I am a horse rider and what you did was extremely considerate even turning the engine off if that had been me i would have thanked you greatly !!!!!! i hate rude riders makes us all look bad :(
I know. My horse would have freaked out at the vehicle too, but the driver did everything he could too reduce the horse reacting badly. I would have been ever so grateful to him.
@@c3pno very true I sadly just lost my 2 old boys both 18.2 hand draft horses almost 30 yrs old I'm heartbroken more groundwork is needed with her horse
No, no it fucking doesn't. You people need to stop with generalization of people that do certain things. Shit people exist in all forms. Rich, poor, in the middle, bicyclist, drivers, pretty much any activity, cultures, skin tone, ect. It's a human thing and nothing else.
@@absolutelyfookinnobody2843 really? Yes people come in all shapes and sizes. But stupid is commonly found in all . What was this quad rider supposed to do turn around and leave? Or I get it now my bad he was supposed to build a wall before the horse got to him so that the entitled goat on the horse could see him. Yeah that's it.
You did the right thing!! As a horseback rider, I am so sorry you had to have a rotten experience like that! Why can't humans just give each other common courtesy no matter what they're riding or driving??
You're right....I think she just lashed out because she was embarrassed that her horse got spooked and wouldn't walk on. Some horses get like that - they spook and stop dead in their tracks. They won't go unless another horse goes in front of them. They are herd animals dependent on instinct. The rider might not have done anything wrong regarding the fact that her horse didn't want to cooperate BUT her rudeness is NOT acceptable. It's because of people like this that the rest of us get a bad name. :-/ I am not a snooty tooty rider. I used to ride for hours every week and taught kids. Now, for several reasons (one being health) I only ride casually but BOY we still tear it up :-D Riding should be fun - damn this snobbery.
As a horse rider myself, I would have thanked you for being so considerate, very kind of you to cut the engine and wait till they have passed a fair way before restarting. Very naughty of them to give us all a bad reputation!
If her horse is nervous around motor vehicles she should stick to bridleways (of which there are many) not Byways open to all traffic (of which there are few). Part of the problem has been the relentless closure of byways leaving fewer to drive/ride for those that wish to and therefore increasing traffic on them.
You acted perfectly, stopping, turning off your engine, the whole shebang. The problem here was clearly the rider, judging by her seat, how she held the reins, and her poor communication she's a new rider and thus it's hardly surprising she wouldn't know the rules. All the cred to you for acting exemplary!
+Em A Viking I tots agree, but the bay horse looked nervous, some horses get nervous by tires on the front of cars or just cars themselves, the rider was probably a bit fearful of the horse turning and making a run for it, I know I get nervous when my pony get's nervous but yes the rider should have maybe given herself a talking to to say she needs to be calm and then the horse would be calmer. :)
You got it right on the nose, all other byway users learn to read maps (because we always check where we can go), except for horse riders who seem to think they own the byways. I've had a lady charge me with her horse when I was on a bicycle.
As a horse rider I’d like to thank you for being considerate. Judging by the way she’s holding her reins and her seat, I’d say she’s a novice rider and shouldn’t be hacking out in an area known to have bikes on a skittish horse. Riders know their horses and so if you have a nervous horse, just don’t ride it in these areas
Well said, we have horses & wouldn't dream of taking them on the lanes. We also have bikes & do take them on the lanes, we have witnessed far worse from horse riders than this. There are far to many people out in public that don't know how to handle horses, it is a recipe for a very nasty accident!
The problem here is a young, untrained horse. You see it follow the other more experienced horse through. Nothing else you can do as a driver or motorcyclist than stop and turn off your engine and wait for the horse riders to sort themselves out.
Hi Blacktiger, I personally think the problem is the angry Woman on the untrained Horse. We were quite happy to wait, she copped the arse cos she couldn't make the Horse do what she wanted. I guess she didn't have a great deal of experience either. I actually admire people who ride, you would never get me up there, I don't like the idea that you can't disengage the clutch or put the brakes on whenever you choose!
pcezar1 lovely comment I have an 18.2 hand horse hes wonderful on the roads ect scared of tractors though bless him and thankfully he has good brakes i agree she did not handle the situation perfect nor is she a fanstastic rider she was incredibly rude she was embarrassed so took it out on you !!
angiebeanfuls paranormal adventures, we are all out there to enjoy the country side and need to be able to look out for each other. Some 4x4 drivers and motorcyclists let the side down too.
angiebeanfuls paranormal adventures, we are all out there to enjoy the country side and need to be able to look out for each other. Some 4x4 drivers and motorcyclists let the side down too.
No its the stupid barn witch for not properly sacking out her horse. Then take it out on the nice man in vehicle, he was just being nice and courteous. How annoying for stopping all the time.
Wish I experienced more bikers like yourself when I had my horse. Every other one I met either didn't stop, revved their engine or yelled at me for being on the cycle track. When a horse spooks like that it's the rider's responsibility to keep a level head and assess the problem. The woman on the piebald horse had the right idea. Be calm, let the horse have a good look and let him walk past when he wants to. The worst you can do is tighten up and pull the reins like the woman on the bay did. It gives the horse signals that you're scared too which is not what you want. Again, the woman on the piebald was right in going first as her horse looks older and more experienced which would help the younger horse. You did the right thing though, it was all on the rider.
Rumble Delta, thanks for your message. I feel we are all out there to enjoy ourselves so should be able to use the country side without spoiling other people's pleasure. Can I ask why you watched and commented on such an old video? It is getting a lot of veiw and comments all of a sudden and I don't know why, thanks.
Haha, I don't know. It just showed up on my recommended feed and I gave it a watch. If I had to guess I would say it is because a lot of horse people on YT watch a guy called Rick Gore who talks a lot about natural horsemanship and does have videos about horses encountering motorbikes so I suppose that's where a lot of people are coming from.
Like any animal, horses pick up on the rider's cues and attitude. She was obviously bristling as soon as she saw the Landy, therefore the Horse interpreted it as some sort of danger. It's the same with idiots who shouldn't own Dogs. They get stressed, which stresses the dog out which stresses the owner out etc. etc.
Have to say that you did everything correct and wish more drivers showed such consideration. Can only apologise for that women, yes she had a nervous horse but that is not your fault and it's her responsibility to try and train it to overcome that problem not yours. Also there is excuse for rudeness.
Hi Miguel it starts in three mile cross off the Baisingstoke Road and runs along side the A33 in Berkshire. Looks like it's in the middle of nowhere but has a busy very road one side and quite a large housing estate the other.
Hiya from Kaitaia, True that, very true. You could say; Difference between a horse and a motor vehicle? One can get you to and from another place without having to dump highly toxic carcinogenic shit from the exhaust, off the brake pads, flying out of various engine seals. Both would be correct. Hope you and your equine friends are keeping cool in this heat :)
"apart from all the highly toxic carcinogenic shit coming out the exhaust, off the brake pads, flying out of various engine seals eh?" ...so how do you travel to and from your horse riding areas? ;-)
Or perhaps her horse was young and highly-strung and out for a training hack ? The fact that the other horse/rider quickly took the lead indicates just this. Horses aren't cars. If they aren't behaving, it doesn't mean the "driver" is a numpty.
