I was in Army ROTC at the University of Tennessee when Lane Kiffen was head coach. People from Knoxville like to hate on him, but he (or at least somebody on his staff) helped us Cadets out. During the winter months he let us do morning Physical Training on the indoor practice football field. Sometimes the players and conditioning couches would come do the work outs with us. He let us use the Athletes Dining facility because it was located attached to Stokely (ROTC building) so we could eat breakfast after PT instead of walking 15 minutes across campus to the other cafeterias. And they hooked us up with speacial Addidas workout shirts that had our Battalions logo on it. They mirrored the ones the football team used. When Derek Dooley came in as Head coach all of the above was cut off.
I don't particularly have a problem with Kiffin. He was young and did what every CFB head coach does. The real tragedy is how our Athletic department and UT in general handled the situation after he left. Some of the most baffling and bad choices in college football history. Acting like a group of 5 program instead of the powerhouse we actually are
Dabo absolutely uses his Rolodex. That’s the reason they fell from prominence. He used the friends and family program instead of his agents list. He’s since fired all those guys. This is the year to see if he corrected.
Great story! To run a top-level football program requires enormous patience, organizational skills, and a combination of savvy and cunning in order to maintain success. Ppl hv no idea the friction that exits, not only between players and coaches but, training staff, administrative staff, and media. There's a lot of potential chaos to keep at bay over even just one year, let alone almost 20yrs!
@@gobigorange Sort of like whenever Saban is live in person with Pat Mcafee and crew 😂. I just watched Saban's segment with Pat from a day or 2 ago. He's obviously friends with Pat and crew. It's pretty entertaining IMO. There's a, good dynamic, but with Saban being the perfectionist he is, you can tell it gets a little wild for him from time to time😂.
Kiffin and Sark were both at SC under Carroll before all this. Kiffin dad was Monte, a defensive coordinator if I remember correctly in the NFL. Practices and games were a big thing in LA at the time because all the pro teams sucked during the Carroll window before the NCAA killed our program.
So Josh, how does it feel that Nick Saban has come out and said that he never had the conversation with the agent? Maybe you should get your money back for that book?
I love your show, but there is no chance that somebody tells coach Saban. Who to hire they may make suggestions presenting with some coaches that may want to leave where they are. But I can bet my life. Nobody tells coach Saban Who he's gonna hire. That may be how the rest of college football works. But there's no chance you'll ever get anybody to believe. That's how they're going tell The greatest of all time to do it
Lane needs to find another high profile coach to try to attach to in order to get attention . Years later, hes still mentioning saban in every interview etc
Lane damaged the way Alabama operated while he was there. Before Kiffin, we were one of if not the most disciplined team in the country year in and year out. After Kiffin, not so much. I believe that Nick never got back that type of discipline.
The only reason Ohio State beat Bama in '15 is because Kiffin forgot Derrick Henry existed. He could have handed that man the ball every time and easily won (coming from a Buckeye fan)
I can’t stand Lane Kiffin or his supporters. He is what they think James Franklin is, except worse. Lane Kiffin can’t even be competitive with the sport’s best. James Franklin comes one play away. Lane Kiffin comes one roster away. I bet he’s the only coach ever to lose 6 games with a preseason #1 team. Yes, he actually was #1 at one point.
This is pitiful. The extent of Josh’s “insider scoop” is he was loitering in the tunnel. Do you realize how many maintenance men, random event staffers, stadium personnel, et al are seeing the same things you are? This is NOT insight. This is not a special window into anything. Please stop with the I’m an insider routine.
Agreed -the more that I listen to him and the more that I view these videos I'm beginning to recognize and come to the realization that he is nothing but a charlatan
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I was in Army ROTC at the University of Tennessee when Lane Kiffen was head coach. People from Knoxville like to hate on him, but he (or at least somebody on his staff) helped us Cadets out. During the winter months he let us do morning Physical Training on the indoor practice football field. Sometimes the players and conditioning couches would come do the work outs with us. He let us use the Athletes Dining facility because it was located attached to Stokely (ROTC building) so we could eat breakfast after PT instead of walking 15 minutes across campus to the other cafeterias. And they hooked us up with speacial Addidas workout shirts that had our Battalions logo on it. They mirrored the ones the football team used. When Derek Dooley came in as Head coach all of the above was cut off.
Cool story. Thanks for sharing.
