for Ableton users that can't get audio to play after turning off the transpose function (aka using chords from an external carrier). 1) the midi track needs to be empty as far as instruments go. Have your chords drawn in of course, but don't add any synths etc... because that will come from the vocoder itself on the audio track. 2) Have your midi track's output set to the audio track containing the vocoder plugin (transpose turned off). If you followed step one correctly, the 2nd dropdown menu below your output will mention Softube Vocoder as the specific output. NOTEL if your midi track has an instrument "blocking" it, the Vocoder WILL NOT APPEAR IN THE DROPDOWN output menu. 3) the vocoder audio track should not require any routing. Just your vocal's audio (or record enabled for real-time processing). Again, it should contain the Softube Vocoder with "transpose" and "midi bypass" OFF. I personally like that the vocoder has its own "generic" synth tone as finding the right carrier tone can be be challenging for some of us less experienced folks. Eg. a saw based synth behaving different than a square wave etc.... Obviously this comes at the expense of flexibility to incorporate your favorite synth textures etc for which I recommend a different vocoder. UAD should make a video explaining this explicitly because I wasted hours on this while the product is not bad. Cheers!
@@StarskyCarr The Arturia Vocoder is a keyboard, it is part of Analog Lab V, the virtual emulations of pianos and other keyboards. It is not part of your FX package.
Another great video - Thanks! Even though I still use my SVC-350 I also have/use some vocoder plugins (TAL-Vocoder, XILS 5000, XILS 201 and Waves Morphoder) which I think are really good as well … but I'd be interested in your thoughts about them
I have the xils Vp330 and wasn’t that impressed but not tried the others. TAL stuff is impressive, but I’ve not tried the vocoder. The big thing here was that sizzle that I don’t get form any other software.
Personally i think this one beats TAL vocoder hands-down. This is the only software vocoder that gets anywhere near analog. The only thing i wish they’d included was an effects mode where you could use any source as a carrier, not just the internal synth.
Out of interest, have found any good tape flange plugins? There’s an effects pedal, Zero Point Flange by Caitlin Bread which sounds rather impressive, but there doesn’t seem to be that much int terms of plugins.
Is this the software you'd recommend for vintage style vocoder sounds or better but that aggressive defined vocoder sound. I have vocalsynth and a few others and they are cool they just don't have that punchy sound.
I’ve found vocal processor software doesn’t do the straight up vocoder sound as well as this. This one’s the I my one I e used that has the high end grit of my SVC350.
while you seem to have an option to side-chain in logic, I don't see such an option in Ableton nor in Pro Tools. Which annoys me tremendously! What's a vocoder worth if you can't trigger it with midi-notes from another track? Not much to me. Writing Softube about it.
I’m 100% certain you can. Softube have a couple of videos demoing how to use it in various DAWS. I couldn’t work it out in Logic until I realised the input channels were available as side chains.
@@StarskyCarr yes, you can.. (took me quite a while to figure it out) if you put the Plugin on the Track you want to affect and send the midi-channel with the note-information to the Plugin directly. Not the most intuitive workflow, if you ask me.
I’ve got the micro Korg - I put it up against a few others a couple of years ago. I think this is much crisper and analog sounding (although I’ve not actually put them next to each other). Love the Microkorg though a great little versatile machine.
i love love love and hate vocoders - they make you talk differently, it is a real skill to talk as yourself while holding one -30 years of trying i still do the same damn thing - let the bloody keys do the tuning, arrrrggghhh somebody hit me
Worst is hearing the dry vocal… sort of almost in tune but totally horrendous. Your brain hears it in tune but you know your not so you get a hybrid nightmarish rendition.
You keep using that word, legible. I do not think it means, what you think it means. ⚔️ 😉 I too love vocoders, but rarely use them in recorded music … they are the party trick of the electronic music world; a little goes a looong way … !! 😊
Haha yeah I know it’s generally used for the written word, but seems a good way to describe what I mean to an international audience. Maybe should’ve used something else. 🤦♂️🤔
Disagree I used Orange Vocoder in a standard pop song a few years ago for someone I was recording and producing , he was a very average singer and I used a wet only signal from the Orange and played the basic midi chords on the Orange Plugin which created a nice low harmony bed underneath his main Vocal, the guy was really happy with it and at the lower volumes sounded almost natural, and yes of course if you're someone who doesn’t like Electro then it’s not for you but millions of people love the sound of Vocoders, not a party trick it’s an incredible invention.