You did the politest thing you could have done. Thank You! The equestrian, on the other hand, should probably take her horse back to ground basics if she is going to insist on riding where her horse is easily spooked. Just my humble opinion.. 😉
I have to admit that i find it very annoying when i come across horses whilst greenlanig, as we have very few places to ride legally and there are far more bridal paths then green lanes. But what gets to me the most is when they shout "slow down"!! or "my horse doesn't like noise"....... Then why bring it to a ROAD where the majority of the vehicles are offroad motorcycles or loud 4x4s ? We may never know
Half the time we have to use roads or byways or green lanes to get to the bridleways. No horse rider ever enjoys having to go out in traffic. What's so hard about slowing down for a few seconds to let us pass?
Bridal ways might be more by number but most are heavily fragmented. We often had to use roads or greenways to get to the next section of bridal way. I don't agree with being rude, good manners never harmed anyone. The driver in this clip didn't nothing wrong and went out for his way for the rider. It's a shame selfish rude people ruin it for everyone.
I'm sorry but personally known as a horse owner if I was out and about and there was motorcycles and people well my horse better damn well get used to it is all I have to say in this day and age where in the world do any of us have to go so place like this why can't everyone enjoy it horse people get your horses used to everyday life and that means automobiles motorcycles dogs etc etc
It was one sentence to many and not the correct one even then!, the only words that should have left her mouth should have been " thank you very much!"
I've been riding horses my whole life and if I would have come across someone and my horse would spook it would be my fault obviously this lady needed to do more groundwork before she ever got in the saddle for her to blame someone else for her problems that's pretty stupid there is the problem she needs to realize she doesn't have control of the horses feet
Absolutely did the correct action. If was riding I would have thanked you for being a considerate driver. The track is a BOAT so all are entitled to use it.
Yup, even if you don't ride, most of us know how respectful and considerate this is around horses. You da man on doing what we all should alway strive for - consideration for people you don't even know. Thanks from the rest of us. //ji
Whenever I see a horse rider be it on my motorcycle or truck I slow down or even stop and shut off my engine and I have yet to meet a rude horseRider , they are most grateful and really friendly u must have met the exception
When I had horses, I trained them to trust and respond to me as their leader. I would have welcomed any encounter with you on your day out, moving or not. In doing so, I was able to develop the skills of my animal to not be afraid if a less confident rider like the one shown tensed up and tightened the reigns. The properly trained animal tells the rider “don’t worry about it, I got this” 😊
I live in a rural area and we have horse riders round here, there's one woman in particular that when you meet her even before you get close she starts flapping her arms about to slow you down and as she does that those panics she can't control it, then when she finally passes she she starts ranting, one of these times she's going to get a gob full, I can't stick the bloody woman
I'm more gobby if I'm on my mountain bike or walking the dog, I try to be the perfect ambassador of off road drivers and riders cos we have more than our fair share of dickheads. Back in my early days of off roading I know I did a few things that I wouldn't do now but I wasn't totally offensive.
+ Bundy's Blade I don't have a problem with anyone who is happy to share the lanes but it's the few who think it's their given rite to have sole use in 100% perfect conditions, unfortunately most of them are sitting on the back of a horse ; ) keep enjoying the countryside & thanks for the comment.
Clearly she was embarrassed because she couldn’t control her horse, and that is what most horse riders are all about anyways, control & entitlement - aggression in many vehicle confrontation starts with one party being embarrassed. Sometimes even the most considerate party can’t do enough to please some people.
Most horse riders are always thankful for pulling over and acknowledge you for doing so. I live in a horse racing town ,where there are some of the most arrogant stable lasses and lads who thing they rule the roost just because they're sitting on a prized race horse ,their manners seem to disappear as so as they mount the nag. I realise if you live in a place that has over 2000 racing horses you can not avoid them, however instead of trying to light your fag,talk to someone on your mobile phone or chatting about your weekend exploits , consider the people sitting in a line of traffic needing to get to work.
To be fair, this is an area for recreational use now. New paved roads provide better access for normal traffic. However these routes are for everyone to use and I think we just need to be respectful to other users. I don't know anything about horse riding (apart form I don't want to try it) but some people have commented and said she's frustrated and possibly embarrassed by her lack of riding skills.
I’m a rider but I agree that she did know what she was doing. She was probably a new rider as she was pulling her reins side to side making the horse confused but u handled it very well
Thanks Erin. We're all out there to enjoy ourselves, and I'm trying not to get branded as an idiot or give vehicle users a bad name. We do get a fair amount of stick for using our rights of way but like everything it only takes a few abusers to upset everything and give everyone a bad name.
One of the joys of being out in nature is the peace and quiet of the countryside. When they make *silent* 4x4s, then I won't have a problem with their invading the countryside. The fact that their presence on rural byways is legal just shows that apparently a majority of modern humans no longer have any real appreciation for the peacefulness of undisturbed nature. You can't go anywhere these days without being bombarded by constant noise -- either loud engines, "music" or TV, etc. Nature *was* our last refuge -- before the invasion of legal 4x4s.
This is a great video and shows everyone can share these lanes together. Your driving was very safe and considerate as were all the other people using this byway including the walkers whos dogs well behaved, and I never saw that you were causing any problems at all, the horse lady had no reason to talk to you like that.
I think you’re awesome for being considerate I like trails like this are available to people so other areas in nature arent getting tore up and looks like people are going safe speed I dont think he should have any reason to bitch some people just want the entire trail to themselves
Thanks, I try to act as I would like other people to when out on the lanes. I want to be able to enjoy myself without upsetting other users. I think I must just be unlucky, I was mountain biking at the weekend and a horse rider had a go at me for not calling out a warning and that I was creeping up on her. I did point out that I was riding up hill and trying to catch my breath before I caught up with them.
Well, i must admit i don't like 4x4 or any kind of motorized transport in a calm forest. But i also agree with the person posting. As long as he show respect to a horse rider or dog walker by either pulling to the side and/or killing the engine, he has as much right to be there as any one else on an all trafic way.
You remind me of my father. didn't like playing paintball as it was shooting at a person, but enjoyed having my friends play and stay at his rural property.
I live in the southeast area of the United states, I own just a few acres, but nearby friends own anywhere from 85 to over a hundred, and this is why none of us, let no one but close friends use the land. People are rude and ridiculous.
For 20 years I walked and snowshoed logging roads and trails in the woods of Northern Minnesota. Very few were restricted to foot traffic. Those were clearly marked and usually gated. The ATV riders totally ignored the signs, drove the trails in Spring leaving deep muddy ruts. Subsequent ATV's would try to ride around the water that would collect and eventually it became a small pond. If it did dry out, with vegetation I could not see the ruts and ruined my ankle on the deep ruts. 99% of the trails are available to ATV's, but they HAD to ruin the only trails that were restricted. I do not have a high opinion of ATV's or their rider, and they had no respect for me or the trails.
Bet it different when she driving which I am sure she does living in the middle of nowhere. The problem with people like this is they get a beautiful, spirited animal which they can't handle properly and it is everyone else's fault
There are so many of these videos from Great Britain that it makes me wonder, beyond the signage that states "byway open to all traffic" if there is signage and/or training on the etiquette triangle (*as it is often referred to here in the States), in regard to which user-groups have the right of way over others. As stated by others though, it seems like you did the exact right thing, in this case, yielding to all other users politely and correctly.
