Checking out some early 2000s systems. They were running a radio station!
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Three systems all built into the same case just begs me to tear into them! Let's see what we can learn about their history!
0:00 Intro
System 1:
0:20 System 1 Tour
1:23 S1 Disassembly and inspection
5:09 S1 Refresh and PSU test
7:44 S1 Save the data!
10:15 S1 OS tour and verdict
System 2:
14:19 System 2 Tour
14:51 S2 Disassembly and inspection
17:23 S2 Refresh and PSU test
19:23 S2 Testing and verdict
System 3:
22:57 System 3 Tour
23:45 S3 Disassembly and inspection
26:30 S3 Refresh, testing and verdict
31:31 Outro
The damaged component on System 3's motherboard was identified - Thanks Edmond! It is actually a Schottky diode, not a capacitor. Seems that searching part numbers with date codes really throws Google off the trail... Wondering if that's all this board needs. Since it went short (tested in both directions) that's probably bad news for the components it's protecting... Here's the datasheet: www.diodes.com/assets/Datasheets/B320B-B360B.pdf
Seems it has something to do with the memory power. So memory might be flaky without it which would explain the mainboards behaviour for sure.
I would give it a try. The board had a long life and came back from the dead already but is pretty much useless like this. I guess there's not a lot to loose at this point.
its very much part of the memory power rails. and yes, it not being that almost certainly impacts the stability.
generally the diodes and transistors in the power rails for memory will give up after power spikes, if the components are so-so in quality or were barely at spec on manufacturing. i've got a few boards that lost memory channels due to the power rails having a popped component. sometimes its fixable, sometimes it cooks the pcb under it so you can't replace it, as it causes it to bubble.
this one seems like its fixable.
VENUS similar to TIME, Tiny PC's we had in the UK back in 2000.
50% here for the vintage PCs.
50% here for Mike’s arms.
GAEY
I hear ya 🥵😅
What is mike's IG?
like his watch too
same 😭
I've been a PC technician for 25 years. I recently followed your channel, I love vintage PCs. I started back in 98 with an old k6II 500 at 32, being an electronics technician since I was 16. Today I'm 57 and I'm almost retired because vision doesn't She's the same and the pulse in her hands isn't either... I envy you being able to get those PCs that are impossible for the environment in my country. I imagine that they throw them in the trash over there, here they would be useful to teach, have fun learning with old hardware and I don't know how many other things... I love technology and every time a client sees that they have something like that, I bought that machine for them. I don't ask for it, mostly they give it to me but most of it ends up in the trash and nobody values it. I am from the north of Argentina and although this is not the Far West we are far from the big cities where there is more waste material to pick up on the street or something like that, they should donate those machines to the third world I would accept a few tons just for the pleasure of rummaging through them and bringing them back to life.
I currently have a gigabyte socket 1150 with pentium 3
.10 3240 with ssd and 8gb of ddr3 fury ram as main machine but I have an old pentium socket 478 with 2gb of ddr1 ram and 320 of hdd on a motherr asrock p4i65g with geforce 512 video, I also have a gigabyte with socket 370 with Pentium III 800 with unattainable 192 mb of ram and a 40 disk working with xp!!! and the last one is a compaq that I think I saw on your channel similar to 5441 this is 5423 mother gigabyte with k6II 450 15 gb disk seagate barracuda with 128 ram that cost me an arm and a leg... with a trident 9660 motherboard 8mb with xp nano and go!!!! In addition, they all enter with serious difficulties but they enter the Internet... I love these things, I regret not being able to have more $$$$$ to buy more or to donate some to me, in addition to entertainment, it is part of the recent history of technology. .
Greetings from the band, Santiago del Estero Argentina for you and I hope you continue with the channel that makes me relive many of the things that I had already forgotten and others that are revealed to me when I see you work... best regards
Jorge ledesma. Retired PC and electronics technician.
