4:13 There are videos available on internet where they are presenting 2S25 the early Sprut, and in the video there are few segments where they move gun up and down and its similar to BVM vertical speed, and Im talking about early Sprut.
@@MagnusMage I would insist on 10.3. In my opinion it would be perfect. It’s the same case with 120S with KE-W. That round goes through everything, yet 120S is on 10.0
@@MagnusMage no difference even at 11.7, it's still thin can with good gun and western mbt mobility, they could move it at any BR that have lineup around it and it wouldn't perform any different.
Yeah, mango is pretty much on par with everyone else’s stuff. The T90A is only 10.7 though and it has 3BM60 so it’s not too crazy. Most light tanks at that BR have more pen than the MBTs. Look at the 10.3 abrams and the Wolfpack with M900.
@@DiscipleWToh noo! XM-1 and M1 Abrams can't be penned by an older 3BM42 shell ( 100% real!!! ) Brotha... 3BM42 will pen the same as 3BM60 lol Nothing has armor so everything pens even a weak shell will
@@DiscipleWT because i am annoyed that just because something gets a really good shell that it matters anything when even the worst shell does the same job lol For example.. a Bradley... 3BM22 will do same as 3BM60 Lmao It don't matter at that LOW of a BR since everything you face already don't have tons of armor so even worse shell pens... better shell just doesn't really do much... except maybe giving you more confidence so you can do better lol
Now that you have mentioned the abrams having 5 second reload, is there a legit reason on why the IPM1 and M1A1 are the same BR? because now they have the same reload and the latter has better round than the other. your thoughts?
If I remember right, the IPM1 has better armor than M1A1, or at least that's what it used to be (while the A1 was only an up-gunned M1 Abrams). Now I don't know anymore, since there doesn't seem to be a real difference between variants starting from M1A1 in-game (even SEP V2 has the same base values in X-ray and info card), although I know for sure there has been a couple of armor upgrades between then overall in real life. According to a list found on Reddit, this should be the modifications between the Abrams armor layouts: - IPM1 introduced thicker NERA arrays. - M1A1HA introduced generation 1 DU armor inserts. - M1A1HC standardized generation 2 DU armor inserts. - M1A1 AIM v.2 introduced generation 3 DU armor inserts. - M1A2 introduced generation 2 DU armor inserts to retrofitted tanks. - M1A2 SEP introduced generation 3 DU armor inserts. - M1A2 SEPv3 likely has thicker armor, but may also feature new generation DU armor inserts, as well as compatibility with ARAT system as part of the TUSK program. I know for certain that IPM1 ran in parallel with M1A1 to upgrade the old Abrams vehicles and make them effective enough to be used until a later variant would completely replace it (and upgrade the older M1A1s to newer standard).
its gen 3 i believe very good thermals for the br the only issue that i had with the vehicle was the grind its an incredibly large vehicle and if a player is good they will shoot the hull and 1 shot u
Dunno why they even gave this 3bm60. Could buff Stryker instead. Or think about Bradley, BMP, other IFVs which are just awful until you sneak like a rat
The fact that the Puma sits at the same BR as every other IFV and still has no missile is wild. Why buff striker though? Doesn’t it get M900 like the Wolfpack? That’s 500+mm of pen with an autoloader.
@@fboyg91 Degradatsya also sits at 10.0 but feels ok. Just because it has ok autocannon. In current mapdesign missiles are almost useless even if it's bmp-2m. Most of my kills on it are made with apfsds. What about Stryker, it's downsides are mobility, reloading a bit longer than soviet autoloaders, meh vertical angles and sometimes piercing. Sprut doesn't have such or compensates them with something else. Piercing specifically. I don't really complain in fact that it still allows to erase dumb hamsters in top tier, but it feels not gut
It s hard to win when half your team leaves after one death in the first 5 minutes even if you do your job by killing 10 guys xD. That happens quite often in my battles. Even more with the addition in high BR premium. Even more when you got squad with 1 or 2 rank 1 tanks, lvl 5 players in 11.0...
yeah many will go RussiAN BiAs and scheise like that, but teams at 9.3 - 11.3 are so obnoxious that not matter what you play you will most likely lose.
Glad I’m not the only one noticing how awful 10.0-10.3 Russian teams are. I got the T72M2 forever ago and I’m convinced it’s one of the best, if not the best, 10.3 tanks in the game. I just can’t stand playing it at its own BR. Despite having an absolutely GOATED lineup with amazing vehicles, 10.3 Russian teams are just garbage. I have to drag that T72 up to 11.0 just to have a chance at getting on a competent team.
