change.
    3 Vehicles can take all manners of abuse in movies and story's and such, yet when a main character spins a baddy car off the road, the either terminally crash or give up the chase entirely.

  • @yoniverbugt7075
    @yoniverbugt7075 5 років тому +174

    The one I notice almost every time, is when a character falls in the water, sort of drowns, then gets pulled from the water by the main character who tries to revive him. But apparently doesn’t succeed, so (almost) starts crying. When suddenly the character coughs, spouts out a bulge of water and survives. Yeey, everyone happy!xD It also happens in some other “almost deaths”.

    • @xander5762
      @xander5762 5 років тому +6

      yoni verbugt yup like in San Andreas (2015, spoilers if you haven’t seen it)
      Where Blake is literally under water for minutes and even seen to take in a lot of water but when Ray rescues her, he tries to revive her for like 1-2 minutes but fails, takes a deep breath and tries again and suddenly succeedes like wow, suprise

    • @yoniverbugt7075
      @yoniverbugt7075 5 років тому

      Xander exactly!

    • @ashnikfield4224
      @ashnikfield4224 5 років тому +1

      That is the exact moment in my book 😂😂

    • @RB-nt6zx
      @RB-nt6zx 5 років тому +8

      I find it even worse, when the saviour almost gives up in frustration and starts hitting the drowned persons chest. And suddenly they wake up. Like, a hit doesn't build any pressure and doesn't pump any blood.

    • @clairedex
      @clairedex 4 роки тому

      @@RB-nt6zx The Abyss is the funniest example of this.

  • @PochotheEntity
    @PochotheEntity 5 років тому +24

    during a really tense moment when you’re expecting something to happen like a jump scare, a friend of the protagonist pops out instead and laughs. Taking away the tension, only for that friend to be killed or the real jump scare to manifest a moment later.

  • @kath.4006
    @kath.4006 5 років тому +59

    One cliche I've noticed in action/adventure movies is when the love interest (who is usually female) is initially illustrated as strong, powerful and independent, but at the end, despite all their earlier character development, they become utterly helpless to the antagonist, and only the hero (who is usually male) can save them.

    • @BijinMCMXC
      @BijinMCMXC 5 років тому +3

      Kat H. Oooo that’s a good one

    • @jackhammer4499
      @jackhammer4499 5 років тому +8

      SAO in a nutshell.

    • @Thollis1987
      @Thollis1987 4 роки тому +3

      Sakura Haruno from Naruto. She had the training and the chakra to heal countless people, and when Sasuke reappears, she falls off to a hopeless kunoichi who can't stop loving him. Even after he threatens the ninja village and her friends...

  • @perry7808
    @perry7808 5 років тому +68

    When a character cuts their hair it either means a symbol of their new-found rebellion, or a plot change in the story. Either way something epic is to follow.

    • @SalamanderMagic
      @SalamanderMagic 5 років тому +9

      Yup. That goes for a makeover in general too. Sometimes its just a change in clothing and stuff

    • @TransparentLabyrinth
      @TransparentLabyrinth 5 років тому +7

      Ya know, it occurs to me, this is probably a cliche in film because the visual appearance of a character is so consciously constructed in the first place to ensure you know who they are and what kind of person they are at all times. So they use a makeover/outfit change to help convey that the character as a person has changed significantly, or is going through some kind of important growth phase.

    • @naturesquad9174
      @naturesquad9174 5 років тому +9

      That's like a real life cliche, not just fiction

    • @LuckySketches
      @LuckySketches 4 роки тому +5

      It's actually a cultural thing, depending on the culture. In Japan for example it's normally used this way. It's a symbol of cutting off one's old ways.
      There is also the visual signal of the character looking different, but sometimes they actually don't the next episode. Because reasons.
      Now in Europe, on the other hand, hair is more of a symbol of power (huge generalization, I know), so cutting one's hair would be more of a sign of vulnerability or loss of power.
      It all kind of depends.

  • @ArtofJosephFinchum
    @ArtofJosephFinchum 5 років тому +67

    Still didn't do my favorite one...
    The sudden inexplicable noise that turns out to just happen to be a cat.

    • @androth1502
      @androth1502 5 років тому +9

      and after the characters are relieved that it's just a cat, the real monster pops out.

