Still amazes me that in places like Germany and Netherlands storks are considered pests (mostly because of their abundance) and yet here in Denmark they are so rare that whenever a new breeding pair comes here its worthy of the mainstream media (not to mention that recently we got a black stork here having ornithologists up in arms in joy).
We used to be very, very happy when a new breeding pair nested. Yet, nowadays they’re quite common - I once encountered a stork whilst at a highway fuel station, it was parading in between the customers and their cars😂. And, as you may have read, we still want them, just not that close to railways…
Bociany są zależne od krów, gdy są wypasne na pastwiskach zjadają trawę i bociany łatwiej znajdują pożywienie. Gdy są zamknięte w oborach liczba bocianów szybko spada:( Dobrze to widać w Polsce. Bociany często robią gniazda na słupach energetycznych więc jesienią lub zimą energetycy przenoszą ich gniazda na specjalne platformy umieszczone na tym samym słupie. Dzięki temu bociany są bardziej bezpieczne a i nie szkodzą dla sieci energetycznej. W Polsce jest jeszcze dużo bocianów ale coraz więcej gniazd jest pustych:( Bocian kojarzy mi się z wiosną:)
For Storks to flourish not only must the catenary system be providing nesting sites the Storks see as safe, but there must be a good source of food with easy flying distance, maybe ProRail need to do a habitat survey, and/or radio collar the colonies to see where they are feeding. Part of the problem may be the drainage canals and meers that tend to pocket along side the railway routes. Clearly ProRail cannot interfere with these habitats. The answer maybe to develop a retro version of the "Heritage" catenary poles you showed us between Utrecht and Hilversum, made such that the Storks could not find an anker point to start building their nests; and then offering them easy safe platforms to use further away from the tracks. Farmers are always looking for alternative sources of money, so maybe a little crafty thinking by ProRail draw them into unwittingly help resolve the situation?
Thank you for this nice cab ride on a rather sunny day. Regarding storks nests on catenary portals, this problem also exists in France. Seen on the track between DAX and BAYONNE. In SPAIN and between LERIDA and ZARAGOZA on the HSL and shortly before entering a tunnel that allows access to Zaragoza Delicias station, metal poles have been installed about 3 m from the HSL That allow storks to make their nests. In 2018 knew. It still exists it's a solution.
Tough situation with the storks - similar to the badger issue. Spent New Year's near Meppel. So good to see the station when it wasn't raining! Great video as always!
As most responsible, mature, adult-thinking viewers of Cabview Holland Dutch Railways will already know, storks are merely the delivery system for babies. So, I must therefore recluse myself from comment, other than to wish everyone to have a 'Great Saturday'! Gracias por tu video, Señor Cabview. RT sends, Puebla, México...
Hi Vincent. Sik? Nope, no Sik. I "wound back" the video to look again, but no NS 200. Did you mean on the left? The information to look out for the Sik appeared at 52:28, "Did you spot it?" appeared at 52:40 but no NS Class 200!
If you pause at 52:38 you can see the Sik on the far right of the screen, peeping between the trees. It IS hard to spot. It is between the white-walled house and the line of trees.
Dierenrijk zoo in Mierlo is right next to the track between Eindhoven and Helmond. Not only did I see stork nests on the electricity poles there, but also on just about every pole within the zoo they could find as well.
Wow this is the first time I've been in one these videos! you can see me as one of the shadows on the left at 28:26 waiting for the train to Zwolle that had a 25min delay.
It's great to see the storks making a strong recovery. I agree with the commet about doing a habitat survey, it would provide good data regardng feedng habits and locations. I did also think that re-locating, where practical, the food source so that the storks would nest further away from the OLE could be an option.
There are auto air compressors that let off a loud boom very 45 seconds .They are used on Icelandic long line fishing boats to keep gulls off the baited outgoing line . But maybe not pratical in this case .
Dankjewel voor alweer een mooie treinreis Meester. Wellicht kunnen er naast de baan van die hoge palen met kunstmatige nestplaatsen geplaatst worden. Ik herinner mij dat als ik mijn vrouw naar haar inburgering bracht op Rotterdam Zuid, ik onder de lijn Rotterdam Gouda nabij waar de A20 met de A16 kruist, ook ooievaarsnesten zie boven op de bovenleidingsportalen tussen Rotterdam CS en Alexander.
@@CabviewHolland Sorry. I tried as best as I could to decipher the page into English, but found no means of contact where I could submit a message via email. Greetings from Canada!
