Peterbilt 359 Restoration Ep.81 Big Hole Conversion
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- Опубліковано 25 вер 2024
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In this episode I finally realize my dream of sliding my seat back into the sleeper of my 359 Peterbilt “Little by Little” thank to the Big Hole Conversion kit that was supplied by the Truck Shroud company (www.truckshrou....
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These are essentially the same rings that are on the Unibilt sleepers that PACCAR started making in the mind-90s that increases the sleeper opening over 60%. It wasn’t nearly as hard to install as I was expecting and its well worth the effort of you have an old Kenworth, Peterbilt, Freightliner, etc and you want to get a little more legroom.
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PLEASE do not put bubble windows on the Duke!
Totally agree
Nooooooo!
💯
Agree 100%
Yyyuuuccckkk!
NO BUBBLE WINDOWS!! The big hole conversion is awesome. Can't wait to see it done.
I say no on the bubble window Mark. I’m so glad I found this channel all those years ago, I am a third generation driver and these old trucks bring back some fond memories of my Dad, Grandad and Uncles trucks. Thanks
Love the big hole conversion that’s going to be very cool
As for the bubble windows in the “Iron Duke” I’d say pump the brakes a hard no!
Im not sure if it will need it but i think its a good idea to maybe put a layer of silicone between the new rings and the truck/bunk panels for better water seal
Yeah I realized that after … will correct before I huck it all in 👍
@@TwinStix Please do NOT use silicone, use marine grade butyl tape.
Boaters stay away from silicone, it just doesn't last, like quality butyl tape.
Butyl doesn't degrade, I've seen it last for 20 plus years, silicone, maybe 5 years.
Check it out, do not take my word for it.
@@TwinStixplease don’t add a bubble window
I would personally use a proprietary flexible panel sealant,not silicone. There are some very good products available from Sika,3M,Wurth,Kent ind.etc. I've used a couple of different types replacing panels on campervans,motorhomes,truck bodies,caravans etc. with very good results. As someone else mentioned above, butyl tape is another method and one seemingly favoured by bus companies,presumably for ease of regular replacement😊. The two buses I've repaired had taped panels. It's worthy of note and worth keeping in mind that a couple of panels I have removed from buses was that there were instances of moisture/dirt creeping in in some areas between the mechanical fixings, meaning that the tape was no longer sufficiently sealing in those areas, probably due to constant vibration in use.
@@notpoliticallycorrect1303 If you do not have a secure mechanical hold on the panels yes. But then everything fails, at some point, when that movement between them is allowed.
The butyl is not the failure, the connection is the failure.
The 3M high strength tape, is wonderful material, it's drawback, is that, once fixed. If you have to remove, you essentially tear the aluminum panels, if they are thin, like body panels.
I hate to watch you work in reverse but I know that in the long run it will be worth it!!
Greatest upgrade. I’m 6’4” tall. I’m in the sleeper driving down the road. My 2022 when the salesman delivered it to me. I immediately pulled the seat took it back 4” and reinstalled. The back of my seat is against the bed. You turn 100 thousand miles a year in one. You gotta be comfortable. Patsy Cline playing in the background she was born and raised and laid to rest right up the road from me.
Ahhh nothing beats a Twin Sticks episode before work! Thanks buddy 👍
Workin' hard there, Mark. Earning those brewskis.
The smile on your face is priceless Mark!! Awesome job!
Cheers
Earl
Been following since that fiberglass top! It's crazy to think how long I have been watching your content. Can't wait to see that Pete all back together again!
thats still on my list of things i want to do on old red. i really should have just done it when the truck was apart but i was trying to hurry up and get the truck on the road. iv kind of gotten used to the seating position now after 200k miles iv put on the truck already but a little more room would still be nice.
Hi Mark, That is all lot of work. Just a tip. It is smart to protect the nice interior on the doors and dash with some plastic from sparks and dust. You are deffentelig inspiring to watch.