@Thomas Nichol I think you misunderstand me... I realize no user-group has priority over another as far as access - what I was referring to was the etiquette or polite way to yield the trail to others when they meet head on or pass one another. Here, we do the following: Everyone yields to horses, wheeled vehicles yield to foot traffic (human feet or animal feet), motorized vehicles yield to non-motorized, and four wheeled motorized traffic yields to two wheeled motorized vehicles. Downhill travelers of the same type yield to those traveling uphill. Generally speaking trails are normally not open to motorized vehicles, so we end up with three user-groups (horses, hikers, and bicyclists) and use the "etiquette triangle" system. It isn't fool-proof, nor does it adequately account for all situations (like faster moving users passing slower moving users traveling in the same direction), but it is a helpful set of baselines that serve to quell many frustrations and/or problems (*that your byway system seems fraught with).
I ride, you were polite in act, she was embarrassed on her horse balking, and spoke in spite. She should have used it as a schooling moment, got the horse to obey then thanked you for you patience. Assholes abound even in natural areas.
Go out for a walk or ride down a narrow dirt trail in the woods and there always seems to be some fuque blasting through on a motor vehicle or motorcycle
This was filmed in England Bill, all the trails shown are classed as roads, have road names and are clearly marked on maps. As unpractical as it is most are also national speed limit (60 MPH) although it would be highly unsafe to try and go that fast.
@@pcezar1 Yeah, I get all that. On that same note it's like being deposited on the dark side of the moon and off in the distance you see a group teenagers on dirt bikes approaching you. While I'm being a bit facetious the situation in reality is just about as bad here in the US - on any and every hiking trail or dirt path through the most remote and impassable areas you can't venture out without getting beset or terrorized by motorbikes, ATV and such.
As a horse rider I think you did ALL the right things! Like that woman should be grateful that you were considerate and didn't revv the engine or speed past her. Horse riders have a right to be on their but you do too! Really sorry about this ungrateful and foul woman's attitude! And plus if she tightened up her reins and didn't boot her horse massively with loose reins, let him/her look at 4x4 the horse would have been ok
Tempted to think, the only thing she should be riding is a rocking horse. Map reading would have shown it was a by lane track, most riders would welcomed the driver shunting down the engine.
Mate you behaved perfectly, as a horse rider and a motorcyclist I can tell you that horse men are much more realistic and reasonable than horse women, I avoid them!
yeah no you did the completely right thing. She just couldn't handle that size of horse maybe she should be on a pony instead. She didn't even reassure the horse gosh people these days are so rude. Ive had experiences where the driver was a complete dick and left the engine on and even beeped but you thank you. You know how to actually drive a car.
yup, smaller definitely means easier to handle.... It's funny though, all the little ponies I've ridden were absolute shits while the larger horses were far nicer... I think the only upside is that if you fall, you don't go very far XD
+Sophie_ Nicole Oh sorry I didn’t see what you meant. I agree with OI though the bigger horses I’ve ridden have been so lovely but all of the times bar one that I’ve fallen off have been 13.2 or under. Definestly doesn’t mean easier to handle its temperament not size
I live in america so I don't know what people mean half the time in the comments, by bridal way etc, if you know there's going to be loud vehicles, dogs etc, get your animal/s use to it. EVEN if you have to cross the road for a second a horse should be able to be okay with cars. I know horses can be unpredictable but don't take it out on a vehicle owner either, I had a tb he could be fine with something one second and the next he'd be spooking, but I was able to control him easily so that's just my opinion edit: I think you did well, even if my horse is freaking out here in am people usually keep driving by, dont get me wrong though im use to it and it works out that way, easier for me anyways lol, Where my grandparents use to live everyone was respectful, riders and vehicle drivers.
City cowgirl, Hi! Here in the land of small and quaint we have lots of restrictions as to trail use, marked on good maps and should have a sign post at start and end. Footpath - walkers only, Bridleway - Horses, cycles and walkers, Byway - anything that is legally usable in public. There are some other dirt tracks that are driveable but it gets too complicated. As an off road vehicle user I am very limited as to where I can go legally, non vehicle users have more choice but unfortunately still cop the arse when they come across a vehicle on what is essentially a highway. I'm insured, taxed and fully legal with every right to be there, I go out of my way to be respectful but still have to endure this attitude from others. They will never put me off because I enjoy the trails and getting away from the normal traffic, even in a vehicle you see an amazing amount of wildlife. Thanks for commenting.
Hi Pcezer, would it be ok to feature your clip in a stupid/angry ppl vs bikers some time? It would be credited in the description and comments sections. Thanks, MM.
Some years ago we were walking along a very narrow green lane, a section only wide enough for one persons width because the undergrowth encroaching in severely, in the distance we saw a 4x4 ploughing down the lane towards us, it wasn't until the last metre the driver decided to stop, it scared the living jesus out the missus & me, so I bloody well told him so, all we got back was a load of abuse and he didn't give a flying fuck about our safety, he hit the horn and drove his shitty 4x4 further into the undergrowth and went around us both, knocking over small trees/bushes/ivy, leaving a wake of destruction as he went away, as we continued to walk on the very narrow section of lane it was awash with torn down shrubbery, which became hazardous for us to both walk along. As the lane got a bit wider it was walkable again, we both said together ''thank god for that'' but since this incident we no longer walk on such lanes in fear of being killed by a nutter. There comes a time when green lanes shouldn't be used by 4x4's, just common sense not to travel on such narrow areas, especially when councils have built up banks to stop vehicles from accessing such lanes, I'm surprised no 4x4 has never killed anyone.
I'm sure somewhere someone has been killed in such a situation. Unfortunately you get all sorts of dickheads in this world. I personally would quite happily drive down overgrown lane's, the land owner is actually ment to keep the undergrowth back and also responsible for removing fallen trees. I drive a lane near me that doesn't get a lot of use and becomes very overgrown to the point I find it hard to get through on my mountain bike if I'm on the route, so I will go and drive it a few times to make it passable. It has a six foot width restriction either end one of which is actually much narrower than is real world six foot but it's still a road with a national speed limit but you need to be responsible and expect other traffic, foot or wheeled. I wouldn't let 1 instance stop you from getting out on the byways just remember it's a road, there's going to be some traffic. Unfortunately everybody has too many rights now and not enough people have enough common sense to work out when to apply them. You can stand in the middle of the road shaking your fist at the traffic, you have right of way as soon as you step of the kerb, it doesn't mean your not going to get run over!
Hi, BaddaBigBoom - country life would be a dream but here next to the busy A33, 2 minutes out of Reading (a town not something you do with books) probably a leaf drop would be tolerated, even by a horse! These lanes are not in the backside of nowhere, most are accessible from A or B roads not out the back of beyond. I think of myself as lucky that I have so many places to enjoy and give me the illusion of being in the middle of nowhere. In truth to the right of the shot with the horses just through the trees is a petrol station and builders merchants and then the A33 dual carriage way.
I know Reading, I have driven through it many times. Compared to where I live though, it is still carrot crunching territory ;-) I'd stick to the A33 if I thought I might get wound up by some silly tart on a horse.
Just showing the elite in there perfect environment, unfortunately it happens all to often and I don't see why the vehicle users always get the bad rep, it takes all sorts. I just wanna get out there and enjoy it.
Lightweight? Ive had this several times, often telling me I’ve no right to be on the track, my favourite is when they tell me they’re going to tell the land owner, which is me.