Ik ken hier de situatie niet van onderen maar bij Blijdorp Rotterdam is het geen probleem . Ooievaars zijn dan ook honk vast .Eventjes weghalen en ze komen toch weer terug als er maar genoeg te eten is Ze vangen wel genoeg muizen en een rat wil ze ook nog wel eens pakken .
Wat ik me afvraag is waarom de werkzaamheden te Hoogeveen zo ongelofelijk langzaam gaan. Ik was hier vorig jaar met de herfst en ze zijn nauwelijks opgeschoten.
Ik kan niet een perfect antwoord geven, maar ze zijn er ergens vorig jaar 2 weken lang mee bezig geweest en konden het niet af krijgen binnen die 2 weken, ik dacht vanwege leveringsproblemen nog vanwege corona. Ze moeten nog een nieuw moment pakken om verder te gaan. Dit is voor hoe ver ik het weet, ik ben gewoon een passagier die vrij vaak binnen dit traject met de trein reist. Ik heb dus geen zekere antwoorden. Het enige dat ik met zekerheid kan zeggen, is dat ze maar 2 weken lang echt bezig zijn geweest en daarna volgens mij niet meer.
Perhaps I see a case of quest for best being an enemy of "good enough" or even "better than it was." Post a couple meters outside the catenaries is certainly not ideal; but, is it better than what you have now? I'd handle the catenaries with round tipped steeply sloped conical fixtures over the posts and tent shaped shrouds over the horizontal portions of the catenaries, which the storks seem to avoid, anyway. Making trials with several such fixturing schemes in several regions may at least reduce the dinosaur descendent vs train contact rate. I'd also try various cheap shrouds near areas with nests to see if that keeps the nesting areas from expanding. What has ProRail done to explore incremental improvements over the current configuration with stork condominiums several nests high? Almost anything should be better than doing nothing. {^_^}
Addendum - I'd also experiment with moving the nest to the other side of the upright. That would mean extending the cross member to the outside and perhaps making it flatter while making the part between uprights rounder and slipperier. Even that little distance should provide some benefit. While the upright between nest and track should provide a little additional benefit with the small shielding effect it would have. {^_^}
Waarom hebben bovenleidingsportalen dan ook zo'n mooie vorm waar ze nesten op kunnen maken, maak de bovenkant rond zitten ze niet zo lekker meer. Dit is natuurlijk wel waar treinengekke baby's vandaan komen.
hi, im a big fan of your channel & find your vidio,s very relaxing & intersting. but today i stopped watching at 15.30 because of the poor quality (focus) of the vidio. just saying. love your channel & i hope you can rectify this problem. cheers from australia🥰
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Still amazes me that in places like Germany and Netherlands storks are considered pests (mostly because of their abundance) and yet here in Denmark they are so rare that whenever a new breeding pair comes here its worthy of the mainstream media (not to mention that recently we got a black stork here having ornithologists up in arms in joy).
We used to be very, very happy when a new breeding pair nested. Yet, nowadays they’re quite common - I once encountered a stork whilst at a highway fuel station, it was parading in between the customers and their cars😂. And, as you may have read, we still want them, just not that close to railways…
Bociany są zależne od krów, gdy są wypasne na pastwiskach zjadają trawę i bociany łatwiej znajdują pożywienie. Gdy są zamknięte w oborach liczba bocianów szybko spada:(
Dobrze to widać w Polsce.
Bociany często robią gniazda na słupach energetycznych więc jesienią lub zimą energetycy przenoszą ich gniazda na specjalne platformy umieszczone na tym samym słupie. Dzięki temu bociany są bardziej bezpieczne a i nie szkodzą dla sieci energetycznej. W Polsce jest jeszcze dużo bocianów ale coraz więcej gniazd jest pustych:(
Bocian kojarzy mi się z wiosną:)
🤗 Bedankt voor een prachtige reis in uw chauffeurscabine 🔝
For Storks to flourish not only must the catenary system be providing nesting sites the Storks see as safe, but there must be a good source of food with easy flying distance, maybe ProRail need to do a habitat survey, and/or radio collar the colonies to see where they are feeding. Part of the problem may be the drainage canals and meers that tend to pocket along side the railway routes. Clearly ProRail cannot interfere with these habitats. The answer maybe to develop a retro version of the "Heritage" catenary poles you showed us between Utrecht and Hilversum, made such that the Storks could not find an anker point to start building their nests; and then offering them easy safe platforms to use further away from the tracks. Farmers are always looking for alternative sources of money, so maybe a little crafty thinking by ProRail draw them into unwittingly help resolve the situation?
Thank you for this nice cab ride on a rather sunny day.
