@@michaelc.309 They created a lot of things for solo-ish players, companion dungeon, they're going to create "solo raid" to allow players to see the cinematic after killing the last boss, and I'm almost sure they said that delves were also made for solo players but that you'll be able to also do them in group if you prefer, so yeah, wild I guess.
@@jzmmm Don't know whats best but I've been doing it with spellslinger frost. Tried frostfire but it doesn't have enough dps for the bosses. I can't get enough out of it for them anyway.
Waxface is tough. I found that what worked for me to finally beat him was to save my shield to tank the wax he throws at you. The poison is easy to dodge, and the fire thing you just have to run super far away. So it's basically a dance of tanking that wax and avoiding the other two. I was also playing Arcane which feels a lot worse, I think Frost and it's defensives with Healer Brann are definitely a better setup for Delves. Mind you, I only did T7 waterworks not T8.
in our derp guild of 14 ppl, only 1 have gotten a delver's bounty last 2 days so I'm convinced I was lied to and that you're not guaranteed at all to loot some during the week.
this! , ive been soling 8/9 on my resto shaman doing exactly that, using brann as cannon fodder while picking my battles and using cc and defensives its actually quite fun.
Some classes can solo easy like my MM hunter at 585 can knock out 8s easily but my fury warrior at 578 gets smacked around even on a tier 6😅 it’s strange how it’s so different for certain classes. Obviously having the pet and the damage reduction talent on misdirection helps a ton on the hunter.
It's less a case that solo delves weren't over-tuned, but that group delves were under-tuned. Average players grouping up to stomp tier 8 obviously isn't what Blizzard intended, but it has been fixed. High level delves should be difficult, given the rewards they offer.
Some extra info: I looted the map or whatever its called on my first tier 8 and didnt really know what it was and didnt use it. I looted another on my second or third but it wouldnt let me loot it because its unique BUT it did send it to me through the postmaster, so it's not lost if youre holding on to one. Though no reason not to use it.
I'm a 591 protection warrior, soloing with Brann, and a mob can farcast 1.9M hits on me from 20 yards. I've soloed everything but it takes careful pulling and full use of your class utility, as well as auction house consumables like health pots and flasks. Personally I do think the challenge itself is nice. However what I've started doing is just making a group and inviting a single DPS. The 2-man scaling is crazy easy, I can practically pull the entire instance and my health bar doesn't budge. The amount of incoming damage reduction is wild.
Blizzard listened to those who thought it was not normal for delves to be easier in groups than solo: they uplifted the group difficulty to the solo level. So now, we'll waste as many time in group than solo. So no point for a casual player to do all this crap, too time consuming for too little reward.
No, they are not. Torghast was more class-balanced because you had class-specific stuff that made the content easier. Delves aren't balanced for classes, so some classes have a huge disadvantage when doing them solo. Some delves are simply impossible atm, even if you pull every card you got in your sleeve. It seems they changed some of it but what you want to do if a boss gives you a debuff that is unavoidable and ticks for 2m every 2 sec? You're gonna die :D
I’ve been soloing t8 bountiful delves easily and then go on the internet and see people complaining everywhere all over UA-cam and Reddit about how hard they are and I’m just like “?????”. If anything I think they should keep the solo difficulty the same and make group delves harder
its because people are angry that content made for 600+ gear cant be done on 570 gear with 0 prep with low lvl brand / bad passief setup / not knowing the fights / not reading all the huge free buffs brand gives ya.
@@cymo2433i'm playing a monk prepared i know the fight but can't do t7 even if i'm tanking healing whatever i'm playing slow i have ilvl had 568ilvl now 572 doing heroics it makes no difference i'm still getting 1-2m hits total health is 5m WHEN TANK i guess it's the way i play but i've tried healing dps tank with more heal tank without heal playing slow letting bran do the job nothing works
Izen, if these maps drop in the same way for non-bountiful lower tier delves down to 5 or 6 (where guildies have confirmed drops) that could mean tier 9/10/11 maps may drop as well? That could scale up to 4/6 or even 6/6 heroic track if so
The level 8 delves are literally mostly Impossible for some specs to solo, like resto shaman, you just cannot mathematically do enough dps before your elemental and defensives run out.
im a resto shaman ive soloed all but the underkeep and 1 other. brann takes most of heat you can heal and do some side damage, better than noob groups that have no clue. i been loving the challenge and the reward. reminds me of a classic dungeon 1 pack at a time using cc and defensives.