    • @Carbon2861996
      @Carbon2861996 5 років тому +1

      Always a cat.

    • @kkcolors
      @kkcolors 5 років тому

      yes but after years of having cats. its always the got dang cat

  • @shrimppimp4509
    @shrimppimp4509 5 років тому +36

    The crossover episode where everyone is immediately buddies or after a short misunderstanding

  • @singerofsongs468
    @singerofsongs468 4 роки тому +7

    My favorite trope is basically a whole book plot. 16-year-old Mary Sue was never like the other girls. She loves cute boy A, but the ~evil corrupt government~ says she has to marry cute boy B! She begins breaking the laws to see cute boy A in secret, while seeing cute boy B while she’s in the public eye. She almost begins to fall in love with cute boy B and doubts her true intentions, but then she decides to *singlehandedly overthrow the government* so that she can be with cute boy A.

  • @levi91802
    @levi91802 5 років тому +40

    Cliché: When the master of the story's hero is very unfriendly, mean and just is a horrible person while teaching said hero. Classic.

  • @marry6merra90
    @marry6merra90 5 років тому +30

    the blushies are never cliché !!

  • @LuckySketches
    @LuckySketches 4 роки тому +5

    "We see this in Avatar."
    Raises pitchfork
    "...The James Cameron movie."
    Lowers pitchfork

  • @navysteel
    @navysteel 4 роки тому +5

    1: The evil bad guy spawns every 1000 years and the heroes have to seal him back again.
    2: Zombie apocalypse due to a virus or necromancy.
    3. Teenagers at private military academies fight the forces of evil.

  • @kodiak196009
    @kodiak196009 5 років тому +42

    I'm sure this one was mentioned before..."the one character who everyone thinks will make it all the way till the end of the story is taken out...Ala Gandalf the wizard....yet returns to triumph over the evil".

  • @salokinnoraa
    @salokinnoraa 5 років тому +56

    I was fanboying so hard when I saw my comment! I really appreciate your response and view on it! Thanks for another great video, Crills McCrilldog!

  • @jodel5784
    @jodel5784 5 років тому +31

    I think one of the most popular cliches which people might not even notice is the "Yelling/Saying the name of your special moves" cliche which is so common. But I think it's used as a way to remind readers/viewers the name of the ability and it also sounds cool sometimes.

    • @dindapriska
      @dindapriska 5 років тому +5

      That covers basically almost every ninjutsu/abilities in Naruto

    • @jodel5784
      @jodel5784 5 років тому +1

      @Mewshrew 12 Yeh but I usually find it cool. I can't really think of a show where it's just annoying. But it might really be the most used cliche. It's no only in anime but a lot of other stuff.

    • @jodel5784
      @jodel5784 5 років тому

      @@dindapriska True. But they literally don't have to say anything. All they have to do is their hand signs then use the ability. But it actually is cooler to hear them yell...RASENGAN!!!.....CHIDORI!!!

    • @Carbon2861996
      @Carbon2861996 5 років тому +1

      Can you imagine Rocky movies where they yell every move they do?

    • @jodel5784
      @jodel5784 5 років тому +4

      @@Carbon2861996 That would actually be pretty funny.

  • @amberloftus7341
    @amberloftus7341 5 років тому +59

    In a dance movie, about a day before the 'big dance' the characters get in a fight and one of them splits up. Then within minutes or even during the dance that character shows up just in time.

    • @sleepiesalem
      @sleepiesalem 5 років тому +6

      Most of the step up movies tbh.

    • @b3an_
      @b3an_ 5 років тому +3

      *flips table*

  • @erazormk7199
    @erazormk7199 5 років тому +9

    Another cliche. In horror movies, people keep tripping when they run away from monsters or serial killers.

    • @xander5762
      @xander5762 5 років тому +2

      Emerson Branham yeah, like it isn’t hard to run. I do see the other sight tho. You are focusing so hard to get away from villain/monster that you don’t always pay attention to your surrounding but running isn’t the most complex thing to do

  • @christianemerson4622
    @christianemerson4622 5 років тому +32

    A cliché I've seen a lot is that NONE of the main/important characters die, or they do, but it get's retconned in the next book/episode/movie.