Regarding storks nests on catenary portals, this problem also exists in France. Seen on the track between DAX and BAYONNE. In SPAIN and between LERIDA and ZARAGOZA on the HSL and shortly before entering a tunnel that allows access to Zaragoza Delicias station, metal poles have been installed about 3 m from the HSL That allow storks to make their nests. In 2018 knew. It still exists it's a solution.
Tough situation with the storks - similar to the badger issue.
Spent New Year's near Meppel. So good to see the station when it wasn't raining!
Great video as always!
Jolie voyage avec les cigognes et la campagne. Mercdi pour ce voyage. Amicalement de la Bourgogne en France.
As most responsible, mature, adult-thinking viewers of Cabview Holland Dutch Railways will already know, storks are merely the delivery system for babies. So, I must therefore recluse myself from comment, other than to wish everyone to have a 'Great Saturday'! Gracias por tu video, Señor Cabview. RT sends, Puebla, México...
An informative and beautiful ride. Thanks for sharing your video ❤
Konintje steekt over? Misschien de Waterschapsheuvel in de buurt?
Hi Vincent. Sik? Nope, no Sik. I "wound back" the video to look again, but no NS 200. Did you mean on the left? The information to look out for the Sik appeared at 52:28, "Did you spot it?" appeared at 52:40 but no NS Class 200!
If you pause at 52:38 you can see the Sik on the far right of the screen, peeping between the trees. It IS hard to spot. It is between the white-walled house and the line of trees.
It is SIK 291, check streetview at Stationsstraat Tynaarlo.
Dierenrijk zoo in Mierlo is right next to the track between Eindhoven and Helmond. Not only did I see stork nests on the electricity poles there, but also on just about every pole within the zoo they could find as well.
i apologize for the comment regards Quality of focus. i did what you said this morning & the vidio played perfectly.
:-)
Wow this is the first time I've been in one these videos! you can see me as one of the shadows on the left at 28:26 waiting for the train to Zwolle that had a 25min delay.
:-)
It's great to see the storks making a strong recovery. I agree with the commet about doing a habitat survey, it would provide good data regardng feedng habits and locations. I did also think that re-locating, where practical, the food source so that the storks would nest further away from the OLE could be an option.
That intro tho! Nice work, Now for the content :)
8:15 🐇
Yesss rij dit traject naar zwolle toe elke dag voor school 💪🏻
There are auto air compressors that let off a loud boom very 45 seconds .They are used on Icelandic long line fishing boats to keep gulls off the baited outgoing line . But maybe not pratical in this case .
Um, that is also a people repellant so that tool is not all that suitable for deployment.
{^_-}
@@Wizardess not exactly .
@@johnsmith-rs2vk OK, we can install one in the street near your home? I'm surprised.
{^_^}
@@Wizardess We are talking about bird flocks here . Not housing estates .
@@johnsmith-rs2vk Humor impaired are we? That was meant to be a humorous reference to the nest on nest on nest structure sometimes seen.
{O.O}
Weer een hele mooie video meester !!
one place they put up platforms so they could nest and people could work on the catenary with out disturbing them
het is leuk om naar die nesten te kijken niks mis mee mijn idee is laat die nesten gewoon zitten de vogels weten echt wel wat ze doen
Dankjewel voor alweer een mooie treinreis Meester. Wellicht kunnen er naast de baan van die hoge palen met kunstmatige nestplaatsen geplaatst worden. Ik herinner mij dat als ik mijn vrouw naar haar inburgering bracht op Rotterdam Zuid, ik onder de lijn Rotterdam Gouda nabij waar de A20 met de A16 kruist, ook ooievaarsnesten zie boven op de bovenleidingsportalen tussen Rotterdam CS en Alexander.
Klopt
De vraag rijst natuurlijk: WAAROM bouwen die vogels hun nest op een bovenleidingsportaal? Het is nou niet bepaald een rustig plekje......
Easily solved by building higher nesting poles near the train tracks
Te Blijdorp Rotterdam is het wel mooi
Did I spot it? Only just! It wasn't hidden, just well obscured.
Gosh, you were keen to get to work. In the cab before your colleague exited at his end.
:-)
At least it wasn't the one from 'Alice in Wonderland' - no top hat! I wonder why it didn't use the crossing?
I have a possible solution to your stork problem. Who do I contact?
Prorail: www.prorail.nl/contact
@@CabviewHolland Sorry. I tried as best as I could to decipher the page into English, but found no means of contact where I could submit a message via email. Greetings from Canada!
@@peterthecoderd.1210 Hm, I thought they would have an English version. I could send your message if you like.
