I would have a crush on Kaisa too! I also like how the Magic hidden rooms are defeated by persistence. Do you think that Safety Patrol Man was a bit too one note?
@@IllMatic97 Yeah, the helped produce or get the world into Cybersix. I still remember the change clothes scene. Also we had the uncensored or censored first season of Total Drama Island.
Lmao same, I was like so that means there are children missing every year in town and nobody ever talks about it. (Maybe if the children were eaten, their evidence of existence also vanished which is also terrifying)
So the vibe I got off the deerfox episode was that each deerfox has a guiding/companion light, but Twig's light, rather than being a metaphorical light in the weird astral plane, is literally just Hilda.
It goes off of emotions. Pretty much once twig made the choice to save Hilda the first time, the light representation became Hilda. Twig was never aware of that change until he realized just how much Twig missed Hilda, and this time made the concious choice to go back.
That does make sense to me Twig is litteraly turn her into it so that means they other balls are also humans or WERE so that means that she might have made a mistake by helping Twig in the first place.
I don't think it was creepy for the old man to follow himself through time, he was just nostalgic for an older, better times that he lost and couldn't return. After all, he was just a lonely old man.
@@doctorwhat779 Watching your life’s greatest mistake with yourself or selves and not acting upon it - simply being an observer - and wondering what could’ve been is something I feel to be not worthy of “creepy”. Unsettling at most, sometimes people do feel that once in a lifetime connection with that person they’ve only seen once. True love isn’t just a concept, after all. To some people, it can really happen.
They can afford so much violence and death because it's on a streaming platform, hence almost no normal tv censorship. Also the time travelling episode is by far my favorite. Specifically because of the moral at the end, when Tilda says that there's no need to live in the past and they should instead look forward. Also the scene where alternative Tilda and Peter are eaten by the Time Worm is heart breakingly beautiful.
Personally I couldn't get myself to enjoy it cause I was just confused how tf everything worked most of the time. Like what happened to the alternate timeline hilda after the Tildy and Peter got eaten? We saw her while our hilda was running in the street and since they swapped it back to the original timeline and she wasn't there anymore, does that mean she just got eaten off screen? Did she go have the time travel shenanigans herself? When did future hilda happen? Was that the intro? If so then does that mean that alternate hilda didn't die? Even if past present and future hilda weren't part of the timeline anymore if past hilda died wouldn't have present and future hilda disappeared? This is what happens whenever I watch a time travel episode, it just confuses me and makes me not enjoy it.
@@thomashsiai6250 eh, it's less than you think. And I dont think theyll actually do that. I think they might've been more upfront with it if they were to put it in that direction. I dont think that hilda will actually develop a relationship with anyone and if it does, itll probably end up alot like fridas situation, which I still think it's dumb(not in story wise, it was amazing) but she was being a bitch for no reason, and I feel the same flogging to happen to hilda if she does develop a love interest
Just fill out the paperwork to see them and then open a forum to create a committee to discuss the frequent onion chopping and Sign off on the paperwork to change when the onion chopping happens
One big nitpick I do have is that "We saw ourselves die twice!" scene. Hilda should have added on that, like a simple "Eh, I almost die all the time." as a nice, kinda dark joke to add on what Alfur said.
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I just assumed he was after about a minute of screen-time. For me, that moment when he seems to recognize Johanna and then avoids being seen by her confirmed it.
Theres a lot of rape in history. Christopher Columbus raped, the Mongols raped, Vikings, definitely during the Medieval times, and I think even during WWII
@@galaxywiz2995 yeah, something you're not told about in school unless you go to college for a history major or are told about it on the internet. A definite Yikes forever
@@galaxywiz2995 Vikings were sailors, traders, warriors, mercenaries, farmers and raiders. Raiding, throughout most of history, means "pillage, rape, kill, enslave, sell the spoils, repeat".
I got weirded out by david having a crush on the librarian(Kasia) I mean, it is normal to have crushes but they'll have to handle it like unrequited love Wich I don't know if it's possible When adventure time did that, they got PB into his age, look and mentally, so yeah
Plus like?? A ginger wolf isn’t going *that* far off color from a red wolf?? It’s unnatural (and probably impossible) but it isn’t super weird like making it green
@@rougeredsun5845 I also shipped AlfurXBartel, glad others do too. Idk why I think it was bc they were total opposites and their friendship grew in season 2 and it could be read as something more...
Ah yes, I just love: -Hendrik but useless -Sexy Goth librarian -Ewan McGregor -BEARD DADDY -Social anxiety -Evil Yakko And last but not least -The best character in the show.
I personlly waited for something bigger than her being a Troll cause I only saw Trolls as just normal dangerouse creatures that aren't important to the story
@Sosnir De Jejejo The English dub that 4kids made censored a lot like death example being the character Molly from season 3. In the original version she continued fighting the Metarex and died. Shadow later made a grave in her honor but in the English dub it is implied that Molly escaped since Shadow hopes that shell be okay alone in space. Her memorial was edited out but the shadow of it was still their as a mistake. And in the last episode of the series, the scene of Shadow placing a pink rose next to Molly's grave was cut as well.
Ginger wolves are actually a thing in real life, they're called red wolves, red wolves have long legs and gallop like dear. They also look like fox's on stilts.
@@AnaJulia-jc7fn YES at the moment I saw his hair I was freaking out because it's definitely blue! I think it might be his natural hair though, since we don't know how people with natural blue hair would age. Besides, he basically runs from Johanna so yeah i think there's something there
Even though she was pretty mean about it Hilda had a point, the whole of moving to Trollberg was so that Johanna could raise Hilda in a "safer" environment. Break her out of her shell and make some friends her own age yet Johanna isn't practicing what she's preaching. While it's true Johanna was right about Hilda's own faults I'm not ignoring her's either.
To be fair, they were in danger of losing their home already because of attacks by the little men who file paperwork. While in an area where trolls literally walked up to Hilda's doorstep. I can see how Johanna could be concerned. At least in Trolberg, the danger isn't *constantly* able to follow them home.
I like to think Johanna probably had a rough time making friends in her childhood so thats why she wants Hilda to break out her shell before its too late and make friends of her own
Well she had blueprints for the machines made to activate the bells, and it seems strange that she’d need those if she is just designing the bells, but I guess that could be the case
Am I the only one who was annoyed when Hilda wanted to teleport to Frida’s house in the last episode. Sending over the dust with a message would’ve been easier and less irritating to Tontu.