The not-so-subtle flex in every thumbnail 👌🏻👌🏻
I had a terrible night, I don't know what I caught but it took me out of it, puked, nightmares, hardly any sleep but waking up seeing your latest video in my feed definitely made my day a lot better. Thank you for that
I hope you get well soon! 🙂
Nightmares suck dude, hope that passes quickly!
@@miketech1024 thanks :)
@furious_gaming14furious_ga91 I had the same thing, clicked on this video and read this comment lol wtf
Are you calling him boring!? jkjkjkjk ❤❤
I've been on a slow binge of his videos as well because his charisma beams through the phone. It's a good feeling and something so nice, especially on a website that isn't without its heavy toxicity issues.
30:49 Firefox 48.0.2 was the last version to not require SSE2
Saw that TLC executable and my eyes shot open. TLC was the production interface for Scott Studios ss32, so machine 1 was likely used for commercial production.
Fun fact: Scott Studios was purchased by dMarc (another radio playback company) in the early 2000s, then sold to Google around 2005. Google spun them off when they realized broadcasters didn't spend money like the IT industry. They now do business under the name WideOrbit. They still support Ss32 back to version 5 today.
True that,
IT - Oooh, another upgrade, lets do it!!
Radio (and in fact many industries where IT is a tool not the goal) 'DONT TOUCH THAT IT WORKS PERFECTLY, THE LAST TIME SOMEONE FIDDLED WE DIDN'T HAVE CNC WOOD CUTTING / TUNES / ACCESS CONTROL ACROSS 4 SITES* FOR A WEEK!!' *Delete as appropriate
Yep, as soon as I saw the audio card, I knew that was an SS32 system. Sad that we didn't see the studio program; that UI was the gold standard that most everything else today is trying to replicate!
@@carterucm I detest companies that force you to upgrade when what you have is working perfectly. If it ain’t broke, don’t upgrade
@@carterucmLol I actually haven't seen that trend slot. I've seen the exact opposite if it ain't brok run it into the ground.😂 I have no issue running old systems heck all of my pcs are ancient now but I see too many companies not upgrading at all and not even bothering to service the computers they have.
Keep curling those heavy PCs Mike, tis doing wonders 😅💪
After moving some of these around, I don't even need the gym!
I'm a simple guy, I see a new MikeTech video-of-excellence appear, I click ^_^. That thumbnail tho 💪💪💪
That flex in the thumbnail
This is one of rare videos that I click because of the thumbnail, and I didn't regret watching after Haha.
Mike, I really enjoy the portions of your repairs where you utilize Knoppix. Would you consider creating a separate video in the future showcasing its features and examples of how it can be used? I think it would be handy having those in one video to references vs. tracking them down in different videos?
Heck, I think it would be cool to have reference videos for ALL the different types of repairs, actually. :)
Great idea! I’ll have to come up with some common recovery scenarios.
@@miketech1024 @OneEightZero180 This is a great idea.
I already use Linux daily on my main PC, but I'm not a terminal user :S
A video explaining how to make images, how to mount images and how to export them to another disc would be helpful.
I've heard that there is a command (don't know if it was the command you've used or not) that ignores sectors with errors and that it will only try to re-read the sectors with errors after reading all the sectors without erros, to avoid more damage on the disc.
It would also be great to know a command that could do the same to floppy drives, to backup old diskettes.
Thank you.
Yes please some of us are mostly windows users with occasional Linux live CD use.
Best looking tech guy I've ever seen! ❤
Wow, a clone case that doesn't resemble a box of razor blades. Lost count of the wounds over the years. Another awesome video Mike!
Happens all the time🤣
I LOVE your watch wallpaper! I have the same one! It’s cool to see a ton of these systems again. They were fun shopping for when they were new and fun to see again now.
Audio/video workstations are always the most fun to salvage, they usually come with some pretty interesting hardware and software components.
Such a great case for a sleeper build.