  • @peaoat3608
    @peaoat3608 5 років тому +6

    "Do you wanna talk about it?"
    "No, I'm fine..."

  • @leonfatmandrawings
    @leonfatmandrawings 5 років тому +18

    In one arch of the story, the hero and villain have a grudge but in a later arch they join forces to combat a greater foe.

  • @wolfsydproductions9082
    @wolfsydproductions9082 5 років тому +16

    One cleché that really bothers me is when in a story (usually at the beginning) a quirky screwup character who is seemingly good for nothing ends up being "the chosen one" and is sent on a mission to the dismay of his friends.

  • @beatrixthegreat1138
    @beatrixthegreat1138 5 років тому +32

    “Coming right up our expose on conveniently place newscasts in tv shows, but first Peter look out for that skateboard”
    Peter: ahhhhhhh *falls on the floor*

  • @Supernovafruitloop
    @Supernovafruitloop 5 років тому +34

    I've already said this in the previous video but I'll try to say it this time without waffling on xD
    The cliche where super close friends end up falling in love with each other, or one develops romantic feelings for the other and the other being oblivious to it, good friends can just stay as good friends ya know.

  • @astrocrud
    @astrocrud 5 років тому +18

    If you edited together a super-cut from movies and TV of every scene of a person jolting upright in bed gasping for air after a dream it would be 500 hours long.

  • @tarell676
    @tarell676 5 років тому +14

    Clichè nr.236: At some point in the story, usually near the climax, an important character to the protagonist is shown in a situation where they seem to be killed, only to show back up later, usually after the climax or to become a "Deus Ex Machina" in the final part of the climax. Often with only a few scratches.

  • @BlackHei711
    @BlackHei711 5 років тому +28

    Remember when Vegeta blew up a few planets wiping out millions or even billions of innocent lives. Don't worry. He's a good guy now.

    • @AnimeGirlYaoiChan
      @AnimeGirlYaoiChan 5 років тому +6

      It didn't happen over night though. It took awhile for his character development which it should if you want to be more realistic

    • @BijinMCMXC
      @BijinMCMXC 5 років тому +1

      He was exactly who I thought of lol

    • @BijinMCMXC
      @BijinMCMXC 5 років тому +2

      Ironic Kid But before that he and Nappa killed a bunch of people on Earth when they first arrived, including Yamcha, also Vegeta slaughtered a bunch of Namekians, and Bulma was so terrified of him she had a dream about him coming to murder her on Namek. But when they got back to Earth - even after he bragged about killing Namekians and laughed himself silly over it while everyone stood there looking pissed knowing they couldn’t do anything to him because he was way stronger than them (one of my favorite scenes lol) everyone basically forgave him pretty quickly and Bulma immediately offered to let him stay at her house lol. So yeah not realistic at all and definitely fits the cliche. Vegeta was such a bastard 😂

    • @astrojeet
      @astrojeet 4 роки тому

      @@BijinMCMXC Lol Vegeta also loved beating up Gohan who was 5-7 years old in Namek. It was not his actions but Goku's endorsement (because he was the last of his kind) which humanized Vegeta in his friend's eyes. But it took him many years until the end of the Buu Saga where Vegeta truly changed when he sacrficed himself and finally acknowledged Goku to save his son and wife. Vegeta was such a bastard, but he was a very complicated bastard who was very compelling. We as a viewer wanted him to change and that in my eyes is good enough.

  • @Mult1Core
    @Mult1Core 5 років тому +10

    i hate this one:
    "I have a plan, but you have to trust me" then proceeds to not tell the plan at all leaving everyone in the dark for no reason until the minute before the "plan" starts

  • @harrisonhiggins125
    @harrisonhiggins125 5 років тому +6

    Cliche: There’s a one of a kind creature that is discovered in the first movie. In a sequel to that movie we discover that there are more creatures like it. (Examples: How to Train Your Dragon 3, Smurfs: The Lost Village)

  • @aewilliams1171
    @aewilliams1171 5 років тому +10

    When the characters say, "This isn't like one of those cartoon/movies/video game", even though they are fictional characters in a fictional story. It's kind of a weird self awareness that sometimes feels like it's trying too hard to separate itself from what came before it.

