I agree with Zittel. People who tune into boxing for Jake Paul aren’t becoming fans of the sport because they watch these fights for a different reason. It’s a shame because Barrios Ramos and Taylor Serrano were two excellent showcases to draw fans in, but because neither are really talkers or “viral” they can’t grasp the attention of the modern audience. I wish I had a time machine so I could live through 20th century boxing.
That's the point of what Jake is doing he's trying to bring more money into the sport more viewers causals or not and he's promoting women boxing how can you hate bro
UA-cam is your Time Machine …… all the fights are on it 🫡….. Jake Paul is the face of boxing 🥊… he took over the sports in 4 years and everyone let him
@@maj-__- did you hear Sean speak on this in the ep? He makes a great point. It’s like a politician who’s dropping bombs on civilians in some foreign country, then posing for a photo op handing out backpacks at a school. Just because he does a nice thing doesn’t mean he’s not still shitty for the sport overall. Fighters like Canelo, AJ, and Inoue today and a number of historical legends have EARNED their way to stadium shows through their MERIT as athletes. The skills, talent, and fighting spirit of the great fighters are what make the sport worthwhile. This, above all else, is what made Tyson the phenom he was. At 58 he has none of that left. Jake Paul has very little of that. Strip away the merit aspect and all you’re left with is shit. It doesn’t matter if it’s the most perfectly cooked filet mignon you can possibly have, if it’s served alongside shit you’re sending it back. It’s a shame that us boxing fans who love a good steak have accepted the fact that we have to eat shit alongside it. Let’s have some dignity.
@lacca_music214 I understand where you coming from but aside from Jake and Turki who else is trying to bring more viewers I'm no casual by any means so I like real fights but at least he's doing something
Zittel’s take here was perfect. I could not have said it any better. Literal “shit” is the perfect metaphor. Strip boxing of all the things that make it inspiring and this is what you’re left with. All of the things that made Tyson an elite champion are gone at 58. Jake Paul doesn’t come close to having those kind of traits. Without any of that, it’s just shit. And the country ate it up, knowing it was shit. No dignity. And it doesn’t matter that he brings good fights with it. It’s like a restaraunt serving a plate of perfectly cooked filet mignon, delicious garlic mashed potatoes, and a side of shit. It doesn’t matter how good the food is, you’re going to walk out because there’s shit on your plate.
B Side Sean’s rant on the main event is why we mess with him. 💯% FACTUAL. His analogies and microcosm were incredible. I was like B-Side , one of the few real ones that said this shouldnt happen and won my bets because of it.
The Ladies had another fight of the year... Katy Taylor must have been auditioning for the WWE with all those damn intentional head butt's...I know she had to make adjustments to counter Amanda Serrano, but I thought they would be legal adjustments. Lol Now a third fight is necessary to prove it wasn't just wasn't the cut that gave her an unfair advantage?
Totally disagree with Zittel. The fact that 50+ million people tuned in to watch a BOXING match is a net positive for the sport. At the end of the day it’s a BOXING match not football,mma,golfing etc
it's not that i don't believe tyson when he said he almost died in June, but why step in the ring if you can't be a tiny bit competitive, i didn't expect mike to win but didn't expect him to look that bad, we all wanna hate on jake (yes he's annoying), but mike was selling us wolf tickets, but i'm happy he got his 20mill
Zittel got dropped bc he was speaking bad about Tevin Always Getting Robbed Farmer. Shawn cussing more after that baptism😂 who baptized u the cussing pastor from tiktok😂rotfl.
jake did not disrespect anyone about boxing KNOWLEDGE, it is cuz they were talking about a BET and dude was saying "how much you wanna lose" he was acting arrogantly with jake ABOUT money that is the issue
Jake Paul has found a niche and is exploiting it, using clever tactics to blur the lines between himself and professional boxers. By associating himself with pro fighters, he manipulates public perception to make people think he’s a legitimate boxer too. Logan Paul plays the role of the biggest instigator, while Jake is the ultimate manipulator-think of them as the Tekashi 6ix9ine of the boxing world. The positive side? The world is starting to see the difference between true professional boxing and their version of it. These two don’t have a deeper purpose or passion behind their actions-their 'WHY' is purely about chasing money. Let’s see how far that mindset takes them. Grab your popcorn. The only concern is how this might impact Amanda Serrano, a legitimate talent under Jake Paul’s promotion. Hopefully, she doesn’t face backlash from being associated with their antics. It's all marketing. The disappointing part is how sanctioning bodies allowed this into the sport, showing that it is slowly losing its integrity.