What a crappy vocoder, so weird coming from Softube. Completely unintelligible. Couldn't understand a single word when vocoding, and that is THE most important thing in any vocoder (of course, sometimes we just want lo-fi, and that's fine, but the capability has to be there, and it's just not).
I found it better than most tbh. It's based on vintage vocoder tech, which was never very clear - this can much clearer than I'd expect. Perhaps if you've been using other types of voice processing you're not comparing like with like. Voiceboxes can be clearer and some think they're vocoders (especially when included in voice processing software) Some 'vocoder' pedals aren't actually vocoding in the traditional sense etc.
@@StarskyCarr I watched videos of the Xils Lab emulations straight after and they are SO much better, imo. They are traditional vocoders, and I also prefer orange vocoder which I already have.
Big lol. You are wild. Almost like the fucking Russians and Chinese and Iranian trolls shit talking Sweden because we're the gayest country on earth or whatever, even cutting gas and electric cords on the bottom of our sea. Was it you, was it?
This may be the best software vocoder I’ve heard. Sounds so much like vintage hardware.
I agree - it’s got a vibe.
What about doing a comparison video between this and the Arturia one? That would be a really good video to me.
Hello: Around the 14:30 mark, it sounded exactly like Laurie Anderson. Good job. Well done. Stay well and safe.
for Ableton users that can't get audio to play after turning off the transpose function (aka using chords from an external carrier).
1) the midi track needs to be empty as far as instruments go. Have your chords drawn in of course, but don't add any synths etc... because that will come from the vocoder itself on the audio track.
2) Have your midi track's output set to the audio track containing the vocoder plugin (transpose turned off). If you followed step one correctly, the 2nd dropdown menu below your output will mention Softube Vocoder as the specific output. NOTEL if your midi track has an instrument "blocking" it, the Vocoder WILL NOT APPEAR IN THE DROPDOWN output menu.
3) the vocoder audio track should not require any routing. Just your vocal's audio (or record enabled for real-time processing). Again, it should contain the Softube Vocoder with "transpose" and "midi bypass" OFF.
I personally like that the vocoder has its own "generic" synth tone as finding the right carrier tone can be be challenging for some of us less experienced folks. Eg. a saw based synth behaving different than a square wave etc.... Obviously this comes at the expense of flexibility to incorporate your favorite synth textures etc for which I recommend a different vocoder.
UAD should make a video explaining this explicitly because I wasted hours on this while the product is not bad. Cheers!
I had a similar head scratching time with Logic. But once you’ve got it it’s simple. … if you can remember that is 😬
Damn this sounds fantastic! Thanks for the video.
awesome demonstration , Starsky style !
The Vocoder V plugin from Arturia is based on the Moog 16 band Vocoder, it is really nice also, and worth checking out.
Interesting. I never knew arturia had a vocoder. I’ve got tonnes of their software but maybe having lots of hardware options I’ve just never looked.
@@StarskyCarr The Arturia Vocoder is a keyboard, it is part of Analog Lab V, the virtual emulations of pianos and other keyboards. It is not part of your FX package.
I really like the Arturia Vocoder V. I find it's a lot easier to get good results from it than most other vocoder plugins.
"More budget options like the Digitech Talker" Ever since people found out that's what Daft Punk used it has skyrocketed in value haha
😂😂 I can’t believe how little it cost me looking at the prices now.
what is your boogie wonderland preset????I just bought the plugin but i cant find the right sound
Nice, I've never figured out how to use a vocoder but now I want one.
This video might help you to get started: ua-cam.com/video/fQEzvSlxvQI/v-deo.html
Starsky Carr did an amazing job with his video as always!
Thanks for the review, wanna try it after this review 👍🏻👌🙏
The XILS 5000 is a very good Vocoder... interested how this compares.
Great tutorial! Does this allow live music, MP3 or WAV as the carrier?
Funny and informative thank u!
This sounds damn good!
Which software vocoder do you think is the best in recreating the classic talk box sound like in the song California Love?
Following
Great review. Thanx
Another great video - Thanks!
Even though I still use my SVC-350 I also have/use some vocoder plugins (TAL-Vocoder, XILS 5000, XILS 201 and Waves Morphoder) which I think are really good as well … but I'd be interested in your thoughts about them
I have the xils Vp330 and wasn’t that impressed but not tried the others. TAL stuff is impressive, but I’ve not tried the vocoder. The big thing here was that sizzle that I don’t get form any other software.
Personally i think this one beats TAL vocoder hands-down. This is the only software vocoder that gets anywhere near analog. The only thing i wish they’d included was an effects mode where you could use any source as a carrier, not just the internal synth.
