Detalhe: a iluminação acompanha o desenvolvimento da abertura e chaga ao auge no vermelho sobre todas as pessoas tanto no coral quanto na plateia. Maravilhoso!
I played this in my symphonic band senior year. This piece was insane, definitely the most difficult thing I ever played in school. Clarinets 1 get all the violin parts, which are extremely awkward to play on clarinet because of the high range and the fingerings.....
Close, it's a cimbasso. Like an F tuba that looks like a big trombone with valves, usually used in italian opera. It's a good cross between a tuba sound and a trombone sound but leans closer to trombone. There are plenty of makes and models and I have no idea which one he's playing.
Jeffrey Potter Not education, but a clear brain/mind, this is actually more accurate. Kids and Dogs get classical music best anyway, can't be too elitist if this is my position. And what's wrong with being elitist anyway? Sorry, i forgot, we have your generation to thank for making "stupid" cool. Get over yourself Jeffrey Potter, who are you determine success vs. failure? What are you like 20 yrs old or something? Fail. (like this is such a witty thing to write, FAIL, duh duh, FAIL. Let's talk classical music chief, save the stupid for your other friends.
No, that is not a cimbasso. It may be called a cimbasso, but it is definitely not like Verdi wanted. It was essentially a valved contrabass trombone in BBb with three valves, but not of a large bore that we see today - probably closer to a tenor trombone (.540"+). It would have been straight like the rest of the (valve) trombones, not this T shaped monstrosity that we now have (bores up to .750"+). Read Clifford Bevan's book "The Tuba Family" for a clearer description
Yes, it is a cimbasso..a contemporary cimbasso. The instruments of Verdi's day were totally different animals, yes, but saying "that is not a cimbasso" is similar to saying a drum set is not percussion. If you knew anything, you'd realize the trumpets, trombones, even the percussion, woodwinds, and strings, of today are quite different from those of Verdi's day. In fact, similar designs have been found from... from Verdi's day. not identical, but similar. Yes, this is a cimbasso. Unquestionably
EL director deberia saber que aunque una overtura sea interpretada fuera de su ópera, aun asi debe ser interpretada como si se representara la ópera. Su tiempos, sus matices en esta version son muy de "concierto orquestal" y no propios de la ópera, es decir, esta version tiene tiempos poco expresivos, poco dinamicos y muy mecanicos. This version its too better ua-cam.com/video/GHk1RmPzA5E/v-deo.html
It's kind of a tradition to knock La Forza Del Destino. A lot of people do this. But I suspect most of them have never heard it. They have maybe heard that instead of the power of destiny it's more like the power of coincidence. But it is an amazing opera as you can tell from the many melodies in the overture. If you are an opera novice, however, it might not be the place to start. It's a long opera which takes in many locations while following various characters. I was actually looking for a piece to recommend but I really couldn't except for the abridged movie with Tito Gobbi. Unfortunately, the UA-cam version is in Italian so if you want to watch it, you'd better read a synopsis (detailed story-line). For a taste, you could skip to 18.43 to see Leonora arriving at the monastery, to 33 mins for her final prayer before entering a lifetime of reclusion, then 1h 24mins to hear the final trio where Leonora dies in the arms of Father Guardiano while praying for Alvaro's redemption.
TedinNY Thanks for the reply. I do imagine at the very least, it's a wonderful opera to hear based on the music alone. I will most likely see the whole opera in full one day. Thanks for the helpful recommendation!
Cimbasso is the instrument that Italians used instead of the tuba back at the day, it sounds a lot lighter, but Trombones were a lot smaller as well, and they used valve trombones, therefore Italian music tends to have lots of fast passages for trombones.
Like I said, it might be called a cimbasso, but it's just a less conical tuba made to blend with the larger bore (louder) trombones. Your comparison is flawed though - a drum set is a subset of the percussion. Trying to compare that to the cimbasso makes zero sense. I have not seen a cimbasso "from Verdi's day" that looks or has a bore profile like anything made today. No need to call me dumb, I'm merely pointing out that this may be called a cimbasso, but it isn't as Verdi intended.
lol! thats neither a bass trombone, contrabass, or "retarded trombone" as discussed here. Its a Cimbasso like BehindTheLoadingScreen said. One of the rare brass instruments for sure. In fact, it plays most similar to the Tuba.
OH,BOCELLINA! Qué regalo tan precioso nos haces,gracias,muy de veras ! Disfrutar de este concierto es una gran suerte,gracias a tí.
WONDERFUL! La Forza Del Destino - my favourite opera!
My college orchestra is playing this. Not going to lie, I am having to spend hours in the practice room to get those runs in tune and up to tempo.
Not only a fantastic performance, but also fantastic visually!
Love this performance 😍
Thank you for conducting emotion
A spectacular performance!