Been enjoying solo delves on ret pally. Tier 8 is the sweet spot for me until i get higher iLvl but i actually finished two tier 9s before i realized why i was getting basically one shot 😂
I've solo'd them and got the undying achieve, but certainly it was a waste of time compared to the relative difficulty level. But it is a lot of fun, and pretty rewarding regardless! It was fun playing around with specs and making it through. To be honest if they kept the difficulty level the same, but gave more incentive to solo them, I'd be perfectly ok with the level right now. I have cleared T9, but I haven't attempted t10 yet. I imagine I don't have the ilvl to survive. I am a Survival Hunter, so having a pet realllllly changes the game for some of those hard hitting mobs.
Im liking delves so far, t8 is definitely too hard compared to when i go with just one or two others. I play demo lock though, so still doable for me. Last boss in earthcrawl took me like 5 minutes to kill even at 700k DPS sustained. I would prefer if loot was in any way "targetable" from each delve. I hate having such a large random pool of possible loot
Did bountiful waterworks and we died to wax face 5 times because his damage was so high, i did it solo without any problems on my lock. Felt like tier 4. Sometimes groups are bad.
I m enjoying delvs and was able to farm t8 delvs solo as ret pally, but with a decent grp i was able to do t10 delvs. also tried to solo Zekvir on "?" But i dont have enough burst to win this fight (ilvl 594) than i saw xaryu doing Zekvir as arcane mage on "??" With ilvl 593 and saw his dps what was atleast the double of mine, the class balancing is shit rn
It's just too bad that a decent piece of content like delves got scuffed systems that wreck casual solo players. How can they make scaling so much worse for solo players, and why did they have to keep Brann exp capped except when doing bountiful delves? The poor implementation of these systems is just a shame. Thumbs up for great videos, regardless.
Got the immortal spelunker title on my dk. Did a tier 11 with revives and 0 deaths on the board. Shit definitely slaps, especially with it confirmed that the mobs have more hp and hit harder when not in a group.
I see why you have to be fast as a youtuber with videos. This information came way too late and now its been hotfixed which turned to the complete opposite of "groups are op"
Yup, about the same for me, got a ton of guildies running them in groups and getting them, but solo hunter not one drop yet. Even did some 9s solo hunting for them.
Delve tuning is insane.. Every other mob can one shot you because their abilities do 5m damage for some reason... Not even the raid has this many one shot mechanics.. I really wanted to do delves solo.. Im Ilvl596 and the tiny nerubs who cast their tiny bolt hit me for like 40% of my HP. I am preatty sure iam on the recomended Ilvl. I would understand if it was ment for higher iLVLs but its not.
It feels rly weird to be honest we get champion-hero gear for like nothing its so easy and M0 dungeon is way harder and the gear is just trash xD im fine with it but it feels weird
I see that you have 5 lives when you start the delve. Are we talking about 5 lives per person? Because i see some people dying in your group in this video, and you ress them and it still stays at 5 lives
@@Waddictthat changed today. Every death is minus a life. Group wipe? Delve done. Also massively increased damage scaling for groups. DPS an healers kept getting oneshot. Went back to soloing them again on my tank.
Define easy, I did 6 solo as Ret before i realized about group scaling. I'd say you can do about 3 delves a bit faster than 1 is solo by just taking any random bunch of players from group finder.
@@Fnaskpojken I died one or twice each T8, took about 15-25 mins depending on delve. Just need to let Bran get aggro and tank and it's all good, some bosses were doing nutty damage so just let Bran pump the boss then assist a bit while healing. It's kinda nice having to think about kite/heal/utility instead of just doing dps rotation
i noticed solo delve being insanely hard. and group delve being easy mode zero deaths. some mythic dungeon mechanics on the other hand are insanely overtuned for m0 content.
Why do people whine about solo content being hard? It should be, this an MMO not a solo player game.. there is litreally a group finder section for delves if its too hard to solo. If you love a challenge go and solo it..
as arcane mage I can easilly solo all delves on 8 . but I always have to kite and cc casters . I mostly just go big burn each pack unless I have hero . I found it challenging and fun .although my bran is now 25 which matters
I don’t understand this logic? 1 person should be able to complete content in same time frame as a group? Like what are you complaining about? This was supposed to be a challenge for solo players. If you don’t like it….Play with other people lol. 😂😂😂😂😂😂 what an entitled opinion.