Yeah, but it seems pretty clear that it isn’t just about her giving Frida dust. She wants to use Nowhere space to go hang out with her friend, getting her dust is just the pretense.
First season: wholesome and warm. The crew: We got ‘em boys! Now! Second season: Scary and traumatizing. Fans: We were lead in with cute and adorable trap!
@@verdeamarillo4979 beacause cutting the head of one of the mcs friends who IS A CHILD is totally kid friendly. They also killed of hilda soooo explain how all of that is tv-y7
Dissappointed that Twig didn't follow his nature, being a representation of Hilda's wildside. Instead being a repesentation of Hilda and her stay with friends mentality
I figured when watching the episode that either (1) Twig would come back by the end of the episode, or (2) he'd be gone until the season finale, and I honestly liked that I couldn't tell which it was going to be.
I like how the magic language is either Icelandic or Norwegian. A bit hard for me to tell. Possibly the former, since l should be able to have understood more of it if it was Norwegian. Although the levitation spell is crystal clear to me: "Flying up in the air!"
Nah, I'd say it's worth waiting that bit longer for a lovely show you can enjoy in the knowledge that they didn't overwork the animators to make it, especially during a pandemic. If you want to see the plotline resolved sooner, read the comics!
@@whatok3273 oh by the time we get to season 6 and 7 Bella Ramsey’s gonna be in her 50’s and this show will have beaten Steven Universe for longest hiatuses
I wish they had committed to Twig going away instead of reversing it at the last second. Not enough kids’ shows have storylines which address coping with loss.
I give them props for almost making us think he wasn’t going to return, that did make me cry. Though it would be interesting to think what if Twig stayed with his parents? Would he return later in the next season or two *or* never again?
Anyone catch the blue in the hair of the guard from the bell towers. Also he eats her favorite sandwich and he doesnt go anywhere near Hilda's mom. They have the same interests and natural know how about nature. I'm putting money down right now that the Guard is Hilda's dad, the parents probably divorced back in the day and Joanna moved away.
Also, for anyone who is confused about the ending. Trolls are very often associated with the stories and creatures known as “Changlings”, in which Trolls swap their Changling children with those of human infants. It’s a bit of a spin, and these trolls are pretty different, so we’ll see how it develops.
you got extra for whatever is in that mug? And I can't stand that blowhard cop. Also alfur having that meet cute with the record keeper was really cute and I will fight you on that Edit: The deerfox episode is the better frozen 2
Now that I think about it, you're totally right about the deerfox ep. A Netflix show has more emotion and drama between a pet that cannot speak and a human child than a Disney movie with two humans. Why am I not surprised
well, i will say that the deerfox episode was aboslutely phenomenal. Definitely the better frozen 2. Still, I really enjoyed f2 a lot when it came out and still think it's severely underrated.
What theories? Troll mother sensed oncoming turmoil, fearing for the safety of her son she made the heart breaking decision to swap her child for Hilda, believing her son would be safe from the coming war there, this either means she believes the humans will win or that the trolls would recognize him if they won so she's just hedging her bets. I don't think she means for any harm to come to Hilda though, I think she intends to protect Hilda as if she were her own, but believes Hilda will be capable enough to survive on her own, unlike her so. That said, al Hilda's mom has to do is attempt boil water in an eggshell and the changling should just run off.
@@madestmadhatter wait so your saying Trolls can just do that? Like for example the 2 headed one could just swap places with a human and just kill everyone in Trolberg?
@@randomdude1890 that's unclear, it's possible certain requirements need to be fulfilled, for instance they must first know who they're going to replace and craft an effigy of them, then they must swap it's head with one that represents the troll, additionally it may be that they need to consume a special drink first. Then there are the less clear things, for instance it's possible that the hair on Hilda's doll was actually her hair, this is a common necessity for sympathetic magic, they may also have needed to sleep in the caves first, then there's a possibility that not all trolls can do magic, or that it only works on children/when done for another. Oh and on a side note I think Old Two Head is dead.
the goat that got stolen in episode 1 is probably the packing goat the troll mother used. and the troll mother is probably the same trol from ep 1, s1.
The fact that you were fully aware of the Alfur shipping and made so many references to it completely killed me -if you told me two years ago that tiny invisible elf Alfur was going to be the most shipped character of Hilda I really wouldn't have believed you-
The funniest part is yet to come as known measures for changelings are either, cooking an entire meal in eggshells, pulling a Geralt of Rivia and putting the child into an oven, or straight up unadulterated good ol' child abuse. This is as much a joke that in Norse mythology bad poetry came from Odin's piss after he drank a mead made of the blood of a guy made of spit.
I really love the heart that went into The Deerfox episode. As someone who has lost a beloved pet, I cried so hard I gave myself a headache. The visuals and the music were so amazing too! That just might be my favorite episode
Knowing a little Norse mythology, I thought it was funny when it was revealed that the swamp creature's name was Sigurd and the amulet was his. For context, Sigurd is a Norse "hero" who slayed a dragon, then cheated on his wife by sleeping with his brother's wife while disguised as his brother (I think that's what happened). There's a bit more to it, but that's the short version.