He used to irk me but like I said the last 1-2 years I have come to appreciate his boxing knowledge both on fighters & behind the scenes….Kellerman is another for me, he always aggravated me too but all that stuff about his brother being killed is horrible & Kellerman has been MIA lately since Max on Boxing got the 🪓
First off Fake Paul does run boxing because USA loves spectacles and seeing a ninja take an L. Second Showtime chill with this Errol talk…you lost bruh and what Max Kellerman said is exactly why SAS clipped him from FirstTake. Finally after a rewatch Amanda Serrano won both fights…we gotta chill with the treachery in boxing I love the sport but this is criminal now, straight robbery. Call it like it is on the show. Pokemon headbutt attacks from Katie is crazy btw.
Havnt seen this man give Clarissa this much love. Dahhhm and they cone from the same roots... But the other night Amanda own the ring. I have to SAY THAT AND SHE LOOKED GREAT
Idk man I had Katie Taylor winning that fight. She landed cleaner punches and her counters were effective. I also think Serranos punches were smothered a lot fighting up close. Compubox don’t always tell a fight. I agree Serrano pushed the pace and momentum but not without receiving punishment. I would love to see Serrano tighten up on defense and cut off the ring more from Katie.
Katie got outlanded to the head and body she got outjabbed she just got out worked and Amanda landed at a higher connect % that’s how I saw it it’s a reason Katie don’t want that 3 min rd smoke
Katie didn't win .. she threw less punches and landed less punches , plus Amanda landed more harder punches .. and as the connect percentage goes .. Amanda landed with more accuracy .. Amanda at 44% and Katie 41% 3 points higher for Amanda , but the big shocker was Amanda landed 107 more punches than Katie .. the 107 punches landed can't be denied or ignored , Amanda was the busier fighter .. while Katie clinched more and ran a lot through out the entire fight , but I also felt that Katie's punches were also smothered , I had Amanda winning the fight.
I disagree about Jake out pricing himself. Jake has made a career of looking like a fool on screen z, so I think he would take the fight, make the biggest pay day and be out after squeezing the juice completely
If you want to become rich and famous in boxing kids.. forget about the gym and amature ranks, between ages of 8-20 go to social media clown school, become the best most popular clown you can be.. then learn basic boxing and by then you will have enough money and dopey fans to buy celebrity vetted opponents and become a rich and famous boxing icon where its even a debate wether your good for boxing or not?
I agree with Zittel. People who tune into boxing for Jake Paul aren’t becoming fans of the sport because they watch these fights for a different reason. It’s a shame because Barrios Ramos and Taylor Serrano were two excellent showcases to draw fans in, but because neither are really talkers or “viral” they can’t grasp the attention of the modern audience. I wish I had a time machine so I could live through 20th century boxing.
That's the point of what Jake is doing he's trying to bring more money into the sport more viewers causals or not and he's promoting women boxing how can you hate bro
people got short attention spans
UA-cam is your Time Machine …… all the fights are on it 🫡….. Jake Paul is the face of boxing 🥊… he took over the sports in 4 years and everyone let him
@@maj-__- did you hear Sean speak on this in the ep? He makes a great point. It’s like a politician who’s dropping bombs on civilians in some foreign country, then posing for a photo op handing out backpacks at a school. Just because he does a nice thing doesn’t mean he’s not still shitty for the sport overall. Fighters like Canelo, AJ, and Inoue today and a number of historical legends have EARNED their way to stadium shows through their MERIT as athletes. The skills, talent, and fighting spirit of the great fighters are what make the sport worthwhile. This, above all else, is what made Tyson the phenom he was. At 58 he has none of that left. Jake Paul has very little of that. Strip away the merit aspect and all you’re left with is shit.
It doesn’t matter if it’s the most perfectly cooked filet mignon you can possibly have, if it’s served alongside shit you’re sending it back. It’s a shame that us boxing fans who love a good steak have accepted the fact that we have to eat shit alongside it. Let’s have some dignity.
@lacca_music214 I understand where you coming from but aside from Jake and Turki who else is trying to bring more viewers I'm no casual by any means so I like real fights but at least he's doing something
48:17 Kept it a Billion! This is why we love Zittel ‼️
When tpwp drops I drop everything
facts!
We need More drops than 1 a week 🥲
Why didn't they ask about drug testing or medical testing? They didn't have none of that.
Ohb
It's CRAAAZY he got Ashton kutcher on the pod
😂🤣😂
Katie Vs Amanda was closed but truly Amanda should have got the decision because of the point deduction and the dirty tactics of Katie Taylor
Everyone thought Oscar Valdez was going to press Shakur and he got dominated the whole fight. I think Zepeda vs Shakur goes the same way.