I find it hilarious how badly they missed the mark. Delves are terrible for solo players, the demographic they are for; meanwhile, high-end players are suffering through 4 of them a day on multiple alts and we all hate it. It's even more frustrating because M0 gives lower gear so you don't really have an alternative to delves and you can't spend the week practicing the mythic dungeon mechanics. If you wanna stay competitive, you HAVE to do all your delves and fill the remaining slots with M0 crap. If you don't, good luck getting in groups next week. At least, it's only one week and we won't have to delve again until next season. Right now, my guild's consensus is that delves are like Torghast but worse because they're not fun even a little bit.
This all seems like a real sh*tshow. Typical Blizzard. My choice to not play TWW Season 1 is paying off! There's too much new stuff, new systems, etc, and blizzard has a really horrible and awful track record with systems in wow. You put all that together and you have a recipe for a terrible Season 1 this expansion, just like most expansions. I remember the last x pack, dragon flight. I remember how the dungeons were horribly tuned and everybody hated half of them until some point in season 2 when they finally went in and nerfed and changed and fixed up all the problems in the dungeons. Once I see that happen with this expansion, which will probably take blizzard another few months to get it to that point, then I think it will be worth my time to play. But until then, no thanks. I don't like being a beta tester for your crappy systems that your stupid devs did not think all the way through and consider all the ramifications. I just do not want to waste my time playing content that has not been properly tuned and adjusted. We all know that the only thing that makes blizzard change anything is a massive outcrying of complaining from players. And there's just not enough complaining yet to get blizzard to fix the things that are problematic. Although this video helps a bit. You guys have fun beta testing an incomplete game, and once the lessons from the beta test have been learned and implemented by the devs, I will meet you in Azeroth. Peace.
@@riddert4966 That's true. Although I have a blood dk, so I usually make my own groups and it is no problem to run M+. but yea, wow xpacs are always the worst at launch / season 1, but things almost always are much better by the .1 patch (which is usually start of season 2)
It's literally the xpack that has the least amount of new stuff and the least amount of content in general on launch since like pandaria or wod. A few talents, delves that only mole people will still be doing next week and onwards, and that's it. Half the content wasn't close to be ready on launch, that's why it's staggered. My crew is still having lots of fun though.
Doing delves in group is minus aura.
Going in rawdoggin that delve on t8 solo is the vibe.
Something in the scaling is way off here, i sweated through my T8 delves solo but with just 1 more player its a cakewalk
Fighting for my life in cloth but its been fun
I did that solo yesterday and got my cheeks clapped. Had to swap to holy spec and let bran do the work for me while I struggled to keep us alive
Now we need a DelveIO to drive competition across this content
Oh lord 😂
It’ll be irrelevant in 1 month and no one will care about delves
Blizzard create a Solo end game content, to make it easier in groups. Peak blizzard design right there.
And it makes sense considering most players are very bad at the game and there is nothing wrong with that.
Its almost like they made solo content but within an mmo. Wild.
You realise that delves are not solo content just that they are soloable if you are good enough and play good class for it 💀
@@minecraftman509 They literally were made, because blizzard started thinking about solo players. Listen to devs carefully.
@@michaelc.309 They created a lot of things for solo-ish players, companion dungeon, they're going to create "solo raid" to allow players to see the cinematic after killing the last boss, and I'm almost sure they said that delves were also made for solo players but that you'll be able to also do them in group if you prefer, so yeah, wild I guess.
Tier 8 waterworks is the only one I haven't been able to solo yet on the mage. Waxface melted my face.
How did you soloed crazed abominations in azj kahet delve?
What spec and build is best for solo mage t8?
@@BulkersRuleZ Where you have to kill 3 after throwing pheremones? Mirror images, alter time and blink. Wait until all cds refresh and then repeat.
@@jzmmm Don't know whats best but I've been doing it with spellslinger frost. Tried frostfire but it doesn't have enough dps for the bosses. I can't get enough out of it for them anyway.
Waxface is tough. I found that what worked for me to finally beat him was to save my shield to tank the wax he throws at you. The poison is easy to dodge, and the fire thing you just have to run super far away. So it's basically a dance of tanking that wax and avoiding the other two. I was also playing Arcane which feels a lot worse, I think Frost and it's defensives with Healer Brann are definitely a better setup for Delves. Mind you, I only did T7 waterworks not T8.
in our derp guild of 14 ppl, only 1 have gotten a delver's bounty last 2 days so I'm convinced I was lied to and that you're not guaranteed at all to loot some during the week.