My SGI O2 came from a TV station and was used to overlay weather maps for the news and had loads of animation and GIS/GAAS software and all the data.
So cool…
Like your format. Direct, and to the point. No fluff. 👍
Noisy house incinerator i'm dead i passed away 🤣
yeah i actually laughed at that 😆
That video thumbnail=🔥 Fun video as always!
Loved this era of computers. Grew up using Pentium 2 and 3 computers at the kindergarden and later an Athlon XP which was finally my very own computer that my parents bought me. Still have that computer 20 years later. I had many other computers after it that i used and sold everytime i built me a new one but i could never get rid of my good old Athlon XP
Nice! The first system I ever built from brand-new parts was based on an Athlon XP 1800+. It felt like a supercomputer compared to my previous main system, which was based on a 500MHz K6-2. Gave me 8 great years of service until a lightning strike took out the motherboard. I almost cried... Don't remember what I ended up doing with it, but I still have the case!
@@miketech1024 Mine has a 2500+ and it was my main computer till 2011 when it got replaced by a Phenom X4 computer. In 2006 it got upgraded to 2GB RAM with a Geforce 6800 Ultra and one of those really early SATA 1.5GBPS hard drives cause the motherboard had 2 SATA ports. It served me very well till i wanted to play games like Mafia 2 and GTA 4 which the Athlon XP obviously couldn't handle anymore
Ten years ago, a friend bought 22 computers from a liquidated company at scrap price. All operational. The drives were formatted. In terms of dollars, he paid $15. I have one with XP, 3GHz processor, 1Gb Graphics, CDRW, DVD, works like new. Take care . Dziesięć lat temu znajomy kupił 22 komputery od likwidowanej firmy po cenie złomu. Wszystkie sprawne. Dyski były sformatowane. W przeliczeniu na dolary zapłacił 15 dolarów. Mam jeden z XP, procesor 3GHz, grafikę 1Gb, CDRW, DVD, działa jak nowy. Dbać o siebie .🤩
I would really hate to be a sacrificial hard drive. It's like being on indefinite death row, knowing that the end will strike at any time, or never. It's a kind of hell, it must be.
Now I feel bad for them...
I love your videos; I am a vintage PC enthusiast myself. I must say that you are exceptionally handsome as well as brilliant!
Wow that was a flashback! I’ve got so much packed into the basement that I just can’t throw away, and always mean to use them for something - and sometimes do - but with virtualization the little task machines just seem to get shoved to the side. You’re giving me an itch to tinker. So many of those 3c509’s laying around. Maybe it’s time to do some homemade routers to get that physical isolation going for the IoT and camera stuff. 😊 Thanks for the reminder and the inspiration.
Awesome cases and awesome video content here!
Everytime these old machines boot up feels like a victory!! Such joy, and when Windows finishes loading up... OMG it's like a trove of treasures and trinkets ready to be opened and be explored!! Mike got me hooked with these videos like some sort of digital scratcher. Can't wait for the next batch. 😂😂👍👍
Another week, another MikeTech video ! awesome stuff
And the day is saved once again! Thanks Mike!
Nice job. I like the way you take the repair and make it useful again.
I just love these old ols pci audio cards/interfaces
That AGP port brings back memories.
14:50
Let us take a moment to appreciate the dotted holes on the top cover of the chassis that aligned with the wall tool board.
Dude! You get some really cool gear, love your videos man, takes me back to my old 286 and XT days... Keep 'em coming man... 🙂
Sound Forge and Cool Edit Pro. What a blast from the past. I am loving your channel.
Thanks for that my weekly rummaging around old PCs
i do sooo look forward to your videos
As a fellow pc nerd i just have to say i love your channel! Just found it and have sub’d and been binge watching. I have about 30x vintage pc’s in my basement and cannot get enough!
Nice video!😁
So enjoy your videos
Awesome video!