Yes it's a lightweight, still got it. We haven't been out so much recently, the wet weather and traffic are affecting the local lanes quite badly. Got a few that are closed to be able to recover but it just means more traffic on the open ones. I did the lane that runs alongside the A33 near Reading recently in my Rangie and it was a mess, people have started making divesions into private land. Won't be long before that gets closed too. We are starting to run out of places to go unfortunately.
I've came across lots of idiots like this over the years.they always seem to think byways belong to them and that vehicles dirt bikes etc are not allowed..as you said.try actually reading a map👍
Any good rider would have used that as an opportunity to train their horse. It was spooky and kind driver shut off vehicle. Bad horse rider blamed driver when actually they should have allowed horse to smell and check it out.....
I am always baffle by horse riders like that, she should have decent knowledge of the rights of ways, given her hobby. My recent encounter with a horse rider was very polite as shown on my channel. She should be held to that same standard when it comes down to knowledge on rights of ways. I suspect she knew that legal status, and i would expect this is not her first time riding on the byway, nor her first encounter.
Yeah, I had the same feeling. Angry that she couldn't get the horse to go where she wanted it. Glad she took it out on me and not the horse to be honest. She's probably the type of person who would punish their dog for having an accident in the house while she was out.
BootneckSA80A2, never saw any quads but if we had I'm sure the riders would have been smiling and known the classification of the lanes they were on 👍🏻
The lady looked a bit out of balance on the horse and seemed to be using the reins a little to much. Nothing wrong with the horse maybe just a little spooked, but it couldve been handled better if she knew how to ride better
OK, let me add my 2 cents worth. My wife and I travel the US with horses to trailride. Alot of times this is on shared trails (hikers, 4 wheelers, bicycles, etc). Courtesy dictates that horses have the right of way due to them being animals with a mind of their own and easily spooked. You did EVERYTHING CORRECTLY. You pulled to the side to allow the horses to have plenty of room to pass. You shut off your engine as to not spook the horses with the noise. You showed more courtesy then most do. The issue appears to be a 'green' broke horse that has not been desensitized to things it will encounter on the trails. Second, the rider appears to not have good control of her horse; she was nervous & anxious on horseback, the horse is able to sense the riders anxiousness and responses accordingly. I've had horses spook on the trail over rocks, trash, armadillos, deer, wild hogs, down trees, you name it. Conclusion: know your horses limitations on the trail and ride/respond accordingly...
We're human, make mistakes or misjudgement at times. I think she was just annoyed/frustrated that the horse didn't do what she wanted. Like you say, animals sense your fear/tension but its hard to relax when you know what's coming. I have an anxious dog so get the Idea, I just now try and walk him places he won't get stressed. Doesn't always work 100% but good damage limitation if we do have a problem.
Guys ik it looks like she didnt know what she was doing but horses are unpredictable chances are theyve never seen a vehicle like yours and instead of escalating the situation she let the more confident horse take the lead. So please dont say she didnt handle her horse because she did
🤦♂But you do not understand, as public access this is HERS and only hers - no one else. You were more than courteous. Being a bigger guy 6'1" 350# walking through packed malls over the Christmas holiday, dodging girls, women and children, and the elderly. Then it occurred to me, WTH, why am I moving out of their way.
I've ridden horses in Aus since as early as 1970. In Aus horse riders are required to exercise adequate control over their mounts when on public roads / paths and to share with MOVING vehicles. I lived in the UK in the mid 1990s. I met several horse riders while driving on public roads / paths. Without exception they ALL proved to be ignorant, arrogant 'entitled' individuals who had minimal control of their mounts. From my experience, UK 'hobby' riders wouldn't last 5 minutes in Aus.
As an equestrian, this embarrasses me and I offer no excuses. These "horse snobs" have obviously chosen to ignore the consideration you showed by pulling over and even turning your vehicle off. Because horses are flight animals and easily spooked, I try to avoid ATVs whenever I can. But when I can't, the vast majority of my encounters with motorized vehicles are positive although, if I'd had a camera, I could have documented one occasion when I was verbally threatened by a ATVer for merely attempting to stay away from him. People are good and people are bad. I'd prefer that we didn't blanket-judge each other based on isolated incidents. Mutual respect is important for the safety of all of us. Thanks for the consideration you attempted to extend.
Hi Bryan Krussow, this is quite an old video and I'm happy to say I still pull over and kill my engine for horses and I'm also careful if I see a dog off the lead. I don’t get out as much as I did but I don't usually have any trouble and on the whole everyone is ok.
I am a horse rider and what you did was extremely considerate even turning the engine off if that had been me i would have thanked you greatly !!!!!! i hate rude riders makes us all look bad :(
I know. My horse would have freaked out at the vehicle too, but the driver did everything he could too reduce the horse reacting badly. I would have been ever so grateful to him.
She can't handle the horse
@@c3pno very true I sadly just lost my 2 old boys both 18.2 hand draft horses almost 30 yrs old I'm heartbroken more groundwork is needed with her horse
No, no it fucking doesn't. You people need to stop with generalization of people that do certain things. Shit people exist in all forms. Rich, poor, in the middle, bicyclist, drivers, pretty much any activity, cultures, skin tone, ect. It's a human thing and nothing else.
@@absolutelyfookinnobody2843 really?
Yes people come in all shapes and sizes. But stupid is commonly found in all . What was this quad rider supposed to do turn around and leave? Or I get it now my bad he was supposed to build a wall before the horse got to him so that the entitled goat on the horse could see him. Yeah that's it.
You did the right thing!! As a horseback rider, I am so sorry you had to have a rotten experience like that! Why can't humans just give each other common courtesy no matter what they're riding or driving??
Alissa Hollar, that's the way I see it too. Thanks, ride safe.
You're right....I think she just lashed out because she was embarrassed that her horse got spooked and wouldn't walk on. Some horses get like that - they spook and stop dead in their tracks. They won't go unless another horse goes in front of them. They are herd animals dependent on instinct. The rider might not have done anything wrong regarding the fact that her horse didn't want to cooperate BUT her rudeness is NOT acceptable. It's because of people like this that the rest of us get a bad name. :-/ I am not a snooty tooty rider. I used to ride for hours every week and taught kids. Now, for several reasons (one being health) I only ride casually but BOY we still tear it up :-D Riding should be fun - damn this snobbery.
What did the rider say? I didn’t catch it.
Alissa Hollar very good comment!!!
As a horse rider myself, I would have thanked you for being so considerate, very kind of you to cut the engine and wait till they have passed a fair way before restarting. Very naughty of them to give us all a bad reputation!
Those motocross riders were more considerate
@@jrs665 😂😂
If her horse is nervous around motor vehicles she should stick to bridleways (of which there are many) not Byways open to all traffic (of which there are few). Part of the problem has been the relentless closure of byways leaving fewer to drive/ride for those that wish to and therefore increasing traffic on them.
You acted perfectly, stopping, turning off your engine, the whole shebang.
The problem here was clearly the rider, judging by her seat, how she held the reins, and her poor communication she's a new rider and thus it's hardly surprising she wouldn't know the rules.
All the cred to you for acting exemplary!
Em A Viking, thanks for the comment. I like to think I'm getting my fair share of the country side without spoiling anybody else's enjoyment.
+Em A Viking I tots agree, but the bay horse looked nervous, some horses get nervous by tires on the front of cars or just cars themselves, the rider was probably a bit fearful of the horse turning and making a run for it, I know I get nervous when my pony get's nervous but yes the rider should have maybe given herself a talking to to say she needs to be calm and then the horse would be calmer. :)
Busiest green lane in Britain..