With my group of 3 (me included) we got 2 just yesterday, probably rng based though.
With a mate we both got it from the bone Zekvyr drops after fighting it (T8)
In T6 also happened but just one of the party got the map item.
Soloing delves really forces you to approach it like a stealth game, abusing range, heals and companion damage to cheese the fights.
this! , ive been soling 8/9 on my resto shaman doing exactly that, using brann as cannon fodder while picking my battles and using cc and defensives its actually quite fun.
did one in a group it felt infinitely harder than with just my buddy
I kinda like how solo t8 delves are especially as an assassination rogue, it’s a challenge but fun.
You can use the Delve map during the run if you forgot to pop it before the run btw.
Yep, corroborating it as well.
Some classes can solo easy like my MM hunter at 585 can knock out 8s easily but my fury warrior at 578 gets smacked around even on a tier 6😅 it’s strange how it’s so different for certain classes. Obviously having the pet and the damage reduction talent on misdirection helps a ton on the hunter.
because melee attacks hit for a fck ton, and if you're ranged with a pet you're not getting melee'd down.
It can be worse i'm playing a monk
It's less a case that solo delves weren't over-tuned, but that group delves were under-tuned. Average players grouping up to stomp tier 8 obviously isn't what Blizzard intended, but it has been fixed. High level delves should be difficult, given the rewards they offer.
Some extra info: I looted the map or whatever its called on my first tier 8 and didnt really know what it was and didnt use it. I looted another on my second or third but it wouldnt let me loot it because its unique BUT it did send it to me through the postmaster, so it's not lost if youre holding on to one.
Though no reason not to use it.
This didn't age well.
I'm a 591 protection warrior, soloing with Brann, and a mob can farcast 1.9M hits on me from 20 yards. I've soloed everything but it takes careful pulling and full use of your class utility, as well as auction house consumables like health pots and flasks. Personally I do think the challenge itself is nice. However what I've started doing is just making a group and inviting a single DPS. The 2-man scaling is crazy easy, I can practically pull the entire instance and my health bar doesn't budge. The amount of incoming damage reduction is wild.
This is what I've been doing, just inviting one dps and i just tank the whole delve.
Same. we do it in groups of 2 or 3.
Apparently mobs in solo do 3x dmg. Best is to duo it right now.
Blizzard listened to those who thought it was not normal for delves to be easier in groups than solo: they uplifted the group difficulty to the solo level.
So now, we'll waste as many time in group than solo.
So no point for a casual player to do all this crap, too time consuming for too little reward.
Delves are fine as they are. It's fun using your toons full kit and utility to get through the challenge for decent loot.
No, they are not. Torghast was more class-balanced because you had class-specific stuff that made the content easier. Delves aren't balanced for classes, so some classes have a huge disadvantage when doing them solo. Some delves are simply impossible atm, even if you pull every card you got in your sleeve. It seems they changed some of it but what you want to do if a boss gives you a debuff that is unavoidable and ticks for 2m every 2 sec? You're gonna die :D
I’ve been soloing t8 bountiful delves easily and then go on the internet and see people complaining everywhere all over UA-cam and Reddit about how hard they are and I’m just like “?????”.
If anything I think they should keep the solo difficulty the same and make group delves harder
its because people are angry that content made for 600+ gear cant be done on 570 gear with 0 prep with low lvl brand / bad passief setup / not knowing the fights / not reading all the huge free buffs brand gives ya.
Blood dk/warrior/guardian/vdh?/hunter?
@@cymo2433i'm playing a monk prepared i know the fight but can't do t7 even if i'm tanking healing whatever i'm playing slow i have ilvl had 568ilvl now 572 doing heroics it makes no difference i'm still getting 1-2m hits total health is 5m WHEN TANK i guess it's the way i play but i've tried healing dps tank with more heal tank without heal playing slow letting bran do the job nothing works
What class you playing ?
Xaryu solo'd the last boss of the Delves on an Arcane Mage at 593 item level. Was awesome to watch.