You are so in depth with your videos, you blow jaytwocentz out of the water tbh and you compete with linus for sure. Give yourself some credit bro its deserved
Can you also link the hard drive saver/image creator module?? Looks very useful for recovering lost data!
Omg😮! Would have geeked so hard on these PC! Well, you now have a new subscribers!
This is a great video; very 'tutorial', indeed! Thank you...
Great video.
I love this channel
Always watc hyour videos completely Mike. Good stuff!
Thanks! I almost broke out the SG for this one, but this week was tight time-wise…
@@miketech1024 I understand. Doing good!
8:35 - now that I see you using Kubuntu I am now officially a new subscriber!
NIce video as usual 😀
Jeszcze mam 3 filmy , Twoje do obejrzenia . Pozdrawiam z Polski , ze Sląska . I still have 3 videos to watch. Greetings from Poland, from Silesia. Lubliniec .👍🤝👋
Dołączam do pozdrowień z Polski :)
Speaking of radio, I still have my "ADS CADET-RADIO" FM-radio tuner card. Old school 8bit ISA slot. It also had RDS and could show the names of the songs playing!
Oh my... I NEED one!
Digital Audio Labs makes (or made, not sure if they're still around) very high-fidelity audio cards for audio editing. The radio station where I started my IT career had a few cards from them, probably a generation or two older than yours. Really nice find!
It looks very interesting. Several videos back I discovered a similar card made by Yamaha that had excellent characteristics. Wish I had the time this week to make a test recording with it. The website for Digital Audio Labs is still very active so looks like they’re alive and well.
Lol I appreciate the presentation of the desktops. The first thing that I noticed is that they were evenly spaced and angled perfectly, so each looks uniform.
I've never seen any of your videos before, but that really caught my eye.
@20:10 most of the time it's not enough to swap boards, you also have to move over the eeprom/flash chip that holds information about the drive, in your case the AT27C1024 chip in the top right corner of the circuit board.
Yup. I'm keeping this drive around in the event I discover a same-revision donor drive. Hopefully the flash chip survived.
Three more cool systems for the Collection. Love the Cases . It would be great to have a video on how to use Knoppix for troubleshooting systems Thanks for the Video
WireReady is a newsroom/radio station automation software package. I have used it for years.. This appears to be a WireReady workstation. The audio card is a balanced audio interface card. Looks to be a 2 channel audio card. Enjoy!
Nice! It's too bad I couldn't get WireReady to open. It was installed to a network drive. Thanks for the info!
@@miketech1024 Check the local C drive for a WireReady or WR folder. Might have the executable in there. I do that as a backup for when the network goes away.
love what you do talk about memory lane
Great show as always
Nerds from Belgium salute YOU 🫡
I recommend not using a magic eraser unless it's to remove extremely stubborn marks. Some IPA and a microfiber towel with a bit of elbow grease can get most scuffs and stains off without sanding away the finish like a magic eraser will.
Your skills are satisfying.
It must be so awesome to get that beauty of radio station system
You are a genius, I never thought of using a guitar pick to spread thermal paste!
I see that giving faulty power supplies nicknames will become a recurring gag on this channel and I'm all for it!
i love these old computers and servers. buying them when it came out would be a great thing.
those cases are pretty cool.
Somebody really loved them AMDs .
cheaper than the intels at the time
luv it how u keep the hard drives and original fans, i hate solid state
Can we get a shot one day of all of your dangerous power supply labels together?💥
I’m sure after the collection builds up, there can be a Patreon special involving some fitting fate for all of them…
I keep the dead ones on the off-chance they have some random component I need. I think this is how hoarding starts…
It's not hoarding if it's sorted... if it's piled... if... ah crap. Yeah.😅
I wanna see all the funny nicknames lol
@@SonicBoone56 I think some of these as stickers might be a future channel merch idea.