Hope you and you family have a great weekend. Greeting from Trondheim, Norway
What a great episode. I love the amount of room you ended up with on LBL. As far as iron duke don’t do the windows I think they are going to really change the look and flow of the truck and it won’t look the same.
Our rings must have been a little different. Ours tucked under the roof cap . Definitely silicone it before you get it huck bolted in . Great episode this is a big job and you knocked it out of the park!!
Yeah I realized afterwards they actually need to go on the inside … I’ll fix next week 👍
I may have been the lone dissenter on the big hole conversion, still am. Your skills and tenacity to take on that much work is admirable. However, just because it Can be done doesn't mean it Should be done. This was a pretty rare 359 with the twin sticks to begin with. Now, to me anyway, its just another resto mod like many others.
I just fail to see the point unless you are 6'3" or more, and plan to work it daily.
I'm sure it will turn out awesome and you will be proud you did it, just a word of caution to others. After all, you can't undo it.
Still giving a thumbs up, you are a master craftsman!
Check out 4 States Seat Base Adapter. Maybe you could install it and move the seat back too and have more legroom, I’m 6ft 2 and it was brutal driving those old Petes, Unibilt was a big slice of heaven come on 😂
I would say no on the bubble window on Duke. Your Pete conversion is spot on…
FunFact: When Bombardier Canada bought the Adtranz train manufacturer in the UK in 2001 one of the first changes they engineered when their first new designs came through was making every panel join Huckbolted not just a few selected areas. So the 23 metre aluminium extruded sides were placed in a frame on the carriage floor with the roof and end panels and they were all Huckbolted. Its just a brilliantly simple way to assemble and later repair panels.
And Little by Little will certainly feel better inside as well as looking Mint outside when you hit the paint gun.
Great job. Looking forward to seeing the finished truck.
Just make sure your doors close decent still . Putting the hole in you lose a lot of structural integrity essentially deleteing the whole back wall . A buddy of mine needed to add additional support around the ring to maintain a good seal on the doors
Big Hole Conversion on any TRUCK would DEFINITELY HELP!!!! Teardrop Bunk windows will DEFINITELY be AWESOME on the DUKE K100.
Oh man, I remember those clean out videos... and that new roof cap going on. For sure its was a dead mouse paradise. hahah!
I'll add my vote to the no chintzy van windows on the Duke. I hated those things on otherwise good looking vans. Keep up the class.
Thank You for Sharing, Happy New Year !! H.
Mark the manufacturer lol love what you’re doing to the truck
Mark you are living a dream of mine I have the same love for your hobby keep up the great work you do I have built a couple of trucks for the company I work for in the excavation business end of things and I really appreciate your work ethic
Nothing better than having another great TwinStix episode on my birthday. Doing a fantastic job Mark!
Happy Birthday
Happy birthday! Mine is next Thursday! I can’t wait
I have driven both ( 359 with a small hole and 379 with the big opening) and what a difference there is. The guy who said the juice isn't worth the squeeze must be a smaller fellow. I'm 5' 10" and 190 pounds and I always had the seat rubbing the back. So there is no doubt you'll love it now.
As far as the Duke goes I'm on the fence about the teardrop in the back corner. In my opinion it'll depend on the paint job you put on it. Thanks for sharing your adventures with us.
Whenever you do something too the trucks you always make it make sense
G&R Demolition outta Houston, Tx had big hole conversion done on his 95 T800 K-DUBB on his UA-cam channel
All you need now Marc is a T-top in the bunk roof so you can star watch. Bravo marra, you have wanted this for LBL for so long.
You scored big time with Blake. Just whips up that patch panel in 10 minutes.
Yeah he’s an incredible fabricator
From my understanding when doing the big hole conversion. You have to add extra bracing in the cab corners.
Nice I've been researching Big hole convertions most of the time they leave alot of steps out looks great 👍🏽
Old fans will remember when you borrowed EZRider359's Amazon huck gun to do the roof. 👌
Keep up the good work!
You’re really inspiring!!
Keep those videos coming
hello Mark & it's is Randy and i like yours video is cool Thanks Mark Friends Randy
You earned that drink!