I have ez time with arcane . we did plenty damage can kite and can sustain with mane defensive . also bran does so many damage once u upgraid him
Izen, if these maps drop in the same way for non-bountiful lower tier delves down to 5 or 6 (where guildies have confirmed drops) that could mean tier 9/10/11 maps may drop as well? That could scale up to 4/6 or even 6/6 heroic track if so
The level 8 delves are literally mostly
Impossible for some specs to solo, like resto shaman, you just cannot mathematically do enough dps before your elemental and defensives run out.
Brann should be able to melt npcs
Brann does a crazy amount of damage with the right curios, more than a player at current gear levels
Not true I've done them no problem as a restom shaman, just have to take it slow and let bran do the work
im a resto shaman ive soloed all but the underkeep and 1 other. brann takes most of heat you can heal and do some side damage, better than noob groups that have no clue. i been loving the challenge and the reward. reminds me of a classic dungeon 1 pack at a time using cc and defensives.
Been enjoying solo delves on ret pally. Tier 8 is the sweet spot for me until i get higher iLvl but i actually finished two tier 9s before i realized why i was getting basically one shot 😂
I can solo all the 8's as a shadow priest. I had issues one boss, (the one with the swarm). But once I figured it our I prefer to do them solo.
I've solo'd them and got the undying achieve, but certainly it was a waste of time compared to the relative difficulty level. But it is a lot of fun, and pretty rewarding regardless! It was fun playing around with specs and making it through. To be honest if they kept the difficulty level the same, but gave more incentive to solo them, I'd be perfectly ok with the level right now. I have cleared T9, but I haven't attempted t10 yet. I imagine I don't have the ilvl to survive. I am a Survival Hunter, so having a pet realllllly changes the game for some of those hard hitting mobs.
Delves the homie that picks you up, has mcdoubles ready and brought the pregame drinks.
Im liking delves so far, t8 is definitely too hard compared to when i go with just one or two others.
I play demo lock though, so still doable for me. Last boss in earthcrawl took me like 5 minutes to kill even at 700k DPS sustained.
I would prefer if loot was in any way "targetable" from each delve. I hate having such a large random pool of possible loot
Did bountiful waterworks and we died to wax face 5 times because his damage was so high, i did it solo without any problems on my lock. Felt like tier 4. Sometimes groups are bad.
great guide! thanks
I m enjoying delvs and was able to farm t8 delvs solo as ret pally, but with a decent grp i was able to do t10 delvs. also tried to solo Zekvir on "?" But i dont have enough burst to win this fight (ilvl 594) than i saw xaryu doing Zekvir as arcane mage on "??" With ilvl 593 and saw his dps what was atleast the double of mine, the class balancing is shit rn
Not sure where you got those numbers for keys, I did everything except the high renown rewards and got 10 keys.
Had better results solo than grp so far. But delves difficulty has been patch today now its sooo hard :x
Did waterworks tier 8 on Brewmaster as 570 ilvl. Wasn't easy. Was fun
It's just too bad that a decent piece of content like delves got scuffed systems that wreck casual solo players. How can they make scaling so much worse for solo players, and why did they have to keep Brann exp capped except when doing bountiful delves? The poor implementation of these systems is just a shame. Thumbs up for great videos, regardless.
I thought delves were created with the solo player in mind, but because of the poor scaling (as you mentioned) it actually discourages solo play.
I was pretty surprised I was able to complete 4 (tier 8s) in a row on my rogue at iLvl 486 without a group. It wasn't easy though
486 Arcane mage I complete a tier 8 wasn’t too bad but not easy
@@wgwrigel1not even possible
I managed the fungal one T8 at 555 on my windwalker@@MostlyFish21
Got the immortal spelunker title on my dk. Did a tier 11 with revives and 0 deaths on the board. Shit definitely slaps, especially with it confirmed that the mobs have more hp and hit harder when not in a group.
I tried it on frosat and it felt impossible in Delve 8. Did you do it as a Blood DK? was thinking of trying it that way.
@xennori1409 yeah, I did my 8s a s blood since I do em solo
not anymore, they just hoftixed a nerf for parties
This vid aged like milk lol
I wanna play mmo with old style farming alone mode. And delves is oportunity now for me in wow. Blizzard pls dont change this.
Have You Heard of wow Classico?
@@Liffuvir ive heard but i played from tbc and dont wanna old stuffs
If you group up for delves .. KEKW bads!!!
t8's are so doable as a solo, was doing 8s no kiting on a 560 ilvl WW monk.
So what were you doing while the casters are 2 shotting you
@@richiepipes8960 LoS before getting 2 shot like a noob ?