I'd love to tag future projects with these hilariously accurate descriptions until a future repair can be completed. 😂
those chassis ae very preetyyyy
The Nvidia Geforce 2 MX400 was a great video card, I have the PCI version paired with a 3dfx Voodoo 1 in one of my retro machines.I love this UA-cam channel, I always learn something new! :)
Wow 8.26k keep it
Another great video mike😊
Dave
London uk
0:43 I see these regularly, one of my clients is a geo-survey company and it’s used for legacy arc-gis
Thanks for the dd trick with linux.
There's some quick forensic data you did note, but didn't quite mention:
In S1, "Radio Resources" This company exists
That was a OEM computer that didn't ship originally Audio interface, note which stickers were on which cards, the audio interface didn't have them.
The Audio interface card "CardDeluxe" you can still get drivers for up to XP.
So you can readily tell that the hardware was purchased from Radio Resources with the card's pre-installed, but Radio Resources got the PC itself from another supplier.
S2 and S3 appear to have come from the same same place.
Additional forensics could be applied based on the radio files to figure out what radio station it came from, but the "right thing" to do would be to wipe the drives.
Oh man, Mike the hottest tech UA-camr there is -- was there even computers in this video ;). ;)
Now I’m out here blushing in public. 😊😂
I do really appreciate the care taken to apply the TIM to the Athlon CPU. I remember dreading what I would find upon removing the heatsink on these CPUs. The cleanup job was never easy! The adding of heat spreaders to CPUs in the mid 2000s really was such an advancement that I don't think many would understand.
AMD had heat spreaders before on the K6 lineup, then removed them for the Socket A days, then added them back after Socket A. So it wasn't as much as an advancement as a return to normal.
Love your channel. Been binge watching your videos. If you like all things radio you should look into HAM radio, get your license, and get on the air. :) Heck you could use one of these old radio station systems to run some of the digital ham radio software to bring these computers back into the radio fold again...
Man, gotta love those Windows XP Login and logout sounds!
I hope you upload all the radio ads to the Internet Archive.
I always know it’s a good night when I go on UA-cam and one of your videos are on my front page, also once those sacrificial hard drives finally die it would be interesting to see the head crash inside them after all the time they’ve been run to test power supplies
Thanks! One of them is definitely scraping the heads against the disk.
Nice work on those computers. I really miss those traditional beige colored computer cases.
I always preferred the socket A heatsinks that use all 6 lugs on the socket, not just two, for that reason.. :)
Me too. That was my backup plan if this heatsink didn't stay on.
my dad works at radio station in AZ, they cleaned out their old tech and i picked up all the pcs. all late 90s stuff.
I love those radio ads
Oh radio station computers, cool stuff, Here is what they were probably used for based on the hardware/software.
PC 1: Automation/payout computer, in this case, looked to be used for playing commercials (you can throw the commercials for the day into the player and then just trigger them when needed) the multipin connector is probably a GPIO connector that you could hook to a board which had "Tape Start" buttons for triggering a NAB cartridge player. The computer would just play audio into an input on the studio mixing board, this is the "Old Way" of connecting automation to a station and I think a better way. The "New and Big Corp" way of doing automation is to have all the audio sources including the mixer board go into the automation computer and the output from the computer goes to the station's audio processing before going to the transmitter. If the computer goes down you lose the station.
PC 2: Gerenal office machine.
PC 3: Production machine in a studio, used for creating content used by PC 1, with a network share drive for accessing more audio files.
Neat finds all the way around.
I *just* bought that PSU tester.
This was a great one. I've always had a fascination with radio station operations. Even messed around with an online station myself. Wonder if it's still up?
That flip-down LiteOn drive brings back memories. Found the volume knob to have a funny placement. I think we had almost all of them at some point: 16x, 24x, 32x, 40x and 48x they were sort of the successor to the 4x Mitsumi drives you saw in like almost all 486es that had a CD drive.
I swear the only drives that work decades later are LiteOn, nothing else.