  • @slaterwoman9237
    @slaterwoman9237 5 років тому +6

    I have one: When characters want to explain themselves, usually from a disagreement, they start out by saying "Look..." and then start explaining their reasoning. I've never heard anyone say this in real life lol.

  • @georgiafowosh3334
    @georgiafowosh3334 5 років тому +5

    Siblings that mistreat each other all the time and treat this as something normal. Then something awful happens to one of them and the other one suddenly shows empathy. Then they go back to normal. Bonus points if they say 'Nobody torments my sibling but me!'

  • @Camera123
    @Camera123 5 років тому +9

    The Time Skip.
    The story has suddenly jumped ahead a few years. The protagonist has completed his or her training off-screen. The main characters are sporting new looks. A new enemy has risen in power. And any unpopular characters and convoluted plot points are conveniently dropped.

  • @Pogohg
    @Pogohg 5 років тому +32

    One cliché that actually bugs me is the "my friends are my power"-cliché. It is when a character, usually in anime, manga and Japanese game, suddenly gets more powerful or more motivated because his/her friends are cheering them on. It as also often accompanied with a line like "I won because I had help from my friends" or the like.

    • @Kongaslam
      @Kongaslam 5 років тому +10

      Sora kingdom hearts. My FrIeNdS aRe My PoWeR. The power of friendship compels you. 🤮

    • @Rettomus
      @Rettomus 5 років тому

      ​@@Kongaslam Then again, the only time I remember "Friendship" being used as an actual power up in Kingdom Hearts was not by Sora, but by Aqua at the end of BBS, and it was through actual magical trinkets (Wayfinders).
      They just talk about friendship an awful lot.

    • @sleepiesalem
      @sleepiesalem 5 років тому +2

      Fairy Tail in a nutshell.

    • @Elegantwoes
      @Elegantwoes 2 роки тому

      There’s a term for this and it’s called the power of friendship and it’s a trope at this point.

  • @youseineko
    @youseineko 5 років тому +10

    Here’s a cliché I hate: the underdog/powerless/normal main character inherits/is given the strongest power in the universe. They instantly go from the bottom of the pecking order to the top. It’s like overcompensating for their weakness or misfortune (or just being a regular person).
    Example: My Hero Academia. As much as I love that show, I wish Deku had stayed quirkless and learned to be a hero in his own way. He already had the know-how (from studying other heroes) and most importantly, the heart. But of course, it wouldn’t be a cool shounen anime if he couldn’t do flashy super moves, so...let’s give this “loser” the most amazing quirk ever in the first five episodes. Sigh.
    At least he’s had to train and learn to use it properly, so he’s not the world’s greatest hero yet.

  • @MixMasterLar
    @MixMasterLar 5 років тому +16

    A movie starts with a kid asking his parents for some sort of privilege in a dramatic way, but since the camera is so close to his face we all know his just talking to a fish bowl.
    (You can also substitute in a salaryman asking for a pay raise)

  • @xilverxoul6917
    @xilverxoul6917 5 років тому +5

    Regarding cliché 2 about characters immediately being able to master any new power thrust upon them; I really do hate that one because to me it is often just a cheap way to let the hero win without putting anything into the effort.
    It's one of the reasons I love My Hero Academia so much. The main protagonist gets this incredible new power but it's so strong that even after a massive body training program the power still breaks his bones we he goes to use it; he has to train to master it over time. Then when he starts to manifest new powers they also start to cause problems until he can master them

    • @youseineko
      @youseineko 5 років тому

      XilverXoul I was thinking the same thing! I absolutely agree!

  • @gillian2547
    @gillian2547 5 років тому +4

    One cliche that just came to mind is the protagonist finally gathering the courage to tell someone something really important and in that very moment the person wants to say something as well so they go first and say something concerning the really important thing which makes the protagonist change their mind and come up with a lie to not disappoint the other person

  • @punkgothgrlllll937
    @punkgothgrlllll937 5 років тому +10

    Well, here's a cliche I see a lot : The main character seen as intelligent but lacks common sense because they're the "lone wolf".