The time travel episode really fucked with me, but for different reasons. On Hilda's second time through (as I'll call Hilda 2, and the Hilda we follow throughout the scene), we see Hilda 1 die pretty quickly and seemingly painlessly. "Well shit, that's pretty traumatic, but such is the life on an adventurer." Hilda 3 (future Hilda, and perhaps quite a ways into the future actually) tries to save Hilda 2, but then herself dies. For multiple reasons that rocks my boat particularly. The death of Hilda 1 felt like any other character's death, even though it was literally the Hilda 2 from before. But Hilda 3's death feels like we just lost the MC entirely, and it feels like that was going to exactly be our Hilda 2 (which isn't not unwrong). Hilda 3 had an entirely different story that we never explored, and never got to see, until the very end. Yet it feels conclusive anyways. Like imagine if Tony Stark died half way through Iron Man, or Rango is shot right at his finale, and then a double of him steps out from saloon. We actually get a bit of development with Hilda 3 in her short time on screen, and of course literally still being the MC, we connect to her instantly. Then she dies. *What the fuck happened between the first timeline of Hilda 2 (before Hilda 3 interrupted, we never saw this on screen but it's implied because of Hilda 3's existence) and when we see Hilda 2 in OUR timeline on the show, on-screen?* Did she meet with the magic lady, and lay everything out to our Hilda 2....now turning Hilda 3 (for us)? Did she KNOW she HAD to die, by necessity? To save her previous version? Also, WHY did she feel the need to go back and and save her own PREVIOUS self? If she stayed and let thing play out after she altered time, she (from her perspective) would be just fine while she unwittingly set the time worm on her previous timeline versions, but she'd be untouched. But *something* fucked up, something we don't know about, but it was enough to make Hilda 3 decide to go back and fucking KILL herself just to ensure at least one specific timeline of herself existed, other than the one she just came back from. THIS is what we see on-screen. There's so much that could've happened, and something BIG happened (or DID happen to Hilda 3) that change was necessary enough to die for....or she just randomly had a moral reckoning, but I doubt that alone would be enough to kill herself over. Someone could honestly make a mini-story on the POV of Hilda 3, and the steps and events that lead her to go back. Also, Hilda 3 clearly had other plans on how to fix the timelines (in their own way, or at least ge things back on a track), as she was ignoring the magazine. So...what was Hilda 3's plan there? And also, she dies horribly? Hilda 3 is on a mission to save Hilda 2, and she never even sees it to the end herself. That's a punch to the feels. As if watching Hilda 1, the version of Hilda we just followed for the first time through those events not FIVE minutes earlier just get swallowed by a worm wasn't unsettling already. And then AFTER Hilda 3 gets swallowed by the worm, we can clearly hear her scream from inside the thing's mouth. *She's fucking still alive!* Do these swallowed alternate timeline versions of people not just vanish? Fade away? Or pulled apart by the atom? Or are they consciously sent into a void of non-existence while they're still alive, in their own way? That is some uncomfortable shit to think about, especially when happening to the MC. Watching Hilda 3 die felt just or more uncomfortable that Hilda just straight up dying in the middle of the show, no take-backsies, no warning, and no time travel even. Just dying. It's just....."what the fuck happened?" And another unsettling thing is that with all the timelines, it feels like absolutely *completely* dumb luck that our cameras and the show followed _juuuuust_ the right timeline for everything to come out okay. Our timeline barely avoided the track to death, we could've followed Hilda 1 on her second timeline (and Hilda is eaten shortly after going back in time, end of story) or we could've followed Hilda 3 (which is who the FUCK knows what happened, but it means Hilda 1 and 2 went through their course of events without Hilda 3 coming back and messing with shit). *In short, future Hilda's death is fucking heart wrenching, like watching the main MAIN **_MAIN_** character die* And I probably won't get over it for some time. You fucked up Hilda, all versions of you, Hilda. Holy shit.
I also noticed that Hilda 3 had the same oufit as Hilda in the last episode of season 2, I was scared the whole episode that that was the episode when she would go back into time, adding to the fact that when it was ending a rock structure giant worm that looked like the one we saw in the time travel episode and that the show really seems to sums everything up, as you said if it was another time line she would have disappeared but she didn’t, so that must have a meaning, adding as foreshadowing, but at least this confirms hilda will come back to her usual self and not being a troll, but there is the plot hole that the magazines were destroyed, is there another way to go back in time ?
what are your thoughts about Twigs choosing Hilda over his biological family (and world?) and what did you think about Hilda and her mother relationship during and after they got stuck in the troll cavern? (idk if thats the name)
It's one of those you blink you miss it moments. Twig was having a dream about a ball of light he couldn't chase > sees similar lights in the sky from his dream > goes away with his parents cause he thought maybe that what his dream meant > what do you know actual ball of light!.........IMMA CHASE IT! > ball of light manifests in the shape of hilda before going poof > dog is like "ah Sh#%@ I made a mistake" > and goes back to Hilda.
I just think it was healtier for them those experiences caused them to get closer and I am sus on Twig I think he's not the little cute thing we think he is
Oh u got to do the season finale of Hilda it’s already out and boy was it an amazing season finale reveal on why Hilda has blue hair and about her backstory and her mom’s and what Hilda is and why she’s able to deal with magic and we meet her dad it’s so amazing 😊
I wish to register an objection! Worthless Safety Patrol guy didn't install the underwater bell. That is one of the original older bells that his famous ancestor had installed during the original founding of the city. Also it may or may not be magic, it's unclear.
We need this to become way bigger than it is. It's ten times the quality of stuff that is 10 times bigger and more famous. That's not right. And it matters; so change it.
Drinking tea and watching the show on a rainy day greatly enhances the experience. Peppermint tea is ideal, with english black or green tea also being accepable. Add honey to it for the finals
15:27 I'm like 78% sure Johanna is like, a graphic designer? So I think she only designed the posters for the bell system unveiling. Not the cause of the problem, just a participant.
Doom magnet is the best description I've ever heard for Hilda. She's spent multiples of nine lives by this point, and you could probably do a 'All the Times Hilda Nearly Dies' montage.
9:12 My favorite thing about this whole episode: the boy who opens the pit (the one with the single string guitar) gets eaten AND WE DO NOT SEE HIM AGAIN. I laughed for about a minute when I found that out.
Ask me questions for my REAL TALK!
What do you think of the show compared to its source material?
Do you think Hilda and Johanna's dynamic is more compelling this season, or they keep making the same?
Have you seen the Rumor that the Bellkeeper is Hilda's dad and what do you think about it.
I would have a crush on Kaisa too! I also like how the Magic hidden rooms are defeated by persistence. Do you think that Safety Patrol Man was a bit too one note?
This isn't related to the show, but who drew the copyright bunnies. Also did u like season 1 or season 2 better.
I love how they were able to kill so much characters and keep the show as a kid-friendly show, just like old disney
Canadians aren’t cowards. They like pushing boundaries.
@@bengi8907 man, talk about switching roles
@@IllMatic97 Yeah, the helped produce or get the world into Cybersix. I still remember the change clothes scene.
Also we had the uncensored or censored first season of Total Drama Island.
But since they couldn’t show blood all the weapons were some form of lightsaber
Two of the main characters died twice 😶
Oh hey, I just realized that the goat that was stolen at the beginning of the season was the one that was carrying all those bags at the end.
Holly macaroni, you are right! I didn't see that!
I knew the goat had to be a reference, but I didn't know to what until I saw the beginning of this video AFTER having just watched the finale.