I see why you have to be fast as a youtuber with videos. This information came way too late and now its been hotfixed which turned to the complete opposite of "groups are op"
I’ve done my 4 bountiful delves every day so far on 2 characters and have not looted this map for 610 gear am I just unlucky afff
Done so many 8+ delves and havent seen a single map
you can grouprun these? :o
32 delvs 0 maps :) love that rng
Yup, about the same for me, got a ton of guildies running them in groups and getting them, but solo hunter not one drop yet. Even did some 9s solo hunting for them.
All i get is belts and cloaks 😂 feels like a chore thorgast 2.0 daily to gear for now
I don’t think I’ve seen a single map from my delves
God. I love being a tank right now.
Something happends to the delves since yesterday. Goupd of 5 585 getting destroyed first pack when yesterday i was rushing them
they nerfed partys in delves. (pretty much super imbalanced atm)
Do a party of 3.
i do 4 daily, but no map yet? thats... interesting
Zero maps on our mains, but me and friend's alts got three in a day lol
Delve tuning is insane.. Every other mob can one shot you because their abilities do 5m damage for some reason... Not even the raid has this many one shot mechanics..
I really wanted to do delves solo.. Im Ilvl596 and the tiny nerubs who cast their tiny bolt hit me for like 40% of my HP. I am preatty sure iam on the recomended Ilvl. I would understand if it was ment for higher iLVLs but its not.
I did a 8 with 2 (dps and tank & dps and heal) and it was way easier than a full group
yes, 2 players is the cheatcode. way easier than 5 or 1 man. play DD + DD with off heal. We play ret/lock and its easy.
Yeah try doing that now after patch and get clapped xD
@@pr4zaVIDZ well tbf i made it further solo than in a 5 man group😂😂
Unless you are an arcane mage and can solo everything.
t8 still gives 616 vault that can drop tier which is heroic tier gear, still worth doing with no keys. just get 8 done a week
I've done 23 T8 delves 0 maps have dropped
Meanwhile me after 24 bountiful delves: 0 bounties 😂
I want to know how he got those curios to rank 4 out of 4. Is the secret playing 10 hours a day?
No I play like 2 hours a day and got 4 of them doing like 10 delves.
@@VDHmain okay thanks bro now I know the truth 💗
i soloed all np lmao, as dev evoker
Does Delve scale with gear levels??
No, they have set ilvl suggestions though
I’ve done 10 t8 delves and never got a map
Same...and friend got 3 while with me..
same bro, some of us dont deserve loot.
It feels rly weird to be honest we get champion-hero gear for like nothing its so easy and M0 dungeon is way harder and the gear is just trash xD im fine with it but it feels weird
You don't have to use a key to do a bountiful delve.
I see that you have 5 lives when you start the delve. Are we talking about 5 lives per person? Because i see some people dying in your group in this video, and you ress them and it still stays at 5 lives
5 lives total. If you do not release and get a res, the death does not count.
@@Waddictthat changed today. Every death is minus a life. Group wipe? Delve done.
Also massively increased damage scaling for groups. DPS an healers kept getting oneshot. Went back to soloing them again on my tank.
Lot of comments about grouping being lame for delves. Its easier and faster, i want my gear.
I am a WW monk, I solo'd all the T8 easily.... I just let Bran do all the work and heal myself haha
Define easy, I did 6 solo as Ret before i realized about group scaling. I'd say you can do about 3 delves a bit faster than 1 is solo by just taking any random bunch of players from group finder.
@@Fnaskpojken I died one or twice each T8, took about 15-25 mins depending on delve. Just need to let Bran get aggro and tank and it's all good, some bosses were doing nutty damage so just let Bran pump the boss then assist a bit while healing. It's kinda nice having to think about kite/heal/utility instead of just doing dps rotation
Wintheiser Shores
floow floor pov needed
Also we should be able to grind more keys on alts, who weren't there to stockpile 20 of them before season started.
Except I got 4 rings, and 3 belts… gg
Enh, and Frost mage I solo them
i noticed solo delve being insanely hard. and group delve being easy mode zero deaths.
some mythic dungeon mechanics on the other hand are insanely overtuned for m0 content.
I got one on T7. Its not just T8+
Why do people whine about solo content being hard? It should be, this an MMO not a solo player game.. there is litreally a group finder section for delves if its too hard to solo. If you love a challenge go and solo it..