I don't particularly have a problem with Kiffin. He was young and did what every CFB head coach does. The real tragedy is how our Athletic department and UT in general handled the situation after he left. Some of the most baffling and bad choices in college football history. Acting like a group of 5 program instead of the powerhouse we actually are
That’s great. Much respect
Meemaw always said: "If you aren't on the bus in time we're just leaving!"
I take it that someone has now showed Jimmy Sexton how to use the mute bottom his phone so he doesn’t have to cover the speaker anymore?
Boomer
Dabo absolutely uses his Rolodex. That’s the reason they fell from prominence. He used the friends and family program instead of his agents list. He’s since fired all those guys. This is the year to see if he corrected.
Cool story, however I think a lot of us are happier not knowing how the sausage is made.
Joey Freshwater, Tuscaloosa legend
Best version of this story!
Great story! To run a top-level football program requires enormous patience, organizational skills, and a combination of savvy and cunning in order to maintain success. Ppl hv no idea the friction that exits, not only between players and coaches but, training staff, administrative staff, and media. There's a lot of potential chaos to keep at bay over even just one year, let alone almost 20yrs!
Saban and Kiffin need to do a reality show together
Saban would have a heart attack or stroke 😂
@@gobigorange Sort of like whenever Saban is live in person with Pat Mcafee and crew 😂. I just watched Saban's segment with Pat from a day or 2 ago. He's obviously friends with Pat and crew. It's pretty entertaining IMO. There's a, good dynamic, but with Saban being the perfectionist he is, you can tell it gets a little wild for him from time to time😂.
Kiffin and Sark were both at SC under Carroll before all this. Kiffin dad was Monte, a defensive coordinator if I remember correctly in the NFL. Practices and games were a big thing in LA at the time because all the pro teams sucked during the Carroll window before the NCAA killed our program.
NCAA didn't kill your program you got off light compared to what Alabama got hit with in the 90s.
His dad was the DC for the Bucs when they beat Raiders in superbowl
Great story thanks for sharing
If Talty has anything to do with anything----- Don't read it--He is the reason I left 247 sports/Alabama site.
Details please 😮
Not take anything away from Nick, but I think we would have won that national championship if Lane had been on the sideline.
These stories make me sad, coach. RTR 🐘
So Josh, how does it feel that Nick Saban has come out and said that he never had the conversation with the agent? Maybe you should get your money back for that book?
The book is correct
@@JoshPateCFB 😭 why did he deny it then? He should’ve at least fessed up to it. (Nick Saban)
I love your show, but there is no chance that somebody tells coach Saban. Who to hire they may make suggestions presenting with some coaches that may want to leave where they are. But I can bet my life. Nobody tells coach Saban Who he's gonna hire. That may be how the rest of college football works. But there's no chance you'll ever get anybody to believe. That's how they're going tell The greatest of all time to do it
Hey Pate. I've got a Major Neland story. Wanna hear it?
NO
Lane needs to find another high profile coach to try to attach to in order to get attention . Years later, hes still mentioning saban in every interview etc
Lane damaged the way Alabama operated while he was there. Before Kiffin, we were one of if not the most disciplined team in the country year in and year out. After Kiffin, not so much. I believe that Nick never got back that type of discipline.
The only reason Ohio State beat Bama in '15 is because Kiffin forgot Derrick Henry existed. He could have handed that man the ball every time and easily won (coming from a Buckeye fan)
Yeah they never stopped him and then lane just stopped using him in the second half.
You could probably figure stuff out quicker if you stopped using words like “i-josh”
Kiffin wanted to get fired
i’m not saying i don’t believe you, but i’m just curious as to how you know lane got in the shower 😂
This is gov. in a nutshell.
Talty is a JOKE!
I can’t stand Lane Kiffin or his supporters. He is what they think James Franklin is, except worse. Lane Kiffin can’t even be competitive with the sport’s best. James Franklin comes one play away. Lane Kiffin comes one roster away. I bet he’s the only coach ever to lose 6 games with a preseason #1 team. Yes, he actually was #1 at one point.
It honestly sounds like you’re jealous of the lane hype.
This is pitiful. The extent of Josh’s “insider scoop” is he was loitering in the tunnel. Do you realize how many maintenance men, random event staffers, stadium personnel, et al are seeing the same things you are? This is NOT insight. This is not a special window into anything. Please stop with the I’m an insider routine.
Agreed -the more that I listen to him and the more that I view these videos I'm beginning to recognize and come to the realization that he is nothing but a charlatan