HOLY SHI-
I did think about that when I saw the goat but I was like “Eh probably a coincidence.”
Oh yeah!!
Hilda is one of the most imaginative and wholesome animated shows I ever saw.
“Wholesome”
“Kids show”
“No blood”
@@weepingwalnut dead
whole some with about 3 corpses on screen at once?
It was based on the comics and it feels nice when they read it and it goes into this animation:D
While also one of the darkest when you record death count
When you realise that 13+ children dies every year according to the yule lads episode
*died every year
Hilda put a stop to that, the serial killers will now go on to live a wholesome life of stealing produce.
@@madestmadhatter So they’ve gone from child killers to food thieves?
Eh better than killing kids.
shhhh its fine lmao
never thought like that
Lmao same, I was like so that means there are children missing every year in town and nobody ever talks about it. (Maybe if the children were eaten, their evidence of existence also vanished which is also terrifying)
So the vibe I got off the deerfox episode was that each deerfox has a guiding/companion light, but Twig's light, rather than being a metaphorical light in the weird astral plane, is literally just Hilda.
It goes off of emotions. Pretty much once twig made the choice to save Hilda the first time, the light representation became Hilda. Twig was never aware of that change until he realized just how much Twig missed Hilda, and this time made the concious choice to go back.
That does make sense to me Twig is litteraly turn her into it so that means they other balls are also humans or WERE so that means that she might have made a mistake by helping Twig in the first place.
So was the big deerfox he was headed towards his mom?
Quarantine Alex Hirsch has spoken. Go watch Hilda!
Okay that’s a new one.🤣
@@SarcasticChorus Nice beard by the way!
i just realized it came out lol. the second season that is
@@dionysus-sama6338 good old food
@@snakeman5250 What's wrong about other people liking what you don't like? I never understood that mindset.
It’s funny how Frida is the only one of the three of them that didn’t die twice (or at all)
She'll probably die three times next season to make up for it.
@@wendyheatherwood LMAO THE DEATH TRIO 💀
Give her time next season she’ll die a couple times herself to make it even.
@@wendyheatherwood as TFS Chaotzu said: give it time you’re hanging with the right crowd.
She broke a leg so thats like half a point. So she'll probably die around 2 or 3 and a half times
Gonna be honest, I almost cried on the twig episode. I love him-
Me too. She is his family 😭😭😭😭😭 why Hilda? Why do you do this to me
I _did_ cry. Multiple times. Twig is my favorite character
I did cried watching it.....
Ikr🥺🥺
I cried
I don't think it was creepy for the old man to follow himself through time, he was just nostalgic for an older, better times that he lost and couldn't return. After all, he was just a lonely old man.
Well I mean this is a sarcastic review so...
Yeah, to me it's no different than watching old home videos from "the good old days". At least, that's how the old man was treating it.
actually yeah it is really creepy
@@doctorwhat779 Watching your life’s greatest mistake with yourself or selves and not acting upon it - simply being an observer - and wondering what could’ve been is something I feel to be not worthy of “creepy”. Unsettling at most, sometimes people do feel that once in a lifetime connection with that person they’ve only seen once. True love isn’t just a concept, after all. To some people, it can really happen.
@@Sunny-uz8cw I think it is still too creepy. You danced a girl once and years and years later you obsessed with that night. This is creepy as hell
They can afford so much violence and death because it's on a streaming platform, hence almost no normal tv censorship. Also the time travelling episode is by far my favorite. Specifically because of the moral at the end, when Tilda says that there's no need to live in the past and they should instead look forward. Also the scene where alternative Tilda and Peter are eaten by the Time Worm is heart breakingly beautiful.
Tilda? IThe Great Raven!
Personally I couldn't get myself to enjoy it cause I was just confused how tf everything worked most of the time.
Like what happened to the alternate timeline hilda after the Tildy and Peter got eaten? We saw her while our hilda was running in the street and since they swapped it back to the original timeline and she wasn't there anymore, does that mean she just got eaten off screen? Did she go have the time travel shenanigans herself? When did future hilda happen? Was that the intro? If so then does that mean that alternate hilda didn't die? Even if past present and future hilda weren't part of the timeline anymore if past hilda died wouldn't have present and future hilda disappeared?
This is what happens whenever I watch a time travel episode, it just confuses me and makes me not enjoy it.
@@thomashsiai6250 Wow, perfect that's exactly why I like it.
@@thomashsiai6250 eh, it's less than you think. And I dont think theyll actually do that. I think they might've been more upfront with it if they were to put it in that direction. I dont think that hilda will actually develop a relationship with anyone and if it does, itll probably end up alot like fridas situation, which I still think it's dumb(not in story wise, it was amazing) but she was being a bitch for no reason, and I feel the same flogging to happen to hilda if she does develop a love interest
@@thomashsiai6250 irony of what exactly?
I hate how invisible tiny men are always chopping onions when I’m watching this season..
Also I like to call the time worm the “bowling ball monster”
Just fill out the paperwork to see them and then open a forum to create a committee to discuss the frequent onion chopping and Sign off on the paperwork to change when the onion chopping happens
@@samsmith4242 lol
I like Paradox. Paradox The Time Worm.
I’m totally not gonna steal that name for the Time Worm.
Are we not gonna talk about how big timeworm was pogging
The presence of the Yule Lads strongly indicates that Hilda lives in Iceland.
I’ve just assumed Scandinavia-esq
I always thought Hilda lived in the britian-ireland region,but recent episodes have me thinking
Yeah all the myths in the show are all based around Icelandic myths besides the Woodman and floaty things.
@@lostnetwork1780 Germanic in general actually
Most creatures in the show are vaguely Scandinavian, so the Yule lad episode kinda threw me off, as well as the British accents
I honestly identify with David way too much.
Up to and including having a crush on the hot goth librarian.
same I kin him lol
Yeah I relate to the little guy alright. He’s like New generation Chuckie Finster to me.
Same here.
@@johnnygyro2295 unlimited power
You’re right. There was a surprising amount of death and destruction in this season.
One big nitpick I do have is that "We saw ourselves die twice!" scene. Hilda should have added on that, like a simple "Eh, I almost die all the time." as a nice, kinda dark joke to add on what Alfur said.
eh
There's a difference between laughing at death and being adventurous. I mean, she's not Arnold Rimmer.