Zittel’s take here was perfect. I could not have said it any better. Literal “shit” is the perfect metaphor. Strip boxing of all the things that make it inspiring and this is what you’re left with. All of the things that made Tyson an elite champion are gone at 58. Jake Paul doesn’t come close to having those kind of traits. Without any of that, it’s just shit. And the country ate it up, knowing it was shit. No dignity.
And it doesn’t matter that he brings good fights with it. It’s like a restaraunt serving a plate of perfectly cooked filet mignon, delicious garlic mashed potatoes, and a side of shit. It doesn’t matter how good the food is, you’re going to walk out because there’s shit on your plate.
Katie Taylor is going to take the third fight because where is she going to make that type of money at fighting somebody else?? I'll wait 🤔🤔
that nino brown metaphor 🔥. zittel sharp as a tack
Damn Zittel just ATE! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Good shit
B Side Sean’s rant on the main event is why we mess with him. 💯% FACTUAL. His analogies and microcosm were incredible. I was like B-Side
, one of the few real ones that said this shouldnt happen and won my bets because of it.
Amanda won both fight 🇵🇷🇵🇷🇵🇷🇵🇷🔥🔥🔥❤️❤️❤️
The Ladies had another fight of the year... Katy Taylor must have
been auditioning for the WWE with all those damn intentional head butt's...I know she had to make adjustments to counter Amanda Serrano, but I thought they would be legal adjustments. Lol Now a third fight is necessary to prove it wasn't just wasn't the cut that gave her an unfair advantage?
Another Women's FOTY candiadate imo..in 2022 I think Ellie Scotney vs Guanini was better in 2024 there a few lwadong candiadtaes ahead of this rematch
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Amanda Serrano is such a sweetheart. She deserves that trilogy. I think she could take a W if she got another chance.
Zitel was cooking with his Jake Paul take. “Like nino brown giving out turkeys.” Is a valid perspective
Sean is that guy💯top 3 boxing commentators
Couldn't wait to hear you guys opinion of Friday night
Totally disagree with Zittel. The fact that 50+ million people tuned in to watch a BOXING match is a net positive for the sport. At the end of the day it’s a BOXING match not football,mma,golfing etc
Corporate shill
Shawn hating on the Saudi card lol that whole card was fire , the Ramirez-Barboza was mid but all the others was bangers
50/60/70s imo, but a case can be made for any decade, love to see Sugar Ray R. Lomattoa Graziono, & ALL the HWs.. sooooo many more, but you got it..
Amanda was robbed twice
it's not that i don't believe tyson when he said he almost died in June, but why step in the ring if you can't be a tiny bit competitive, i didn't expect mike to win but didn't expect him to look that bad, we all wanna hate on jake (yes he's annoying), but mike was selling us wolf tickets, but i'm happy he got his 20mill
I'll defend Jake on this. He only disrespects boxers who come at him first. Shields was trashing him, so he responded.
Tevin vs Floyd would be a really good one
The head butts and dirty fighting from Katie Taylor was disgusting shame on her! Amanda Sarrano was the true victor💯
It's my job 😂🤣 that's when you know you wrong...
Love Amanda!
Zittel got dropped bc he was speaking bad about Tevin Always Getting Robbed Farmer. Shawn cussing more after that baptism😂 who baptized u the cussing pastor from tiktok😂rotfl.
🔥🔥
Arnold Barabosa vs Kenneth sims jr, Kenny beats the breaks off him or Arnold finally shows everyone something we have been trying to see
Jake Paul made a boxing career off exploiting amateurs but this was too far and after seeing Mikes performance this was just morally wrong
100% agree with this
To Amanda you won BOTH them matches Girl!!!!
We need Wilder vs Jake Paul!
Ant defo is the people champ he funny he need he's own spin of podcast
jake did not disrespect anyone about boxing KNOWLEDGE, it is cuz they were talking about a BET and dude was saying "how much you wanna lose" he was acting arrogantly with jake ABOUT money that is the issue
Valdez brought volume against shakur and got sat down… i’m cashing that over against Zepeda
Jake Paul has found a niche and is exploiting it, using clever tactics to blur the lines between himself and professional boxers. By associating himself with pro fighters, he manipulates public perception to make people think he’s a legitimate boxer too.
Logan Paul plays the role of the biggest instigator, while Jake is the ultimate manipulator-think of them as the Tekashi 6ix9ine of the boxing world. The positive side? The world is starting to see the difference between true professional boxing and their version of it.
These two don’t have a deeper purpose or passion behind their actions-their 'WHY' is purely about chasing money. Let’s see how far that mindset takes them. Grab your popcorn.
The only concern is how this might impact Amanda Serrano, a legitimate talent under Jake Paul’s promotion. Hopefully, she doesn’t face backlash from being associated with their antics.