You got it right on the nose, all other byway users learn to read maps (because we always check where we can go), except for horse riders who seem to think they own the byways. I've had a lady charge me with her horse when I was on a bicycle.
If that was me, I would have been trying to spook her horse. Pfft, charge at me with your flight choosing beast. I'll send ya to the hills.
@@snowflake2910 Bloody hell this was from 4 years ago, thanks for the reminder! Easier said than done when the horse is taller than you and I'm 6' 2".
What was her issue with you using a bicycle?
Poor horse. That's a lass who likes a pie....
You did a great job getting out of the path thank you for taking caution around horses
It’s a shame some people are that selfish they don’t want other to enjoy the great outdoors.
Good on you mate for doing the right thing.
Sorry fact is this horse has his own God-given but then again another horse's azz upon his back.
@@Bix06068 I got a hernia trying to read that 😆
As a horse rider I’d like to thank you for being considerate. Judging by the way she’s holding her reins and her seat, I’d say she’s a novice rider and shouldn’t be hacking out in an area known to have bikes on a skittish horse. Riders know their horses and so if you have a nervous horse, just don’t ride it in these areas
Well said, we have horses & wouldn't dream of taking them on the lanes. We also have bikes & do take them on the lanes, we have witnessed far worse from horse riders than this. There are far to many people out in public that don't know how to handle horses, it is a recipe for a very nasty accident!
The problem here is a young, untrained horse. You see it follow the other more experienced horse through. Nothing else you can do as a driver or motorcyclist than stop and turn off your engine and wait for the horse riders to sort themselves out.
Hi Blacktiger, I personally think the problem is the angry Woman on the untrained Horse. We were quite happy to wait, she copped the arse cos she couldn't make the Horse do what she wanted. I guess she didn't have a great deal of experience either. I actually admire people who ride, you would never get me up there, I don't like the idea that you can't disengage the clutch or put the brakes on whenever you choose!
pcezar1 lovely comment I have an 18.2 hand horse hes wonderful on the roads ect scared of tractors though bless him and thankfully he has good brakes i agree she did not handle the situation perfect nor is she a fanstastic rider she was incredibly rude she was embarrassed so took it out on you !!
angiebeanfuls paranormal adventures, we are all out there to enjoy the country side and need to be able to look out for each other. Some 4x4 drivers and motorcyclists let the side down too.
angiebeanfuls paranormal adventures, we are all out there to enjoy the country side and need to be able to look out for each other. Some 4x4 drivers and motorcyclists let the side down too.
No its the stupid barn witch for not properly sacking out her horse. Then take it out on the nice man in vehicle, he was just being nice and courteous. How annoying for stopping all the time.
You can clearly see the one in pink is far to heavy for that horse and the horse is not happy with her on it
You where spot on mate you couldn’t have done anything more
Wish I experienced more bikers like yourself when I had my horse. Every other one I met either didn't stop, revved their engine or yelled at me for being on the cycle track. When a horse spooks like that it's the rider's responsibility to keep a level head and assess the problem. The woman on the piebald horse had the right idea. Be calm, let the horse have a good look and let him walk past when he wants to. The worst you can do is tighten up and pull the reins like the woman on the bay did. It gives the horse signals that you're scared too which is not what you want. Again, the woman on the piebald was right in going first as her horse looks older and more experienced which would help the younger horse. You did the right thing though, it was all on the rider.
Rumble Delta, thanks for your message. I feel we are all out there to enjoy ourselves so should be able to use the country side without spoiling other people's pleasure.
Can I ask why you watched and commented on such an old video? It is getting a lot of veiw and comments all of a sudden and I don't know why, thanks.
Haha, I don't know. It just showed up on my recommended feed and I gave it a watch. If I had to guess I would say it is because a lot of horse people on YT watch a guy called Rick Gore who talks a lot about natural horsemanship and does have videos about horses encountering motorbikes so I suppose that's where a lot of people are coming from.
Like any animal, horses pick up on the rider's cues and attitude. She was obviously bristling as soon as she saw the Landy, therefore the Horse interpreted it as some sort of danger. It's the same with idiots who shouldn't own Dogs. They get stressed, which stresses the dog out which stresses the owner out etc. etc.
Have to say that you did everything correct and wish more drivers showed such consideration. Can only apologise for that women, yes she had a nervous horse but that is not your fault and it's her responsibility to try and train it to overcome that problem not yours. Also there is excuse for rudeness.
Hi Miguel it starts in three
mile cross off the Baisingstoke Road and runs along side the A33 in Berkshire. Looks like it's in the middle of nowhere but has a busy very road one side and quite a large housing estate the other.
Difference between a horse and a motor vehicle? One can get you to and from another place without having to shit on the road.
Hiya from Kaitaia, True that, very true. You could say;
Difference between a horse and a motor vehicle? One can get you to and from another place without having to dump highly toxic carcinogenic shit from the exhaust, off the brake pads, flying out of various engine seals. Both would be correct.
Hope you and your equine friends are keeping cool in this heat :)
"apart from all the highly toxic carcinogenic shit coming out the exhaust, off the brake pads, flying out of various engine seals eh?" ...so how do you travel to and from your horse riding areas? ;-)
shame the woman on the brown horse didnt know what she was doing
Or perhaps her horse was young and highly-strung and out for a training hack ? The fact that the other horse/rider quickly took the lead indicates just this. Horses aren't cars. If they aren't behaving, it doesn't mean the "driver" is a numpty.
You did the politest thing you could have done. Thank You! The equestrian, on the other hand, should probably take her horse back to ground basics if she is going to insist on riding where her horse is easily spooked. Just my humble opinion.. 😉
I also am a horse rider … the issue was the not in control scared horse and not you … love it when people project their own issues onto others ..
I would have thanked you. You were very considerate.
I have to admit that i find it very annoying when i come across horses whilst greenlanig, as we have very few places to ride legally and there are far more bridal paths then green lanes. But what gets to me the most is when they shout "slow down"!! or "my horse doesn't like noise"....... Then why bring it to a ROAD where the majority of the vehicles are offroad motorcycles or loud 4x4s ? We may never know
Half the time we have to use roads or byways or green lanes to get to the bridleways. No horse rider ever enjoys having to go out in traffic.
What's so hard about slowing down for a few seconds to let us pass?
Bridal ways might be more by number but most are heavily fragmented. We often had to use roads or greenways to get to the next section of bridal way. I don't agree with being rude, good manners never harmed anyone. The driver in this clip didn't nothing wrong and went out for his way for the rider. It's a shame selfish rude people ruin it for everyone.
I'm sorry but personally known as a horse owner if I was out and about and there was motorcycles and people well my horse better damn well get used to it is all I have to say in this day and age where in the world do any of us have to go so place like this why can't everyone enjoy it horse people get your horses used to everyday life and that means automobiles motorcycles dogs etc etc
BUNDYS BLADE For fuck sake turn off your engine then walk until u have passed jesus
@Em A Viking he had stopped the car and engine how much slower do you want lmao
Well I'd hardly say it was a "massive chip", she said one sentence, and then moved on.
It was one sentence to many and not the correct one even then!, the only words that should have left her mouth should have been " thank you very much!"