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so the old couple didn't end up together
Does anyone else think that the Bell Keeper guy is Hilda's dad? He even has a blue hair streak.
Maybe not her dad, but I want him as future step dad
@@jodk2824 I'd love to see that as a plot twist holy shit
I want to know about his dad or just some hints
I just assumed he was after about a minute of screen-time. For me, that moment when he seems to recognize Johanna and then avoids being seen by her confirmed it.
@@kristianstrm2375 Just rewatched the scene and you're absolutely right, I didn't notice that at first!
"There like normal Vikings...without the rape." WITHOUT THE HUH- 😀
Theres a lot of rape in history. Christopher Columbus raped, the Mongols raped, Vikings, definitely during the Medieval times, and I think even during WWII
@@pineapplesauce2718 Yikes Forever 😬
@@galaxywiz2995 yeah, something you're not told about in school unless you go to college for a history major or are told about it on the internet. A definite Yikes forever
@@galaxywiz2995 Vikings were sailors, traders, warriors, mercenaries, farmers and raiders. Raiding, throughout most of history, means "pillage, rape, kill, enslave, sell the spoils, repeat".
@@pineapplesauce2718 yea there was a whole Japanese thing that happened.
I think Hilda must have recently turned 13 because she is definitely turning into a teenager this season.
@Sosnir De Jejejo FBI agents: write that down write that down!
@Sosnir De Jejejo Let him go, we'll never catch him. Not in these shoes.
What makes you say that? I'd give her 11 at best
I got weirded out by david having a crush on the librarian(Kasia)
I mean, it is normal to have crushes but they'll have to handle it like unrequited love
Wich I don't know if it's possible
When adventure time did that, they got PB into his age, look and mentally, so yeah
Luke Pearson (creator of Hilda's graphic novels and animated series) has confirmed that Hilda has 11 years
Sarcastic Chorus: Is confused on how wolves can be orange
Every animal that exists in Hilda: that's cute
Yeah I'm more focused on the deer fox howling, something no other fox and only one other deer does.
Don't mooses howl or smth ?
Plus like?? A ginger wolf isn’t going *that* far off color from a red wolf?? It’s unnatural (and probably impossible) but it isn’t super weird like making it green
hey don,t forget the Wolff. They are flying spheres which are the purest things since Kirby
I mean woff
Did- did you just call bartel "alfur's beard daddy"??? I-- I can't fucking unthink that now
Especially how the word daddy now work AHHHH I ship them alfur and bartel BUT NOT LIKE DAT
@@rougeredsun5845
I also shipped AlfurXBartel, glad others do too. Idk why I think it was bc they were total opposites and their friendship grew in season 2 and it could be read as something more...
I yes I mean you can’t unhear it
We ship Bartelfur.
You guys ship the characters?
hilda's mom is legit one of the best characters. Excellent example of how a character can be an antagonist without being "bad" or even wrong
Hilda HAS to be a cat
She dies like every episode, and nobody notices
Well, she is a witch's familiar now, so...
She's troll now
@@tatarchan5212 can't wait for the next season!
Kenny
@@tatarchan5212 or a mice?
Ah yes, I just love:
-Hendrik but useless
-Sexy Goth librarian
-Ewan McGregor
-BEARD DADDY
-Social anxiety
-Evil Yakko
And last but not least
-The best character in the show.
"These aren't my hands, this isn't my face" is now by far the creepiest line I have ever heard from a kids' show.
That has scared me more than any other cartoon in a while.
Jesus that sounds like the quote they put in front of horror movie titles
I personlly waited for something bigger than her being a Troll cause I only saw Trolls as just normal dangerouse creatures that aren't important to the story
Woodman looks great in that sailor hat
💯
Sonic X: makes it clear that no one was hurt
Hilda: kills the characters on screen
@Sosnir De Jejejo The English dub that 4kids made censored a lot like death example being the character Molly from season 3.
In the original version she continued fighting the Metarex and died. Shadow later made a grave in her honor but in the English dub it is implied that Molly escaped since Shadow hopes that shell be okay alone in space.
Her memorial was edited out but the shadow of it was still their as a mistake. And in the last episode of the series, the scene of Shadow placing a pink rose next to Molly's grave was cut as well.
That’s why Hilda is a good show
*beheading*
@Sosnir De Jejejo Have you seen Sonic SatAM? Or the Archie comics?
15:52 I love how he almost dies the same way his skeleton counterpart does in Coco
Where should he put that bell?
HE PUT IT ON HIS HEAD!!
@Jack Sayers yup
*MeEeEEEEeEEeEEEeEEEeEEE* ua-cam.com/video/ttIJfII5SFc/v-deo.htmlsi=YMFwfUeemyqSs7ay
Ginger wolves are actually a thing in real life, they're called red wolves, red wolves have long legs and gallop like dear. They also look like fox's on stilts.
Spooky…
The bell keeper is Hilda's dad and no one can change my mind. He just is.
The bell keeper was amazing I hope we get more of him
@@korrafey1044 yes, indeed!
Yeeeeees! Also, if you notice he has a blue lock on his hair, so maybe he painted the rest of it dark or something 👀
@@AnaJulia-jc7fn i would love him to be the father, they do share some character traits as well
@@AnaJulia-jc7fn YES at the moment I saw his hair I was freaking out because it's definitely blue! I think it might be his natural hair though, since we don't know how people with natural blue hair would age. Besides, he basically runs from Johanna so yeah i think there's something there
Even though she was pretty mean about it Hilda had a point, the whole of moving to Trollberg was so that Johanna could raise Hilda in a "safer" environment. Break her out of her shell and make some friends her own age yet Johanna isn't practicing what she's preaching. While it's true Johanna was right about Hilda's own faults I'm not ignoring her's either.
To be fair, they were in danger of losing their home already because of attacks by the little men who file paperwork. While in an area where trolls literally walked up to Hilda's doorstep. I can see how Johanna could be concerned. At least in Trolberg, the danger isn't *constantly* able to follow them home.
I like to think Johanna probably had a rough time making friends in her childhood so thats why she wants Hilda to break out her shell before its too late and make friends of her own
My thought through literally this ENTIRE season was, "everyone's going to need therapy."
i cried about Twig shit and not about anything else
I was warned without spoilers and still cried
manly tears were shed that episode..