That was awesome. I am playing this in one of my youth orchestra's and I was just trying to get a feel for the piece. This is amazing.
Zoe Ziebell I’m playing this piece in youth orchestra too!!
a middle school kid played this with his youth orchestra and it sounded superb !!!
VAYA, felicidades a esa increible sección de bronces!!!
love maestro !
6:21, for the all state violins
Darren Carter Qclaudio villa
Very very great performance by an awesome orchestra!!! Big Joe Alessi!! :)
YESSSS CIMBASSO! Low brass sounds like a freight train. So gooood!
Beautiful clarinet solo!
What a great orchestra!
Love it
J'adore
Bravo!
My high schools wind ensemble is playing this and I'm super excited to see how it turns out.
I bet you guys are gonna sound great!
Detalhe: a iluminação acompanha o desenvolvimento da abertura e chaga ao auge no vermelho sobre todas as pessoas tanto no coral quanto na plateia. Maravilhoso!
I believe that this fantastic and scenografic interpretation would be liked also to maestro Verdi.
Greetings from Modena, Italy.
i just played this at a district honor orchestra...beautiful
+Samuel Perlman yea xD
+Samuel Perlman French Horn. And you?
I played this in my symphonic band senior year.
This piece was insane, definitely the most difficult thing I ever played in school. Clarinets 1 get all the violin parts, which are extremely awkward to play on clarinet because of the high range and the fingerings.....
I can't remember since its been a couple years, but I remember that it was indeed in a different key.
Quite a concert. I was looking for Alan Gilbert's mother, but couldn't see her.
I love Verdi’s music, great performance.
4:40 for all state violas
I was at this concert!!!!!!!!!!
me and my pal olive think it's ace! Keep it up guys
saluti da S. Agata,paese di Giuseppe Verdi. la sua casa è qui a 200 metri e ogni giorno la vedo e provo emozione.
Greetings from St. Agata, the village of Giuseppe Verdi. his house is 200 meters here and every day I see and feel emotion.
Du grand art.
playing this in my brass band, violin parts weren't meant to be played on the cornet
It's very simple, just follow along:
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That is actually a Cimbasso! Common in this period and still used in the orchestras for Operatic scores.
good for you!:D
4:04 gives me chills
Yeah, such a beautiful melody
It is a cimbasso played by Alen Baer, the tuba player of NY philharmonic.
O produtor das imagens soube escolhê-las com precisão. Aquele fimd e tarde dourado acalendada pela música sa orquesta é um coisa de doido!
Como faço pra escrever meu filho nessa orquestra?? Sou do Brasil, ele é músico e ama orquestra!!
Cimbasso... YES
W Verdi W l'Italia e la sua musica
Could they have asked for a better backdrop?! I love how in 8 minutes the cityscape goes from lightly sun-kissed to full-on twilight. What a town!
It's not contrabass t-bone, its "cimbasso" (which is actually scored by the author).
I didn't know Anton Chigurh's brother was a conductor!
:^)
There's nothing quite like classical music...
It's good to finally hear a clarinet player here without a squeak.....
Why is it that videos never seem to get the conductor and audio synced up? It's slightly jarring.
Estanato Eliquase it is actually synced up. It's pretty much the industry Norm for the orchestra to be slightly behind the conductor's gesture.
Cimbasso!! :D
Tempos may vary in an overture just for variety's sake... Jussayin
Close, it's a cimbasso. Like an F tuba that looks like a big trombone with valves, usually used in italian opera. It's a good cross between a tuba sound and a trombone sound but leans closer to trombone. There are plenty of makes and models and I have no idea which one he's playing.
4:04
What does it take to appreciate classical music?
Education and a heightened conciousness
Samuel Lee
So you have to have a good education to appreciate classical music? Fail. Elitist snob.
Jeffrey Potter Not education, but a clear brain/mind, this is actually more accurate. Kids and Dogs get classical music best anyway, can't be too elitist if this is my position. And what's wrong with being elitist anyway? Sorry, i forgot, we have your generation to thank for making "stupid" cool. Get over yourself Jeffrey Potter, who are you determine success vs. failure? What are you like 20 yrs old or something? Fail. (like this is such a witty thing to write, FAIL, duh duh, FAIL. Let's talk classical music chief, save the stupid for your other friends.
Simple answer: Awareness of it and an educated ear.
Samuel Lee
Oh snap
Next to the trombone, what is that upright instrument being played?
It's a Cimbasso.
Cimbasso, In the trombone family, but in the tuba octive.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cimbasso
I really want to know what the instrument is a 5:31
Is Andrea Bocelli hiding amidst the choir ?
No, that is not a cimbasso. It may be called a cimbasso, but it is definitely not like Verdi wanted. It was essentially a valved contrabass trombone in BBb with three valves, but not of a large bore that we see today - probably closer to a tenor trombone (.540"+). It would have been straight like the rest of the (valve) trombones, not this T shaped monstrosity that we now have (bores up to .750"+).