Hey Mark another smart idea;would be an air ride conversion for both the cab & sleeper and an air ride front axle in the future.
By having the front axle and the cab & sleeper riding on both shocks and airbags,will further reduce road vibrations and further improve the overall ride quality of the truck.
I have seen several UA-cam videos of some beautifully restored owner/operator Peterbilt 359s that had the front axle and cab & sleeper converted to air ride and had done the unibilt sleeper conversion to provide better comfort for the o/o drivers that are over 6' in height.
You got the right idea for the Peterbilt, widening that area so the driver seat can fold back, EXCELLENT 👌👍!!
well done mark well done great job
34:53 "This is how I normally drive this truck..." *CHUGS BEER* "Holdin' the steering wheel, going through the gears.." *BELLLLCH...CHUG!* *VROOOMahhhhh~VROOOOMahhhh~(JAKE)~BWAAAAAAAAAAAA!* 🤣 Great work Mark! This is going to be a killer ride when finished!
Good Job buddy
Little by little is coming together again. Looks good
No bubble or tears. My vote.
Mark its always fun watching you work and figuring things out as you go along. The finished product should definitely be worth it, and who knows how many other truckers you are helping along the way.
Very minty! Looks like you’re in a reclining beach chair in Mexico. Love it!!
Mark, brother, you always get into these projects and I think I get more nervous than you do but you always manage to pull through and get it done. You are truly an inspiration brother and you always show us that anything can be done with patience and a beer 🍺 at the end of each project! Congratulations all your trucks are definitely beautiful! Cheers from Miami buddy and keep the good work! 🍺🍺🍺🍺
Mad props to Mark. I’m pretty mechanical but I doubt I’d have the balls to cut a new hole in my cab.
Hats off to ya, sir! 🍻
Hay hay corn dog .!!! Roll your windows up on your trucks . It will keep the shop dust out if them . Keep hammering brother!
hey Mark I have done a couple of 359 complete rebuilds I love them being saved from the grave.I make them look original as I can but like the big hole upgrade as I run all over canada/us with mine and its nice to have the extra space it makes a big differece when you are in them daily.that ring really should be on the inside you will have to rework those corner brackets some more,you might want to measure your boot you will lose at least 1/4 of an inch putting it on the outside and it might be crushing your boot to close together but it might not matter for your application as mine is always moving and lastly I use seam sealer not silicone its much better.have a good day!
Use a polysulfide aviation sealant to install the rings. If you use butyl to seal rings to cab when the hucks are installed it will dimple around the heads. The polysulfide sealant spreads thin and will squeeze out to leave a flush install.
Mark, your tenacity is amazing plus it’s your truck, and your comfort is what matters. Thank you for the tips and look forward to the finished product!
nice job mark excellent vid.
I put those rings in my old 1995 Kenworth. I put them on from the inside of the cab/Sleeper.
I got mine from Stahl Peterbilt.
Yeah I realized they are supposed to go on the inside afterwards … I “fix” it in the next episode 👍
You had talked about putting graphics on Little by Little, I would look into the striping used on the Pete 359 used in Smokey and the Bandit 3, it had some neat graphics on it.
Bubble windows would look awesome on the Iron Duke. What a great idea. While you are at it, cover the dash in shag carpet and blare Shawn Cassidy on the 8-track.
😂
Awesome work on the big hole exciting to see it being done. I maybe one of the only ones that votes for the teardrops on the Duke I think it would make it stand out a little more. If not bubble widows maybe some custom build flush mounted teardrops or something more custom like a widow that looks like the KW emblem
I used to use a much larger Huck gun working in the truck gang for CN Transcona the gun was well over 70 lbs connected to to large hydraulic lines that led to the power unit the size of a large tool box ,for hucking gear cases with 7/8" huck bolts
“ so this is how I normally drive “ with beer in hand 😂. Looking good so far. The tear drop window are cool I think as well
Keep up the good work mark , been watching u for years now
This was one of the best modifications I've done to mine. The truck is so much more comfortable!! I got my rings and boot from truck shrouds too! I would be so pumped if they started making cab and body panels. I dont think anyone makes the plastic a pillar cab covers either. A fiberglass version of those would be pretty sweet....