  • @OrdinariumWeb
    @OrdinariumWeb 5 років тому +7

    "You are you. You're good just the way you are!" -Socrates (probably)

  • @theberrby6836
    @theberrby6836 5 років тому +4

    14:27 That one, I got very irritated when that cliche happened in the finale of Gravity Falls. Though I believe it was because I was invested in the characters feelings, and felt the SEVERITY of the situation and threat of the villain!

  • @beescakefactory
    @beescakefactory 5 років тому +6

    Another cliche:
    (Usually in TV and movies) the main character gets a hallucination of a famous public figure or historical figure and it gives them advice. Many times this hallucination is started by looking at a photo or statue of that public figure

    • @theodorelehman
      @theodorelehman 5 років тому

      There were old educational short films that operated on this principle.
      Also hallucinations of talking animals, men dressed as bars of soap, etc.

  • @ArtbyGalen
    @ArtbyGalen 5 років тому +29

    Yay! This went up at just the right time! Was about to take a break, and now am gonna enjoy this video during my break!

  • @equesdeventusoccasus
    @equesdeventusoccasus 5 років тому +8

    The person who teaches a young mage or fighter to be good and honorable only to be revealed as the real bad guy. Often using the young warrior / mage to remove an old enemy before turning on the warrior / mage.

  • @corcon6976
    @corcon6976 4 роки тому +3

    I'm surprised no one mentioned one of the most vile cliches: _An ancient evil awakens._ And that happens usually because some evildoer goes on a journey to try to awaken it, or some fool accidentally unleashes it.

  • @Synful_RoX
    @Synful_RoX 5 років тому +5

    Every time, and I mean EVERY time, when someone is defusing a bomb, they will always have a decent amount of time left before it detonates, but then screw something up with it, causing the timer to speed up, or skip to the last minute or something.
    Then, with a ridiculous amount of luck, they successfully defuse the bomb with 0,01 seconds left.
    (Yes, I did see this on Gotham just yesterday)

  • @milanpaudel9624
    @milanpaudel9624 5 років тому +36

    3rd one
    Bad guy getting instantly forgiven is very much in Naruto and Dragon ball. And most Shonen crap.

    • @dnsoulx
      @dnsoulx 5 років тому +2

      oh big agree, and a lot of the times their character dynamic makes no sense and is just "haha bad evil man has revelation woah he's good guy now hahah"

    • @AnimeGirlYaoiChan
      @AnimeGirlYaoiChan 5 років тому +1

      There's actual sense in DBZ series because Saiyans are naturally born evil and ruthless. The reason why Goku isn't evil is because he had a head injury as a child and Vegeta is considered an "abnormal" because he is a prince so he would actually have affection for his partner since as a prince he would need a wife to reproduce to keep the royal blood line going but for others he would remain ruthless and it's shows

    • @milanpaudel9624
      @milanpaudel9624 5 років тому +5

      @@AnimeGirlYaoiChan Your logic is false.
      Goku 's dad Bardock is just an ordinary brave saiyan. But he is married and shows affection for his wife.
      Also, it's not just for Saiyan, character like Piccolo, Buu and others also falls in this category.
      But it's not like I loathe this cliché like falling in lewd position.
      As long as it makes sense, go for it.

    • @RB-nt6zx
      @RB-nt6zx 5 років тому

      I think it's actually a stronger victory if the villain is not killed but recruted. But it's very hard to get right and very easy to make it cheap.
      Also, there can only be forgiveness, when there was something evil. You can't forgive a good guy, cause he hasn't done anything wrong. But again, there has to be the right background for it.
      Naruto inherently believes in the good in people and tries to be friends with everybody. (Maybe a lot of shonen protagonists are, i don't watch that much anime).
      So there is at least some reason to him forgiving some villains. But I get that this character trait in itself can get annoying, because forgiveness seams to be so utopical.

    • @milanpaudel9624
      @milanpaudel9624 5 років тому

      @@RB-nt6zx Naruto abuses it the most.
      Like every main villain other than Danzo, Kaguya and Zetsu was forgiven instantly. Like All of them.
      Power of Talk no Jutsu.
      Itachi, guy who Slaughtered whole Uchiha clan.
      Sasuke who desired to destroy Hidden leaf village the most.
      Pain who actually destroyed the Hidden Leaf village.
      Madara and Obito who created the whole mess, were instantly forgiven.
      Yes there was redemption, and I don't loathe it, but it got repetitive.