This is balanced at 10.0 tbh It needs a vertical guidance buff though… it is SOOO slow and unrealistic. But I feel like it’s a balance thing.. but gaijin should fix it. 8:57 I’m glad people are finally waking up to the fact that the Russian tech tree has been nerfed so bad, or br’s changed so much that the Russian tech tree is bad now.
ok.....Again New Shit for the russians.....They should give others new stuff or the Right stuff sorry to say that but Gaijin Loves Russia !. my opinion is Russia Dosnt Need mor stuff gaijin should do first Other stuff like Balancing after the Produce time or give vehicles the right whapons...... dont missunderstand me pls but others like American / British tech trees ( to name just 2 ) Had many Holes in the tree, why is Gajin not Fixing that ?
TEC can you stop f-ing vehicles BR, just becous you spaided them and felt they needed something...,??? Wasnt the A-10 Late and A-6tram been enough??? Just asking, for a of mine friend?
adidas 2S25M
With how good its gun is, I'd its more like adios.
4:13 There are videos available on internet where they are presenting 2S25 the early Sprut, and in the video there are few segments where they move gun up and down and its similar to BVM vertical speed, and Im talking about early Sprut.
I don’t think that naming it unbalanced is fair due to so many downsides it has. But in my opinion it could be raised to 10.3. No more no less
with 3bm60 10.7 would be fine
@@MagnusMage I would insist on 10.3. In my opinion it would be perfect. It’s the same case with 120S with KE-W. That round goes through everything, yet 120S is on 10.0
@@MagnusMage no difference even at 11.7, it's still thin can with good gun and western mbt mobility, they could move it at any BR that have lineup around it and it wouldn't perform any different.
Down tiers don’t exist lmao wtf are you on?
@aidenrogers1468 at that point just play T-90A. This vic has no armor at all. Its fine.
3bm42 is more than enough at this br tbh
ah hell nah
Yeah, mango is pretty much on par with everyone else’s stuff. The T90A is only 10.7 though and it has 3BM60 so it’s not too crazy. Most light tanks at that BR have more pen than the MBTs. Look at the 10.3 abrams and the Wolfpack with M900.
Man you really must love the 2S5M don’t you. You’ve been playing it almost every stream!
It gets 3BM60 at 10.0
@@DiscipleWT oh my!
@@DiscipleWToh noo! XM-1 and M1 Abrams can't be penned by an older 3BM42 shell ( 100% real!!! )
Brotha... 3BM42 will pen the same as 3BM60 lol
Nothing has armor so everything pens even a weak shell will
@@kajmak64bit76 all I said is that it gets 3BM60 why you sound chapped.
@@DiscipleWT because i am annoyed that just because something gets a really good shell that it matters anything when even the worst shell does the same job lol
For example.. a Bradley... 3BM22 will do same as 3BM60 Lmao
It don't matter at that LOW of a BR since everything you face already don't have tons of armor so even worse shell pens... better shell just doesn't really do much... except maybe giving you more confidence so you can do better lol
Bruh what 2 tandem ATGM and 3bm60 is crazy at 10.0. 10.3 or 10.7-11.0 is crazy. No reason a 9.0s should ever see this. Never mind 10.0s
Wolfpack is the same BR with M900. 3BM60 isn’t *that* much better.
Now that you have mentioned the abrams having 5 second reload, is there a legit reason on why the IPM1 and M1A1 are the same BR? because now they have the same reload and the latter has better round than the other. your thoughts?
With a little decompression I could see it moving down
If I remember right, the IPM1 has better armor than M1A1, or at least that's what it used to be (while the A1 was only an up-gunned M1 Abrams). Now I don't know anymore, since there doesn't seem to be a real difference between variants starting from M1A1 in-game (even SEP V2 has the same base values in X-ray and info card), although I know for sure there has been a couple of armor upgrades between then overall in real life. According to a list found on Reddit, this should be the modifications between the Abrams armor layouts:
- IPM1 introduced thicker NERA arrays.
- M1A1HA introduced generation 1 DU armor inserts.
- M1A1HC standardized generation 2 DU armor inserts.
- M1A1 AIM v.2 introduced generation 3 DU armor inserts.
- M1A2 introduced generation 2 DU armor inserts to retrofitted tanks.
- M1A2 SEP introduced generation 3 DU armor inserts.
- M1A2 SEPv3 likely has thicker armor, but may also feature new generation DU armor inserts, as well as compatibility with ARAT system as part of the TUSK program.
I know for certain that IPM1 ran in parallel with M1A1 to upgrade the old Abrams vehicles and make them effective enough to be used until a later variant would completely replace it (and upgrade the older M1A1s to newer standard).