Lookin' awesome Mark! Gotta says, you didn't hesitate to jump right in and start cutting once you'd measured (not once/but twice) and outlined the exact location for the wider opening. I personally, would've been paralyzed with intimidation to accomplish what you just did alone, without a little guided assistance. I'm thoroughly impressed with your project skill set and determination. Keep on truckin'!
Duke is your truck so you can do what you want. My vote is no bubble windows.
The unibilt was introduced for the 1993 model year, so even 1990s trucks could use a big hole conversion!
Before you put interior back together have Blake weld those corner braces in and maybe add a support post in corners for support
Absolutely it's a death trap. I reckon a paper cup just about have more integrity it needs some bracing, not only dangerous but it will be flimsy like that just about move on the bumps in the road
@@bush600r2 how about the exhaust brackets held in to just a thin piece of aluminum need some support in that there corner
Hi mark well, I have to say man. No one can accuse you of being a procrastinator you just get right in there and do it. That's what I love about your show.
Don't forget to put some sealant of sorts behind that ring looks great Mark
Butyl sealant tape on a roll will get you a nice dry seal without hardening over time. This stuff is used extensively in marine construction to keep small spaces dry and sealed from water. It is way tougher than RV silicon ever will be and costs a lot less. 👍
Well done mate definitely measure twice and cut once. My only suggestion is to put a bead of sealant between cab and ring. You can never have enough water proofing. Keep the content comeing man cheers Jason
I stuck the entire ring on the inside of both my A models. Sealed them too. Figured with them on the inside of the sheet metal it would have less chance to leak
Yeah I realized afterwards putting them on the inside would make more sense ... I'll modify next week
The rings are supposed to mounted on the inside.
@@caseymac2287 already done … you can watch it now on Patreon 👀
@@TwinStix love all the videos, hate to see you get it all done then have to redo it.
this is the place where work never stops
It’s always nice to lean the seat back to help block out the sun when rolling out west.
Do the bubble! ATG might be able to help you with a window. They make some cool sleepers!
Mark, while you have the interior out, you should replace some (not necessarily all) of the huck bolts whose heads have been sanded flat by previous owners who’ve repainted the truck. If you hadn’t had taken the interior out to do the big hole conversion, you’re right to leave them alone, but as you now also have the huck gun it should be a snap to get some of the very flat ones replaced. Keep up the good work!
Billie big rigger comin’thru
Mark, I have watched & liked all your videos from day 1 (luv smokey & the bandit & Convoy etc) & really enjoy catching up with your new video on a friday(for me) to see things progressing on the trucks & workshop,Thankyou So much for helping me thru tough times, keep doing what your doing mate, looking forward to many more videos, luving the Trucks👍 All the Best for 2024🍻🍻
As someone who owned a party van back in the day that when I got it had small round tinted flat glass “turnpike windows” that just had to replace them bubble style teardrop “turnpike windows” that are made out of plastic all I can say is Don’t, Do Not Pass Go or Collect 200 Dollars. Even back in the day when you could buy quality US made plastic bubble style turnpike windows the were a constant problem. The problems started with the dam things leaked water because the gasket(s) every window kit cam with were made from gasket material/weather stripping designed and intended for automotive window glass and as a result the plastic bubble windows even when made with thick edges were still to thin. Additionally the plastic bubble “turnpike widows” could and would blow out while going down the road if you had the front windows or roof vents open and wind was blowing/gusting hard enough in the right direction. The common patch that people tried after the carpet/insulation/paneling was damaged or ruined was to remove the window and gasket and fill the groves/chanels in the with silicone which might of sealed the leak but then the paint and windows were stained from water/silicone. Additionally the silicone always oozed out in places that were impossible to clean up when installing the windows. Besides leaking, and blowing out the things would break with a hard stare after they were a year or two old and or in cold weather. Lastly when you get tired of the damn things you are left with a pair of holes in the side of your vehicle that are a pain in the arse to patch and make look like they were never there. Besides that did I mention if you buy a set of those windows then you should buy several sets from the same seller because the size of those windows are definitely not the same between makers and even between lots from the same manufacturer. Lastly the damn things feel like they aren’t installed when it is anything other than 70 and partly sunny outside because the plastic has zero insulation properties.