The argument is not that the solo content is hard. It is about the fact that the scaling of solo vs grp is not balanced
The delves were made on purpose as solo content my dude, they should be doable for your average joe, atleast up to t8
The 3 610 items per week is not true. Ive looted my 5th delvers bounty this week.
then its me not a single map looted from 8-10 t8 delves all solo, jeez
Solo delves as destro warlock is legit awful , I go in a tier 8 and the trash mobs legit just 1 shot the voidwalker and run me over 😂
That delvers bounty map is a low drop rate!
Guildmate got it on our third run 😢😅
@@Famedawg boo! lol
lvl 8 as BM easy enough solo
My Brann is chronicaly dead.... He sucks.
Senger Dale
Adriel Walk
My brother got 5 maps on his character i got fucken non
They are not hard I mean come on there is no timer don't rush the whole thing low and behold you will be fine
Want weremdoes it get the treasure c
Better to pick a socket than an item on great vault, this is valid only worth for min maxers though
8xt8, 0 maps
same iv gone up to t10 done abunch of 8's zero maps. My girl got one back to back.
12xt8...1 map...I don't get how this works
Hotfixed
Wtf ist super Mario talking?
as arcane mage I can easilly solo all delves on 8 . but I always have to kite and cc casters . I mostly just go big burn each pack unless I have hero . I found it challenging and fun .although my bran is now 25 which matters
I don’t understand this logic? 1 person should be able to complete content in same time frame as a group? Like what are you complaining about? This was supposed to be a challenge for solo players. If you don’t like it….Play with other people lol. 😂😂😂😂😂😂 what an entitled opinion.
Group delves big L
I find it hilarious how badly they missed the mark. Delves are terrible for solo players, the demographic they are for; meanwhile, high-end players are suffering through 4 of them a day on multiple alts and we all hate it. It's even more frustrating because M0 gives lower gear so you don't really have an alternative to delves and you can't spend the week practicing the mythic dungeon mechanics. If you wanna stay competitive, you HAVE to do all your delves and fill the remaining slots with M0 crap. If you don't, good luck getting in groups next week. At least, it's only one week and we won't have to delve again until next season. Right now, my guild's consensus is that delves are like Torghast but worse because they're not fun even a little bit.
"Torghast but worse"
That's shocking Blizzard managed to mess up this bad lol. But ur right.
For once you won't get carried
@@싸넬동지-7성담배 Yeah my 3200 io ass gets carried so much XD
You sound super fun
First.
outdated af :D
This all seems like a real sh*tshow. Typical Blizzard. My choice to not play TWW Season 1 is paying off! There's too much new stuff, new systems, etc, and blizzard has a really horrible and awful track record with systems in wow. You put all that together and you have a recipe for a terrible Season 1 this expansion, just like most expansions.
I remember the last x pack, dragon flight. I remember how the dungeons were horribly tuned and everybody hated half of them until some point in season 2 when they finally went in and nerfed and changed and fixed up all the problems in the dungeons. Once I see that happen with this expansion, which will probably take blizzard another few months to get it to that point, then I think it will be worth my time to play. But until then, no thanks. I don't like being a beta tester for your crappy systems that your stupid devs did not think all the way through and consider all the ramifications.
I just do not want to waste my time playing content that has not been properly tuned and adjusted. We all know that the only thing that makes blizzard change anything is a massive outcrying of complaining from players. And there's just not enough complaining yet to get blizzard to fix the things that are problematic. Although this video helps a bit.
You guys have fun beta testing an incomplete game, and once the lessons from the beta test have been learned and implemented by the devs, I will meet you in Azeroth. Peace.
well u either beta test since the start (11.0 launch) or you start playing in 11.0.5 / 11.1 and don't get a single invite for m+ and raids rip
@@riddert4966 That's true. Although I have a blood dk, so I usually make my own groups and it is no problem to run M+. but yea, wow xpacs are always the worst at launch / season 1, but things almost always are much better by the .1 patch (which is usually start of season 2)
You do realize most people were complaining about this expansion not having enough new stuff so you definitely aren’t right on that point
It's literally the xpack that has the least amount of new stuff and the least amount of content in general on launch since like pandaria or wod. A few talents, delves that only mole people will still be doing next week and onwards, and that's it. Half the content wasn't close to be ready on launch, that's why it's staggered. My crew is still having lots of fun though.
Groups are OP? Wash your mouth out with soap.🧼