I just hope they add the Leopard 2 ARC 3.0 with the 140mm cannon, autoloader, crewless turret and 3.3 second reload next patch at 10.3
honestly i would change the 3bm60 for 3bm46 in exechange of better elevation like the t72b3 and hopefully the old gearbox of the 2S25
when did the sprut get 3bm60? it was just fine with 3bm46
Idk but I love it 😂.
This update Actually
last update I believe
Nah it needs the 3bm60.
Do you constantly get RUS vs. RUS matchups at this BR? Haven´t played in a while.
It’s pretty consistent, yeah. 4-5 games out of 10, I’d say. And of course, you always have the brainlets on your team.
I really thought the update was gonna come tomorrow 😢
its gen 3 i believe
very good thermals for the br
the only issue that i had with the vehicle was the grind
its an incredibly large vehicle and if a player is good they will shoot the hull and 1 shot u
Dunno why they even gave this 3bm60. Could buff Stryker instead. Or think about Bradley, BMP, other IFVs which are just awful until you sneak like a rat
The fact that the Puma sits at the same BR as every other IFV and still has no missile is wild.
Why buff striker though? Doesn’t it get M900 like the Wolfpack? That’s 500+mm of pen with an autoloader.
@@fboyg91 Degradatsya also sits at 10.0 but feels ok. Just because it has ok autocannon. In current mapdesign missiles are almost useless even if it's bmp-2m. Most of my kills on it are made with apfsds. What about Stryker, it's downsides are mobility, reloading a bit longer than soviet autoloaders, meh vertical angles and sometimes piercing. Sprut doesn't have such or compensates them with something else. Piercing specifically. I don't really complain in fact that it still allows to erase dumb hamsters in top tier, but it feels not gut
It s hard to win when half your team leaves after one death in the first 5 minutes even if you do your job by killing 10 guys xD. That happens quite often in my battles. Even more with the addition in high BR premium. Even more when you got squad with 1 or 2 rank 1 tanks, lvl 5 players in 11.0...
With its downsides it was fine with 3BM46 at 10.0. It could go to 10.3 with the current 3BM60 it has.
The vertical gun tranverse is probably so bad because they haven't coded the automated vertical firing solution systems into top russian vehicles.
4:56 more points at why is at that br then
*slav squatting intensifies*
Penguins are pretty sick
Did bro say not the best reverse gear 💀
I want M829 and M829A1 back on US rank 6 not the lame M77 rounds and the ammo nerfs on US Rank 6 was stupid, Gaijin is Bias
I need this skin hahah
yeah many will go RussiAN BiAs and scheise like that, but teams at 9.3 - 11.3 are so obnoxious that not matter what you play you will most likely lose.
Does this thing still sound like a lawnmower💀
Yep, Asu-57 tradition is still going strong.
Yeah, it is so god damn loud
Glad I’m not the only one noticing how awful 10.0-10.3 Russian teams are. I got the T72M2 forever ago and I’m convinced it’s one of the best, if not the best, 10.3 tanks in the game. I just can’t stand playing it at its own BR. Despite having an absolutely GOATED lineup with amazing vehicles, 10.3 Russian teams are just garbage. I have to drag that T72 up to 11.0 just to have a chance at getting on a competent team.
This is balanced at 10.0 tbh
It needs a vertical guidance buff though… it is SOOO slow and unrealistic.
But I feel like it’s a balance thing.. but gaijin should fix it.
8:57 I’m glad people are finally waking up to the fact that the Russian tech tree has been nerfed so bad, or br’s changed so much that the Russian tech tree is bad now.
Russian gun handling is bad in real life too, so it is realistic.
@@curtsauce3947 according the propaganda you listen to. Get the cotton out of your ears, and grow a conscious. Hope cage
Oh blyat! Fila Blyat, addidas nakhuy! Toy-Toyota!
This thing is a powerhouse even at 11.7. Love to get a kill and cap in this then rain down hell upon thee with the KA52 and SU25
Shame on you
@@nyccoyax3831I’m sorry but I have to have fun once in a while. Nearly punched my monitor last night playing 9.3 air rb
@@Likeawormthat bracket of air RB is FOUL bro
Typical Russian Bias
ok.....Again New Shit for the russians.....They should give others new stuff or the Right stuff sorry to say that but Gaijin Loves Russia !. my opinion is Russia Dosnt Need mor stuff gaijin should do first Other stuff like Balancing after the Produce time or give vehicles the right whapons...... dont missunderstand me pls but others like American / British tech trees ( to name just 2 ) Had many Holes in the tree, why is Gajin not Fixing that ?
TEC can you stop f-ing vehicles BR, just becous you spaided them and felt they needed something...,??? Wasnt the A-10 Late and A-6tram been enough??? Just asking, for a of mine friend?