The signal sounds very clean?
Out of interest, have found any good tape flange plugins? There’s an effects pedal, Zero Point Flange by Caitlin Bread which sounds rather impressive, but there doesn’t seem to be that much int terms of plugins.
Catalinbread
Is this the software you'd recommend for vintage style vocoder sounds or better but that aggressive defined vocoder sound. I have vocalsynth and a few others and they are cool they just don't have that punchy sound.
I’ve found vocal processor software doesn’t do the straight up vocoder sound as well as this. This one’s the I my one I e used that has the high end grit of my SVC350.
Does it work with non midi stuff using sidechains?
I’ve not tried tbh. Probably best to ask Softube, I wouldn’t want to misinform.
@@StarskyCarr thanks for replying ❤️
Does this have the exact sound as the UAD version?
Always, when it's clearly shares developer and just have been fitted to the UAD hardware
Cool 😎
Sounds nice. I wish they'd recompile it onto ARM and bung it in hardware
That’d be interesting.
currently on 'offer' at £74.00 (rrp £149)
while you seem to have an option to side-chain in logic, I don't see such an option in Ableton nor in Pro Tools. Which annoys me tremendously! What's a vocoder worth if you can't trigger it with midi-notes from another track? Not much to me. Writing Softube about it.
I’m 100% certain you can. Softube have a couple of videos demoing how to use it in various DAWS. I couldn’t work it out in Logic until I realised the input channels were available as side chains.
@@StarskyCarr yes, you can.. (took me quite a while to figure it out) if you put the Plugin on the Track you want to affect and send the midi-channel with the note-information to the Plugin directly. Not the most intuitive workflow, if you ask me.
It's missing a very important portamento!
Sounds a lot like the MicroKorg I had many moons ago...
I’ve got the micro Korg - I put it up against a few others a couple of years ago. I think this is much crisper and analog sounding (although I’ve not actually put them next to each other). Love the Microkorg though a great little versatile machine.
i love love love and hate vocoders - they make you talk differently, it is a real skill to talk as yourself while holding one -30 years of trying i still do the same damn thing - let the bloody keys do the tuning, arrrrggghhh somebody hit me
Worst is hearing the dry vocal… sort of almost in tune but totally horrendous. Your brain hears it in tune but you know your not so you get a hybrid nightmarish rendition.
@@StarskyCarr hearing me sing is a nightmare let me assure you
You keep using that word, legible. I do not think it means, what you think it means. ⚔️ 😉
I too love vocoders, but rarely use them in recorded music … they are the party trick of the electronic music world; a little goes a looong way … !! 😊
Haha yeah I know it’s generally used for the written word, but seems a good way to describe what I mean to an international audience. Maybe should’ve used something else. 🤦♂️🤔
@@StarskyCarr Intelligible or understandable? But I do take your point about non-native listeners … 👍🏼
@@StarskyCarr Comprehensible ..
@@kierenmoore3236 intelligible would be better -- but I kept on saying intelligibillel !! which wasn't very legible!! :)
Disagree I used Orange Vocoder in a standard pop song a few years ago for someone I was recording and producing , he was a very average singer and I used a wet only signal from the Orange and played the basic midi chords on the Orange Plugin which created a nice low harmony bed underneath his main Vocal, the guy was really happy with it and at the lower volumes sounded almost natural, and yes of course if you're someone who doesn’t like Electro then it’s not for you but millions of people love the sound of Vocoders, not a party trick it’s an incredible invention.
What a crappy vocoder, so weird coming from Softube. Completely unintelligible. Couldn't understand a single word when vocoding, and that is THE most important thing in any vocoder (of course, sometimes we just want lo-fi, and that's fine, but the capability has to be there, and it's just not).
I found it better than most tbh. It's based on vintage vocoder tech, which was never very clear - this can much clearer than I'd expect. Perhaps if you've been using other types of voice processing you're not comparing like with like. Voiceboxes can be clearer and some think they're vocoders (especially when included in voice processing software) Some 'vocoder' pedals aren't actually vocoding in the traditional sense etc.
@@StarskyCarr I watched videos of the Xils Lab emulations straight after and they are SO much better, imo. They are traditional vocoders, and I also prefer orange vocoder which I already have.
Big lol. You are wild. Almost like the fucking Russians and Chinese and Iranian trolls shit talking Sweden because we're the gayest country on earth or whatever, even cutting gas and electric cords on the bottom of our sea. Was it you, was it?