@@glockeva1 tiny chip then
@@onastick2411 agreed
I've been riding horses my whole life and if I would have come across someone and my horse would spook it would be my fault obviously this lady needed to do more groundwork before she ever got in the saddle for her to blame someone else for her problems that's pretty stupid there is the problem she needs to realize she doesn't have control of the horses feet
And they didn't even say thank you. They also need to take a riding and road safety test.
She had a scared horse and it in turn freaked her out. She's not a confident rider.
Absolutely did the correct action. If was riding I would have thanked you for being a considerate driver. The track is a BOAT so all are entitled to use it.
Yup, even if you don't ride, most of us know how respectful and considerate this is around horses.
You da man on doing what we all should alway strive for - consideration for people you don't even know.
Thanks from the rest of us. //ji
Best comment on this old video, thanks 😁👍🏻
@@pcezar1 yeah, even the horses are probably dead now. //ji
Whenever I see a horse rider be it on my motorcycle or truck I slow down or even stop and shut off my engine and I have yet to meet a rude horseRider , they are most grateful and really friendly u must have met the exception
When I had horses, I trained them to trust and respond to me as their leader. I would have welcomed any encounter with you on your day out, moving or not. In doing so, I was able to develop the skills of my animal to not be afraid if a less confident rider like the one shown tensed up and tightened the reigns. The properly trained animal tells the rider “don’t worry about it, I got this” 😊
I live in a rural area and we have horse riders round here, there's one woman in particular that when you meet her even before you get close she starts flapping her arms about to slow you down and as she does that those panics she can't control it, then when she finally passes she she starts ranting, one of these times she's going to get a gob full, I can't stick the bloody woman
I'm more gobby if I'm on my mountain bike or walking the dog, I try to be the perfect ambassador of off road drivers and riders cos we have more than our fair share of dickheads. Back in my early days of off roading I know I did a few things that I wouldn't do now but I wasn't totally offensive.
+ Bundy's Blade
I don't have a problem with anyone who is happy to share the lanes but it's the few who think it's their given rite to have sole use in 100% perfect conditions, unfortunately most of them are sitting on the back of a horse ; )
keep enjoying the countryside & thanks for the comment.
Most horse riders thank motorists for being thoughtful.
You just know it was gonna be the porker that complained, eh !
Clearly she was embarrassed because she couldn’t control her horse, and that is what most horse riders are all about anyways, control & entitlement - aggression in many vehicle confrontation starts with one party being embarrassed. Sometimes even the most considerate party can’t do enough to please some people.
Did everything right down to a T. Good lad
She was not in control of her mount, she reacted because she was embarrassed.
Most horse riders are always thankful for pulling over and acknowledge you for doing so. I live in a horse racing town ,where there are some of the most arrogant stable lasses and lads who thing they rule the roost just because they're sitting on a prized race horse ,their manners seem to disappear as so as they mount the nag. I realise if you live in a place that has over 2000 racing horses you can not avoid them, however instead of trying to light your fag,talk to someone on your mobile phone or chatting about your weekend exploits , consider the people sitting in a line of traffic needing to get to work.
To be fair, this is an area for recreational use now. New paved roads provide better access for normal traffic. However these routes are for everyone to use and I think we just need to be respectful to other users. I don't know anything about horse riding (apart form I don't want to try it) but some people have commented and said she's frustrated and possibly embarrassed by her lack of riding skills.
There's always one. Had switched off your engine and waited for them to pass.
Well that was 4 and half minutes of my life I won't get back !
I’m a rider but I agree that she did know what she was doing. She was probably a new rider as she was pulling her reins side to side making the horse confused but u handled it very well
Thanks Erin. We're all out there to enjoy ourselves, and I'm trying not to get branded as an idiot or give vehicle users a bad name. We do get a fair amount of stick for using our rights of way but like everything it only takes a few abusers to upset everything and give everyone a bad name.
pcezar1 sorry in my paragraph I put “she did know what she was doing..” I meant to put didn’t. My mistake!
I waited 3 and a half minutes for that.
One of the joys of being out in nature is the peace and quiet of the countryside.
When they make *silent* 4x4s, then I won't have a problem with their invading the countryside. The fact that their presence on rural byways is legal just shows that apparently a majority of modern humans no longer have any real appreciation for the peacefulness of undisturbed nature.
You can't go anywhere these days without being bombarded by constant noise -- either loud engines, "music" or TV, etc.
Nature *was* our last refuge -- before the invasion of legal 4x4s.
This is a great video and shows everyone can share these lanes together. Your driving was very safe and considerate as were all the other people using this byway including the walkers whos dogs well behaved, and I never saw that you were causing any problems at all, the horse lady had no reason to talk to you like that.
Don't you know, they think they are a cut above everyone else
I think you’re awesome for being considerate I like trails like this are available to people so other areas in nature arent getting tore up and looks like people are going safe speed I dont think he should have any reason to bitch some people just want the entire trail to themselves
Thanks, I try to act as I would like other people to when out on the lanes. I want to be able to enjoy myself without upsetting other users.
I think I must just be unlucky, I was mountain biking at the weekend and a horse rider had a go at me for not calling out a warning and that I was creeping up on her. I did point out that I was riding up hill and trying to catch my breath before I caught up with them.
Well, i must admit i don't like 4x4 or any kind of motorized transport in a calm forest. But i also agree with the person posting. As long as he show respect to a horse rider or dog walker by either pulling to the side and/or killing the engine, he has as much right to be there as any one else on an all trafic way.
You remind me of my father. didn't like playing paintball as it was shooting at a person, but enjoyed having my friends play and stay at his rural property.
Beautiful Greenland where is it please ? Thank you
She shut her trap fairly quick , well done .
I live in the southeast area of the United states, I own just a few acres, but nearby friends own anywhere from 85 to over a hundred, and this is why none of us, let no one but close friends use the land. People are rude and ridiculous.
For 20 years I walked and snowshoed logging roads and trails in the woods of Northern Minnesota. Very few were restricted to foot traffic. Those were clearly marked and usually gated. The ATV riders totally ignored the signs, drove the trails in Spring leaving deep muddy ruts. Subsequent ATV's would try to ride around the water that would collect and eventually it became a small pond. If it did dry out, with vegetation I could not see the ruts and ruined my ankle on the deep ruts. 99% of the trails are available to ATV's, but they HAD to ruin the only trails that were restricted. I do not have a high opinion of ATV's or their rider, and they had no respect for me or the trails.
Bet it different when she driving which I am sure she does living in the middle of nowhere. The problem with people like this is they get a beautiful, spirited animal which they can't handle properly and it is everyone else's fault
There are so many of these videos from Great Britain that it makes me wonder, beyond the signage that states "byway open to all traffic" if there is signage and/or training on the etiquette triangle (*as it is often referred to here in the States), in regard to which user-groups have the right of way over others.
As stated by others though, it seems like you did the exact right thing, in this case, yielding to all other users politely and correctly.
@Thomas Nichol I think you misunderstand me... I realize no user-group has priority over another as far as access - what I was referring to was the etiquette or polite way to yield the trail to others when they meet head on or pass one another.
Here, we do the following: Everyone yields to horses, wheeled vehicles yield to foot traffic (human feet or animal feet), motorized vehicles yield to non-motorized, and four wheeled motorized traffic yields to two wheeled motorized vehicles. Downhill travelers of the same type yield to those traveling uphill.
Generally speaking trails are normally not open to motorized vehicles, so we end up with three user-groups (horses, hikers, and bicyclists) and use the "etiquette triangle" system.