  • @CherryStudios2
    @CherryStudios2 5 років тому +6

    If the writers want a girl character to be "strong and independent", they just make her bossy, mean, and an unreasonably amazing fighter who wins every battle. I've also noticed that in anime, a lot of girls are either pushy and aggressive, or ditsy and always gushing over some guy.

  • @melvin559
    @melvin559 5 років тому +14

    8 remembers me on Star Lord in Infinity War

  • @jurgengreiner1758
    @jurgengreiner1758 5 років тому +6

    I really enjoy how many different art stiles you are able to draw and teach your viewers. From ultra realistic to manga you are teaching it all ^^

  • @KloudDraw
    @KloudDraw 5 років тому +2

    My most hated cliche's is one of the main protagonist leaves and join the bad guys without giving a reason and hurt her/his friends, but later while he/she fighting the other protagonist explains that he/she do that to save the others, it's makes no sense at all. I saw tons of anime have this kind of cliche in variation. sorry for my bad english.

  • @zoeintjiezu5131
    @zoeintjiezu5131 5 років тому +7

    Regarding Aang becomming the "master" of a new element in a short time over others that have practiced it for years: I guess, to some degree, one could argue that Aang was an extremely good air bender and if one knows one element, some knowledge should be transferable when practicing to bend another element after figuring out the kinks, resulting in faster progress. Similar to artists and new mediums. However, I never actually took "master" of the element as being the very best in that element. I understood it more as having mastered it instead. A stage where Aang can say he is now fully able to bend the new element, but he still isnt the best. But perhaps Im wrong😅

  • @isaiahzee6414
    @isaiahzee6414 5 років тому +4

    The main character sacrifices themselves to save the world or their friends/family

  • @rafaechizen
    @rafaechizen 5 років тому +2

    Blushies are cliché but they are necessary :D love your drawing, it amazes me how you can make a simple chibi drawing look so pretty and makes me want to buy one of your books.

  • @GKOALA7
    @GKOALA7 5 років тому +4

    The main protagonist punches (assaults) a bulky antagonist to no avail showing off just how weak the protagonist is even though we know that s/he will defeat said bulky antagonist in the end somehow.

  • @Millicomics
    @Millicomics 5 років тому +11

    Thank you for these awesome videos! I'm always listening to your great advice when drawing! This is actually educational content that is motivating and fun !

  • @caseycook3574
    @caseycook3574 5 років тому +1

    One cliche that I personally find in just about everything is the character who exists purely for comedic relief. Some authors do it right by giving them proper depth and development, but all too often they seem to simply be there as a plot device rather than an actual believable person.
    Also, love these videos, Mark! Keep up the great work!

  • @ellebastonart
    @ellebastonart 5 років тому +7

    The main character's established love interest is revealed near the final climax to be the main villain all along

    • @digitalsketchbook4364
      @digitalsketchbook4364 4 роки тому +1

      Frozen maybe?
      I might have been oblivious while watching the movie but I really didnt see Hans being a villain till that part came up. Frozen could've did this cliche very well,but your comment reminded of this.

  • @shaunreyna9634
    @shaunreyna9634 5 років тому +2

    Just did this one myself unintentionally. After meeting someone new, the main character requests something of them. The stranger refuses, unwilling to compromise or even consider the idea. And then bandits attack, someone is endangered, or something happens that only the main character can fix. And so the mc does so, and the stranger says something along the lines of "You're not so bad. Go ahead and do whatever you wanted before." That level of convenient timing is at the same level as plot armor in my eyes.

  • @lollyberry007
    @lollyberry007 5 років тому +2

    When a character secretly (or not secretly) sends out a message asking for help earlier on before the final battle, and then later during the battle they are starting to lose, but when all hope seems lost, the backup arrives (usually with a witty one-liner) and they help turn the tide of the fight

  • @wowlalo
    @wowlalo 5 років тому +1

    Congratulations on all your books, Mark. We can tell you work really hard (maybe harder than you let us know).
    I really enjoy not just your drawing, but also tips on creating stories.