Read Clifford Bevan's book "The Tuba Family" for a clearer description
One of my favorite pieces growing up, though I like Riccardo Muti's style better...just a tad slower...
That's actually a cimbasso. 5:22
Yes, it is a cimbasso..a contemporary cimbasso. The instruments of Verdi's day were totally different animals, yes, but saying "that is not a cimbasso" is similar to saying a drum set is not percussion. If you knew anything, you'd realize the trumpets, trombones, even the percussion, woodwinds, and strings, of today are quite different from those of Verdi's day. In fact, similar designs have been found from... from Verdi's day. not identical, but similar. Yes, this is a cimbasso. Unquestionably
I play the cimbasso professionally. Your comment is exactly correct.
6:20 !! CUE THE UMBRELLAS !!!!
You can feel lot of Beethoven's influence in this , Verdi's, overture.
Bro. Cimbasso. You'd know a contrabass if you saw it. It's just a 7 foot tall trombone.
EL director deberia saber que aunque una overtura sea interpretada fuera de su ópera, aun asi debe ser interpretada como si se representara la ópera. Su tiempos, sus matices en esta version son muy de "concierto orquestal" y no propios de la ópera, es decir, esta version tiene tiempos poco expresivos, poco dinamicos y muy mecanicos. This version its too better ua-cam.com/video/GHk1RmPzA5E/v-deo.html
Sos un estupido.
Sadly, I've heard that apparently the actual opera isn't as great as this overture. Is that true?
Does it matter? why detract from a beautiful performance
kikisdragon Just to know. Maybe it would be even greater to see the whole opera right after the overture.
It's kind of a tradition to knock La Forza Del Destino. A lot of people do this. But I suspect most of them have never heard it. They have maybe heard that instead of the power of destiny it's more like the power of coincidence.
But it is an amazing opera as you can tell from the many melodies in the overture. If you are an opera novice, however, it might not be the place to start. It's a long opera which takes in many locations while following various characters.
I was actually looking for a piece to recommend but I really couldn't except for the abridged movie with Tito Gobbi. Unfortunately, the UA-cam version is in Italian so if you want to watch it, you'd better read a synopsis (detailed story-line). For a taste, you could skip to 18.43 to see Leonora arriving at the monastery, to 33 mins for her final prayer before entering a lifetime of reclusion, then 1h 24mins to hear the final trio where Leonora dies in the arms of Father Guardiano while praying for Alvaro's redemption.
TedinNY Thanks for the reply. I do imagine at the very least, it's a wonderful opera to hear based on the music alone. I will most likely see the whole opera in full one day. Thanks for the helpful recommendation!
What kind of trombone is that at 5:29?
That's a cimbasso. If I recall correctly, Verdi asks for one of these in place of tuba.
its a Cimbasso trombone basically a large valve trombone
Cimbasso is the instrument that Italians used instead of the tuba back at the day, it sounds a lot lighter, but Trombones were a lot smaller as well, and they used valve trombones, therefore Italian music tends to have lots of fast passages for trombones.
W Verdi , solo ed unico
Like I said, it might be called a cimbasso, but it's just a less conical tuba made to blend with the larger bore (louder) trombones. Your comparison is flawed though - a drum set is a subset of the percussion. Trying to compare that to the cimbasso makes zero sense. I have not seen a cimbasso "from Verdi's day" that looks or has a bore profile like anything made today.
No need to call me dumb, I'm merely pointing out that this may be called a cimbasso, but it isn't as Verdi intended.
What is that instrument at 6:54?
My goodness.
+WaterFlame957 it's a bass trombone
+STKoz98 contrabass
+WaterFlame957 Cimbasso
lol! thats neither a bass trombone, contrabass, or "retarded trombone" as discussed here. Its a Cimbasso like BehindTheLoadingScreen said. One of the rare brass instruments for sure. In fact, it plays most similar to the Tuba.
it's a Cimbasso,not a Contrabass trombone
sembra fatta col synt. suoni fasulli.
chissà cosa direbbe Peppino ?
Hail Alessi.
L: 5:39
M:5:58
Actually it's a cimbasso ... but great sound all the same.
I played this in junior high school,but it was not really good
That's not a contrabass t-bone. I would know, I've played enough of them.
CIMBASSO
cimbasso
Orchestra is great but Conductor doesn't have sense for Verdi. sorry
this piece have a curse
too slow damn!!!
ye, almost Wagner-ish
wood? nope. sorry. try again.
Meglio Wagner!
tempo is too fast!!!! moods, characters, don't come out at all.
I didn't know Anton Chigurh's brother was a conductor!
:^)
cimbasso