It isn't fool-proof, nor does it adequately account for all situations (like faster moving users passing slower moving users traveling in the same direction), but it is a helpful set of baselines that serve to quell many frustrations and/or problems (*that your byway system seems fraught with).
I ride, you were polite in act, she was embarrassed on her horse balking, and spoke in spite. She should have used it as a schooling moment, got the horse to obey then thanked you for you patience. Assholes abound even in natural areas.
When I was younger we used to have a saying out inthe rural area I live, never,ever,date a horse girl, because they all act exactly what you saw here
Ha, funny. I did, she was.
Go out for a walk or ride down a narrow dirt trail in the woods and there always seems to be some fuque blasting through
on a motor vehicle or motorcycle
This was filmed in England Bill, all the trails shown are classed as roads, have road names and are clearly marked on maps. As unpractical as it is most are also national speed limit (60 MPH) although it would be highly unsafe to try and go that fast.
@@pcezar1 Yeah, I get all that. On that same note it's like being deposited on the dark side of the moon and off
in the distance you see a group teenagers on dirt bikes approaching you. While I'm being a bit facetious the situation
in reality is just about as bad here in the US - on any and every hiking trail or dirt path through the most remote and
impassable areas you can't venture out without getting beset or terrorized by motorbikes, ATV and such.
@@clambroth1923 Get a Pistol.
As a horse rider I think you did ALL the right things! Like that woman should be grateful that you were considerate and didn't revv the engine or speed past her. Horse riders have a right to be on their but you do too! Really sorry about this ungrateful and foul woman's attitude! And plus if she tightened up her reins and didn't boot her horse massively with loose reins, let him/her look at 4x4 the horse would have been ok
She did not have a massive chip on her shoulder. She had a mass of rock between her ears.
Tempted to think, the only thing she should be riding is a rocking horse. Map reading would have shown it was a by lane track, most riders would welcomed the driver shunting down the engine.
Mate you behaved perfectly, as a horse rider and a motorcyclist I can tell you that horse men are much more realistic and reasonable than horse women, I avoid them!
These link lanes were not designed for rusty old landrovers driven by hairy drivers with skidded underpants .
Wow, welcome to the party. Your only 4 years too late 🤣
@@pcezar1 Yes been in prison out for Xmas.
@@bertiewooster3326 🤣
Aww poor lady felt dumb because the horse was controlling her.
One thing I notice at the state park by me, is that no one picks up after their horse. It’s disgusting and classless.
I always turn off the engine and lights when horses are about. To be fair most horse riders are courteous
Definitely, really think she was just having one of 'those' days. And there's plenty of prats around, normally walkers to be fair 😉
yeah no you did the completely right thing. She just couldn't handle that size of horse maybe she should be on a pony instead. She didn't even reassure the horse gosh people these days are so rude. Ive had experiences where the driver was a complete dick and left the engine on and even beeped but you thank you. You know how to actually drive a car.
On a pony 😂😂😂
+Shauna Earl what’s funny?😂
Megan Western
It’s funny because this person thinks that just because a Pony is smaller means it’s easier to handle😂😂
yup, smaller definitely means easier to handle.... It's funny though, all the little ponies I've ridden were absolute shits while the larger horses were far nicer... I think the only upside is that if you fall, you don't go very far XD
+Sophie_ Nicole Oh sorry I didn’t see what you meant. I agree with OI though the bigger horses I’ve ridden have been so lovely but all of the times bar one that I’ve fallen off have been 13.2 or under. Definestly doesn’t mean easier to handle its temperament not size
I’ve had jerks blow there horn when they come up behind me. This driver was a gentlemen. The rider is the jerk this time!
I live in america so I don't know what people mean half the time in the comments, by bridal way etc, if you know there's going to be loud vehicles, dogs etc, get your animal/s use to it. EVEN if you have to cross the road for a second a horse should be able to be okay with cars. I know horses can be unpredictable but don't take it out on a vehicle owner either, I had a tb he could be fine with something one second and the next he'd be spooking, but I was able to control him easily so that's just my opinion edit: I think you did well, even if my horse is freaking out here in am people usually keep driving by, dont get me wrong though im use to it and it works out that way, easier for me anyways lol, Where my grandparents use to live everyone was respectful, riders and vehicle drivers.
City cowgirl, Hi!
Here in the land of small and quaint we have lots of restrictions as to trail use, marked on good maps and should have a sign post at start and end. Footpath - walkers only, Bridleway - Horses, cycles and walkers, Byway - anything that is legally usable in public. There are some other dirt tracks that are driveable but it gets too complicated. As an off road vehicle user I am very limited as to where I can go legally, non vehicle users have more choice but unfortunately still cop the arse when they come across a vehicle on what is essentially a highway. I'm insured, taxed and fully legal with every right to be there, I go out of my way to be respectful but still have to endure this attitude from others.
They will never put me off because I enjoy the trails and getting away from the normal traffic, even in a vehicle you see an amazing amount of wildlife. Thanks for commenting.
Hi Pcezer, would it be ok to feature your clip in a stupid/angry ppl vs bikers some
time? It would be credited in the description and comments sections.
Thanks, MM.
Moto Madness
Hi, yes you can use it. Thanks for asking.
Awesome, thanks mate. Will msg back here when I use it :)
Hey man, check out Stupid, Crazy & Angry People Vs Bikers 2017 | Road Rage "THIS IS MADNESS!" with your clip featured. Thanks again! :) MM
Moto Madness
Cheers dude, will check it out later thanks for the heads up.
The way some of these horses get spooked, they should stay in the paddocks !
If a horse person gives you lip, simply fart or clap your hands and watch the broken collarbone show!
Just 'cause she's got a spooky horse.... she should train it more :D
Some years ago we were walking along a very narrow green lane, a section only wide enough for one persons width because the undergrowth encroaching in severely, in the distance we saw a 4x4 ploughing down the lane towards us, it wasn't until the last metre the driver decided to stop, it scared the living jesus out the missus & me, so I bloody well told him so, all we got back was a load of abuse and he didn't give a flying fuck about our safety, he hit the horn and drove his shitty 4x4 further into the undergrowth and went around us both, knocking over small trees/bushes/ivy, leaving a wake of destruction as he went away, as we continued to walk on the very narrow section of lane it was awash with torn down shrubbery, which became hazardous for us to both walk along.
As the lane got a bit wider it was walkable again, we both said together ''thank god for that'' but since this incident we no longer walk on such lanes in fear of being killed by a nutter.
There comes a time when green lanes shouldn't be used by 4x4's, just common sense not to travel on such narrow areas, especially when councils have built up banks to stop vehicles from accessing such lanes, I'm surprised no 4x4 has never killed anyone.
I'm sure somewhere someone has been killed in such a situation. Unfortunately you get all sorts of dickheads in this world. I personally would quite happily drive down overgrown lane's, the land owner is actually ment to keep the undergrowth back and also responsible for removing fallen trees. I drive a lane near me that doesn't get a lot of use and becomes very overgrown to the point I find it hard to get through on my mountain bike if I'm on the route, so I will go and drive it a few times to make it passable. It has a six foot width restriction either end one of which is actually much narrower than is real world six foot but it's still a road with a national speed limit but you need to be responsible and expect other traffic, foot or wheeled. I wouldn't let 1 instance stop you from getting out on the byways just remember it's a road, there's going to be some traffic. Unfortunately everybody has too many rights now and not enough people have enough common sense to work out when to apply them. You can stand in the middle of the road shaking your fist at the traffic, you have right of way as soon as you step of the kerb, it doesn't mean your not going to get run over!