  • @bluehoof
    @bluehoof 5 років тому +1

    You have such a friendly and sincere voice, I love you! Keep up the good work!

  • @LetterheadStudios
    @LetterheadStudios 5 років тому +2

    The "Road Trip" cliche where the vehicle gets progressively more and more destroyed as the plot progresses, almost always becoming totaled near the end.

  • @sipoffrogjuice4689
    @sipoffrogjuice4689 5 років тому +2

    Great video as always mark!👌

  • @emilycrum3666
    @emilycrum3666 5 років тому +1

    I really like these videos! Here are some clichés I've noticed: when the 'lost heir' doesn't realize who they are for nearly the whole story... and then becomes an amazing ruler without any experience... when the royal kids are sent off to live like peasants which invariably results in them straightening up instead of becoming bitter... when the main girl character beats up the main guy because she needs to prove that she can (I mean, if you're that good, you shouldn't be proving anything, it's against the law)… when the student says: 'I'll never be as good as you' and the master always answers: 'no, you're better'

  • @PeppermintCereal
    @PeppermintCereal 5 років тому +1

    The "we're not so different" cliche has given me an idea

  • @jessiesweetstuff
    @jessiesweetstuff 5 років тому +3

    The cliché I noticed in horror type situations is someone with a group goes off on their own to investigate a mysterious shadow or sound only to meet their demise when they probably would have been safer staying with the group.

    • @finnie2711
      @finnie2711 5 років тому

      And most of the time they don't call the police even tho there's blood and signs of some kind of murder but the characters are like no we'll just investigate this.

    • @jessiesweetstuff
      @jessiesweetstuff 5 років тому

      @@finnie2711EXACTLY!!!

  • @LuckySketches
    @LuckySketches 4 роки тому

    Mark was the one who first taught me, through his videos, how do draw people when I was a teenager. Now I'm studying art in college and he's STILL adding blushies to everything.
    There's always some small thing to lend a sense of stability in the turbulence of life. And perhaps blushies are what we truly needed all along.

  • @psychomanatee3459
    @psychomanatee3459 5 років тому +3

    When he showed cliche 8:
    Me: *cough* starlord *cough*

  • @kaeltv
    @kaeltv 5 років тому +12

    This is really cool!! 🤓✌️

    • @Fbfb9916
      @Fbfb9916 5 років тому

      Hi! I'm a subscriber of yours and I love your art. Very creative

  • @derpse8475
    @derpse8475 5 років тому +14

    Woooo I've never been this early! Love you mark! :D

  • @nesterChubat
    @nesterChubat 5 років тому +1

    A storytelling cliche that i actually really love is one where, on a pirate ship, the main character ends up riling up/angering the crew, and as everyone is getting ready for a brawl, a sound rings out. A shout, or gunshot. And then all you hear is boots approaching, and the crowd slowly parts to reveal...The Captain.
    It's as cliche as cliche can go but i feel it's such a surefire way to show the character Means Business.

  • @SuselLee
    @SuselLee 5 років тому +3

    Are they clichés, I don't know??? I was commenting about this topic to friends that want to be fiction novelist. My comment center in the idea that everything depends on the age and sophistication of your audience. Let me compare two quotes to make my point. G.K. Chesterton said, "fairy tales do not tell children the dragons exist. Children already know that dragons exist. Fairy tales tell children the dragons can be killed." Stephen King said, "monsters are real, and ghost are real too. They live inside us, and sometimes, they win." This is my argument: Maybe for an adult the happily ever after story is a cliché but not to a child. Maybe for a young adult confronting a heartbreak is not a cliché but for a husband with teenage kids that is a cliché. G.K. Chesterton gives us a glimpse of a child view of the world. Stephen King a view to an adult's who still struggles with his inner ghost. In Ecclesiaste 1:9 (NIV) says "What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun. The question has to be asked not on the perspective of the author's wants and needs but on the perspective of the audience. Who is your audience? What are their struggles? What is your (author's) view on the problem? Even if the solution is well known your perspective (the author's) is unique. Therefore I say there is no such thing as a cliché if your experience is new to your audience.