I hid some eye moistness during that episode. Really thought Twig was going to be committed there
Same
I didn't tho
"They killed a kid twice. I love this. I love this so much" -Chorus
Johanna didn't design the bells, only the posters for their inaugural event.
And let me tell you, I BAWLED at episodes 8 and 9
You know, I'm okay with him still being delusional, because at least his assistant is just like "yeah, I'm done with this nonsense"
I'm pretty sure Hilda's mother didn't design the bells, she's a graphic designer so she probably did the promotional art for the event
Well she had blueprints for the machines made to activate the bells, and it seems strange that she’d need those if she is just designing the bells, but I guess that could be the case
All that death and it still managed to be the most wholesome show around. How do they do it?
By dancing around the need for blood
I was disappointed Ahlberg didn't get Ernesto-De-La-Cruz'd
We need him to have a mutually fetal battle against Trundle the evil mountain king and both died in his attempt to save the city.
Am I the only one who was annoyed when Hilda wanted to teleport to Frida’s house in the last episode. Sending over the dust with a message would’ve been easier and less irritating to Tontu.
Yeah, but it seems pretty clear that it isn’t just about her giving Frida dust. She wants to use Nowhere space to go hang out with her friend, getting her dust is just the pretense.
This show easily stands as one of the greats of Netflix. Perhaps even all of recent animation 😊
Yes
Season 1- awwww, cute and cool
Season 2- WELL THAT TOOK A TURN
This show is British gravity falls
Yes
And part Icelandic
My goodness hilda season 2 was so effing dark.
First season: wholesome and warm.
The crew: We got ‘em boys! Now!
Second season: Scary and traumatizing.
Fans: We were lead in with cute and adorable trap!
Second season is some serious nightmare fuel. Almost some PG Witcher level nightmare fuel (to me anyways)
But I loved every second of it!
Haha jokes on you season 3 is gonna be way darker
@@IAmCrystalPalm Jokes on you, i'm into that shit.
@@IAmCrystalPalm oh gosh what have I gotten myself into with this show?
"They put that on tv?"
Well it's on Netflix so it's all good. 👍
gotta love loopholes lol
Hey JoJo fan I saw you on the gamer monkey's video
Yeah but it rated tv-y7 which is strange but oh well
@@fembt9137 why?
@@verdeamarillo4979 beacause cutting the head of one of the mcs friends who IS A CHILD is totally kid friendly. They also killed of hilda soooo explain how all of that is tv-y7
Dissappointed that Twig didn't follow his nature, being a representation of Hilda's wildside. Instead being a repesentation of Hilda and her stay with friends mentality
I figured when watching the episode that either (1) Twig would come back by the end of the episode, or (2) he'd be gone until the season finale, and I honestly liked that I couldn't tell which it was going to be.
Yeah and thst would made the show darker I am dissapointed
20:31-20:38 Alfur's line always cracks me up.
Season 1: Is warm and light hearted
Season 2: Death
I like how the magic language is either Icelandic or Norwegian. A bit hard for me to tell. Possibly the former, since l should be able to have understood more of it if it was Norwegian. Although the levitation spell is crystal clear to me: "Flying up in the air!"
Definitely Icelandic or old norse. (Am Norwegian, have Icelandic family).
@@kristianstrm2375 Tak! Thought l had something. From the grounding spell, all l understood was ground, and the door spell l got nothing out of.
I think some of it is Latin, but I might be wrong
And Google even translates it too so its a real language
They better not take another three years to make season 3
Nah, I'd say it's worth waiting that bit longer for a lovely show you can enjoy in the knowledge that they didn't overwork the animators to make it, especially during a pandemic. If you want to see the plotline resolved sooner, read the comics!
We're getting a movie instead since the show will be caught up to the graphic novel once we see what happens after Hilda got turned into a troll.
Season 3 will take 3 years, season 4 will take 4 years
@@whatok3273 oh by the time we get to season 6 and 7 Bella Ramsey’s gonna be in her 50’s and this show will have beaten Steven Universe for longest hiatuses
@@morinomajou You're sure season 3 will be in 2023
I wish they had committed to Twig going away instead of reversing it at the last second.
Not enough kids’ shows have storylines which address coping with loss.
To be fair I think Twig is going to play a big part in returning Hilda, though they could've worked that in later.
At the same time, with everything else that happens, we need the cute.
I give them props for almost making us think he wasn’t going to return, that did make me cry. Though it would be interesting to think what if Twig stayed with his parents? Would he return later in the next season or two *or* never again?
@@madestmadhatter they might pull out a twist like twig being one of the main villains
@@Rosa-he6xb Most likely he'd return during the special to help Hilda, if twig chose to stay.
Anyone catch the blue in the hair of the guard from the bell towers. Also he eats her favorite sandwich and he doesnt go anywhere near Hilda's mom. They have the same interests and natural know how about nature. I'm putting money down right now that the Guard is Hilda's dad, the parents probably divorced back in the day and Joanna moved away.
But Hilda's ancestors lived in the house for years, so the guard had to move.
@@randomdude1890 Her mom was raised in the city, the cabin belonged to the grandfather.
@@iancrisp9027 ohhhhh
@@randomdude1890 so the father has probaly lived his childhood there
Also, for anyone who is confused about the ending. Trolls are very often associated with the stories and creatures known as “Changlings”, in which Trolls swap their Changling children with those of human infants.
It’s a bit of a spin, and these trolls are pretty different, so we’ll see how it develops.
It’s liked they realized with the second season that they would be on Netflix and had less restrictions
Frida is what Connie could have been if she were the chosen one
I lost it when I saw the witches because they ARE the Diamonds
That makes the grandma the pink one so that makes her more suspiciouse
since when are ginger wolves a thing
red wolves: are we a joke to you?
Video: shows kid about to get chopped in half
Ad: allow me to introduce myself
This season surprised me so much with how much murder was in it. Like dang I thought this was a kid’s show
It is :)
@@wolfkitty42 there's sworing in it
I didn't expect to come out of this shipping Alfur and Bartell, but ok.
I kinda see them as brothers
Isn't Bartell older than Alfur? Like, a lot? At least it looks like, so I think it's kinda wrong. Please someone correct me if that's not the case.
@@alcm4748 please dont ruin my favorite ship with age
I’m gonna be a bit mad if Alfur gets with whatsherfacemisswrittingstuffalfurfangirl
@@wolfkitty42 same
I like how you called Bartell the "Beard Daddy" LMAO
That’s now the only thing I call him, mostly because I can’t remember his real name
@@averyscott9467 Same. Same.