Next week "A leaf falls off a tree in the wrong direction" the daily stresses and torments of country life are never ending.
Hi, BaddaBigBoom - country life would be a dream but here next to the busy A33, 2 minutes out of Reading (a town not something you do with books) probably a leaf drop would be tolerated, even by a horse!
These lanes are not in the backside of nowhere, most are accessible from A or B roads not out the back of beyond. I think of myself as lucky that I have so many places to enjoy and give me the illusion of being in the middle of nowhere. In truth to the right of the shot with the horses just through the trees is a petrol station and builders merchants and then the A33 dual carriage way.
I know Reading, I have driven through it many times. Compared to where I live though, it is still carrot crunching territory ;-) I'd stick to the A33 if I thought I might get wound up by some silly tart on a horse.
Just showing the elite in there perfect environment, unfortunately it happens all to often and I don't see why the vehicle users always get the bad rep, it takes all sorts. I just wanna get out there and enjoy it.
AH ...now we've nailed it! It's a class issue.
BaddaBigBoom, Nah it's a don't try and treat other people like shit issue. You don't have to be class to have a horse and manners cost nothing 👍🏻
Unfortunately there are some equestrians who feel overly entitled and will ruin everyone's day. You did everything right, she was just being rude.
if the horse gets spooked from a turned off vehicle it needs more desensitization to public encounters
Looks like even period pains ride horses.
It was that woman talking. I thought it was a horse fart.
🤣
Never seen a cow ride a horse before.
Lightweight? Ive had this several times, often telling me I’ve no right to be on the track, my favourite is when they tell me they’re going to tell the land owner, which is me.
Yes it's a lightweight, still got it. We haven't been out so much recently, the wet weather and traffic are affecting the local lanes quite badly. Got a few that are closed to be able to recover but it just means more traffic on the open ones. I did the lane that runs alongside the A33 near Reading recently in my Rangie and it was a mess, people have started making divesions into private land. Won't be long before that gets closed too. We are starting to run out of places to go unfortunately.
I've came across lots of idiots like this over the years.they always seem to think byways belong to them and that vehicles dirt bikes etc are not allowed..as you said.try actually reading a map👍
Any good rider would have used that as an opportunity to train their horse. It was spooky and kind driver shut off vehicle. Bad horse rider blamed driver when actually they should have allowed horse to smell and check it out.....
Couldn’t have been more polite
If you went 4-wheeling in the mall parking lot you might see less people
Very courteous driving sir, what was her problem?
I am always baffle by horse riders like that, she should have decent knowledge of the rights of ways, given her hobby. My recent encounter with a horse rider was very polite as shown on my channel. She should be held to that same standard when it comes down to knowledge on rights of ways. I suspect she knew that legal status, and i would expect this is not her first time riding on the byway, nor her first encounter.
Yeah, I had the same feeling. Angry that she couldn't get the horse to go where she wanted it. Glad she took it out on me and not the horse to be honest. She's probably the type of person who would punish their dog for having an accident in the house while she was out.
So we have a horse just being a horse and a quad rider being a gent. A perfect recipe to enduce an arsehole to open it's trap and spurt shit.
BootneckSA80A2, never saw any quads but if we had I'm sure the riders would have been smiling and known the classification of the lanes they were on 👍🏻
pcezar1
Is the camera not on a quad ?
BootneckSA80A2, nope it's on a jeep, has 4 wheels but it's a car.
pcezar1
In that case the jeep driver was a gent.
BootneckSA80A2 😀👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
What did she say guys?? I can't hear her, thank you 🙏
Well she was on her high horse!
The lady looked a bit out of balance on the horse and seemed to be using the reins a little to much. Nothing wrong with the horse maybe just a little spooked, but it couldve been handled better if she knew how to ride better
You did what was right. The rider was wrong
It's odd how woman+horse= undeserved sense of grandeur
OK, let me add my 2 cents worth. My wife and I travel the US with horses to trailride. Alot of times this is on shared trails (hikers, 4 wheelers, bicycles, etc). Courtesy dictates that horses have the right of way due to them being animals with a mind of their own and easily spooked. You did EVERYTHING CORRECTLY. You pulled to the side to allow the horses to have plenty of room to pass. You shut off your engine as to not spook the horses with the noise. You showed more courtesy then most do. The issue appears to be a 'green' broke horse that has not been desensitized to things it will encounter on the trails. Second, the rider appears to not have good control of her horse; she was nervous & anxious on horseback, the horse is able to sense the riders anxiousness and responses accordingly. I've had horses spook on the trail over rocks, trash, armadillos, deer, wild hogs, down trees, you name it. Conclusion: know your horses limitations on the trail and ride/respond accordingly...
We're human, make mistakes or misjudgement at times. I think she was just annoyed/frustrated that the horse didn't do what she wanted. Like you say, animals sense your fear/tension but its hard to relax when you know what's coming. I have an anxious dog so get the Idea, I just now try and walk him places he won't get stressed. Doesn't always work 100% but good damage limitation if we do have a problem.
Guys ik it looks like she didnt know what she was doing but horses are unpredictable chances are theyve never seen a vehicle like yours and instead of escalating the situation she let the more confident horse take the lead. So please dont say she didnt handle her horse because she did
Lady?...gosh that was polite!
🤦♂But you do not understand, as public access this is HERS and only hers - no one else. You were more than courteous. Being a bigger guy 6'1" 350# walking through packed malls over the Christmas holiday, dodging girls, women and children, and the elderly. Then it occurred to me, WTH, why am I moving out of their way.
Because you have good manners. More power to you.
Now that was an interesting video - or sommet...
That's fairly typical isn't it. I think she was annoyed because she was struggling to control her horse by stationery traffic. Embarrassing!!
I've ridden horses in Aus since as early as 1970.
In Aus horse riders are required to exercise adequate control over their mounts when on public roads / paths and to share with MOVING vehicles.
I lived in the UK in the mid 1990s.
I met several horse riders while driving on public roads / paths.
Without exception they ALL proved to be ignorant, arrogant 'entitled' individuals who had minimal control of their mounts.
From my experience, UK 'hobby' riders wouldn't last 5 minutes in Aus.
Unfortunately too many of us Brits feel over entitled when we're not. A bit of courtesy cost nothing but can make a world of difference.
As an equestrian, this embarrasses me and I offer no excuses. These "horse snobs" have obviously chosen to ignore the consideration you showed by pulling over and even turning your vehicle off. Because horses are flight animals and easily spooked, I try to avoid ATVs whenever I can. But when I can't, the vast majority of my encounters with motorized vehicles are positive although, if I'd had a camera, I could have documented one occasion when I was verbally threatened by a ATVer for merely attempting to stay away from him. People are good and people are bad. I'd prefer that we didn't blanket-judge each other based on isolated incidents. Mutual respect is important for the safety of all of us. Thanks for the consideration you attempted to extend.
Hi Bryan Krussow, this is quite an old video and I'm happy to say I still pull over and kill my engine for horses and I'm also careful if I see a dog off the lead.
I don’t get out as much as I did but I don't usually have any trouble and on the whole everyone is ok.
Why is this in my recommendation 💀