  • @zele4476
    @zele4476 5 років тому +2

    I don't know if this is mentioned yet but:
    When two characters are in a relationship or are getting close and they're on a bus or walking and one almost falls down or almost gets hit by a bike or something (usually the girl) , and the other person (usually the guy) wraps them into their arms or pulls them out of the way and they get really close and intimate for like a second

  • @jeffthejournaler4894
    @jeffthejournaler4894 4 роки тому

    I want to get your mastering manga if i ever go out again if i go to hobby lobby i might get it because i love your advice on menga and I love your drawings! Be careful stay safe!😍🤗🤗

  • @16JPE
    @16JPE 5 років тому +2

    One of the villains being a sibling or related to the hero or one of the side characters.

  • @thatworkedoutnicely1004
    @thatworkedoutnicely1004 5 років тому +1

    Sensei: “class, we have a new student”

  • @tailsprower7906
    @tailsprower7906 5 років тому +1

    ReMARKable as always!
    Mark used my comment!
    😍😍😍😍 DON'T wake me up!

  • @DKAGAMINGART
    @DKAGAMINGART 5 років тому

    Amazing art& vid friend

  • @rachellynncreates2703
    @rachellynncreates2703 5 років тому

    So... on Tuesday I was convinced that it was Friday and was very upset that there wasn’t a new Crilley video out... I was very happy when I realized what day it was. 😁

  • @fadeingsunset4714
    @fadeingsunset4714 5 років тому +2

    When the main protagonist is fighting the antagonist alone and then the antagonist says something like
    Im your Mom/Dad!
    Im your brother/Sister!
    Im you love intrests relative!
    Ect. So then the main character can't kill them

  • @williamturner6192
    @williamturner6192 5 років тому +1

    Character arc of someone as late as Barry Alan learning to master their schedule to sit down to eat their toast!
    ... and for season 2 to eat oatmeal!

  • @jkseraphim4
    @jkseraphim4 5 років тому

    Please do a part three!

  • @sssesoj
    @sssesoj 5 років тому +1

    The biggest chliche that never fails, happens in almost every single anime at least once but usually more a lot more than that is when Main Character needs to go somewhere/needs info/needs to find something or someone but the only people that can provide help always require the MC to do something for them im return for whatever they are looking for, yet when someone else needs something it's always the MC that requires to do it for no reason and gaining absolutely nothing from it.

  • @librabys
    @librabys 5 років тому +2

    Just after ''we are not so different, you and I'' comes the sempiternal: ''imagine, our forces together, we could conquer the world'' xD - It is nice you bring the point that clichés can still work, i recently watched a video of tips that totally discredited clichés, and if i was to believe all they say, 3/4 of manga and anime people like would never make it. I think the point is, no promt or cliché is bad per say, but they have to be exploited in an interesting and original way. When someone says something is overdone, i like to take it as a challenge to imagine a new way for making it work :)

  • @DoctorZisIN
    @DoctorZisIN 5 років тому

    Thanks for choosing my comment! I agree, this cliché can be used well to maintain suspense. It was a staple of the TV show "House", a very successful medical drama.
    I remember the Cunninghams constantly being interrupted by the Fonz or Richie before kissing. That may be the earliest example I can remember (from youtube clips of course, I'm not THAT old).

  • @sarahy.1498
    @sarahy.1498 5 років тому

    I've been binge watching your channel this past week; thank you for sharing so much of your knowledge and art, Mr. Crilley! ❤🙂
    One of the cliché things that bothers me most is when the "hot guy" is a total creep/abusive/manipulating/whatnot, and no one thinks to get a restraining order on him or anything, they're just all cool with it because he's pretty or whatever. Can go the other way, too, if a girl is really nasty and her love interest just sucks it up for no good reasons instead of telling her and trying to work things out or something.

  • @kedandunn
    @kedandunn 5 років тому +1

    specific cliche that always gets on my nerves is when there's time travel and they explain it by bending a piece of paper and stabbing it with a pencil. Or when a second bonk on the head cured amnesia, because that's clearly how amnesia works

  • @n1ghtmar3w0lf3
    @n1ghtmar3w0lf3 5 років тому +2

    the villain is the mother/father to the protagonist " hint hint star wars"

  • @satlypepsi
    @satlypepsi 5 років тому

    Thank you mark