It's all marketing. The disappointing part is how sanctioning bodies allowed this into the sport, showing that it is slowly losing its integrity.
Sean be talking that shit man
I love this podcast, I don’t miss a Monday. For some reason I feel like it’s missing something idk
oh ye i forgot seranno did not get a phone til her 30s
Did Shawn get dropped from dazn 😅
My sentiments exactly Mike didn't so his self any harm and made some money but really expected to win come on
IDE like to see Amanda get 50 wins under her belt.
You know for years I couldn’t standddddddddddddddd zittel BUT he has grown on me this past year or so…dude knows his boxing
Really? Wow. TBH I’ve always found him engaging as he actually has good knowledge on the sport as well as asking engaging questions in interviews
@@soulstart89he one of the best to report n analyze the sport
You know who i still can't stand is Max Kellerman. He can talk any other sport the moment he talks boxing, I'm done😂😂😂
He used to irk me but like I said the last 1-2 years I have come to appreciate his boxing knowledge both on fighters & behind the scenes….Kellerman is another for me, he always aggravated me too but all that stuff about his brother being killed is horrible & Kellerman has been MIA lately since Max on Boxing got the 🪓
@ I didn’t realise that happened to max. You are right he has been MIA from boxing.
Yo Shawn, Dogma, that’s it, if your catholic, please watch, watch in general, funny as hell
I feel like Shawn’s argument for Serrano winning contradicts his argument for Bivol winning
Yeah that “Jake Paul respects boxing” went out the window & it wasn’t just shu shu he did it to every boxer on the card except Amanda Serrano
Bro Tyson not 56. Tyson 58 bro.
Zittel the fucking goat
First off Fake Paul does run boxing because USA loves spectacles and seeing a ninja take an L. Second Showtime chill with this Errol talk…you lost bruh and what Max Kellerman said is exactly why SAS clipped him from FirstTake. Finally after a rewatch Amanda Serrano won both fights…we gotta chill with the treachery in boxing I love the sport but this is criminal now, straight robbery. Call it like it is on the show. Pokemon headbutt attacks from Katie is crazy btw.
Havnt seen this man give Clarissa this much love. Dahhhm and they cone from the same roots... But the other night Amanda own the ring. I have to SAY THAT AND SHE LOOKED GREAT
Lets get Zittel a phone holder for the car , hes too good to be holdint the phone like that
....i really want to see Richard Torrez against Jake Paul!!!!!!!! please!!!!!!!!!
i need to re-watch the Serrano/Taylor fight... i was certainly distracted but i thought Taylor had won the fight. i may have missed something though!!
I had Serrano winning the fight.
Idk man I had Katie Taylor winning that fight. She landed cleaner punches and her counters were effective. I also think Serranos punches were smothered a lot fighting up close. Compubox don’t always tell a fight. I agree Serrano pushed the pace and momentum but not without receiving punishment. I would love to see Serrano tighten up on defense and cut off the ring more from Katie.
Katie got outlanded to the head and body she got outjabbed she just got out worked and Amanda landed at a higher connect % that’s how I saw it it’s a reason Katie don’t want that 3 min rd smoke
Nah bruh.
Katie didn't win .. she threw less punches and landed less punches , plus Amanda landed more harder punches .. and as the connect percentage goes .. Amanda landed with more accuracy .. Amanda at 44% and Katie 41% 3 points higher for Amanda , but the big shocker was Amanda landed 107 more punches than Katie .. the 107 punches landed can't be denied or ignored , Amanda was the busier fighter .. while Katie clinched more and ran a lot through out the entire fight , but I also felt that Katie's punches were also smothered , I had Amanda winning the fight.
shawn get in their with jake paul .. the fans will love it and so will boxing
I disagree about Jake out pricing himself. Jake has made a career of looking like a fool on screen z, so I think he would take the fight, make the biggest pay day and be out after squeezing the juice completely
Lol SP ✍🏼👁️👁️📺
I hated that fight and didn't watch. Zytell is spot on imho
i don’t want to see a trilogy…. Amanda just cannot take it over the finish line and she keeps repeating she is a featherweight moving up
But she did win both fights.
Amanda is starting to get that boxing slur.....she's a great fighter tho.
Jake Paul 👍 v Chris Avila 👎
If you want to become rich and famous in boxing kids.. forget about the gym and amature ranks, between ages of 8-20 go to social media clown school, become the best most popular clown you can be.. then learn basic boxing and by then you will have enough money and dopey fans to buy celebrity vetted opponents and become a rich and famous boxing icon where its even a debate wether your good for boxing or not?
Do people forget Tyson was in jail for rape?
Yupp this is your idol. Lol