And the fact he said alfurs beard daddy yeeee
@@rougeredsun5845 PFFF _yeah_
@@rougeredsun5845 *alfurs* beard daddy
*but in all serious, we need a wake up sleepyhead meme*
you got extra for whatever is in that mug? And I can't stand that blowhard cop. Also alfur having that meet cute with the record keeper was really cute and I will fight you on that
Edit: The deerfox episode is the better frozen 2
Now that I think about it, you're totally right about the deerfox ep. A Netflix show has more emotion and drama between a pet that cannot speak and a human child than a Disney movie with two humans. Why am I not surprised
well, i will say that the deerfox episode was aboslutely phenomenal. Definitely the better frozen 2. Still, I really enjoyed f2 a lot when it came out and still think it's severely underrated.
Can we just come up with theories on why the troll mother switched a random human child with her own?
What theories? Troll mother sensed oncoming turmoil, fearing for the safety of her son she made the heart breaking decision to swap her child for Hilda, believing her son would be safe from the coming war there, this either means she believes the humans will win or that the trolls would recognize him if they won so she's just hedging her bets. I don't think she means for any harm to come to Hilda though, I think she intends to protect Hilda as if she were her own, but believes Hilda will be capable enough to survive on her own, unlike her so.
That said, al Hilda's mom has to do is attempt boil water in an eggshell and the changling should just run off.
@@madestmadhatter wait so your saying Trolls can just do that? Like for example the 2 headed one could just swap places with a human and just kill everyone in Trolberg?
@@randomdude1890 that's unclear, it's possible certain requirements need to be fulfilled, for instance they must first know who they're going to replace and craft an effigy of them, then they must swap it's head with one that represents the troll, additionally it may be that they need to consume a special drink first.
Then there are the less clear things, for instance it's possible that the hair on Hilda's doll was actually her hair, this is a common necessity for sympathetic magic, they may also have needed to sleep in the caves first, then there's a possibility that not all trolls can do magic, or that it only works on children/when done for another.
Oh and on a side note I think Old Two Head is dead.
@@madestmadhatter according to the graphic novels trolls can only swap their children with human children, and that’s it.
I think it was so that her kid would be safe. The troll saw that Johanna momed good and was like “ok that’s my kids foster mama now”
Underrated UA-camrs are just what I needed today.
im laughing so hard at all of them screaming at davids messed up body
the goat that got stolen in episode 1 is probably the packing goat the troll mother used. and the troll mother is probably the same trol from ep 1, s1.
The troll child was also present in S1 too, and multiple times in S2 as well. Same pair each time.
That's it. You convinced me to watch this show again
"Wow! That was... exactly what the wiki spoiled for me"
Same here... same here...
Don't read wiki before watching, learn from your mistakes!
sadly I learned about this before the season even came out, since I looked into the graphic novels.
Is nobody going to talk about how the bard died in the abyss?
Wait, he did? Didn't catch that.
Finally someone else noticed that
dude, i saw that to..like oh snap lol. poor guy to
Llllllllloyd,
**open the Void**
Where is that?
I didnt notice :/
The fact that you were fully aware of the Alfur shipping and made so many references to it completely killed me
-if you told me two years ago that tiny invisible elf Alfur was going to be the most shipped character of Hilda I really wouldn't have believed you-
"The world being in the closet about being a fantasy" it's pretty accurate.
"Accept yourself! don't hide your true feelings."
"I'm not hiding anything. I'm a non-magical world, honest."
The funniest part is yet to come as known measures for changelings are either, cooking an entire meal in eggshells, pulling a Geralt of Rivia and putting the child into an oven, or straight up unadulterated
good ol' child abuse. This is as much a joke that in Norse mythology bad poetry came from Odin's piss after he drank a mead made of the blood of a guy made of spit.
paganism for kids!-the sequel
Merry Christmas! Stay Safe and God Bless you guys.
I am now patiently waiting for a sarcastic summary of season 3
same
I really love the heart that went into The Deerfox episode. As someone who has lost a beloved pet, I cried so hard I gave myself a headache. The visuals and the music were so amazing too! That just might be my favorite episode
Who else loves the voice of the swamp creature
Knowing a little Norse mythology, I thought it was funny when it was revealed that the swamp creature's name was Sigurd and the amulet was his. For context, Sigurd is a Norse "hero" who slayed a dragon, then cheated on his wife by sleeping with his brother's wife while disguised as his brother (I think that's what happened). There's a bit more to it, but that's the short version.
To clarify: Draugs are undead lost sailors, draugrs are undead zombie thingies. Not 'quite' the same :)
Who would have thought that Davids episode would be the most violent
I'm not sure...but I think he likes kaisa
I didn't realized how dark was the second season. But it was amazing. I can't wait for the next part.
The time travel episode really fucked with me, but for different reasons. On Hilda's second time through (as I'll call Hilda 2, and the Hilda we follow throughout the scene), we see Hilda 1 die pretty quickly and seemingly painlessly. "Well shit, that's pretty traumatic, but such is the life on an adventurer."
Hilda 3 (future Hilda, and perhaps quite a ways into the future actually) tries to save Hilda 2, but then herself dies. For multiple reasons that rocks my boat particularly. The death of Hilda 1 felt like any other character's death, even though it was literally the Hilda 2 from before. But Hilda 3's death feels like we just lost the MC entirely, and it feels like that was going to exactly be our Hilda 2 (which isn't not unwrong). Hilda 3 had an entirely different story that we never explored, and never got to see, until the very end. Yet it feels conclusive anyways. Like imagine if Tony Stark died half way through Iron Man, or Rango is shot right at his finale, and then a double of him steps out from saloon. We actually get a bit of development with Hilda 3 in her short time on screen, and of course literally still being the MC, we connect to her instantly. Then she dies. *What the fuck happened between the first timeline of Hilda 2 (before Hilda 3 interrupted, we never saw this on screen but it's implied because of Hilda 3's existence) and when we see Hilda 2 in OUR timeline on the show, on-screen?* Did she meet with the magic lady, and lay everything out to our Hilda 2....now turning Hilda 3 (for us)? Did she KNOW she HAD to die, by necessity? To save her previous version? Also, WHY did she feel the need to go back and and save her own PREVIOUS self? If she stayed and let thing play out after she altered time, she (from her perspective) would be just fine while she unwittingly set the time worm on her previous timeline versions, but she'd be untouched. But *something* fucked up, something we don't know about, but it was enough to make Hilda 3 decide to go back and fucking KILL herself just to ensure at least one specific timeline of herself existed, other than the one she just came back from. THIS is what we see on-screen. There's so much that could've happened, and something BIG happened (or DID happen to Hilda 3) that change was necessary enough to die for....or she just randomly had a moral reckoning, but I doubt that alone would be enough to kill herself over.