Mark, You do what you want but from someone who owned a vans with plastic bubble style turnpike windows as well as a van with flat window glass turnpike windows I definitely would recommend getting ones made from flat tinted window glass if you are dead set on installing turnpike windows in the sleeper of the Iron Duke but personally I would not.
Mark! Please don't put that bubble window on the Duke, it'll look like a wart on a backside. Love your work and the vids as always.
I wouldn't use a silicone on that ring. Id be looking fir something that won't deteriorate in extreme weather.
Sika maybe? Or panel bond? But you want to direct the small amount of moisture getting behind the rings
Plan on using 3M adhesive sealant 👍
She is looking fantastic all rubbed down great work on the trucks pal there going to be look fantastic ❤❤❤❤❤
The bubble windows are a cool idea.... Something Hot wheels would do... But no.... Not in real life please... Or at least just not on the Duke. LOL Thanks for taking us through a big hole conversion Mark! I really thought it would be far more complicated than that! LBL be a fantasy dream truck for sure!
Good morning Mark, I am glad to see you back working on LBL. To see the ol’ truck back in the mix. I am a big fan of the channel, as I relate to all these projects. Thank you for the great content and information you give. You inspire people to take on projects and get hobbies too. Keep on truckin…. Remember, if you got it, a trucker brought it!👍👍
Looks great keep up the awsome content marc can't wait to see it all painted up going to look great
No bubble window! As usual love episode enjoy watching
The fun part is yet to come and that will be aligning up the ring to the bunk. Can`t wait to see that struggle.
Not really … once the centerline is established and the base height is set on both the cab and bunk openings they’ll match just fine 👍
hi Mark big job wish i knew you were going ahead with the conversion they make a two piece ring so its easy to install just set it in and slide one piece up and other down on inside of cab but Youll geter done Good luck
the beauty of the two piece is especialy if both truck and sleeper are non unibilt you can use existing huck bolt holes on top of both instead of cutting out roof cap its really the only way to go easier and doesnt compromise structural integrity and gives same result really a game changer for this conversion looking forward to the rest of your job good luck Mark
A large amount of the windows were custom-made. If you haven't seen it done yet the process is fascinating
Now you call it a fully customized truck ! Every thing you did different makes it your truck !
This is why I'm thankful that in Australia we have integrated bunks. We don't even have a big hole. It's just open. There's nothing to leak, nothing to trip over when you're drunk. You can fit your fridge behind the passenger seat and freezer behind the srivers seat. Ou don't smack your head on anything and you can stand up to put your jeans on.
I spent a few years in older trucks with small bunks when I was younger but no way in hell I'd do it now I'm older and fatter.
Ten4 looks great Mark lbl gonna be comfortable
Butler performance is just up the road from my house, really cool guys
Looks good! I'd probably have put a small bead of silicone between cab and ring. Other then that I really like it 🚛
So happy that you were able to get the big hole conversion figured out. LBL is your truck and you have to make it into what YOU want! The only crying shame about it, is having to take apart that beautiful Day Cab Company interior. But outstanding work. Can’t wait to see next weeks episode! Maybe you should have given us a 2fer😂
Great job as always Twinsticks i say gio for the bubble window its your truck and it will be one of a kind
I admire your energy. Almost all your episodes feature a full Gym body 12 hour work out!
I hope you have a sedentary weekday job....
Great job, Mark! I’m sure this episode will be a reference for many.
I wish you had sealed between the ring and the cab before attaching it. Weather leaks can be an issue.
Watch next week 👀
@@TwinStix Always!
Haha I loved that shot of you sitting with the Beer with the seat on relax modus! Great job m8