@@SonicBoone56 What about Plextor? I have a 21 year old Plextor Plexwriter PX-W4012A in my retro P2/400 rig that runs DOS to Windows 2000 perfectly.
10:00 I love how the progress bar is an optimal feature in linsux software xD Other than that, your videos are excellent :D
Btw that inaccessible boot device bsod could mean someone messed with crucial drivers such as I did with autoruns recently.
Critical process died bsod easily means windows couldn't access the drive for extended period of time(hdd light solid for well over a minute)... happens if you unplug the drive while windows is running(interestingly if you plug it back in within a minute, it will do everything windows tried to do and then work normally) or if the drive failed... like it did for me when my ssd died with some data I haven't backed up in quite a while😢
Shagging on the Boulevard!
I remember when these generic cased computers were everywhere, but seems those were sitting around for a while to have 2006 dates on them. I built a lot of Athlon XP systems so they don't excite me much but cool to see one after 20 years none the less
I really enjoy watching your videos. I wouldn't mind getting a copy of all those radio ad's would you be able to upload those?
seems kinda normal for a radio station to have 3 or 4 pcs to run. but depends on the setup. i used to be at a radio station that had 3 pcs. one that was the playback/dj one which handled all the audio stuf. a second one that was for contacting /chats/socials and general use. and a 3rd that was the broadcasting one which also seconded as a audio recorder of what was broadcasted for legal reasons. all pcs were running windows xp
Haha, I used to work at a local radio station that has only one PC that does everything. Then the PC broke down and things went silent until they found a CD player.
I know nothing about the computer systems, but for sure i know that your muscles are great
I like those cases. Lots of drive bays and two floppy bays. You can use your floppy drive in one and the other for a hot swap bay for swapping out 2.5" ssd's. That first board was a 7zx? Kt133 is pretty scarce now and that one had ISA as well. Take care of it.
Digital Audio Labs CDX-01 CardDeluxe. Remember installing them on PC's in our station, they were good and dam expensive at the time around 1000 Euros. You can pick one up on E-Bay for around 200 Euros today so don' scrap them.
WD40 is very good to clean the contact area of those heatsinks. IPA then. Works for copper and aluminium
Really cool radio station systems! The commercials 😂I haven’t heard a savings bond commercial in an eon! The second system has a shutdown voice with 2001 A Space Odyssey vibes or any futuristic show with a computer voice. I want a system that sounds like that. I want my laptop to talk like that, maybe siri too lol. I might try playing with that. This all ties in with my watching AI robot videos lol. Once again great video for my new Friday MikeTech videos tradition.
The Knoppix startup/shutdown sounds are voiced by Klaus Knopper's wife Adriane. Klaus is the creator of Knoppix.
15:20 - Fun fact about that motherboard (MSI K7T Turbo 2), you see that unpopulated header at the bottom that looks suspiciously like an ISA slot? You can solder in an ISA slot there and it will work. I have that exact same board and added an ISA slot to mine and it just works. MSI for whatever reason populated the bridge chips and support logic required for that slot to work, even though the slot is absent.
There is obviously some obscure configuration of that board where the ISA slot is present, but I've never been able to track it down.
This makes it one of the last boards that had full ISA support available. There were some later Core 2 era boards with ISA slots, but those lacked some features like DMA, so it breaks compatibility with a large number of cards.
Wow that’s amazing! In the back of my mind I was wondering what it would take to get that ISA slot working. That will definitely be done in a future video. Thanks for the info!
@@miketech1024 Just make sure you recap the board at the same time. It had terrible caps on it, especially those large I think they were 2700 uF caps that like to pop and leak. No real surprise since it was released in the midst of the worst years of the capacitor plague.
Same with the power supplies, I bet there's at least one bad capacitor in all three of those PSUs, but probably many more. I just finished recapping a ThermalTake TR430 from 2008 where every cap had failed in some manner. Shorted, open or leaked. It was worth recapping because it had a -5v rail, useful on old boards that needed it.