Someone could honestly make a mini-story on the POV of Hilda 3, and the steps and events that lead her to go back.
Also, Hilda 3 clearly had other plans on how to fix the timelines (in their own way, or at least ge things back on a track), as she was ignoring the magazine. So...what was Hilda 3's plan there?
And also, she dies horribly? Hilda 3 is on a mission to save Hilda 2, and she never even sees it to the end herself. That's a punch to the feels. As if watching Hilda 1, the version of Hilda we just followed for the first time through those events not FIVE minutes earlier just get swallowed by a worm wasn't unsettling already. And then AFTER Hilda 3 gets swallowed by the worm, we can clearly hear her scream from inside the thing's mouth. *She's fucking still alive!* Do these swallowed alternate timeline versions of people not just vanish? Fade away? Or pulled apart by the atom? Or are they consciously sent into a void of non-existence while they're still alive, in their own way? That is some uncomfortable shit to think about, especially when happening to the MC.
Watching Hilda 3 die felt just or more uncomfortable that Hilda just straight up dying in the middle of the show, no take-backsies, no warning, and no time travel even. Just dying. It's just....."what the fuck happened?"
And another unsettling thing is that with all the timelines, it feels like absolutely *completely* dumb luck that our cameras and the show followed _juuuuust_ the right timeline for everything to come out okay. Our timeline barely avoided the track to death, we could've followed Hilda 1 on her second timeline (and Hilda is eaten shortly after going back in time, end of story) or we could've followed Hilda 3 (which is who the FUCK knows what happened, but it means Hilda 1 and 2 went through their course of events without Hilda 3 coming back and messing with shit).
*In short, future Hilda's death is fucking heart wrenching, like watching the main MAIN **_MAIN_** character die*
And I probably won't get over it for some time.
You fucked up Hilda, all versions of you, Hilda. Holy shit.
I also noticed that Hilda 3 had the same oufit as Hilda in the last episode of season 2, I was scared the whole episode that that was the episode when she would go back into time, adding to the fact that when it was ending a rock structure giant worm that looked like the one we saw in the time travel episode and that the show really seems to sums everything up, as you said if it was another time line she would have disappeared but she didn’t, so that must have a meaning, adding as foreshadowing, but at least this confirms hilda will come back to her usual self and not being a troll, but there is the plot hole that the magazines were destroyed, is there another way to go back in time ?
Too bad I think the worst is about to come to the Hilda that survived
what are your thoughts about Twigs choosing Hilda over his biological family (and world?)
and what did you think about Hilda and her mother relationship during and after they got stuck in the troll cavern? (idk if thats the name)
I believe the cannon name is The Stone Forest.
It's one of those you blink you miss it moments. Twig was having a dream about a ball of light he couldn't chase > sees similar lights in the sky from his dream > goes away with his parents cause he thought maybe that what his dream meant > what do you know actual ball of light!.........IMMA CHASE IT! > ball of light manifests in the shape of hilda before going poof > dog is like "ah Sh#%@ I made a mistake" > and goes back to Hilda.
I just think it was healtier for them those experiences caused them to get closer and I am sus on Twig I think he's not the little cute thing we think he is
been waiting for this
I love the fact that the Vikings here are based on the Einherjar, who are blessed/cursed to fight forever when they die.
Hilda season 2 in a nutshell: plot hates David
Oh u got to do the season finale of Hilda it’s already out and boy was it an amazing season finale reveal on why Hilda has blue hair and about her backstory and her mom’s and what Hilda is and why she’s able to deal with magic and we meet her dad it’s so amazing 😊
This is now my new favorite channel
I wish to register an objection!
Worthless Safety Patrol guy didn't install the underwater bell. That is one of the original older bells that his famous ancestor had installed during the original founding of the city.
Also it may or may not be magic, it's unclear.
I finished season 2 just in time for this
Lmao same, I literally finished it like two hours ago
Lyndworm: "THEY'LL REGRET PICKING ON A FIRE-BREATHING DRAGON WHO SUFFERS FROM SOCIAL ANXIETY!"
Me: same
We need this to become
way bigger than it is.
It's ten times the quality of stuff
that is 10 times bigger and more famous.
That's not right.
And it matters; so change it.
Imagine having a kid that is CONSTANTLY almost diyng EVERY SINGLE DAY!!!!
Well she is a adventurer
Such is the life of an adventurer
@@LunarJaguar and probaly and entity that mighg destroy the whole world?
I think she can't tell apart from loving nature and living like a wild animal and fightning for her life
Hildas sassy teenage angst is coming out and it made me wanna slap her at least 3x per episode
just shows that shes written accurately lol
Yes but I still love her lol
Then, you're going to love her graphic novel counterpart.
Same Same
Wait what do you mean by "sassy"?
Drinking tea and watching the show on a rainy day greatly enhances the experience. Peppermint tea is ideal, with english black or green tea also being accepable. Add honey to it for the finals
15:27 I'm like 78% sure Johanna is like, a graphic designer? So I think she only designed the posters for the bell system unveiling. Not the cause of the problem, just a participant.
Doom magnet is the best description I've ever heard for Hilda. She's spent multiples of nine lives by this point, and you could probably do a 'All the Times Hilda Nearly Dies' montage.
love your not-so lowkey shipping of bartell and alfur
Now I ship it too dammit
We all ship Bartelfur here.
9:12 My favorite thing about this whole episode: the boy who opens the pit (the one with the single string guitar) gets eaten AND WE DO NOT SEE HIM AGAIN. I laughed for about a minute when I found that out.
Soft boy X Goth girl is still one of my favorite ship dynamics.
14:48 WAIT FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE WHO KINDA SHIPS THEM I LITERALLY WAS LIKE "so has no one noticed this opertunity for a ship?"