Отличное путешествие!!!👍👏🤝❤😃🇷🇺
🐦doet me denken aan Jufrouw ooievaar van de Fabeltjes krant,lol.🐦
Wel grappig dat ze allemaal bij elkaar zitten.
😊was weer een hele mooie video,is er een video beschikbaar van Groningen naar Amersfoort? fijn weeknd verders.greetz:🍐Peer.🍻👍👍👍👍
Een nieuwe rit staat op 27 mei gepland.
Störche sind halt Zug-Vögel 😘
Ik ken hier de situatie niet van onderen maar bij Blijdorp Rotterdam is het geen probleem . Ooievaars zijn dan ook honk vast .Eventjes weghalen en ze komen toch weer terug als er maar genoeg te eten is
Ze vangen wel genoeg muizen en een rat wil ze ook nog wel eens pakken .
Go and build a Stork Hotel somewhere...
8:15 for da bunnyyy 😍
Wat ik me afvraag is waarom de werkzaamheden te Hoogeveen zo ongelofelijk langzaam gaan. Ik was hier vorig jaar met de herfst en ze zijn nauwelijks opgeschoten.
Ze zijn inderdaad al bezig geweest maar het is wachten op een aantal onderdelen die niet leverbaar zijn... 😊
Ik kan niet een perfect antwoord geven, maar ze zijn er ergens vorig jaar 2 weken lang mee bezig geweest en konden het niet af krijgen binnen die 2 weken, ik dacht vanwege leveringsproblemen nog vanwege corona. Ze moeten nog een nieuw moment pakken om verder te gaan.
Dit is voor hoe ver ik het weet, ik ben gewoon een passagier die vrij vaak binnen dit traject met de trein reist. Ik heb dus geen zekere antwoorden. Het enige dat ik met zekerheid kan zeggen, is dat ze maar 2 weken lang echt bezig zijn geweest en daarna volgens mij niet meer.
Perhaps I see a case of quest for best being an enemy of "good enough" or even "better than it was." Post a couple meters outside the catenaries is certainly not ideal; but, is it better than what you have now? I'd handle the catenaries with round tipped steeply sloped conical fixtures over the posts and tent shaped shrouds over the horizontal portions of the catenaries, which the storks seem to avoid, anyway. Making trials with several such fixturing schemes in several regions may at least reduce the dinosaur descendent vs train contact rate.
I'd also try various cheap shrouds near areas with nests to see if that keeps the nesting areas from expanding.
What has ProRail done to explore incremental improvements over the current configuration with stork condominiums several nests high? Almost anything should be better than doing nothing.
{^_^}
Addendum - I'd also experiment with moving the nest to the other side of the upright. That would mean extending the cross member to the outside and perhaps making it flatter while making the part between uprights rounder and slipperier. Even that little distance should provide some benefit. While the upright between nest and track should provide a little additional benefit with the small shielding effect it would have.
{^_^}
🐈die witte kat had geluk op 8:20 van rechts naar links,🐱
Dat was een wit konijn :-)
@@CabviewHolland 🐇oh?het is bij de konijnen af,lol.🐰🤣
Waarom hebben bovenleidingsportalen dan ook zo'n mooie vorm waar ze nesten op kunnen maken, maak de bovenkant rond zitten ze niet zo lekker meer.
Dit is natuurlijk wel waar treinengekke baby's vandaan komen.
:-)
8.18 het witte konijn.
👍
Ze kunnen het nest wel weghalen maar helaas volgend jaar maken op zelfde plek nieuw nest👍👍👍👍😀😀😀
Mag niet, is een beschermde diersoort
@@chocomelluk dassen zijn ook beschermd en die hebben ze uiteindelijk ook weg mogen halen
In the US bald eagles like making nests on the catenary pylons too!
On the 1% of the U.S. rail network that is electrified?
@@roger0929 yup on the Northeast Corridor near Havre de Grace MD there is a bunch of water and bridges and they were living on them.
Maybe the storks are just railfans.
Are you now abandoning train information for that fancy map graphic?
No, this was a one time thing.
hi, im a big fan of your channel & find your vidio,s very relaxing & intersting. but today i stopped watching at 15.30 because of the poor quality (focus) of the vidio. just saying. love your channel & i hope you can rectify this problem. cheers from australia🥰
Focus is fine. Check your internet speed and app settings and try again :-)
😊word dat vam lijntje nog voor andere doeleinden gebruikt? 🚄🚋🚋🚋
Geen idee, iemand?
Tijdens de werkzaamheden bij Hoogeveen werden er daar werktreinen opgesteld. Verder is het buiten gebruik naar mijn weten.